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Nice one Wilkon writing a research paper over here and I don't even have that many citations for my data
You should go write one on approval ratings of ISIS and other groups around the world you got more than enough polling evidence to infer and draw trend data co-variants R values and come to a conclusion ^^


You are giving me too much credits. I am just a simpleton copy paster. The people involved in that link did all the heavy lifting (and it is always updated)

But to be fair (and balanced) I am sure there is as much counter studies to prove all that data wrong...............................  Wink




Well you know it also depends who is sponsoring the Data
Example: Big Pharma in Europe trying to make studies to show their drug is safe because its preventive law that EU products are based on
And the US ones going screw it lets sell it first studies and after effects later
(Ah Atrazine)
http://www.nrdc.org/health/atrazine/


I can't find where these numbers come from at all. Here are the actual stats from the report, page 5 in case you want to actually look it up:

World Public Opinion:
61 8% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32 5% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41 9% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38 7% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83 24% of Palestinians approve of attacks on Americans (only 14 59% oppose)
62 11% of Jordanians approve of attacks on Americans (21 68% oppose)
42 8% of Turks approve of some of attacks on Americans (45 74% oppose)

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf   <---- Highly recommend checking your sources before copy/pasting someone else's interpretation of them. These numbers aren't even close.

Hmm caught me napping since I didn't do a data verify interesting numbers though
1/10 average thanks jaysabi
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Um this isn't new. They've killed lots of alledged homosexuals. They frequently seem to be throwing them off buildings. What I wonder is how do they even know they're homosexuals? Probably just like a witch hunt I bet.

That's what I heard on the radio too, that they through them off something like a 3 story building.  Now I'm thinking, there had to be higher buildings or did they do that intentionally for a slow death?  Whatever the case.. it's messed up regardless of anyone's sexual orientation.  Then again, it's news but it's not surprising at all.  I mean it's important people know about it and talk about it but I don't think anyone is surprised by this at all.
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World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf




I can't find where these numbers come from at all. Here are the actual stats from the report, page 5 in case you want to actually look it up:

World Public Opinion:
61 8% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32 5% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41 9% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38 7% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83 24% of Palestinians approve of attacks on Americans (only 14 59% oppose)
62 11% of Jordanians approve of attacks on Americans (21 68% oppose)
42 8% of Turks approve of some of attacks on Americans (45 74% oppose)

http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf   <---- Highly recommend checking your sources before copy/pasting someone else's interpretation of them. These numbers aren't even close.
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Very much focus from the media on ISIS right now... it's nothing new that homos has been executed for their deeds in Islam countries..
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It's also really disturbing seeing photos of men being thrown from high buildings blindfolded for being gay. And women being stoned for adultery. They really do choose the most fucked up ways of killing people.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg. They also put a man in a cage and set him alight. And they tricked a mother into eating her kidnapped son. Granted, these were isolated examples but still.

If we had democracies in these regions, we would get an idea of the thoughts of the majority. Unfortunately, we don't.

There are functional democracies in the Middle East although they tend to be quite rare. Turkey, while not perfect, is probably the most well known example. Kuwait and Lebanon also have democratic governments.

EDIT: While not located in the Middle East, Morocco and Tunisia are Muslim-majority countries with democracies. And if you go further east, there are also Muslim-majority democracies in Asia too (e.g. Indonesia, Bangladesh, and Kyrgyzstan).
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Muslim Opinion Polls
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I stand humbled. But would like to add that the results of opinion polls can be twisted by asking leading questions.
Moreover, there is a lot of resentment against America because of it supporting Israel. So questions asked about America result in a hostile response.
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Muslim Opinion Polls

Nice peaceful guys indeed... :/
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Nice one Wilkon writing a research paper over here and I don't even have that many citations for my data
You should go write one on approval ratings of ISIS and other groups around the world you got more than enough polling evidence to infer and draw trend data co-variants R values and come to a conclusion ^^


You are giving me too much credits. I am just a simpleton copy paster. The people involved in that link did all the heavy lifting (and it is always updated)

But to be fair (and balanced) I am sure there is as much counter studies to prove all that data wrong...............................  Wink


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They just killed 20 innocent, non homosexual people just a few days ago. If they're saying that like it's a big thing, they've been mostly targeting journalists. This is like saying they've killed all these men for doing freelance journalism.
legendary
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Nice one Wilkon writing a research paper over here and I don't even have that many citations for my data
You should go write one on approval ratings of ISIS and other groups around the world you got more than enough polling evidence to infer and draw trend data co-variants R values and come to a conclusion ^^
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Being anti-Gay is super gay, IMO.

It's weird and, well... gay to spend your time and effort focusing on "who is gay" and "what are gay people doing". Why is this such a thing with religious people? Can't get it out of your mind? Want to punish someone else for living the life they want, while you have to repress your own feelings?

Yes i think this a very good rule of thumb 50% of the time. Like when you get groups of guys hanging out at the gym or pub etc assuming people are gay for not being like them whilst they hang out with guys lol.  #topgun
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There are crazy people in all religions.
The only problem, unfortunately for Muslims, is that extremists like ISIS are in power.

