Is this -rep which I received, appropriate?

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Quote from: The Cryptovator on June 10, 2022, 12:51:19 PM

However, good to see the feedback has been removed.

It is cool that the feedback has been removed. I am of the opinion that the person that gave the tag was not in the right state of mind as at the time the tag was given.
It could be a transfer of aggression Grin

Quote from: The Cryptovator on June 10, 2022, 12:51:19 PM

OP should learn as well as others who are reading this thread about avoiding Applying on the paused campaign.

If I were the judge, I have no case against someone being tagged. This is because I followed the link and discovered that there was not indication that the campaign was paused, closed or CFNP. The campaign is open, which means open for applications.
And you know such eagerness when someone is looking for a few satoshi to sort out some domestic needs.

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Quote from: LoyceMobile on June 09, 2022, 09:43:10 AM

DT itself is "moderated" by the community Wink

We like to think it is, but it's not too good. And I'm not talking about Timelord2067 here. There's quite a known trust cycle from where every time some ~~people~~ users get into DT.

Quote from: LoyceMobile on June 09, 2022, 09:43:10 AM

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It may be an unpopular opinion but I fear that if your red tag will be removed you may start spamming the forum just to meet your posting quota.

That may be, but negative feedback shouldn't be used against spam.

You are right. And I already said that imho the negative feedback was too harsh. But since we were analyzing the situation from all the angles, I thought it's a detail that very much deserves to be mentioned.

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Applying to paused thread could consider forum spam, not trust abuse anyway. A report would be a better option, so the user would get a warning from the forum. However, good to see the feedback has been removed. But I think he left for a lesson but it's too costly lol. OP should learn as well as others who are reading this thread about avoiding Applying on the paused campaign.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 10, 2022, 01:50:46 AM

Thanks for your interest and cooperation. I am so happy that my problem is solved. It is important to provide good forum experience to all users.

Since feedback was removed from your profile, I think it's best that you lock this topic now.
Thanks Timelord for quick response and problem solution.

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Thanks for your interest and cooperation. I am so happy that my problem is solved. It is important to provide good forum experience to all users.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on June 09, 2022, 07:44:31 AM

Timelord2067 somewhat too harsh about his own view when giving negative feedback and how he make a correlation about alt accounts without completely 100% appropriate proof, but he do have many contribution to this forum, that's make me to not distrust him.

Harsh is one way to put it, but I'd argue that he borders on magical thinking at times and sees connections between accounts that the average forum detective wouldn't think are valid--and many members have disagreed with his feedback in the past, and not only those members he's left feedback for either.

Quote from: dkbit98 on June 09, 2022, 12:51:57 PM

This is crazy and certainly not appropriate behavior from any forum member, even more from someone who registered here almost ten years ago in 2013.

Yeah, I agree with you on that. OP shouldn't have gotten tagged for the reasons he gave, because applying for a paused sig campaign doesn't indicate anything about anyone's trustworthiness--and per Theymos's guidance, that's what we're supposed to be leaving positive and negative for. It's not even worth a neutral.

Looks like it got removed anyway, so that's good.

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Some of you may be aware that my hours on the forum have been limited over the last six months.

I *had* intended to respond to the PM sent by the OP (less than three days ago) over the week-end when I have some down time, however ...

Quote from: yahoo62278 on June 09, 2022, 07:04:36 AM

It seems a little over the top IMO. Maybe send Timelord a pm on the subject since he is the only 1 who can remove it. If you already have, send him a pm to this thread so that he may respond.

The OP waited less than 48 hours before starting this thread (and *not* re-contacting me first)

Quote from: Apocollapse on June 09, 2022, 07:44:31 AM

Timelord2067 somewhat too harsh about his own view when giving negative feedback and how he make a correlation about alt accounts without completely 100% appropriate proof, but he do have many contribution to this forum, that's make me to not distrust him.

