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Topic: is time for Transnistria to join russia ? (Read 2854 times)

legendary
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April 02, 2014, 12:18:48 PM
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I wasn't comparing Cuba to the US at all. I was comparing Cuba to 1950's Cuba, which had new cars.

Keep believing that communist propaganda. I cannot un-brainwash you from your "facts" about standards of living. I specifically mentioned Cuba for reasons that obviously went over your head.

So having new cars is the new standard of living? If I am believing in Commie propaganda, then you are addicted to NATO propaganda.
legendary
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Anyway, think of Pussy Riot. Russia is one of the very few places in the world where you can go to jail for playing music.
I see 2 April on the calendar, it's too late for such type of jokes. Seriously, I really like the western propaganda staff, this guys really know how to do their work and they are working very hard. Everything looks so believable, it's amazing. I almost envy people who are able to see the world in such colours. Smiley

Well, let's switch from The Matrix to the real world. They didn't "played music". They broke into Church during the divine liturgy, with the so-called "song" which was implemented with using obscene language. At any civilized point on the globe their punishment would be quite similar.

Some examples for comparison:

Brazil: Article 208 of the Criminal Code, imprisonment for a term from one month to one year.
Canada: Article 296 paragraph 1 of the Criminal Code, imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
Greece: Articles 198, 199 and 201 of the Criminal Code. Violation is punished by imprisonment for up to two years;

Germany:

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Section 167
Disturbing the exercise of religion
(1) Whosoever 1. intentionally and inappropriately disturbs a religious service or an act of religious worship of a church or other religious association within Germany or
2. commits defamatory mischief at a place dedicated to the religious worship of such a religious association shall be liable to imprisonment not exceeding three years or a fine.
(2) The ceremonies of an ideological association within Germany shall be equivalent to religious worship.

Finland:

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Section 10 - Breach of the sanctity of religion (563/1998)
A person who
(1) publicly blasphemes against God or, for the purpose of offending, publicly defames or desecrates what is otherwise held to be sacred by a church or religious community, as referred to in the Act on the Freedom of Religion (267/1922), or
(2) by making noise, acting threateningly or otherwise, disturbs worship, ecclesiastical proceedings, other similar religious proceedings or a funeral, shall be sentenced for a breach of the sanctity of religion to a fine or to imprisonment for at most six months.

Russia: Article 148 of a Criminal Code, violation is punished by imprisonment for a term up to 3 years or by a fine.

I even didn't started quoting of USA criminal code articles, so this list could be much longer. I suppose that will be enough, but we can continue.
legendary
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How about Cuba: suffering decades of sanctions as severe punishment for siding with the wrong team? Why did the USSR allow them to become so poor?

You really need to study more about Cuba. You cannot compare Cuba with the US. You should compare Cuba with its neighbors, such as Jamaica, Haiti and the Dominican Republic. Compared to those nations, Cubans enjoy a very high standard of living, thanks to decades of help from the USSR.

Medical care in Cuba is the best in the entire Latin America. Life expectancy is much higher than their neighbors, and even higher than that in the USA. The USSR had invested heavily in giving quality education to the Cubans. As a result we Cuba now have the highest per capita number of doctors in the entire Latin American region.

All this not without the obstacles. The richest 10% of the population fled to the US many decades ago, taking their wealth with them. Everything had to start from the scratch. But still, the Cubans did a wonderful job. The US and NATO is still trying to destroy the nation. But they will never succeed.
legendary
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If you burn the national flag, in a western European country or in Russia, where will you get the harshest penalty?

Russian Federation:

Article 329 of the Criminal Code. Violation shall be punished with labor for a term of 3 to 6 months, or imprisonment up to 1 year.

Ukraine:

Article 338 of the Criminal Code. Violation shall be punished with labor for a term of 3 to 6 months, or imprisonment up to 3 years.

Romania:

Article 236 of the Penal Code.  Any manifestation which expresses contempt for the Romanian symbols is punished by imprisonment, from 6 months to 3 years.

Portugal:

Article 332 of the Penal Code. Violation shall be punished with up to 2 years imprisonment or a fine of up to 8 months.

Soviet Union:

Article 190 of the Criminal Code. Violation shall be punished with up to 2 years imprisonment or a fine of up to 2 months.