Here is an example of a Christian who would like to see gays executed.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/christian_activist_files_ballot_measure_to_execute_all_gay_people_by_bullets_to_the_head
A Christian activist would like to see all gay people in California executed by firing squad, just so the rest of the citizenry can avoid having to endure God's "wrath." Matt McLaughlin last week paid $200 to file a ballot initiative with the Attorney General in Sacramento that proposes his Sodomite Suppression Act become law.
You do not prove the general with the exception.

A large percentage of Muslims agree with the radicals such as ISIS.  That can never be the case with Christianity.

I would contest your assertion that a large percentage of Muslims agree with ISIS. It is possible that what you see is a very vocal minority. Even in Iraq/Syria, a large percentage of the population could be silent because they are terrified of ISIS.
If we had democracies in these regions, we would get an idea of the thoughts of the majority. Unfortunately, we don't.




Muslim Opinion Polls

A "Tiny Minority of Extremists"?

"Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be
unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is their destination." 
Quran 9:73

Have you heard that Islam is a peaceful religion because most Muslims live peacefully and that only a "tiny minority of extremists" practice violence?  That's like saying that White supremacy must be perfectly fine since only a tiny minority of racists ever hurt anyone.  Neither does it explain why religious violence is largely endemic to Islam, despite the tremendous persecution of religious minorities in Muslim countries.

In truth, even a tiny minority of "1%" of Muslims worldwide translates to 15 million believers - which is hardly an insignificant number.  However, the "minority" of Muslims who approve of terrorists, their goals, or their means of achieving them is much greater than this.  In fact, it isn't even a true minority in some cases, depending on how goals and targets are defined.

The following polls convey what Muslims say are their attitudes toward terrorism, al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden, the 9/11 attacks, violence in defense of Islam, Sharia, honor killings, and matters concerning assimilation in Western society.  The results are all the more astonishing because most of the polls were conducted by organizations with an obvious interest in "discovering" agreeable statistics that downplay any cause for concern.

(These have been compiled over the years, so not all links remain active.  We will continue adding  to this).

 

Terrorism

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
http://people-press.org/report/206/a-year-after-iraq-war

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/06/32-of-palestinians-support-infanticide/
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/article/detail/1619036/2013/04/22/Zestien-procent-moslimjongens-vindt-terrorisme-aanvaardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified.  1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/poll-89-of-palestinians-support-jihad-terror-attacks-on-israely

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban.  13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/muslim-publics-share-concerns-about-extremist-groups/

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.

 

al-Qaeda, Osama bin Laden and Islamic State (ISIS)

Pew Research (2007): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (27% can’t make up their minds).  Only 58% reject al-Qaeda outright.
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 5% of American Muslims have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (14% can’t make up their minds).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2011): 1 in 10 native-born Muslim-Americans have a favorable view of al-Qaeda.
http://people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

al-Jazeera (2006): 49.9% of Muslims polled support Osama bin Laden
http://terrorism.about.com/b/2006/09/11/al-jazeeras-readers-on-911-499-support-bin-laden.htm

Pew Research: 59% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
41% of Indonesians support Osama bin Laden in 2007
56% of Jordanians support Osama bin Laden in 2003
http://www.forbes.com/2010/02/15/iran-terrorism-al-qaida-islam-opinions-columnists-ilan-berman.html

Pew Global: 51% of Palestinians support Osama bin Laden
54% of Muslim Nigerians Support Osama bin Laden
http://frontpagemag.com/2010/02/10/blinded-by-hate/
http://pewglobal.org/files/pdf/268.pdf

MacDonald Laurier Institute: 35% of Canadian Muslims would not repudiate al-Qaeda
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/

World Public Opinion: Muslim majorities agree with the al-Qaeda goal of Islamic law.
Muslim majorities agree with al-Qaeda goal of keeping Western values out of Islamic countries;
(Egypt: 88%; Indonesia 76%; Pakistan 60%; Morocco 64%)
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

ICM Poll: 13% of Muslim in Britain support al-Qaeda attacks on America.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/guardian-muslims-march-2004.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

World Public Opinion: Attitude toward Osama bin Laden:
Egypt: 44% positive, 17% negative, and 25% mixed feelings
Indonesia: 14% positive, 26% negative, 21% mixed feelings (39% did not answer)
Pakistan: 25% positive, 15% negative, 26% mixed feelings (34% did not answer)
Morocco: 27% positive, 21% negative, 26% mixed feelings
Jordanians, Palestinians, Turks and Azerbaijanis. Jordanians combined for: 27% positive, 20 percent negative, and 27 percent mixed feelings.  (Palestinians 56% positive, 20% negative, 22 percent mixed feelings).
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 49% of Nigerian Muslims have favorable view of al-Qaeda (34% unfavorable)
23% of Indonesians have favorable view of al-Qaeda (56% unfavorable)
34% of Jordanians have favorable view of al-Qaeda
25% of Indonesians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden (59% had confidence in 2003)
1 in 5 Egyptians have "confidence" in Osama bin Laden
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2011): 22% of Indonesians have a favorable view of al-Qaeda (21% unfavorable)
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Gallup: 51% of Pakistanis grieve Osama bin Laden (only 11% happy over death)
44% of Pakistanis viewed Osama bin Laden as a martyr (only 28% as an oulaw)
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/05/majority_of_our_pakistani_alli.html

