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Quote from: nutildah on August 16, 2020, 01:31:56 AM

I just wonder what the rationale of leaving his comment there was. Perhaps there's a sound rationalization of which I am unaware, and knowledge of such would help me be a more effective reporter in the future.

The only logical explanation that comes to my mind is that this reported post in not handled by the same moderator which deleted previous posts. Although there are rules, their interpretation is not always identical by all moderators - and I have read such an interpretation more than once by the moderators themselves.

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Quote from: nutildah on August 16, 2020, 01:31:56 AM

I just wonder what the rationale of leaving his comment there was. Perhaps there's a sound rationalization of which I am unaware, and knowledge of such would help me be a more effective reporter in the future.

Ive checked it and youre right. It wasnt deleted at all. So Ive decided to open up this thread again as per your request so you can voice out your opinion.

Will locked the thread if there's any moderator or specifically the one that marked nutilda's report as "bad" to response here and explain things for clarity as per Nutilda's request. Curious too, how is my post and some other guy's post different with the undeleted one.

Quote from: nutildah on August 10, 2020, 10:53:46 AM

I'm going to report the following posts and see what happens, at the risk of losing my 99% success rate Cheesy

Sorry for dropping your 99% accuracy. It sems there is exception to every reports.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on August 10, 2020, 11:35:18 PM

Quote from: nutildah on August 10, 2020, 10:53:46 AM

Im going to report the following posts and see what happens, at the risk of losing my 99% success rate

It did work, visited the thread it seems only one guy's post left. I assume other's deleted their post like suchmoon did.

I asked cryptoaddictchie if he would kindly unlock this thread just so I could leave a follow-up comment that my reports for BITCOIN4X and PrimeNumber7 posts in the CM campaign thread were marked Good whereas my report for Timelord2067's post was marked Bad, which is curious as it is just responding to a deleted post by PN7. This was the post:

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 09, 2020, 11:58:50 AM

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To be fair, per the spreadsheet in the OP, aundroid was removed. I don't know if DS will immediately fill the spot, but he has been filling spots as they become available.

Unless of course the number of users/slots is being downsized? No new users were added in that last feeding frenzy.

I just wonder what the rationale of leaving his comment there was. Perhaps there's a sound rationalization of which I am unaware, and knowledge of such would help me be a more effective reporter in the future.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on August 10, 2020, 02:58:44 AM

In your situation there's actually an open slot, but it's not yet being announced so I guess that's why there is no surprise that your post was removed, you need to make some research before you post a reply.

Ive saw the sheet that there is one got removed the moment Ive saw Google+ application, but we are not sure if there is really an opening or;

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 09, 2020, 11:58:50 AM

Unless of course the number of users/slots is being downsized? No new users were added in that last feeding frenzy.

Quote from: Lucius on August 10, 2020, 05:22:35 AM

What I would recommend to you and everyone else when it comes to the CM signature thread, is to simply ignore those who don’t understand the meaning of the word FULL

Really a wake up call for me. Maybe that would be the last time I would do reminding someone about CFNP and FULL thing. Thanks for the recommendation.

Quote from: nutildah on August 10, 2020, 10:53:46 AM

Im going to report the following posts and see what happens, at the risk of losing my 99% success rate

It did work, visited the thread it seems only one guy's post left. I assume other's deleted their post like suchmoon did.

Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 10, 2020, 12:42:27 PM

OP, yours wasn't a low-quality or spam post, but it was probably reported by someone who didn't want the campaign thread to start having a bunch of posts that clutter the thread. If a campaign manager is looking at his thread, I'm pretty sure all he wants to see are applications and/or relevant feedback to the campaign.

I guess it did become an off topic from others perspective. But that's fine for me. Knowing this made me and others realized of this kind of scenario in the future.

Thanks for everyone. Locking this thread as Ive satisfied with all your feedback. Anyway this will served as a reminder to me and all user whom doing the same. Not only in that campaign but every other campaigns too. Appreciate all your response.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 10, 2020, 12:42:27 PM

Not only that, but you could probably make 50 posts per week writing the kinds of posts OP wrote. Members do what Google+ did in campaign threads all the time (at least they were doing it before I put the Services section on ignore, but I'm assuming things haven't changed much). It's not worth your time and effort to respond to an application, even if the campaign is clearly closed, the member isn't qualified, etc. They're probably not going to read what you write anyway.

