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Quote from: Elwar on February 05, 2015, 02:56:05 PM

The guy, Abu Mustafa who allegedly posted a Bitcoin address on some ISIS forum was a prisoner in Abu Ghraib.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/abu-ghraib-remains-scar-on-u-s-war-efforts/

So maybe the story should be that the US horrible treatment of Iraqi prisoners has caused them to join ISIS.

Maybe the anti-Bitcoin reporters would like to report the anti-war story about how our attacks actually turn people into enemies.

They can't. The 'reporters' have to wait for a republican administration to be in power... So bitcoin be it!

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The guy, Abu Mustafa who allegedly posted a Bitcoin address on some ISIS forum was a prisoner in Abu Ghraib.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/12/abu-ghraib-remains-scar-on-u-s-war-efforts/

So maybe the story should be that the US horrible treatment of Iraqi prisoners has caused them to join ISIS.

Maybe the anti-Bitcoin reporters would like to report the anti-war story about how our attacks actually turn people into enemies.

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

~~Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..~~

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

The inclusion of "using bitcoin for recruitment" set my BS alarm bells ringing, that is such a loaded suggestion, to imply that BTC is somehow complicate in the clusterfuck. I have yet to see any evidence of this claim in this forum. IMO Its just another attempt by those who are afraid that the BTC and its community are cutting through both sides of the shit cake that Zionists and IS want to serve the world. BTC is neutral and transparent, a concept that neither of these sides can comprehend.

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This is something that shouldn't be in the news at all.
It was never debatable that bitcoin network can/may be/will be used for (among other things) terrorist activity.

Like someone above already stated; Terrorists use USD also ! What are we doing regarding that fact?!
Drug dealers, child smuglers, terrorists .. they all use USD daily, what do u expect to do about it? Ban fiat ?

It all comes down to fight against misuse of financial goods, and the first thing i think that will get shut down are
services like bitmixer, that knowingly provide safe-heaven for shady activity, since bitcoin can't be shut down
easily like libertyreserve was.

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

~~Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..~~

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

I guess that's bad news for: ★777Coin.com★ Fun BTC Casino!

Thank you for pointing this out. I would never play in a casino with dirty isis bitcoins...

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Huh? Did I miss anything? Or did you misunderstood something?

Isis sales the oil they have control on. Isis is using all the cash they stole in major banks. Why is bitcoin a target, and not oil or all that $$$ they are using to buy stuff to burn people alive and, now according to the UN, tools to make holes in the ground to bury children alive? They believe in the value of gold and silver, they do not consider any virtual anything compatible with their laws. Shouldn't gold bugs and silver bugs be under surveillance first instead of bitcoin? Maybe they already are...

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Quote from: Wilikon on February 03, 2015, 06:58:38 PM

Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

~~Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..~~

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

I guess that's bad news for: ★777Coin.com★ Fun BTC Casino!

Thank you for pointing this out. I would never play in a casino with dirty isis bitcoins...

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Huh? Did I miss anything? Or did you misunderstood something?

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

~~Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..~~

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

I guess that's bad news for: ★777Coin.com★ Fun BTC Casino!

Thank you for pointing this out. I would never play in a casino with dirty isis bitcoins...

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Breaking news: Terrorists use cash too!

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Would be funny if Bitcoin keeps crashing and they lose a chunk of the value Grin

Its a non-story. They will need all available methods and Bitcoin happens to be one.

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It is a real convenience for criminals, since the transaction is anonymous and difficult to trace. The fact that there is no real good way to trace it might trigger many regulatory concerns, so that regulators might either strictly classify it as a digital asset trade-able on regulated exchanges, or ban it and drive it underground

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One guy on a US website puts a Bitcoin address on a terrorist website and now somehow ISIS (the whole organization) is fundraising with bitcoins?

First of all, the address is open for anyone to trace.

The ISIS in Iraq actually get their funding by going into a city and stealing whatever they can by force.

The ISIS in Iraq is full of people that have no clue about technology and cannot even figure out how to flush a toilet (don't ask me how I know this).

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What's the big deal? Terrorists also collect cash
Nobody disses cash because of that, do they?

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It's sad to see stuff like this. Sure all publicity is good publicity but I hate to see Bitcoin mentioned with criminals so often.

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Really! It's already hard to do most things with BTC in the US or anywhere in Europe, so I wonder what you could do with BTC in Syria or Irak where IS is.