Zogby International 2011: “Majorities in all six countries said they viewed the United States less favorably following the killing of the Al-Qaeda head [Osama bin Laden] in Pakistan”
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hbpg5ou3Qk96-aTbpJyD4K0x2b9w?docId=CNG.561caa8da42ba25c5ee1f3158a926c28.c11
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/checkpoint-washington/post/arab-worlds-views-of-us-president-obama-increasingly-negative-new-poll-finds/2011/07/12/gIQASzHVBI_blog.html

Populus Survey: 18% of British Muslims would be proud or indifferent if a family member joined al-Qaeda.
http://www.populuslimited.com/poll_summaries/2006_07_04_Times_ITV.htm
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Policy Exchange (2006): 7% Muslims in Britain admire al-Qaeda and other terrorist groups.
http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/libimages/246.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Informal poll of Saudis in August 2014 shows 92% agree that Islamic State (ISIS) "conforms to the values of Islam and Islamic law."
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/92-of-saudis-believes-that-isis-conforms-to-the-values-of-islam-and-islamic-law-survey/

Hurriyet Daily News / Metropoll (2015): 20% of Turks support the slaughter of Charlie Hebdo staffers and cartoonists.
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/polls-finding-on-islam-and-violence-should-ring-alarm-bells.aspx?pageID=449&nID=77797&NewsCatID=412

 

9/11 Attacks

al-Arabiya: 36% of Arabs polled said the 9/11 attacks were morally justified; 38% disagreed; 26% Unsure
http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/09/10/166274.html

Gallup: 38.6% of Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified (7% "fully", 6.5% "mostly", 23.1% "partially")
http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/2008/05/that-tiny-percentage-of-radical-muslims.html
http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC06.php?CID=1154

Pew Research (2011): Large majorities of Muslims believe in 9/11 conspiracy
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/2066/muslims-westerners-christians-jews-islamic-extremism-september-11

 

Violence in Defense of Islam

40% of Indonesians approve of violence in defense of Islam.
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailweekly.asp?fileid=20060728.@03

Pew Global: 68% of Palestinian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
43% of Nigerian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
38% of Lebanese Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
15% of Egyptian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
13% of Indonesian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
12% of Jordanian Muslims say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
7% of Muslim Israelis say suicide attacks against civilians in defense of Islam are justified.
http://cnsnews.com/node/53865 (Pew Global Attitudes Project September, 2009)

Center for Social Cohesion: One Third of British Muslim students support killing for Islam
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/pdf/IslamonCampus.pdf

Policy Exchange: One third of British Muslims believe anyone who leaves Islam should be killed
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 78% of British Muslims support punishing the publishers of Muhammad cartoons;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

NOP Research: Hardcore Islamists comprise 9% of Britain's Muslim population;
Another 29% would "aggressively defend" Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

Pew Research (2010): 84% of Egyptian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
86% of Jordanian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
30% of Indonesian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
76% of Pakistanis support death the penalty for leaving Islam
51% of Nigerian Muslims support the death penalty for leaving Islam
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for religious or political ends acceptable.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Terrorism Research Institute Study: 51% of mosques in the U.S. have texts on site rated as severely advocating violence; 30% have texts rated as moderately advocating violence; and 19% have no violent texts at all.
http://www.terrorismanalysts.com/pt/index.php/pot/article/view/sharia-adherence-mosque-survey/html

Pew Research (2013): 76% of South Asian Muslims and 56% of Egyptians advocate killing anyone who leaves the Islamic religion.
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 19% of Muslim Americans believe suicide bombings in defense of Islam are at least partially justified (global average is 28% in countries surveyed).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 39% of Muslims in Malaysia say suicide bombings "justified" in defense of Islam (only 58% say 'never').
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/sideviews/article/extremism-in-the-name-of-islam-and-malaysian-muslims-joshua-woo

Die Presse (2013): 1 in 5 Muslims in Austria believe that anyone wanting to leave Islam should be killed.
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/survey-on-islam-in-austria-18-of-muslims-support-death-sentence-for-apostasy-21-9-oppose-democracy/

Motivaction Survey (2014): 80% of young Dutch Muslims see nothing wrong with Holy War against non-believers.  Most verbalized support for pro-Islamic State fighters.
http://www.dutchnews.nl/news/archives/2014/11/young-dutch-turks-radical-views-worry-mps-call-for-more-research.php/

BBC (2015): Following the Charlie Hebdo attacks, 27% of British Muslims openly support violence against cartoonists. Another 8% would not say, meaning that only 2 of 3 surveyed would say that the killings were not justified. 
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-31293196

 

Sharia (Islamic Law)

83% of Pakistanis support stoning adulterers
78% of Pakistanis support killing apostates
http://www.realcourage.org/2009/08/pakistan-78-percent-call-for-apostate-deaths/

Center for Social Cohesion: 40% of British Muslim students want Sharia
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html
http://www.socialcohesion.co.uk/pdf/IslamonCampus.pdf

ICM Poll: 40% of British Muslims want Sharia in the UK
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html

GfK NOP: 28% of British Muslims want Britain to be an Islamic state
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 68% of British Muslims support the arrest and prosecution of anyone who insults Islam;
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