Saudi Arabia:

Try to guess Cheesy



OK, maybe my example wasn't so good, but you must add the unwritten customs. I guess that in most of western Europe, there's an old law which gives a harsh sentence, but the courts are much more lenient. Anyway, think of Pussy Riot. Russia is one of the very few places in the world where you can go to jail for playing music.
legendary
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EU salary wouldn't satisfy Moldovans... While Somali migrants will work even for bowl of soup.

You really have no idea about the Somalis. They will do anything to get in to the EU. Once they get in, then they'll engage in all sort of criminal activity. In addition to that, they fleece the general public by exploiting the social benefits. Most of the Somali families have 10-12 children each. So they can claim child benefits to the tune of $4,000 to $5,000 per month, in addition to free or heavily subsidized council housing.

A perfect example here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1293730/Somali-asylum-seeker-family-given-2m-house--complaining-5-bed-London-home-poor-area.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2575725/Somalian-refugee-refused-council-flat-scared-heights-WINS-High-Court-battle-offered-alternative.html

The Moldvins on the other-hand, are heavily exploited in Western Europe. The middle-men usually takes away 2/3rd of their salary, leaving hardly anything to the migrants. And another thing to remember is that the Moldvin migrants to Western Europe are heavily dominated by females (around 2/3rd), which puts them in a weak position to start with. Moldvin migrants to Russia are mostly males (60% or more).
legendary
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EU salary wouldn't satisfy Moldovans... While Somali migrants will work even for bowl of soup.
legendary
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Are they allowed to work in the EU?

Only those with Romanian passports are allowed I think (only some 10% of the Moldvins have that). The EU prefers Somalis, Pakistanis, Sudanese.etc to Moldvins.
legendary
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And remember that some 600,000 Moldvins work in RF (15% of the total population, one-fourth of all adults). The attachment to Russia is much more than any historical link to Romania.

Are they allowed to work in the EU?
legendary
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Also, there is a very large Hungarian minority in Romania who wants to merge with Hungary.
Good. So, now we have another reason for referendum.

Sample of agitation poster:

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People of Hungary, You have to restore historical justice. You have to free your historic lands from a blatant occupation by these separatists. They must respect the territorial integrity of your motherland. Don't let them stole your land!
legendary
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So, according to your logic, Romania was never existent and we have to return Wallahia, Transylvania and Moldavia to Hungary. Or, maybe, we have to resurrect the Golden Horde and return these lands to them, because it was their land in 1200s.

Also, there is a very large Hungarian minority in Romania who wants to merge with Hungary.

This is not the first time that I am seeing frustrated Romanians posting here, asking Moldovia to merge with Romania. But the truth is that not even 10% of the Moldvins want to do so (I mean the ethnic Moldvins, who constitute 69% of the population). Support among the other minorities (Russians, Gagauzes, Ukrainians, Bulgars.etc) for this measure is practically 0.

And remember that some 600,000 Moldvins work in RF (15% of the total population, one-fourth of all adults). The attachment to Russia is much more than any historical link to Romania.
legendary
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Haha, he's already here  Cheesy

In the moment that soviets too Moldova and transnistria  they killed all the men and forced the women and the kids to leave their homes and move in Siberia.
LOL, they were raped and killed by Stalin personally, seems legit.

Russians moved there own people in Moldova and now those Russian wants transnistria to join Russia .
Well... I see that zolace still haven't read census results, but tried to continue his dumb trolling... zolace, you really have to review your agenda.

so called back then The Big Romania,because god its lands back
Your The Big Romania is dead for more than century. Even in Romania almost nobody wants to revive it, because it will crash Romania itself.

After the second world war,the soviets broke Romania and took Moldova and transnistria exactly like they did today with Crimea
It seems that you have no idea what the word "exactly" means. Roll Eyes

No!Transnistria was never Russian land!Transnistria and Moldova were stolen from Romania in 1713 by the Turkish Empier.A few years later that land was offered by the Turkish Empire to the Russian Empire.
You really don't know anything about the european history. OK, let's continue using your logic but using only the real facts, without any shit.

Wallachia, Transylvania and Moldavia were stolen from Hungarian Kingdom in 1526 by the Osman Empire. A few decades later Romanian kingdom was established in 1600. But only a year later, pro-turkish coup d'état happened and these lands joined Osman Empire again. A century later, in 1711 Peter The Great tried to free these lands but failed. Later, in 1859, Wallachia and Moldavia were joined into new pseudo-kingdom under Turkish protectorate.

