Topic: Is this right (Read 300 times)
I don't think it is considered as plagiarism since the op included the link of the source rather than posting it as op's own work or article then it is considered as plagiarism which in that thread's case is different so it's not plagiarism at all as it is rather a sharing some articles or news from that site.
I repeat it is not a plagiarism.
A real plagiarism will be like that one (no source, no quote blocks)
We appreciate your feedback as you were very helpful in our investigation. We wish you the same.
Do you think that everything is in order now?
I repeat again for everyone:
At the moment, the algorithm is as follows.
1. The player registers (all is well, no problem)
2. The player is playing (all is well, no problem)
3. The player loses (everything is fine, no problem)
4. The player wins (everything is already not very good, but the person does not know about it yet)
5. The player makes a withdrawal of funds (the player is blocked, everything is bad)
it shows that you are scammers !!!
There is only one rule that is the same for all honest bookmakers - if you are going to verify your account, then you must do this before the first bet !!! if you are allowed to place bets, then you should not carry out verification after bets !!!
You are now writing as if all is well. The man was allowed to take the money after the investigation ... Why should the man worry that a scammer like you will give the money, or maybe they will not give it back ... how lucky ...
Please do check before bets or never do it !!! then you will never have disputs!
Now you have chosen the tactics of cheating! If a person won, then we will do everything in order not to give him money!
You say that you want to improve the community, but in fact you are lying! To improve the community, you need to act differently.
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I did not know that you have problems from Belarus. I have only one account in your bookmaker office and I have nothing to do with other accounts.
I also have only 1 account on bitcointalk.org. I registered here to share my experience with other users.
I have a few questions for you. I will be glad if you answer.
1. If you really have problems and frequent cases of fraud from Belarus, then why did you let me register?
2. Why didn’t you notify me that Belarus would soon be on the list of banned countries?
3. Why was this warning not written in your rules?
4. Why was I able to make a deposit?
5. Why did you accept bets from me?
6. Why did I start to have problems with you after I won a little and put money to withdraw?
7. What have I done to you bad?
At the moment, the algorithm is as follows.
1. The player registers (all is well, no problem)
2. The player is playing (all is well, no problem)
3. The player loses (everything is fine, no problem)
4. The player wins (everything is already not very good, but the person does not know about it yet)
5. The player makes a withdrawal of funds (the player is blocked, everything is bad)
I refuse to believe that this is all for the $ 200 that I managed to win from you, but so far everything looks that way. Probably you confused me with someone or some kind of error occurred. Please check again.
Someone please archive it.
A real plagiarism will be like that one (no source, no quote blocks)
I just got money from playbetr. The incident is over. Sorry that I was harsh in some of my statements, I was just very worried. I wish you all a pleasant day.
We appreciate your feedback as you were very helpful in our investigation. We wish you the same.
Do you think that everything is in order now?
I repeat again for everyone:
At the moment, the algorithm is as follows.
1. The player registers (all is well, no problem)
2. The player is playing (all is well, no problem)
3. The player loses (everything is fine, no problem)
4. The player wins (everything is already not very good, but the person does not know about it yet)
5. The player makes a withdrawal of funds (the player is blocked, everything is bad)
it shows that you are scammers !!!
There is only one rule that is the same for all honest bookmakers - if you are going to verify your account, then you must do this before the first bet !!! if you are allowed to place bets, then you should not carry out verification after bets !!!
You are now writing as if all is well. The man was allowed to take the money after the investigation ... Why should the man worry that a scammer like you will give the money, or maybe they will not give it back ... how lucky ...
Please do check before bets or never do it !!! then you will never have disputs!
Now you have chosen the tactics of cheating! If a person won, then we will do everything in order not to give him money!
You say that you want to improve the community, but in fact you are lying! To improve the community, you need to act differently.
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Massive fraud and multi-accounting from the region as you are well aware. We are in the process of eliminating all of the associated accounts with some very good assistance from one of the associated accounts. Our investigation continues but we did also expect you to create a new account here on bitcointalk even though you have others here. We will continue to make Playbetr an exceptional place to play for everyone and that includes eliminating fraud and multi-accounting from our platform. We have responded to every email promptly during our complete and thorough investigation and we expect this as we continue to crack down on the fraud and mult-accounting.
