Is this included in the account connection?

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Quote from: KingsDen on August 15, 2022, 06:51:43 PM

Actually, exposing cheating is an easy way to get merits and reputation, only if one does it genuinely and consistently. That is not actually the only way to earn merits or reputations, there are so many other ways, so any user who wishes to earn merits or reputation should know their area of core competence and harness same.
Personally, I know I am someone that is very considerate, I can easily forgive if one is truly remorseful and presents some logical reasons he/she will not commit same crime again.
So, if I neg tag someone, I might see myself removing it few days later only if there are convincing reasons. If I don't do so, I might not have rest of mind in the real world. That is the reason I don't just venture into cheat hunting. But to people that does it genuinely without unnecessary victimisation, I appreciate you all.

I'm never against anyone having that kind of mindset including newbie or low ranking users, but only if they really sincerely want to contribute to the forum. But at the moment I really think that digging for more newbie bounty cheats is a never ending job considering they will always make the same mistakes by registering other accounts which in the end I don't think will change the attitude of other newbie much.

I chose a different way in which I could combine the two to contribute. So far I'd rather get a spammer than a newbie cheat bounty, but sometimes I can also do it when I feel suspicious of someone even if it's a high ranking member.

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Quote from: Xiaomie A1 on August 15, 2022, 04:06:34 AM

I got that via ninjastic.space and I got curious about this so I decided to ask everyone here.

Some users are starting to think that exposing cheating is an easy way to gain merit or maybe reputation, so are you one of those who think so?
You deliberately research an account, perhaps out of suspicion or for whatever reason you think. I don't think you did it by accident, there must be some other reason what you are hiding.

Actually, exposing cheating is an easy way to get merits and reputation, only if one does it genuinely and consistently. That is not actually the only way to earn merits or reputations, there are so many other ways, so any user who wishes to earn merits or reputation should know their area of core competence and harness same.
Personally, I know I am someone that is very considerate, I can easily forgive if one is truly remorseful and presents some logical reasons he/she will not commit same crime again.
So, if I neg tag someone, I might see myself removing it few days later only if there are convincing reasons. If I don't do so, I might not have rest of mind in the real world. That is the reason I don't just venture into cheat hunting. But to people that does it genuinely without unnecessary victimisation, I appreciate you all.

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Quote from: Xiaomie A1 on August 15, 2022, 04:06:34 AM

I got that via ninjastic.space and I got curious about this so I decided to ask everyone here.

Some users are starting to think that exposing cheating is an easy way to gain merit or maybe reputation, so are you one of those who think so?
You deliberately research an account, perhaps out of suspicion or for whatever reason you think. I don't think you did it by accident, there must be some other reason what you are hiding.

I wouldn't advise you to be a cheat hunter even though it helps the forum clear up cheats. Even if you're interested in doing so, it's up to you because I don't think contributing to forum is just about this. You can learn a lot about bitcoin and anything you don't understand properly and share it with the community, and that seems to be much more valuable to you. So for this one, you really should close the thread.

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Quote from: Munir575 on August 11, 2022, 03:20:57 PM

This does not satisfy me as conclusive evidence that the accounts are linked. This sort of stuff occurs frequently in the Bounty section since many bounty hunters are frequently pressed for time to post their POA and they replicate others' POAs without changing the data.

Op need to bring more evidence to clarify that the account is been link. Some times i blame some people who can not bring clear evidence of some people before discussion. I really know that in bounty campaign most of them is using a dual account. And their objectives is to earn bitcoin. But at least you have to render a claer evidence for connected accounts.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on August 15, 2022, 05:30:36 AM

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 12, 2022, 04:16:45 AM

The OP is a Junior Member who, along with newbies are banned from posting in the Known Alts Thread for this very reason posting feeble "evidence" that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Lol, I didn't realize you banned noobs from posting in that thread. Probably a good call, though.

There was a discussion a few pages back on the Known Alts thread and via consensus it was agreed that due to newbies and Jr Members posting "evidence" that didn't hold up to scrutiny, their posts should be removed (with some exceptions)

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Quote from: FatFork on August 10, 2022, 07:23:30 AM

In this case, I don't believe that this is sufficient proof that the accounts are connected.

It isn't sufficient proof, period. There have been many examples of this kind of error being made by sloppy bounty hunters when they sign up. So unless there's some other blockchain evidence linking these two accounts (which I wouldn't even bother looking for, because of what I just wrote), case closed.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on August 12, 2022, 04:16:45 AM

The OP is a Junior Member who, along with newbies are banned from posting in the Known Alts Thread for this very reason posting feeble "evidence" that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

Lol, I didn't realize you banned noobs from posting in that thread. Probably a good call, though.