Independance was declared in 1877, after the en of Russo-Turkish War (1877-78) Romania received northern part of Dobruja with Constanța in exchange for southern part of Bessarabia.

Romania kept neutrality during the beginning of WW1, but later joined war on the Antanta side. After a few failures and 1917 October revolution in Russia the Romanian side achieved some success, Transylvania and southern part of Bessarabia were annexed.

After the WW1 a parliamentary republic was created. Later, in 1938 parliament was dissolved and the royal dictatorship was established.

In the beginning of WW2, 1940s Bessarabia and Northern Bukovina were re-annexed by Soviet Union. Later, Romania annexed this lans again and occupied some lands of Ukrainian SSR. These lands (Bessarabia, Izmail region, Bucovina and parts of the Odessa, Mykolaiv, Vinnytsia provinces) were annexed back in 1944 and Moldovan SSR was established here.

So, according to your logic, Romania was never existent and we have to return Wallachia, Transylvania and Moldavia to Hungary. Or, maybe, we have to resurrect the Golden Horde and return these lands to them, because it was their land in 1200s.
legendary
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According to your theory, there are only Russians out there. Therefore the region should become a part of Russia. Period.

Hmm... if the population is 100% Russian, then why they should remain outside Russia?
legendary
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In the moment that soviets too Moldova and transnistria  they killed all the men and forced the women and the kids to leave their homes and move in Siberia.

So the Soviets killed all the native men. Then they deported the women and kids to Siberia. And then they repopulated the area with Russians.

According to your theory, there are only Russians out there. Therefore the region should become a part of Russia. Period.
legendary
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But you should remember that serving 3 months in a Russian penal colony is much more difficult that serving 20 years in a Portuguese prison.
"Labor" isn't equal to penal colony. Usually this means "wash toilets" or something like this... Convicted person is appointed to some organization, and then he will have to spend required amount of time working for this organization. 5-20% of his salary will be taken in favor of government.
legendary
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If you burn the national flag, in a western European country or in Russia, where will you get the harshest penalty?

It might seem that the punishment in Russia is relatively less harsh compared to EU countries like Portugal. But you should remember that serving 3 months in a Russian penal colony is much more difficult that serving 20 years in a Portuguese prison. Russian prisons are absolute hellholes. Normal people won't survive for long duration.
legendary
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If you burn the national flag, in a western European country or in Russia, where will you get the harshest penalty?

Russian Federation:

Article 329 of the Criminal Code. Violation shall be punished with labor for a term of 3 to 6 months, or imprisonment up to 1 year.

Ukraine:

Article 338 of the Criminal Code. Violation shall be punished with labor for a term of 3 to 6 months, or imprisonment up to 3 years.

Romania:

Article 236 of the Penal Code.  Any manifestation which expresses contempt for the Romanian symbols is punished by imprisonment, from 6 months to 3 years.

Portugal:

Article 332 of the Penal Code. Violation shall be punished with up to 2 years imprisonment or a fine of up to 8 months.

Soviet Union:

Article 190 of the Criminal Code. Violation shall be punished with up to 2 years imprisonment or a fine of up to 2 months.

Saudi Arabia:

Try to guess Cheesy

legendary
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Somehow, Transnistria and Moldova should join the EU as an emergency. If they don't join the free world, they will fall again in the darkness of Soviet rule.

I believe that the EU is the Dark World and Russia is the Free World.

If you burn the national flag, in a western European country or in Russia, where will you get the harshest penalty?
legendary
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Those are great flowers americans love them.  Smiley

Yes they are. And Americans will love them, as they are killing their enemies.
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invade Afghanistan to stop produce Heroine, better

You definitely have no idea about the Afghan poppy business. The Taliban had nearly eradicated it (the opium was affecting the lives of millions of Afghans, Iranians and Pakis).

When the NATO seized control of Afghanistan from the Taliban, they actually encouraged the farmers to grow poppy. Then the NATO helped the smugglers to transport raw opium and heroin to their rival countries (Russia and Iran).

The results are there for everyone to see. Russia has lost 2 million of their young males to heroin addiction. Millions of young Iranians are addicted to raw opium.

No blood shed. Yet NATO has killed off millions of (potential) enemy soldiers.



The Russian media have reported many times in the past (with adequate proof) how the NATO soldiers are providing drug smugglers with technological and financial help, in order to smuggle opium and heroin to Iran and Russia.