MacDonald Laurier Institute: 62% of Muslims want Sharia in Canada (15% say make it mandatory)
http://www.torontosun.com/2011/11/01/strong-support-for-shariah-in-canada
http://www.macdonaldlaurier.ca/much-good-news-and-some-worrying-results-in-new-study-of-muslim-public-opinion-in-canada/

World Public Opinion: 81% of Egyptians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
76% of Pakistanis want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
49% (plurality) of Indonesians want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
76% of Moroccans want strict Sharia imposed in every Islamic country
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

World Public Opinion: 64% of Egyptians said it was “very important for the government” to “apply traditional punishments for crimes such as stoning adulterers.”
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pipa/pdf/feb09/STARTII_Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 77% of Egyptian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
58% of Jordanian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
36% of Indonesian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
82% of Pakistanis favor floggings and amputation
65% of Nigerian Muslims favor floggings and amputation
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 82% of Egyptian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
70% of Jordanian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
42% of Indonesian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
82% of Pakistanis favor stoning adulterers
56% of Nigerian Muslims favor stoning adulterers
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/muslims-around-the-world-divided-on-hamas-and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2013): 72% of Indonesians want Sharia to be law of the land
http://www.thejakartaglobe.com/news/seventy-two-percent-of-indonesians-favor-shariah-law-pew-forum/

Pew Research (2013): 81% of South Asian Muslims and 57% of Egyptians suport amputating limbs for theft.
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): According to an interpretation of this study, approximately 45% of Sharia supporters surveyed disagreed with the idea that Islamic law should apply only to Muslims.
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Economist (Pew 2013): 74% who favor Islamic law in Egypt say it should apply to non-Muslims as well.
http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2013/04/daily-chart-20?fsrc=scn/tw/te/dc/Shariadolikeit

WZB Berlin Social Science Center: 65% of Muslims in Europe say Sharia is more important than the law of the country they live in.
http://www.wzb.eu/en/research/migration-and-diversity/migration-and-integration/projects/six-country-immigrant-integration-comparat
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism

FPO (2014): 43% of Islamic teachers in Austria openly advocate Sharia law over democracy.
http://rt.com/news/208387-austria-islam-kindergarten-muslim/
 

Honor Killings

Turkish Ministry of Education: 1 in 4 Turks Support Honor Killings
http://www.realcourage.org/2009/03/turkey-war-on-women/
http://www.todayszaman.com/newsDetail_getNewsById.action?load=detay&link=170502&bolum=100

Civitas: 1 in 3 Muslims in the UK strongly agree that a wife should be forced to obey her husband's bidding
http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SURVEY/Site%20Download.pdf
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

BBC Poll: 1 in 10 British Muslims support killing a family member over "dishonor".
http://www.expressandstar.com/blogs/peter-rhodes/2011/12/28/honour-killing-%E2%80%93-a-stain-on-our-nation/

Middle East Quarterly: 91 percent of honor killings are committed by Muslims worldwide.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/43207

95% of honor killings in the West are perpetrated by Muslim fathers and brothers or their proxies.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/09/21/barbara-kay-continue-calling-honour-killings-by-its-rightful-name/

A survey of Muslim women in Paris suburbs found that three-quarters of them wear their masks out of fear - including fear of violence.
http://www.nugget.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=3402230

1 in 5 young British Muslims agree that 'honor' violence is acceptable.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2117003/More-thirds-young-British-Muslims-believe-honour-violence-acceptable-survey-reveals.html

Pew Research (2013): Large majorities of Muslims favor Sharia.  Among those who do, stoning women for adultery is favored by 89% in Pakistanis, 85% in Afghanistan, 81% in Egypt, 67% in Jordan, ~50% in 'moderate' Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand, 58% in Iraq, 44% in Tunisia, 29% in Turkey, and 26% in Russia.
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): Honor killing the woman for sex outside of marriage is favored over honor killing the man in almost every Islamic country.  Over half of Muslims surveyed believed that honor killings over sex were at least partially justified.
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

(2013) Jordanian teens support honor killing.
http://www.france24.com/en/20130620-jordan-teens-still-think-honour-killings-justified-study

 

Assimilation

Muslims have highest claimed disability rates in the UK (24% of men, 21% of women)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html

2011: 16% of UK prisoners in 2010 are Muslim (Muslims comprise about 3% of the total population)
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5j9EvY-ZaN9jm1TF2wT-EK28RTRDQ?docId=N0256451319500798601A

Pakistani Muslims in the UK are three times more likely to be unemployed than Hindus. Indian Muslims are twice as likely to be unemployed as Indian Hindus.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/daniel-greenfield/islams-universal-economic-failure/2/

Policy Exchange: 1 in 4 Muslims in the UK have never heard of the Holocaust;
Only 34% of British Muslims believe the Holocaust ever happened.
http://www.imaginate.uk.com/MCC01_SURVEY/Site%20Download.pdf
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

Policy Exchange: 51% of British Muslims believe a woman cannot marry a non-Muslim
Only 51% believe a Muslim woman may marry without a guardian's consent
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

Policy Exchange: Up to 52% of British Muslims believe a Muslim man is entitled to up to four wives
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

Policy Exchange: 61% of British Muslims want homosexuality punished
http://www.civitas.org.uk/pdf/ShariaLawOrOneLawForAll.pdf