I appreciate your support.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on June 09, 2022, 08:29:31 AM

Although I also find it harsh, our opinion doesn't worth much in the matter. Trust feedback is not moderated.
OP: your best bet is to ask nicely and without insisting too much that Timelord2067 reconsiders his feedback.

On the other hand, you seem to be rushing for signature campaigns while you're posting mostly in the Turkish subforum and the posts I've got to translate were more like Politics & Society style than bitcoin related.
It may be an unpopular opinion but I fear that if your red tag will be removed you may start spamming the forum just to meet your posting quota. But again, it's all up to Timelord2067 whether he removes that feedback or not.

I concur.

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Wow, the level of delusion seems to have reached a new level. Cheesy

Negative feedback for applying to a dead campaign. Now can safely chat on the forum and not worry about your financial relationships, because a very dangerous cheater has been found and neutralized.

I recently quoted an English post for a Russian thread here and accidentally clicked on the publish button, as a result, the post in Russian was published in the English thread. I wonder if this is a reason for a negative tag? Roll Eyes

Perhaps you might like to comb through my other negatives and if you agree with them, mark them with a negative of your own?

Quote from: dkbit98 on June 09, 2022, 12:51:57 PM

I would like to hear explanation from Timelord2067 first,

No explanation.

Quote from: Timelord2067 on June 09, 2022, 10:57:52 PM

Well, yes. I do know something about that campaign.

No, I don't feel like sharing it with anyone.

Negative removed.

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Quote from: Gencecikmen on June 09, 2022, 06:52:35 AM

I made a mistake when I was rookie on forums and tried to join paused signature campaign, I was not aware it was paused.
So Timelord2067 gave me -reputation just because I made amaterish mistake.
What do you think? Is this appropriate?

This is crazy and certainly not appropriate behavior from any forum member, even more from someone who registered here almost ten years ago in 2013.
I would like to hear explanation from Timelord2067 first, but I think that he should remove this feedback from your profile as soon as possible.
Only reasonable thing I could think off is that maybe he made a mistake thinking you were some spammer, but it is still unjustified.

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I don't know how to explain it to you because in my newbie days I also felt how harsh @Timelord2067 was just because I didn't PM him for a neutral tag on my profile ^{[just because of my account username].} I may have learned a lot from him and other users about how this trust system works, but the advice from yahoo62278 seems like a good one for you to consider for now.

I hope you managed to persuade him to reconsider the negative tag you currently have on your profile, good luck. He could be wrong or he could be right because at that time he was just teaching you something as has happened to me in the past.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on June 09, 2022, 09:23:48 AM

I also think your red trust, made 2021-10-29, so why only now is this a problem.....! Where were you then, when @Timelord2067, took aim at you.

It wasn't a problem because Timelord2067 wasn't on DT, so the review didn't affect his trust score. Since Timelord2067 has been elevated to DT2 for the month of June the review is visible and looks like a blemish. I know what you're saying; if it's a problem now it should have been a problem then regardless of Timelord2067 DT status, but I can understand the OP's concern as well. I have plenty of red-tags that are retaliatory and unjustified, and none of them bother me at all. However, I would hate to see one pop up as "trusted" feedback if one of those accounts made it's way to DT2.

It's an unjustified tag in my opinion, and questioning the OP about why it's suddenly a problem for him isn't really helpful.

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I'm surprised Timelord2067 is on DT again. That's a good moment to clean up bad ratings made in the past, and this is one of them.
See:

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The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.

Quote from: NeuroticFish on June 09, 2022, 08:29:31 AM

Although I also find it harsh, our opinion doesn't worth much in the matter. Trust feedback is not moderated.

DT itself is "moderated" by the community Wink

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It may be an unpopular opinion but I fear that if your red tag will be removed you may start spamming the forum just to meet your posting quota.

That may be, but negative feedback shouldn't be used against spam.

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As far as I know Champaign 777Coin, when your, register, there is a problem, but I see other members under you, there are also those who register on the same day and date, they are fine, I was also wondering why you got the red trust from @Timelord2067.

