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Quote from: NeuroticFish on May 12, 2022, 04:20:12 AM

While "achow" may not be so much uncommon, I would not expect it so much in.. Bangladesh.

I wasn’t able to check the forum regularly in the last few weeks. I wouldn’t notice it even unless I was reading this thread.
This is of course uncommon for Bangladesh. I believe someone intentionally have created this account as pointed out above and that's of course to cheat bounties. Bounty hunters (cheater) try a lot of random names when they create bunches of account.
Recently, I have noticed that a lot of newbies are using almost the same nick of other reputed members.
For example, there's yahoolover, brainbosslover (when shit lover lol) and now this one. These are mostly bounty cheaters and more or less managed by single entity I think.

Getting back to the topic, I think this is of course an imposter and a negative tag would be the best solution.

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I'm not sure whether to create new topic or not since the case is somehow similar. I found user development.bitcoin.org[1-2] bumped very old thread which created by satoshi[3]. While bitcoin.org exist and accessible, subdomain development.bitcoin.org apparently isn't exist.

[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/developmentbitcoinorg-3474865
[2] https://web.archive.org/web/20220515114416/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile%3Bu%3D3474865
[3] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60136593

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There's nothing we can do if a forum user who choose a username almost the same as achow101's username. I don't see any rule that creating an account with almost the same as the original username is not allowed but most of those accounts are most likely got red tagged if it is not an alt of the same forum user or an alt of the same username. Red tagging someone who has the same username as achow101 is like abusing the trust system unless that user do something that is not allowed in the forum or impersonating achow101 then red tagging is what should be done or ban.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on May 13, 2022, 03:11:12 PM

Personally I don't think that user deserves negative trust just because he chose similar name like one of forums staff members. I don't know, it might be coincidence, it might be not, but as long as he didn't try to impersonate achow101.

That's right. Just choosing a name similar to another forum member should not be a valid reason for a negative rating. It is difficult to draw the line in such cases and it can really happen by sheer coincidence. Unless, of course, the new member starts impersonate or posing as someone else, or tries some other naughty things.

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Personally I don't think that user deserves negative trust just because he chose similar name like one of forums staff members. I don't know, it might be coincidence, it might be not, but as long as he didn't try to impersonate achow101. Anyway, he earned negative trust in other way.
BTW, I think there is some restrictions related with usernames. You can't make such username like satoshi1 or something similar.

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To be honest, this person is harmless. I don't think even a neutral tag is necessary. No one is going to confuse this person with achow101.

If this person continues participating in bounties for a year, I have serious doubts that he will even notice they have negative trust, and it is unlikely he will even try to converse with any other forum member. I think it is most likely that this account is some kind of bot, as I believe to be true for many of the accounts that participate in bounty campaigns.

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There are no rules against having the similar usernames on this forum so yeah it is allowed as long as there is no impersonation as mentioned by others and also anyone can leave negative tag as a warning sign when a random user pick the name of an existing reputed forum members since its not moderated.

But I saw many accounts were tagged by theymos for creating accounts with that similar names so yeah it is subjective to the case.

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Quote from: aysg76 on May 12, 2022, 07:30:41 AM

There are enough evidence supporting that he has done it intentionally choosing the name matching to moderator @achow101 to portray himself in reputed way but he has 60 posts of bounty submission which the real one will never do Grin

.They try to involve in such cheap tactics which later made them ban and red flags on the forum at the end.

I see that @Apocollapse has edited his post and added evidence that our guy is yet another bounty scammer. So yeah, it's all crystal clear now.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on May 12, 2022, 04:44:45 AM

Usernames close to those of staff members or people with good reputation should be awarded with red paint. The guy from the OP could easily enter the DT if you just delete the last number of achows username by mistake.