I did not know that you have problems from Belarus. I have only one account in your bookmaker office and I have nothing to do with other accounts.
I also have only 1 account on bitcointalk.org. I registered here to share my experience with other users.
I have a few questions for you. I will be glad if you answer.
1. If you really have problems and frequent cases of fraud from Belarus, then why did you let me register?
2. Why didn’t you notify me that Belarus would soon be on the list of banned countries?
3. Why was this warning not written in your rules?
4. Why was I able to make a deposit?
5. Why did you accept bets from me?
6. Why did I start to have problems with you after I won a little and put money to withdraw?
7. What have I done to you bad?
At the moment, the algorithm is as follows.
1. The player registers (all is well, no problem)
2. The player is playing (all is well, no problem)
3. The player loses (everything is fine, no problem)
4. The player wins (everything is already not very good, but the person does not know about it yet)
5. The player makes a withdrawal of funds (the player is blocked, everything is bad)
I refuse to believe that this is all for the $ 200 that I managed to win from you, but so far everything looks that way. Probably you confused me with someone or some kind of error occurred. Please check again.
Someone please archive it.
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The author of the medium article and the poster here is the same one. So, there's nothing with sharing the article with the community. But when someone just copy and paste an article with source link in order to increase their oost count, that will be plagiarism in my opinion. People must have summarize an article in their own words and share the source.
Seeing from the thread post in this forum and on the Medium, it was posted by the same username "bitrefill" and was posted on the same date "Jun 25".
Well, we can consider that the author of the post is the same.
He also has added the link source of the thread, so we can see also the article.
In this case, it may not be categorized as plagiarism because it is his writing.
However, in my opinion, it is better if the OP of that thread:
1. Write a simple paraphrase about the article in simpler words and sentences, and more completely he can add the link in order to the people to visit the link of Medium. It will give benefit him because he will also get visitors and readers on his medium article account.
2. As I said, some people may prefer to read the core of the article simply, not the whole writing in this forum. So, if it is paraphrased in shorter and simpler sentences, many more people may be interested to read entirely.
3. If he really wants to add the whole article to be posted in this forum, it is better to make additional information as the preface of the thread, stating that this thread is also posted in medium link....., tell also the objective of posting the thread. It will be better.
Well, we can consider that the author of the post is the same.
He also has added the link source of the thread, so we can see also the article.
In this case, it may not be categorized as plagiarism because it is his writing.
However, in my opinion, it is better if the OP of that thread:
1. Write a simple paraphrase about the article in simpler words and sentences, and more completely he can add the link in order to the people to visit the link of Medium. It will give benefit him because he will also get visitors and readers on his medium article account.
2. As I said, some people may prefer to read the core of the article simply, not the whole writing in this forum. So, if it is paraphrased in shorter and simpler sentences, many more people may be interested to read entirely.
3. If he really wants to add the whole article to be posted in this forum, it is better to make additional information as the preface of the thread, stating that this thread is also posted in medium link....., tell also the objective of posting the thread. It will be better.
<…> I just want to be sure, I am still not stale on this forum and this is so new to me. That means we can copy and paste articles from another site but we should include the source link.
Copy/paste + add source link is the bare minimum required to avoid a post from being rightfully reported as plagiarism. That does not mean though that the post cannot be reported for being a cero added value post (I’m not addressing the particular post referenced in the OP here). Generally speaking, one should verbalise in his own words and/or quote extracts and/or add a versed opinion and/or add questions and/or summarize. That is, there are a range of options to turn an external content into something meaningful, with a personal touch to it after a bit of thought. A mere copy/paste/add link can be performed by a bot, so there is no added value there.The case reported in the OP is probably on the tltr border, and may well be better off with a reduced version and a link to the referenced post. The author seemingly is the same both in Medium and Bitcointalk, but people normally do not want to have to investigate whether they really are one and all, and this could play against the author here (when in doubt, merits may be kept in the bag).
Other than this case, where the OP is the owner of the article, generally a safe way to post an article from somewhere is to include the link from where the article is copied plus add the whole article in quoted text. This way there is will be zero percent chance of being reported or treated as plagiarism.
<…> I just want to be sure, I am still not stale on this forum and this is so new to me. That means we can copy and paste articles from another site but we should include the source link.