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Pretty sure Bitcoin makes it easier since they'll have the coins to track and any mixer that helps mix the coins will be forced into cooperation or get charges of aiding a terrorism group.

They both have pros and cons, but this just seems like they were fishing just to see if they could get any donations. Bitcoin certainly may make it easier for the casual person who doesn't know how to get money to terrorists and can be done pretty safely with bitcoin. Hopefully this doesn't become widespread, though.

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Quote from: needmoney on January 30, 2015, 07:23:07 AM

And another bad news for bitcoin Undecided

Your kidding me right ?

You guys seem more uneducated then the people(ISIS) who are doing this shit to give HUMANS a bad name.
Terror organization - ISIS - TALIBAN - AL-QAEDA - AFRICAN AND ASIAN GROUPS - YEMEN - have all been "dfund raising" in USD, EURO, GBP, AED, YEN, INR, RAY and many others.

Probably the percentage of them doing it in other currencies is 99% to bitcoin (if true) is 1%.

Use your head before even thinking of things like this, also do try to see the reality.

All these so called Terror Organizations have been incubated in washington. There is actual proof to that but no proof to ISIS using Btc to raise funds.

I swear sometimes peoples incompentency to understand reality surprises me.

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Quote from: unamis76 on January 30, 2015, 05:35:10 AM

ISIS also uses thousands, if not millions of dollars and other currencies. Why isn't that being reported?

Do they suddenly found someone that sells weapons in Bitcoin?

It's pretty obvious these kind of people are going to use Bitcoin, as it provides them an easy way to transfer funds, just like drug dealers did, but I seriously don't get the press's point when millions of units of fiat currency are used for crimes every week.

Because the people spreading the negativity have an agenda, but also because the general public are sheeple. They don't want to listen to how you can buy drugs/guns/politicians/cp/bombs with fiat but seem to think its a big deal because you can buy some of these things with bitcoin too.

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Quote from: Akka on January 30, 2015, 04:03:02 AM

I highly doubt that there are any significant amounts in BTC that they use.

And even if. When bad people use a tool that only proves one thing: That tool is useful and it works.

Everything that's useful and works will be used by bad people, using this to argue against that tool is either just ignorant stupidity or willful misinformation in the hopes that ignorant and stupid people will pick it up.

I imagine ISIS uses the internet as well for it's funding and propaganda efforts and quite more successful than Bitcoin, probably even Facebook.

Should we shut down Facebook, because Terrorist use it?

FEDs /US Treasury ...would like that if they moved a lot of money via BTC ....easier to track BTC then a suitcase full of cash ..if you passed the hat on in the usa fundraiser wise

just saying ...also last years treasury in front of congress pointed this out ...and did not beat up on BTC due to this fact..in that
cash was just as transparent or more so..also pointed out at least they could trace btc in a geographic and big picture kinda way at worst

a non issue imho but man that FUD sure can sell some papers and web ads your news site don't ya know!

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

~~Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..~~

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

I think this has been happening since 2011. If it did not stop people then from using bitcoin, it certainly won't stop them now .
Its just a wrong use for a technology, just like you can use chemicals to make bombs.

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

~~Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..~~

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

1st alarm bell: source is 'Haaretz', another sensationalist un-objective media outlet calling themselves 'news' :p

But even if it were from a respected source, as others have said, just because they solicit Bitcoin says nothing about BTC. Just like it says nothing about the $ or € or whatever else that they raise.

Im sure that in the future, whatever 'middle east boogie monster' comes after these ISIS fuckers will be using even more BTC to raise funds than ISIS do today.
But at that stage hopefully BTC will be integrated more successfully in the west - and so it will be a mute point, just like the fact that ISIS and AlQ and the Taliban and the Northern Alliance and Hezbolah, Musharraf, Sisi etc etc etc all raise funds in $ (ie the dollar is integrated properly, so its not really a 'news' story).

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Quote from: Mellnik on January 30, 2015, 06:17:06 AM

http://files.mellnik.com/tmp/isis.mp3

WTF. THats like making fun of their whole religion. Not cool.

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

~~Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..~~

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

Before Bitcoin ISIS was using Fiat to do all their dirty work Tongue

Doesn't make it bad. Its just that bitcoin is better for them .

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ISIS also uses thousands, if not millions of dollars and other currencies. Why isn't that being reported?

Do they suddenly found someone that sells weapons in Bitcoin?

It's pretty obvious these kind of people are going to use Bitcoin, as it provides them an easy way to transfer funds, just like drug dealers did, but I seriously don't get the press's point when millions of units of fiat currency are used for crimes every week.