I agree that situations like this should be considered as there is a possible security risk as you pointed out. I however do not agree that this should warrant a red tag on the user as it is a situation that can occur inadvertently, and affect innocent new members. It could also be the original user who created an alt account with a similar name.
A neutral tag and a public post such as this, or maybe a compilation of similar usernames would suffice.

If I do a random search on BPIP, there are quite a number of similar usernames for 'possibly' different users.

There were some cases I've seen with impersonation of theymos, Lauda, LoyceV and if I remember correctly all of them had a negative trust due to the possible security issues.
If you have own alt account you can just leave a neutral note that you have control over it, and that's it. All this reminds me to the old homograph attacks, where tried using fake, similar in name, websites to trick users and steal funds. Here the case is not that extreme, but again fooling people even without purpose is still not nice.
I tagged the user not because he had a similar name as the Mod, but because he was cheating in bounties.

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on May 12, 2022, 04:20:12 AM

While "achow" may not be so much uncommon, I would not expect it so much in.. Bangladesh.
But the 10 after it makes me rule out a coincidence, since neither achow, nor achow1 seem to be taken.

There are enough evidence supporting that he has done it intentionally choosing the name matching to moderator @achow101 to portray himself in reputed way but he has 60 posts of bounty submission which the real one will never do Grin

.They try to involve in such cheap tactics which later made them ban and red flags on the forum at the end.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 12, 2022, 04:50:22 AM

Uh yeah, no. There have been cases I've seen where someone's made a username too close to either a reputable senior member or staff, and IIRC those accounts got shut down. It's been a while since the last time I've seen it happen, but I'm 99.99% sure there's not nothing we or the mods can do, even if the member hasn't scammed anyone.

That name is way too similar to achow101 to be allowed to exist, assuming it's not an alt of his, which it sounds like it isn't.

I'll give the ol' boy a slap of the forum paint myself in a sec.

Yeah there are such cases where these imposters try to cheat but forget they have to participate in bounty campaign only and others will also get with simple usernames also but still they try to be oversmart getting the reward like he has.

I think forum has some restriction where you cannot choose the username from certain keywords like @satoshi as they have been blocked by @theymos to stop any kind of scam on the forum but you see there is probability where you can have matching name with little changes but they are caught so no fun of doing this.Moreover he is cheating in bounty campaign also with alts another violation of rules.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on May 12, 2022, 04:44:45 AM

Usernames close to those of staff members or people with good reputation should be awarded with red paint. The guy from the OP could easily enter the DT if you just delete the last number of achows username by mistake.

I agree that situations like this should be considered as there is a possible security risk as you pointed out. I however do not agree that this should warrant a red tag on the user as it is a situation that can occur inadvertently, and affect innocent new members. It could also be the original user who created an alt account with a similar name.
A neutral tag and a public post such as this, or maybe a compilation of similar usernames would suffice.

If I do a random search on BPIP, there are quite a number of similar usernames for 'possibly' different users.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 12, 2022, 05:09:59 AM

However for learning purpose, if I see someone made an account like my username e.g. Apocollapsa, Apocollapses, Apocollapse1 can I tag them with negative?

AFAIK, this sort of attempted impersonations happen seldomly, so the new forum software could prolly be out before you see someone trying to impersonate you (you can now guess how long that will take).

Well if that somehow happens then it would still be subject to interpretation, i think users should be tagged immediately if they impersonate a mod, dev, admin or an established user, especially one who is actively involved in the commercial aspect of the forum. Every other thing would be interpreted on the basis of a possible coincidence, the sort of posts the user has made and their actions generally since joining the forum.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on May 12, 2022, 04:50:22 AM

Uh yeah, no. There have been cases I've seen where someone's made a username too close to either a reputable senior member or staff, and IIRC those accounts got shut down. It's been a while since the last time I've seen it happen, but I'm 99.99% sure there's not nothing we or the mods can do, even if the member hasn't scammed anyone.