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First of all, I've never had a grudge with anyone here including you @Issa56 because I don't know who you are either. And I also don't have any problems in this forum, but because I spend most of my time outside this forum by running several trades through the exchange, so that I don't have much writing on this forum. And I never even cared what you did to all the cheaters on this forum. Because basically I'm also not a person who likes them (cheater).

So there's no need to panic and fear if you're really innocent because I'm just asking a question based on what I've seen through the ninjastic.space resource. And asking to get a complete answer, I think it's also not wrong and can be done by anyone. Including you.

@YOSHIE, I got that via ninjastic.space and I got curious about this so I decided to ask everyone here. Thank you for providing an excellent answer.

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Looks like @Issa56, is being targeted by spammers as a trap.

Yesterday @Issa56, sent me a PM.

He asked for a solution and i already answered it, doesn't seem to deter spamers, for the solution i told to @Issa56.

But today I saw @Issa56 being framed again in the campaign: Dokdo Bounty Campaign | 4 weeks | Budget: 200,000 $DKD ~ $20k-ESCROWED, by spamers, for that I think things like this should be published here, to overcome misunderstandings in the future.

Evidence of traps carried out by spammers.

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@Issa56, Looks like I'll have to publish your PM here, as your future reference, so that other members do not misunderstand about you.

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The OP is a Junior Member who, along with newbies are banned from posting in the Known Alts Thread for this very reason posting feeble "evidence" that doesn't hold up to scrutiny.

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This does not satisfy me as conclusive evidence that the accounts are linked. This sort of stuff occurs frequently in the Bounty section since many bounty hunters are frequently pressed for time to post their POA and they replicate others' POAs without changing the data.

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@Xiaomie A1, looks like you're wrong on this, I'm trying to open a disallowed spreadsheet, but I'm browsing @thefreethinker's post history in campaign: EGOcoin Bounty(FINISHED), but the address used by @thefreethinker is different from the address you provide here.
Proof: Page 11

Quote from: thefreethinker on February 08, 2022, 05:14:52 AM

Forum username: thefreethinker
Forum profile link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/thefreethinker-3393591
Telegram username: @freethinkeer
Bsc address: 0x5d5DF453FB26bE5E49fED399876AD174Ee7Ae8A3

https://archive.vn/wip/J6IFm

Somehow you find the same Address used by: @Issa56, I think they are not connected.

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In this case, I don't believe that this is sufficient proof that the accounts are connected.
Issa56 posted that address first and used it at least 180 more times on the forum, thefreethinker not even once (apart from that one copy-pasted POA post). We can therefore safely assume that Issa56 is the real owner, and thefreethinker likely posted it by mistake. This kind of thing happens a lot in the Bounty section because there are many bounty hunters that are generally hasty, and this cuts down on the time it takes them to post their reports and complete their tasks.

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OP your evidence is not strong enough.
to strengthen, you can look for transactions involving both accounts. I'm sure it will be better.

I've also experienced this, when my address and telegram account was used by another account to register for POA. it turns out that those who did it were also part of an account that I had published cheating in a campaign.

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Quote from: Issa56 on August 10, 2022, 04:37:44 AM

Am surprising seeing my name been tagged with another another account thefreethinker. thefreethinker mistaken used my wallet for proof of authentication when he wanted to register for ego bounty campaign and the wallet address was changed on the Spreadsheet. If you check the spreadsheet I submited proof of authentication first. I will advise you dig more better maybe you will find more evidence to proof that thefreethinker is owned by me. Thank.
@Xiaomie A1 I noticed you have never made any post in reputation board before, this is your first post or maybe your alt account have been tagged by me then you decided to fight back. But am sure other members that will be making judgment will definitely look into my account and thefreethinker before making judgment.

This is definitely a loser avenger who is clinging to a small string of coincidences to annoy you for catching his alternate accounts.

The account came to the forum after a break, and after writing several posts, suddenly began to rummage in search of cheaters. Someone would believe that it was by chance?

You better check all your contacts because cheaters are very fond of shit in order to remove the one who prevents them from living on the forum.

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These snippets are from other cases, and a forum staff Xal0lex answered the question of connecting accounts with addresses they published.

Quote from: Xal0lex on August 09, 2022, 10:45:15 AM

Honestly, I didn't expect this from you. Well, you should know about it Wink

In your example, mia_houston published the address much earlier than rindo did. That's why your example doesn't fit. If it were the other way around, then we could talk about ban evasion.

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Again, if someone publishes your address, it will be after you have published it. In any case, the publication of your address from someone else will be later than yours.

So it now goes without saying that if a member publishes an address first, and another member publishes the same address, the member who published the address first can't be accused of doing anything wrong using that since they published the address much earlier. Here Issa56 published that address first, before thefreethinker did, so we can't use this to call Issa56 freethinker's alt.

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