In my opinion, this is just a bit of a misunderstanding maybe, of course @Timelord2067 knows the problem, I also think your red trust, made 2021-10-29, so why only now is this a problem.....! Where were you then, when @Timelord2067, took aim at you.

@yahoo solution in my opinion, the right idea you consider.

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Although I also find it harsh, our opinion doesn't worth much in the matter. Trust feedback is not moderated.
OP: your best bet is to ask nicely and without insisting too much that Timelord2067 reconsiders his feedback.

On the other hand, you seem to be rushing for signature campaigns while you're posting mostly in the Turkish subforum and the posts I've got to translate were more like Politics & Society style than bitcoin related.
It may be an unpopular opinion but I fear that if your red tag will be removed you may start spamming the forum just to meet your posting quota. But again, it's all up to Timelord2067 whether he removes that feedback or not.

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It looks like the negative feedback from Timelord2067 only affected you. I looked at the others and didn't see anything like that, which might not be the right policy either. If one has it, then logically, everyone should have similar reviews. Other than that, I don't see any reason for a neutral review. I think Timelord2067 should reconsider his review. Furthermore, it's been a while since punishment like this was given and the OP has surely figured out and learned from his mistake.

It shouldn't have such a harsh punishment.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on June 09, 2022, 07:44:31 AM

Quote from: Charles-Tim on June 09, 2022, 07:34:27 AM

Edit: But, I did not see the negative tag showing on your profile, I do not see any reason you are so bothered about this yet.

That's because your trust list, perhaps you're included many users who distrust Timelord2067, if you check on BPIP Timelord2067 is a DT2 with 0 power. So the negative feedback will appeared on the trusted feedback.

That's correct. If you want to see what Gencecikmen's trust looks like with default trust settings just add ";dt" to the end of the url for his profile like so:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gencecikmen-3377868
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3377868;dt

Any page on the forum can be modified this way. Adding ";dt" will display the page as if you had default trust settings.

I agree that this seems like harsh feedback. I think Timelord2067 might have made a mistake. The reference shows that the campaign was open when Gencecikmen made that post, and another member who didn't get tagged made an application just a few minutes later. Hopefully Timelord2067 will see this and remove that feedback.

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Timelord2067 somewhat too harsh about his own view when giving negative feedback and how he make a correlation about alt accounts without completely 100% appropriate proof, but he do have many contribution to this forum, that's make me to not distrust him.

Quote from: Charles-Tim on June 09, 2022, 07:34:27 AM

Edit: But, I did not see the negative tag showing on your profile, I do not see any reason you are so bothered about this yet.

That's because your trust list, perhaps you're included many users who distrust Timelord2067, if you check on BPIP Timelord2067 is a DT2 with 0 power. So the negative feedback will appeared on the trusted feedback.

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Quote from: TheBeardedBaby on June 09, 2022, 07:07:47 AM

Negative feedback for not reading the last post is a bit too much, could be a neutral.

I think even nuetral tag is unnecessary for that, no scam allegation (which is 100% worthy of negative tag), no shit post allegation (which would have been better to even be reported for deletion), no other reasons seeing worthy of negative tag. But only Timelord2067 can remove the negative tag. @Gencecikmen, the best you can do is to contact Timelord2067 and dialogue with him. I believe he will be convinced enough to remove it if there is no other reason you are tagged.

Edit: But, I did not see the negative tag showing on your profile, I do not see any reason you are so bothered about this yet.

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I agree with yahoo, just contact Timelord.
Negative feedback for not reading the last post is a bit too much, could be a neutral.

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It seems a little over the top IMO. Maybe send Timelord a pm on the subject since he is the only 1 who can remove it. If you already have, send him a pm to this thread so that he may respond.

With that being said, maybe take the time to read a thread before posting in it? You may have saved yourself some headache if you had.

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I made a mistake when I was rookie on forums and tried to join paused signature campaign, I was not aware it was paused.
So Timelord2067 gave me -reputation just because I made amaterish mistake.
What do you think? Is this appropriate?

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58240089

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