Copy/paste + add source link is the bare minimum required to avoid a post from being rightfully reported as plagiarism. That does not mean though that the post cannot be reported for being a cero added value post (I’m not addressing the particular post referenced in the OP here). Generally speaking, one should verbalise in his own words and/or quote extracts and/or add a versed opinion and/or add questions and/or summarize. That is, there are a range of options to turn an external content into something meaningful, with a personal touch to it after a bit of thought. A mere copy/paste/add link can be performed by a bot, so there is no added value there.The case reported in the OP is probably on the tltr border, and may well be better off with a reduced version and a link to the referenced post. The author seemingly is the same both in Medium and Bitcointalk, but people normally do not want to have to investigate whether they really are one and all, and this could play against the author here (when in doubt, merits may be kept in the bag).
If I'm not mistaken, the person who started the thread here is the same person who wrote the article on Medium.
He's got accounts both on this forum and on Medium and he's just posting here what he already posted on his Medium account. That does not appear plagiarism to me. I think he's doing it for the sake of traffic.
However, I preferred the user's OP here to be the summary of his/her article. One does not have to copy-paste the entire long article. He/she could have preferred to open the thread with only the gist of his/her article and then provide the link for those who wish to read the long version.
Users have to leave source links because without source links, it will be considered as plagiarism. Quote blocks are good alternatives.He's got accounts both on this forum and on Medium and he's just posting here what he already posted on his Medium account. That does not appear plagiarism to me. I think he's doing it for the sake of traffic.
However, I preferred the user's OP here to be the summary of his/her article. One does not have to copy-paste the entire long article. He/she could have preferred to open the thread with only the gist of his/her article and then provide the link for those who wish to read the long version.
There is no need for investigation that users who make posts here are the same people of the original documents. At first, it will be considered as plagiarism. If plagiarism appeal is submitted, investigation will be taken but it is best to always leave source links. Even you are owners of original documents because it saves your time for any troubles or appeals.
If I am owner, I don't have any inconveniences to leave source links. Most of people don't leave source links are plagiarizers.
Hey stop!
Not take this so lightly, as "nothing happens"
Note that the one who makes the post is the owner of the account in Medium or at least it is his profile.
Creating content is complex from any point, sometimes it is easy because it really is but it can become as complicated as one day entering your account and being blocked.
The accounts banned in the forum are executed for several reasons but one of them and very strict is the reference to the copy of content.
The misuse of fonts can bring problems, it is not enough to just quote, sometimes the authorization of the content owner is required, even if they are on social networks. Ah! if, public domain but not for people to use them freely to make a profit from the work of others.
People really confuse free use with doing what I want, placing source does not imply full rights. There is content that requires written permissions and that the content owner even tells you how you are going to refer to them.
In this case (op) it is very rare for someone to copy and paste all the information, except in cases like this, where the user is the creator of the original content.
When someone wants to do that here on the forum they should report it first, because their account could be in danger of being banned and having a hard time.
Remember free use does not indicate that you can earn income with the use of the content you intend to use on your website, social network or even right here on the forum.
I recommend that you read this:
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/?lang=es
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7955645
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Not take this so lightly, as "nothing happens"
Note that the one who makes the post is the owner of the account in Medium or at least it is his profile.
Creating content is complex from any point, sometimes it is easy because it really is but it can become as complicated as one day entering your account and being blocked.
The accounts banned in the forum are executed for several reasons but one of them and very strict is the reference to the copy of content.
The misuse of fonts can bring problems, it is not enough to just quote, sometimes the authorization of the content owner is required, even if they are on social networks. Ah! if, public domain but not for people to use them freely to make a profit from the work of others.
People really confuse free use with doing what I want, placing source does not imply full rights. There is content that requires written permissions and that the content owner even tells you how you are going to refer to them.
In this case (op) it is very rare for someone to copy and paste all the information, except in cases like this, where the user is the creator of the original content.
When someone wants to do that here on the forum they should report it first, because their account could be in danger of being banned and having a hard time.
Remember free use does not indicate that you can earn income with the use of the content you intend to use on your website, social network or even right here on the forum.
I recommend that you read this:
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/?lang=es
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7955645
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Yeah it's perfectly fine and recommended to do stuff like this.
Maybe it's something fine and recommended for you, but I don't see any of it in this particular post. If this was the recommended way to communicate on a forum, what would this or any other forum look like?