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All the new Ponzi schemes popping up on Gambling section are actually ISIS plan to get bitcoins.

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Quote from: Kazimir on January 30, 2015, 04:28:14 AM

Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 04:17:39 AM

Alright, if my first sentence provoke Bitcoin fan.. I apologize. I marked it with strike tag now.

I mean to say Bitcoin is begin used by many people including terrorists. I dont mean to invite trouble.

Terrorists are using WAY more dollars than bitcoins. What's the point?

And way more oil than any other revenue stream.

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 04:35:49 AM

Not sure.. Well.. maybe they wanted to use something which do not require physical contact or personal information.

They pretty much control huge part of land, you can say they've got their own country. I don't think they'd be concerned about physical contact or personal info. And as per article, they would use bitcoin to raise USD (or other fiat).

I hope most people will see right through those bullshit news. Couple of comments from the RT site:

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come on, even a kid knows US and saudi was funding ISIS for a long time, just until ISIS got hold of that oil fields. I don't think they have time to sit around the computers and look for bitcoins to come in Just so they can buy that new nissan car and AK 47. A surprising news would be "ISIS commanding officer decides to come out and ITS OBAMA!!!" now That, IS a news

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It's ALL about keeping the petrodollar and getting rid of Bitcoin which is a serious threat to the central banks . I knew that they would pull these lies out of their demonic little think tanks .

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So bitcoin is being used to fund terrorists that USA setup to get rid of Assad? Well USA shouldn't have setup ISIS then?!

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Quote from: Kazimir on January 30, 2015, 04:28:14 AM

Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 04:17:39 AM

Alright, if my first sentence provoke Bitcoin fan.. I apologize. I marked it with strike tag now.

I mean to say Bitcoin is begin used by many people including terrorists. I dont mean to invite trouble.

Terrorists are using WAY more dollars than bitcoins. What's the point?

Not sure.. Well.. maybe they wanted to use something which do not require physical contact or personal information.

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It makes no difference whether it's ISIS or a charity that uses Bitcoin, it's here to stay whether people like it or not.

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 04:17:39 AM

Alright, if my first sentence provoke Bitcoin fan.. I apologize. I marked it with strike tag now.

I mean to say Bitcoin is begin used by many people including terrorists. I dont mean to invite trouble.

Terrorists are using WAY more dollars than bitcoins. What's the point?

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Alright, if my first sentence provoke Bitcoin fan.. I apologize. I marked it with strike tag now.

I mean to say Bitcoin is begin used by many people including terrorists. I dont mean to invite trouble.

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

This is another case of catchy title for an article, but if you read the bottom part:

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But most importantly, says Gurule, is that the Islamic State, unlike Al-Qaeda, is a self-funding organization and its principal source of funding comes from the sale of oil on the black market. ISIS also receives some money from ransom payments and extortion payments within the territory it controls.

“[ISIS] doesn’t rely on external sources of funding from sympathetic donors,” he said.

So, so far we have some related cell asking for bitcoin donations, but no evidence of them receiving a single satoshi. Although this will probably happen sooner or later, such donations will be absolutely irrelevant to total IS funding.

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Quote from: jacktheking on January 30, 2015, 03:54:35 AM

Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..

More and more people are using Bitcoin, period.

Unfortunately, this also includes some bad people, yes. As with any development or novelty that offers massive improvement and advantages over the existing alternative.

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I highly doubt that there are any significant amounts in BTC that they use.

And even if. When bad people use a tool that only proves one thing: That tool is useful and it works.

Everything that's useful and works will be used by bad people, using this to argue against that tool is either just ignorant stupidity or willful misinformation in the hopes that ignorant and stupid people will pick it up.

I imagine ISIS uses the internet as well for it's funding and propaganda efforts and quite more successful than Bitcoin, probably even Facebook.

Should we shut down Facebook, because Terrorist use it?

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~~Hmm.. seem like more and more people are using Bitcoin in a bad way..~~

ISIS is using bitcoin for recruitment and fundraising reported a an Israeli cyber intelligence analyst.. Read more here - http://rt.com/usa/227703-bitcoin-isis-us-fundraising/.

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Haaretz newspaper quoted an Israeli analyst who said he traced an ISIS funding website and “has uncovered concrete evidence that a terror cell, purporting to be related to the Islamic State – is soliciting for bitcoins as part of its fundraising efforts.”

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