I wouldn't rule out that all candidates won't read at all. Maybe some might re-visit that thread, scroll down and see someone or a bunch of participants quoting them.

Nowadays, some campaign managers (including one managing the sig campaign I'm in) are not counting
the posts made by the participants on those threads.

Good move, I'd say.

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Quote from: Yogee on August 09, 2020, 11:20:12 PM

Google+ is an old timer and probably doesn't need to be reminded. He knows it's full but he still tries his luck. You don't need to remind them every now and then.

Not only that, but you could probably make 50 posts per week writing the kinds of posts OP wrote. Members do what Google+ did in campaign threads all the time (at least they were doing it before I put the Services section on ignore, but I'm assuming things haven't changed much). It's not worth your time and effort to respond to an application, even if the campaign is clearly closed, the member isn't qualified, etc. They're probably not going to read what you write anyway.

OP, yours wasn't a low-quality or spam post, but it was probably reported by someone who didn't want the campaign thread to start having a bunch of posts that clutter the thread. If a campaign manager is looking at his thread, I'm pretty sure all he wants to see are applications and/or relevant feedback to the campaign.

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Quote from: nutildah on August 10, 2020, 10:53:46 AM

Indeed, this is an uncommon move by the mods where just one post was deleted but the ones quoting and solely about that post weren't also deleted. I'm going to report the following posts and see what happens, at the risk of losing my 99% success rate Cheesy

In about 4 hours I should be able to delete my post, which may give you one good report. Edit: done.

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Quote from: Lucius on August 10, 2020, 05:22:35 AM

cryptoaddictchie, if your post is deleted, then all other posts after user Google+ application should also be deleted - but it seems that someone is just report your post.

Indeed, this is an uncommon move by the mods where just one post was deleted but the ones quoting and solely about that post weren't also deleted. I'm going to report the following posts and see what happens, at the risk of losing my 99% success rate Cheesy

Getting that bump from 98 to 99% wasn't easy either, I had to have like 100 good reports in a row to make it happen.

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cryptoaddictchie, if your post is deleted, then all other posts after user Google+ application should also be deleted - but it seems that someone is just report your post. What I would recommend to you and everyone else when it comes to the CM signature thread, is to simply ignore those who don’t understand the meaning of the word FULL - they actually disqualify themselves even before they could even get a chance.

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on August 09, 2020, 11:07:27 PM

Also got curious, let say for example a post is deleted by a moderator but the post is proven not to violate any forum rule could that post somehow be restored from being deleted or once it got deleted its final?

If the deleted post were restored, it would mean that the moderator made a mistake, and I think that every moderator takes a good look at the situation before deleting the post. Therefore, I think that the decision is final, unless a moderator corrupt or his account is hacked and the posts are deleted without any valid reason.

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I believe except application on the campaign thread other posts would consider off-topic as well. But moderators usually do not bother to delete many posts because the amount is too high. But I think if someone report such as post would lead to deletion. So I am pretty sure someone has reported your post. We know there is so much discussion on every signature campaign thread out of the application, but all of these reply not getting deleted due to lack of report IMO. If campaign managers intend to clean their thread, then they could report.

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On the CM campaign thread are often posted many applications while the status is FULL and off-topic but many of the old time members don't like meaningless conversations there and report the posts. The campaign is very popular and everyone is trying to apply for it despite the fact that the campaign is always full. In your situation there's actually an open slot, but it's not yet being announced so I guess that's why there is no surprise that your post was removed, you need to make some research before you post a reply.

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I see a lot of people talking about not important there, things like that often happen on campaign topics, if one participant is deleted, other members just appear, I don't know what the purpose is....!

Waiting for the manager to say something I think is better...slots.

@cryptoaddictchie, if I guess your post has been (reported), if you say it's off-topic, some posts there are not important, the rule is that the manager has the right to say something there.
But preferably, other members know better than the manager, the slot is empty or full.

For me it is not a matter of concern.

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Quote from: cabalism13 on August 09, 2020, 11:22:30 PM

Considered to off-topic: YES

We just have considered it to be a habit when someone make an application to a CFNP Campaigns, but overall it's an off-topic reply. Looking back at the thread there are also some replies that are considered to be off-topic but it wasn't deleted, maybe it wasn't reported to the mods and yours was actually has.

