Islamic State finance chief 'killed in air strikes'

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 13, 2015, 02:24:06 AM

Quote from: panju1 on December 12, 2015, 05:36:19 AM

ISIS reminds me of Osama Bin Laden in his early days. He received assistance from the US to carry out a jihad against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. We all know how that ended.

Afghanistan was not that much of a success story for the United States. But they can take many positives out of it:

1. The Afghan intervention was one of the triggers for the disintegration of the USSR.
2. Afghanistan is now a hardline Islamist country, diagonally opposite to the situation when it was under the Soviet control (in the 1970s Afghanistan was one of the most liberal Muslim-majority nations).
3. The NATO still controls the heroin trade from Afghanistan, and they are inflicting huge damage upon Russia and Iran.

All those NATO countries used their military forces to protect these heroin growers. Still trust NATO command?

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Quote from: panju1 on December 12, 2015, 05:36:19 AM

ISIS reminds me of Osama Bin Laden in his early days. He received assistance from the US to carry out a jihad against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. We all know how that ended.

Afghanistan was not that much of a success story for the United States. But they can take many positives out of it:

1. The Afghan intervention was one of the triggers for the disintegration of the USSR.
2. Afghanistan is now a hardline Islamist country, diagonally opposite to the situation when it was under the Soviet control (in the 1970s Afghanistan was one of the most liberal Muslim-majority nations).
3. The NATO still controls the heroin trade from Afghanistan, and they are inflicting huge damage upon Russia and Iran.

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Thank you! Keep up the good work! Nice going....Next, let's make sure we publish the proof that Assad of Syria is buying the oil from IS...I mean, what's left of it.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 12, 2015, 02:49:02 AM

Hmm... right now, they are attacking only the pro-Russians (regime forces, Iranian installations.etc). They have carefully avoided targeting the pro-American targets (Israel, Saudi Arabia.etc). I don't know for how long the situation will remain the same. Once the current leadership is replaced with new guys, the priorities can change.

ISIS reminds me of Osama Bin Laden in his early days. He received assistance from the US to carry out a jihad against the Soviet occupation of Afghanistan. We all know how that ended.

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Quote from: panju1 on December 12, 2015, 02:21:15 AM

It could very well be an American invention or intervention. Russia may be kept busy at the moment. But the problem with these Jihadi nutcases is that they cannot be controlled. You may find them losing interest in blowing up Russian targets and they might start targeting American ones.

Hmm... right now, they are attacking only the pro-Russians (regime forces, Iranian installations.etc). They have carefully avoided targeting the pro-American targets (Israel, Saudi Arabia.etc). I don't know for how long the situation will remain the same. Once the current leadership is replaced with new guys, the priorities can change.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 12, 2015, 02:17:26 AM

Quote from: panju1 on December 12, 2015, 01:27:51 AM

ISIS has made some powerful enemies.
Russia doesn't care about niceties and is pounding away at them.
As long as they control territories, there will be no let up in the bombing.

I am thinking about it in a different way. What if the ISIS is an American intervention, designed to keep Russia wasting its time, money and soldiers in a country which is far away from its national borders? And ISIS is not that interested in controlling vast swathes of territories. They are equally good in waging guerrilla warfare as well.

It could very well be an American invention or intervention. Russia may be kept busy at the moment. But the problem with these Jihadi nutcases is that they cannot be controlled. You may find them losing interest in blowing up Russian targets and they might start targeting American ones.

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Quote from: panju1 on December 12, 2015, 01:27:51 AM

ISIS has made some powerful enemies.
Russia doesn't care about niceties and is pounding away at them.
As long as they control territories, there will be no let up in the bombing.

I am thinking about it in a different way. What if the ISIS is an American intervention, designed to keep Russia wasting its time, money and soldiers in a country which is far away from its national borders? And ISIS is not that interested in controlling vast swathes of territories. They are equally good in waging guerrilla warfare as well.

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Quote from: DavieT1337 on December 11, 2015, 10:38:00 PM

Ahh crap dont believe this shit. Shocked

They all are doing quit well Money. They claimed enough at Raqqa Bank. I think another dead extremist will not stop this.
I think putin is doing the right stuff for the Oil and stoping the War Wink

You will see Cheesy

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ISIS has made some powerful enemies.
Russia doesn't care about niceties and is pounding away at them.
As long as they control territories, there will be no let up in the bombing.

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Ahh crap dont believe this shit. Shocked

They all are doing quit well Money. They claimed enough at Raqqa Bank. I think another dead extremist will not stop this.
I think putin is doing the right stuff for the Oil and stoping the War Wink

You will see Cheesy

regards
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Quote from: bryant.coleman on December 11, 2015, 12:55:45 PM

Quote from: croato on December 11, 2015, 07:27:42 AM

Hope Russia will send troops there and end that cause western politic sucks so they would bomb there for next 100 years and achieve nothing.

Stop day-dreaming. Russia will NEVER send its ground troops to Syria (perhaps with the exception of brief commando operations). And Russian air strikes are not the only option to destroy the ISIS. The Islamic State will crumble in a matter of weeks, if not days, if the inflow of Jihadis from Turkey is stopped completely.

It's first and primarily an internet war, and has to be fought in the social media and at various levels on the internet and messaging systems.

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Quote from: croato on December 11, 2015, 07:27:42 AM

Hope Russia will send troops there and end that cause western politic sucks so they would bomb there for next 100 years and achieve nothing.

Stop day-dreaming. Russia will NEVER send its ground troops to Syria (perhaps with the exception of brief commando operations). And Russian air strikes are not the only option to destroy the ISIS. The Islamic State will crumble in a matter of weeks, if not days, if the inflow of Jihadis from Turkey is stopped completely.

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I doubt that will make big difference, ISIS have huge recruiting pool around globe and only brutal ground campaign could stop that madness there. Also, with whole world bombing them, they feel and look like heroes. Less than 100k armed goatfuckers fight whole world and world strike just from air like fags. Hope Russia will send troops there and end that cause western politic sucks so they would bomb there for next 100 years and achieve nothing.

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I agree, this will make little difference, if any.

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This will have no effect on their operational capability or funding. The Islamic State is not an organization which is centered around an individual or a group of individuals. They are also very decentralized. It is an ideologically driven organization, and they will be able to quickly replace Muwaffaq Mustafa Mohammed al-Karmoush.

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Quote from: panju1 on December 10, 2015, 08:45:38 PM

Islamic State finance chief 'killed in air strikes'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35064400

This might affect their funding and their capabilities.

they lose a senior chief every other day according to the news, at that rate should run out of leadership in a few months.

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Islamic State finance chief 'killed in air strikes'

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35064400

This might affect their funding and their capabilities.

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