It is not only a bunch of random information, but also that such a formatted post is almost impossible for anyone to read, so it is almost useless. As someone who is a Legendary member you should not encourage others to do the same or similar things.
A post can only be considered plagiarism if it is copied by a user who does not own it or does not personally do so without proper credits.
So in this case, we see nothing wrong. But hopefully next time OP learns to post correctly, he should just summarize it so that he doesn't have to read this long post. Or, he said right above me, he just put the link where the full details can be read.
So in this case, we see nothing wrong. But hopefully next time OP learns to post correctly, he should just summarize it so that he doesn't have to read this long post. Or, he said right above me, he just put the link where the full details can be read.
Yes that should be how that kind of posts should, you are not only crediting the original posts but you are recommending the readers to visit the original article so they can read the whole content, only highlight or extract contents that generates interest to readers then direct readers to the article.
A post can only be considered plagiarism if it is copied by a user who does not own it or does not personally do so without proper credits.
So in this case, we see nothing wrong. But hopefully next time OP learns to post correctly, he should just summarize it so that he doesn't have to read this long post. Or, he said right above me, he just put the link where the full details can be read.
So in this case, we see nothing wrong. But hopefully next time OP learns to post correctly, he should just summarize it so that he doesn't have to read this long post. Or, he said right above me, he just put the link where the full details can be read.
If I'm not mistaken, the person who started the thread here is the same person who wrote the article on Medium.
He's got accounts both on this forum and on Medium and he's just posting here what he already posted on his Medium account. That does not appear plagiarism to me. I think he's doing it for the sake of traffic.
However, I preferred the user's OP here to be the summary of his/her article. One does not have to copy-paste the entire long article. He/she could have preferred to open the thread with only the gist of his/her article and then provide the link for those who wish to read the long version.
He's got accounts both on this forum and on Medium and he's just posting here what he already posted on his Medium account. That does not appear plagiarism to me. I think he's doing it for the sake of traffic.
However, I preferred the user's OP here to be the summary of his/her article. One does not have to copy-paste the entire long article. He/she could have preferred to open the thread with only the gist of his/her article and then provide the link for those who wish to read the long version.
Yeah it's perfectly fine and recommended to do stuff like this.
Preferably the user should point to parts of the text that are relevant to them/the topic but it doesn't violate anything imo.
Okay. Thank you, I just want to be sure, I am still not stale on this forum and this is so new to me. That means we can copy and paste articles from another site but we should include the source link. Preferably the user should point to parts of the text that are relevant to them/the topic but it doesn't violate anything imo.
Yeah like I said, preferably try to paraphrase the text or highlight the important stuff. You can also use [ quote] tags to differentiate yours and the source's post. Generally if you're picking important stuff eclipses '...' are very commonly used to remove the non usable stuff or ~snip~ also gets used a lot here...
Yeah it's perfectly fine and recommended to do stuff like this.
Preferably the user should point to parts of the text that are relevant to them/the topic but it doesn't violate anything imo.
Okay. Thank you, I just want to be sure, I am still not stale on this forum and this is so new to me. That means we can copy and paste articles from another site but we should include the source link. Preferably the user should point to parts of the text that are relevant to them/the topic but it doesn't violate anything imo.
Yeah it's perfectly fine and recommended to do stuff like this.
Preferably the user should point to parts of the text that are relevant to them/the topic but it doesn't violate anything imo.
It's a social media post too and posts to social media normally immediately enter the public domain...
Preferably the user should point to parts of the text that are relevant to them/the topic but it doesn't violate anything imo.
It's a social media post too and posts to social media normally immediately enter the public domain...
I find this as a complete plagiarism, I am a bit confused and think this is not right.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-easily-acquire-bitcoin-on-every-continent-except-antarctica-5258046
Although it was copied and pasted words for words from this link
https://medium.com/@bitrefill/how-to-easily-acquire-bitcoin-on-every-continent-except-antarctica-a3cf8eaac801
Although the link was included but complete plagiarism. Is this making any sense at all?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-to-easily-acquire-bitcoin-on-every-continent-except-antarctica-5258046
Although it was copied and pasted words for words from this link
https://medium.com/@bitrefill/how-to-easily-acquire-bitcoin-on-every-continent-except-antarctica-a3cf8eaac801
Although the link was included but complete plagiarism. Is this making any sense at all?
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