Putin knows about it, but he can't do anything. But, don't be over-confident. If he gets a chance, he will kill millions of American youngsters in retaliation.

Those are great flowers americans love them.  Smiley
legendary
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invade Afghanistan to stop produce Heroine, better

You definitely have no idea about the Afghan poppy business. The Taliban had nearly eradicated it (the opium was affecting the lives of millions of Afghans, Iranians and Pakis).

When the NATO seized control of Afghanistan from the Taliban, they actually encouraged the farmers to grow poppy. Then the NATO helped the smugglers to transport raw opium and heroin to their rival countries (Russia and Iran).

The results are there for everyone to see. Russia has lost 2 million of their young males to heroin addiction. Millions of young Iranians are addicted to raw opium.

No blood shed. Yet NATO has killed off millions of (potential) enemy soldiers.



The Russian media have reported many times in the past (with adequate proof) how the NATO soldiers are providing drug smugglers with technological and financial help, in order to smuggle opium and heroin to Iran and Russia.

Putin knows about it, but he can't do anything. But, don't be over-confident. If he gets a chance, he will kill millions of American youngsters in retaliation.
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the UN should invade both nations and install a temporary UN government there to stop the criminal activity.
invade Afghanistan to stop produce Heroine, better

Invade USA to stop their evil attacks and murders... The best option.
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the UN should invade both nations and install a temporary UN government there to stop the criminal activity.
invade Afghanistan to stop produce Heroine, better
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Somehow, Transnistria and Moldova should join the EU as an emergency. If they don't join the free world, they will fall again in the darkness of Soviet rule.

There is no Soviet rule. The Soviet Union is dead, and so is the communism it tried to impose on people, including the people of Russia. Russian rule on the other hand is alive and well, and while it has many problems, it is probably better than the corrupt and ineffectual governments of some other eastern European countries.
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Indeed
legendary
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Somehow, Transnistria and Moldova should join the EU as an emergency. If they don't join the free world, they will fall again in the darkness of Soviet rule.

I believe that the EU is the Dark World and Russia is the Free World.
legendary
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Somehow, Transnistria and Moldova should join the EU as an emergency. If they don't join the free world, they will fall again in the darkness of Soviet rule.
legendary
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I've never even heard of Transnistria. Where is it?
On the border between Ukraine and Moldavia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

Officially, it is a part of Moldovia.
legendary
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I've never even heard of Transnistria. Where is it?
On the border between Ukraine and Moldavia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria
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Both Transnistria and Moldovia are severely affected by organized criminal activity. Somewhere between 20% and 40% of all the adult Moldvin women have been sold as slaves to the Turks and Arabs. That is the scale of the criminal activity there. Rather than merging with Russia, the UN should invade both nations and install a temporary UN government there to stop the criminal activity.

The UN can't invade anything, it has no army, nor can the UN create a temporary government.  Rather, it is UN member states that can do these things. So what country should do this? The US? The UK and Canada? France?

Furthermore any security action taken by the UN must be approved by the security council, on which Russia has veto power.

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I've never even heard of Transnistria. Where is it?
legendary
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Both Transnistria and Moldovia are severely affected by organized criminal activity. Somewhere between 20% and 40% of all the adult Moldvin women have been sold as slaves to the Turks and Arabs. That is the scale of the criminal activity there. Rather than merging with Russia, the UN should invade both nations and install a temporary UN government there to stop the criminal activity.
legendary
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Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (Transnistria) it's a multi-national and multi-cultural state.

It has 3 official languages (russian, ukrainia and moldovan), education system* uses 3 languages too;
They are trying to join Russian Federation since declaration of independence;
They are still using soviet-style symbolic and economy (i.e. state capitalism approach).

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There are universities with an accreditation from the Ministry of Education and Science (Russia), so their diplomas are fully recognized in Russia. If you wish to use Diplomas of transnistrian university in Moldavia then you need to pass a special examination procedure first.
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chaos is fun...…damental :)
i bet most of you dont know wtf is this country Transnistria, well is not, i some land @ old soviet ammunition and weapon deposits (40 000 metric tons of weaponry + ammo) and Transnistria is between and Ukraine, they habe their own coins, ID documents but on theory they are part of Moldova


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/724121

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In 2006, Transnistria held a referendum similar to Sunday's referendum in Crimea, at which 97% of the population voted for independence from Moldova with subsequent accession to Russia
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