NOP Research: 62% of British Muslims do not believe in the protection of free speech;
Only 3% adopt a "consistently pro-freedom of speech line"
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/14/opinion/main1893879.shtml&date=2011-04-06
http://www.webcitation.org/5xkMGAEvY

ICM Poll: 58% of British Muslims believe insulting Islam should result in criminal prosecution
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Pew Global (2006): Only 7% of British Muslims think of themselves as British first (81% say 'Muslim' rather than 'Briton')
http://pewglobal.org/reports/pdf/254.pdf

Policy Exchange (2006): 31% Muslims in Britain identify more with Muslims in other countries than with non-Muslim Brits.
http://www.policyexchange.org.uk/images/libimages/246.pdf

Die Welt (2012): 46% of Muslims in Germany hope there will eventually be more Muslims than Christians in Germany.
http://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article108659406/Tuerkische-Migranten-hoffen-auf-muslimische-Mehrheit.html

Ipsos MORI: Muslims are 3 times as likely as Christians to believe that their religion is the only way.
http://www.christiantoday.com/article/religion.still.matters.global.survey.finds/28257.htm

Pew Research (2011): Muslim-Americans four times more likely to say that women should not work outside the home.
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-5-political-opinions-and-social-values/

Pew Research (2007): 26% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (43% support assimilation)
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 20% of Muslim-Americans want to be distinct (56% support assimilation)
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2011): 49% of Muslim-Americans say they are "Muslim first" (26% American first)
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/muslim-americans-no-signs-of-growth-in-alienation-or-support-for-extremism/

Pew Research (2011): 21% of Muslim-Americans say there is a fair to great amount of support for Islamic extremism in their community.
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/30/section-6-terrorism-concerns-about-extremism-foreign-policy/

ICM Poll: 11% of British Muslims find violence for political ends acceptable
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Poll%20Nov%2004/Guardian%20Muslims%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005/07/more-survey-research-from-a-british-islamist

Wenzel Strategies (2012): 58% of Muslim-Americans believe criticism of Islam or Muhammad is not protected free speech under the First Amendment.
45% believe mockers of Islam should face criminal charges (38% said they should not).
12% of Muslim-Americans believe blaspheming Islam should be punishable by death.
43% of Muslim-Americans believe people of other faiths have no right to evangelize Muslims.
32% of Muslims in America believe that Sharia should be the supreme law of the land.
http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2012/10/31/sixty-percent-of-us-muslims-reject-freedom-of-expression/
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2012/10/poll-nearly-half-of-us-muslims-believe.html

Pew Research (2013): "At least half' of Muslims surveyed believed polygamy is morally acceptable.
"Muslims in most countries surveyed say that a wife should always obey her husband." (including 93% in Indonesia and 65% in Turkey).
Only 32% of Muslims in Indonesia say a woman should have the right to divorce her husband (22% in Egypt, 26% in Pakistan and 60% in Russia).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFiles/Topics/Religious_Affiliation/Muslim/worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-full-report.pdf

Die Presse (2013): 1 in 3 Muslims in Austria say it is not possible to be a European and a Muslim.  22% oppose democracy
http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/12/03/survey-on-islam-in-austria-18-of-muslims-support-death-sentence-for-apostasy-21-9-oppose-democracy/

WZB Berlin Social Science Center: 45% of Muslims in Europe say Jews cannot be trusted.
http://www.wzb.eu/en/research/migration-and-diversity/migration-and-integration/projects/six-country-immigrant-integration-comparat
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4092/europe-islamic-fundamentalism



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There are crazy people in all religions.
The only problem, unfortunately for Muslims, is that extremists like ISIS are in power.

Here is an example of a Christian who would like to see gays executed.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/christian_activist_files_ballot_measure_to_execute_all_gay_people_by_bullets_to_the_head
A Christian activist would like to see all gay people in California executed by firing squad, just so the rest of the citizenry can avoid having to endure God's "wrath." Matt McLaughlin last week paid $200 to file a ballot initiative with the Attorney General in Sacramento that proposes his Sodomite Suppression Act become law.
You do not prove the general with the exception.

A large percentage of Muslims agree with the radicals such as ISIS.  That can never be the case with Christianity.

I would contest your assertion that a large percentage of Muslims agree with ISIS. It is possible that what you see is a very vocal minority. Even in Iraq/Syria, a large percentage of the population could be silent because they are terrified of ISIS.
If we had democracies in these regions, we would get an idea of the thoughts of the majority. Unfortunately, we don't.
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Well they got their beliefs.

During the old time, homosexuality really is not accepted.

They are just making this an issue now because of the internet.
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It's also really disturbing seeing photos of men being thrown from high buildings blindfolded for being gay. And women being stoned for adultery. They really do choose the most fucked up ways of killing people.
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Translation: I'm a horrible human being. All civilizations have murdered each other and waged war against others since the dawn of humanity but that doesnt excuse it still going on. Also human life is priceless. Old rocks can always be carved again or replaced. Lives cannot. Rocks have no value other than what humans give them. They're just rocks at the end of the day.

I've made a perhaps cynical translation (simplification) but that doesn't mean that I agree. BTW your insurance company can tell you the exact price of a human life Wink.

How can a company decide the value of one's life???
It takes a lot of time to grow, and people like these just don't even think before killing anyone, they don't see that if the ones they are killing are having red blood, then their own blood is also red and God has made everyone common, so why these f*cktards discriminate, and BTW who the hell are they to do that???