I understand your point of view, in different perspective we should taking care any chance of suspicious stuffs to prevent from any scam. But I'm just trying to make a proof first before suspecting anyone, that's why I search about his social media, address etc to see if he have another alts and cheat in the same campaign, even with the name alone achow10 is really close with achow101 (there's also achow102 but inactive). If giving negative tag because of impersonating someone is right, I will accept my wrong understanding.

However for learning purpose, if I see someone made an account like my username e.g. Apocollapsa, Apocollapses, Apocollapse1 can I tag them with negative?

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 12, 2022, 04:19:54 AM

He might get inspired by the @achow101 account, we can't do much.

Putting a neutral tag is enough if he didn't do anything harm or pretending like the user he inspired, if he doing any harm we can give him red tag and flag since he's high likely to scam anyone.

Uh yeah, no. There have been cases I've seen where someone's made a username too close to either a reputable senior member or staff, and IIRC those accounts got shut down. It's been a while since the last time I've seen it happen, but I'm 99.99% sure there's not nothing we or the mods can do, even if the member hasn't scammed anyone.

That name is way too similar to achow101 to be allowed to exist, assuming it's not an alt of his, which it sounds like it isn't.

I'll give the ol' boy a slap of the forum paint myself in a sec.

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I remember a while ago that someone tried to use @DannyHamilton username, and since the name is long, making some adjustments would be difficult to notice.
In general, if this behaviour is intended to scam, a negative trust should be placed, otherwise a neutral trust will suffice.

As for @achow10 username it is permissible unless people try to claim that account of alt-account of @achow101

Personally, I think that if he uses a username like @achow101_alt, @@achow101_home, @achow101_ deserve a negative trust not @achow10.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on May 12, 2022, 04:19:54 AM

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Now we can give him negative trust since he's a cheater (he also create alt account pretending like sapta)
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That's about enough for me to put the red paint on him. It wasn't exactly the point of the thread but, still it's a good solution for the current case.
Usernames close to those of staff members or people with good reputation should be awarded with red paint. The guy from the OP could easily enter the DT if you just delete the last number of achows username by mistake.

Good work Apocollapse

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Quote from: NeuroticFish on May 12, 2022, 04:20:12 AM

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I think that @achow101 should add there a tag (as long as no scams are involved neutral may do) stating whether it's his account or (most probably!) not.
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Looking at his posts, i'd be very (very) supprised if this was an alt of achow101 since the questions he asks are not the questions i'd expect from the real achow101, and achow101 also doesn't strike me as a shitcoin bounty hunter Grin

This being said, i seem to remember impostors that chose usernames very close to well established members got tagged in the past, but i'm not completely sure if my memory serves me correctly...

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on May 12, 2022, 04:10:32 AM

The newbie user achow10 has almost the same username as Andrew Chow's one which is achow101
I don't think newbie can randomly choose almost the same username as one of the moderators and dev. For me it looks like done intentionally. I don't see any attempts to make any dirty business with it, could be harmless, but...

I think that @achow101 should add there a tag (as long as no scams are involved neutral may do) stating whether it's his account or (most probably!) not.
While "achow" may not be so much uncommon, I would not expect it so much in.. Bangladesh.
But the 10 after it makes me rule out a coincidence, since neither achow, nor achow1 seem to be taken.

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He might get inspired by the @achow101 account, we can't do much.

Putting a neutral tag is enough if he didn't do anything harm or pretending like the user he inspired, if he doing any harm we can give him red tag and flag since he's high likely to scam anyone. Looking on his posts history where he registered on April 4 and applying for bounties on the same date too, we're know he's already familiar with this forum.

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Now we can give him negative trust since he's a cheater (he also create alt account pretending like sapta)

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The newbie user achow10 has almost the same username as Andrew Chow's one which is achow101
I don't think newbie can randomly choose almost the same username as one of the moderators and dev. For me it looks like done intentionally. I don't see any attempts to make any dirty business with it, could be harmless, but...

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