There are round when pages of off-topic discussion posts (in ChipMixer campaign thread) were splitted and moved to another thread, in Reputation or Service Discussion. But if there are not many posts like those, moderators will delete them rather than split and move them.

It also happens with the Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns in which Mitchell - the thread's owner ask to split posts inside for several times.

They are local rules so it depends on each thread's owners

Quote from: Mitchell on February 08, 2017, 09:00:48 AM

Theymos split the thread and the split off part was moved to Archive. Not sure why it went to Archive, as it's more suited for the Trashcan, but whatever. I asked for this as the last 284 were pointless and no longer relevant (and thus spam).

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Quote from: cabalism13 on August 09, 2020, 11:22:30 PM

IMO, we should only reply Applications on Campaigns or something that has to do with the thread like payment issues, duration etc.

I agree, wrong applications does not really make up the spam that easily clogs up signature campaign threads, sometimes the numerous replies resulting from it could be the reason, the discussions sometimes veers off the purpose of the thread itself and important information could be lost easily. There are a couple of other off topic replies on that thread, but yours was first after the application and was likely reported early on.
Rather than replying to every wrong application, maybe we should let the manager handle the situation based on their discretion, 99% of the time they would ignore it.

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on August 09, 2020, 11:07:27 PM

Also got curious, let say for example a post is deleted by a moderator but the post is proven not to violate any forum rule could that post somehow be restored from being deleted or once it got deleted its final?

I believe it's theoretically possible to restore a post(maybe only by admins), I however think this should only be used in sensitive cases like; the author a of a self-moderared thread censoring important replies for personal gain.

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Whithout knowing the rules 100%, it seems to me a little bit tough to delete that reply.

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Considered to off-topic: YES

We just have considered it to be a habit when someone make an application to a CFNP Campaigns, but overall it's an off-topic reply. Looking back at the thread there are also some replies that are considered to be off-topic but it wasn't deleted, maybe it wasn't reported to the mods and yours was actually has.

IMO, we should only reply Applications on Campaigns or something that has to do with the thread like payment issues, duration etc.

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Google+ is an old timer and probably doesn't need to be reminded. He knows it's full but he still tries his luck. You don't need to remind them every now and then.

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on August 09, 2020, 11:07:27 PM

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Thanks for anyone respond especially on the moderator side. Also got curious, let say for example a post is deleted by a moderator but the post is proven not to violate any forum rule could that post somehow be restored from being deleted or once it got deleted its final?

I know moderators review all reported posts before they delete them so it's probably 99% nonreversible. A review of a reviewed post sounds like a waste of time or counter-productive.

I also read that a post can be restored if it's moved to "trashcan" board.

editing: I found the post on restoring from trashcan

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Quote from: LoyceV on June 30, 2020, 01:25:18 PM

Can you share the reason for using either trashcan or total delete?

We usually use the trashcan board when we want to leave a redirect message, like this one or, if we want a topic to be easily restorable (when/if needed).

Quote from: LoyceV on June 30, 2020, 01:25:18 PM

I thought all topics could be restored after deletion.

I meant to say "easily" restorable, because a removed topic can only be restored by admins, while the ones moved to the trashcan can be restored by global mods as well.

Staff members like myself, can see the board and its content, but cannot restore topics from there.

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apply to fill the slots of the participants who are removed.

I think you should wait until the manager said there is an opening. This would not increase your chance to get accepted.

To be fair, per the spreadsheet in the OP, aundroid was removed. I don't know if DS will immediately fill the spot, but he has been filling spots as they become available.

Hello posted this to ask possible reason why this post of mine got deleted? Im not sure whether its an off-topic or low substantial quality response but Im simply reminding the applicant not to apply as Ive known that:

Quote from: DarkStar_ on June 13, 2020, 10:50:39 PM

For future application rounds, I'd want people to post their application again after new slots are announced.

Which most users always do when they noticed some participants applied when the title is [FULL] or the BM doesn't have announcement yet for open position.

Thanks for anyone respond especially on the moderator side. Also got curious, let say for example a post is deleted by a moderator but the post is proven not to violate any forum rule could that post somehow be restored from being deleted or once it got deleted its final?

^{Im asking this so if ever I encountered same scenario I would not do it again or avoid it. Thanks will locked the thread once my inquiry has been met.}

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