Most of them I think are brainwashed by their leaders to do those acts and those strict rules that were imposed on them. At the end of the day they always think and feel that they have done a righteous action and just following the rules and commandments of their so called leaders and their god.
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There are crazy people in all religions.
The only problem, unfortunately for Muslims, is that extremists like ISIS are in power.

Here is an example of a Christian who would like to see gays executed.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/christian_activist_files_ballot_measure_to_execute_all_gay_people_by_bullets_to_the_head
A Christian activist would like to see all gay people in California executed by firing squad, just so the rest of the citizenry can avoid having to endure God's "wrath." Matt McLaughlin last week paid $200 to file a ballot initiative with the Attorney General in Sacramento that proposes his Sodomite Suppression Act become law.
You do not prove the general with the exception.

A large percentage of Muslims agree with the radicals such as ISIS.  That can never be the case with Christianity.
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It wasn't good enough for you that they just killed people?

Don't discriminate, it doesn't matter who they killed. The killing is the worst part of it all.

That's the problem with a lot of people, they're more obsessed over who the person was that got killed rather than the actual killing itself.
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i am surprised that anyone is shocked.  barbarians over there.  just nuke em already

I don't know if killing more people will resolve anything. That's what helped created the situation in the first place.
Maybe helping improve the lives of people there and stop funding radicals is better. ISIS won't disappear quickly but the situation won't get worse : /
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It wasn't good enough for you that they just killed people?

Don't discriminate, it doesn't matter who they killed. The killing is the worst part of it all.
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Um this isn't new. They've killed lots of alledged homosexuals. They frequently seem to be throwing them off buildings. What I wonder is how do they even know they're homosexuals? Probably just like a witch hunt I bet.
This is a default position for the Islamic state, I'm more concerned about artifact destruction, and women issues
Not to say that this is not bad, just saying that with ISIS homosexual killing does not seem like such a strange thing considering what they represent, and their hatred of Western Culture that tolerates and accepts this.

As for how they know well assuming they caught them in the act, if not its a witch hunt against people they don't like or go against them.

How can you say you're more concerned about artifact destruction or womens issues? Both are important but not more than a hunman life, especially the artifacts. You cannot compare killing homosexuals to destroying bits of fancy rock (as outrageous or  immoral as it may be).

Well human historical history has a significant weight on our culture and in understanding what happened in the past it's value is debatable to a human life but the sheer amount of impact it can have on many lives puts it at number 1, women's issues well besides all the rape and murder going on over there and the chattel labor they die a slow death seems like a blessing in disguise to be killed immediately the inverse is tragic human suffering, with a miracle occurring in redemption.

It depends on where you put your general value at, for me the Homosexual killing is on a lower totem than the other two areas, but is still important after all its not nice to kill people, also ISIS is doing a lot of crazy things Homosexual murder is one that is consistent with their agenda, artifact destruction of other religions due to intolerance of false gods, and marital rape do fit in with their ideology but not as strongly as the former.

You can put it up as a value judgement which is more valuable ancient historical artifacts that can now never be appreciated by future generations but have been treasured and cultured for millennia by people all over the world and perhaps changed many individual lives for the better in countless ways, the suffering of people who are treated as slaves and are still living, or dead homosexuals or accused homosexuals in the country.

Tough call but I totem them up that way, some people will never decide or consider taking an action towards any of them.

Artifacts- Huge weight influences many people across generations when destroyed so are the positive externalities
Woman Issues - Long duration, suffering impacts many people, issue continues
Homo death - Death impact on a few individuals, society continues as it were until their is a change in the above two, either through a strong cultural and societal shift, or the living impacting the future.

So on a value of human life scale, one that impacts many lives versus one that impacts a few lives is the judgement weight.
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i am surprised that anyone is shocked.  barbarians over there.  just nuke em already
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How can a company decide the value of one's life???
No idea. They have some sort of charts for that. So probably a computer told them that value Smiley.

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It takes a lot of time to grow, and people like these just don't even think before killing anyone, they don't see that if the ones they are killing are having red blood, then their own blood is also red and God has made everyone common, so why these f*cktards discriminate, and BTW who the hell are they to do that???

I someone goes to kill shouldn't think about such stuff. That would draw attention from the main goal.
Do you think a pilot or an artillery man thinking about such things while delivering an 500 lbs piece of democracy?

"who the hell are they to do that"
They are in power and in charge. That gives them the "right" to do so. (Until someone stronger kicks their asses.)
BTW we are very much got used to the more civilised western approach about life, but many of those guys are not. If someone grown up in a society where getting killed by Saddam's or Assad's henchman or by the americans, perhaps by your own neighbours if put your dick to the wrong place was part of life then that person will have a very different opinion about the value of life.  

True, everyone have their own values set and everyone sees life differently, they might have their upbringing in the way what they are showing with their deeds to the world now.
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How can a company decide the value of one's life???
No idea. They have some sort of charts for that. So probably a computer told them that value Smiley.

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It takes a lot of time to grow, and people like these just don't even think before killing anyone, they don't see that if the ones they are killing are having red blood, then their own blood is also red and God has made everyone common, so why these f*cktards discriminate, and BTW who the hell are they to do that???

I someone goes to kill shouldn't think about such stuff. That would draw attention from the main goal.
Do you think a pilot or an artillery man thinking about such things while delivering an 500 lbs piece of democracy?

"who the hell are they to do that"
They are in power and in charge. That gives them the "right" to do so. (Until someone stronger kicks their asses.)
BTW we are very much got used to the more civilised western approach about life, but many of those guys are not. If someone grown up in a society where getting killed by Saddam's or Assad's henchman or by the americans, perhaps by your own neighbours if put your dick to the wrong place was part of life then that person will have a very different opinion about the value of life.  
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There are crazy people in all religions.
The only problem, unfortunately for Muslims, is that extremists like ISIS are in power.

Here is an example of a Christian who would like to see gays executed.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/christian_activist_files_ballot_measure_to_execute_all_gay_people_by_bullets_to_the_head
A Christian activist would like to see all gay people in California executed by firing squad, just so the rest of the citizenry can avoid having to endure God's "wrath." Matt McLaughlin last week paid $200 to file a ballot initiative with the Attorney General in Sacramento that proposes his Sodomite Suppression Act become law.
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@OP,
If you think that it's their limit, you are wrong.

Just check this, a 10 year old boy 'shooting Mossad spy dead':

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2988352/Islamic-State-s-propaganda-arm-announces-broadcast-execution-Israeli-spy-captured-Syria-year.html
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Translation: I'm a horrible human being. All civilizations have murdered each other and waged war against others since the dawn of humanity but that doesnt excuse it still going on. Also human life is priceless. Old rocks can always be carved again or replaced. Lives cannot. Rocks have no value other than what humans give them. They're just rocks at the end of the day.

I've made a perhaps cynical translation (simplification) but that doesn't mean that I agree. BTW your insurance company can tell you the exact price of a human life Wink.

How can a company decide the value of one's life???
It takes a lot of time to grow, and people like these just don't even think before killing anyone, they don't see that if the ones they are killing are having red blood, then their own blood is also red and God has made everyone common, so why these f*cktards discriminate, and BTW who the hell are they to do that???
legendary
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Translation: I'm a horrible human being. All civilizations have murdered each other and waged war against others since the dawn of humanity but that doesnt excuse it still going on. Also human life is priceless. Old rocks can always be carved again or replaced. Lives cannot. Rocks have no value other than what humans give them. They're just rocks at the end of the day.

I've made a perhaps cynical translation (simplification) but that doesn't mean that I agree. BTW your insurance company can tell you the exact price of a human life Wink.
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How can you say you're more concerned about artifact destruction or womens issues? Both are important but not more than a hunman life, especially the artifacts. You cannot compare killing homosexuals to destroying bits of fancy rock (as outrageous or  immoral as it may be).

OK, then I'll try to translate for you: Human life is used to be quite cheap stuff over there, and those locals (when they are not being massacred by 3rd parties like mongols, americans, etc) used to massacre each other since the dawn of human history, but there are still plenty of them.
However those fancy rocks are unique non reproducible priceless things.

Translation: I'm a horrible human being. All civilizations have murdered each other and waged war against others since the dawn of humanity but that doesnt excuse it still going on. Also human life is priceless. Old rocks can always be carved again or replaced. Lives cannot. Rocks have no value other than what humans give them. They're just rocks at the end of the day.
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I don't know which one of these is worse. Radical Islam or Evangelical Christianity? Both these groups want to destroy the human civilization and send the people back to the stone age.
If you can't figure that out, you need to re examine your premises.
legendary
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How can you say you're more concerned about artifact destruction or womens issues? Both are important but not more than a hunman life, especially the artifacts. You cannot compare killing homosexuals to destroying bits of fancy rock (as outrageous or  immoral as it may be).

OK, then I'll try to translate for you: Human life is used to be quite cheap stuff over there, and those locals (when they are not being massacred by 3rd parties like mongols, americans, etc) used to massacre each other since the dawn of human history, but there are still plenty of them.
However those fancy rocks are unique non reproducible priceless things.
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Um this isn't new. They've killed lots of alledged homosexuals. They frequently seem to be throwing them off buildings. What I wonder is how do they even know they're homosexuals? Probably just like a witch hunt I bet.
This is a default position for the Islamic state, I'm more concerned about artifact destruction, and women issues
Not to say that this is not bad, just saying that with ISIS homosexual killing does not seem like such a strange thing considering what they represent, and their hatred of Western Culture that tolerates and accepts this.

As for how they know well assuming they caught them in the act, if not its a witch hunt against people they don't like or go against them.

How can you say you're more concerned about artifact destruction or womens issues? Both are important but not more than a hunman life, especially the artifacts. You cannot compare killing homosexuals to destroying bits of fancy rock (as outrageous or  immoral as it may be).
legendary
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I read somewhere it was 4 men for homosexuality.

In some very Christian African countries homosexuality also carries death penalty, thanks to US American preachers...

I don't know which one of these is worse. Radical Islam or Evangelical Christianity? Both these groups want to destroy the human civilization and send the people back to the stone age.

That depends. If you are from the Christian stock then radical islam is worse, as their extremist are surely far worse than our extremists Smiley. Actually probably this is true as unlike these islamist guys, most evangelical christian preachers not going cut off people's head in the middle of Dallas for being gay.
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I read somewhere it was 4 men for homosexuality.

In some very Christian African countries homosexuality also carries death penalty, thanks to US American preachers...

I don't know which one of these is worse. Radical Islam or Evangelical Christianity? Both these groups want to destroy the human civilization and send the people back to the stone age.
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Um this isn't new. They've killed lots of alledged homosexuals. They frequently seem to be throwing them off buildings. What I wonder is how do they even know they're homosexuals? Probably just like a witch hunt I bet.
This is a default position for the Islamic state, I'm more concerned about artifact destruction, and women issues
Not to say that this is not bad, just saying that with ISIS homosexual killing does not seem like such a strange thing considering what they represent, and their hatred of Western Culture that tolerates and accepts this.

As for how they know well assuming they caught them in the act, if not its a witch hunt against people they don't like or go against them.
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I read somewhere it was 4 men for homosexuality.

In some very Christian African countries homosexuality also carries death penalty, thanks to US American preachers...



Iraq: Crowd Cheers As ISIS Publicly Beheads Two Men For Being Gay, Another For Blasphemy…










Chilling new images have emerged of three men accused of homosexuality and blasphemy being forced to their knees and publicly beheaded by a sword-wielding Islamic State executioner.

Photographs of the barbaric murders show the blindfolded men kneeling in the centre of what appears to be a traffic roundabout with a crowd of people looking on as a masked executioner stands by with a long, rusty blade.

After an elderly man uses a microphone to read to the crowd from his notes, the executioner then steps forward with the blade poised above the men’s heads in the unnamed city in northern Iraq.

Accompanying captions said the trio were then beheaded – two for engaging in homosexual acts and the third for alleged blasphemy – but there were no images released of the actual beheading.

The jihadist group, which controls swathes of Iraq and neighbouring Syria, has carried out hundreds of barbaric executions as it has imposed its brutal version of Islamic law, many of which are photographed or videotaped.[…]

Many young men have also been thrown from the roofs of buildings throughout ISIS-controlled areas after being accused of engaging in homosexual acts.[…]

The man, named only as Saleh, said the masked militant who appears in several beheading videos was a senior figure in the extremist organisation responsible for murdering foreign captives.

Jihadi John, who was recently unmasked as 26-year-old Londoner Mohammed Emwazi, was last seen in a video posted online which appeared to show Japanese hostage Kenji Goto lying dead.

Saleh, who worked as a translator, also revealed that ISIS routinely subjected hostages to mock executions so that when their beheading did finally come they were not expecting to die, according to Sky News.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2987901/Photos-claim-IS-beheadings-homosexuals-northern-Iraq.html#ixzz3TzsJ8WVc


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Gays (europe, usa, etc) do not care about those people. Too bad they weren't christian bakers...


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I read somewhere it was 4 men for homosexuality.

In some very Christian African countries homosexuality also carries death penalty, thanks to US American preachers...
legendary
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I hate all religion because they create room for people like this but I'm not so blinded that I'll automatically attack every Muslim out there for this shit, I'm in the UK and I've grown up in a Muslim populated area so I know they're not all bad. The problem is there are a lot of vocal assholes amongst them so like with anything it is easy to hate them with that many people out in force in favour of this shit, but then again, a lot of Christians are against gay marriage and are actively trying to block it in the U.S and have been for decades.

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BTW the very atheist commies committed some even more serious stuff in mere 70 years than most religions altogether in the last 1000 years.
Opposing gay marriage and killing gays are not the same weight-class...
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Communists make the state the religion so they aren't really athiests, but to their credit, at least that's something which is actually real.
legendary
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They may actually enjoy it. I would instead send them to a farm for cattle insemination... Them being the cows...

What about using them as animal feed in a pig farm... ?
legendary
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I hate all religion because they create room for people like this but I'm not so blinded that I'll automatically attack every Muslim out there for this shit, I'm in the UK and I've grown up in a Muslim populated area so I know they're not all bad. The problem is there are a lot of vocal assholes amongst them so like with anything it is easy to hate them with that many people out in force in favour of this shit, but then again, a lot of Christians are against gay marriage and are actively trying to block it in the U.S and have been for decades.

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BTW the very atheist commies committed some even more serious stuff in mere 70 years than most religions altogether in the last 1000 years.
Opposing gay marriage and killing gays are not the same weight-class...
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Where have you been all this time? Old news. The pink mafia does not care anyway...

Their "actions" might seem to be old, but not the news, it was posted today...
What I'd do with these guys is send them to prison.  I have an idea how they'd get treated, something like the way pedophiles get treated in there...


They may actually enjoy it. I would instead send them to a farm for cattle insemination... Them being the cows...


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Where have you been all this time? Old news. The pink mafia does not care anyway...

Their "actions" might seem to be old, but not the news, it was posted today...
What I'd do with these guys is send them to prison.  I have an idea how they'd get treated, something like the way pedophiles get treated in there...
legendary
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Where have you been all this time? Old news. The pink mafia does not care anyway...

Their "actions" might seem to be old, but not the news, it was posted today...



Every single organisation on earth defending the rights of gays does not care about your news, today or in the past.

That is why you may have heard of a christian baker being sued for refusing to make a wedding cake for lesbians, but nothing on social media regarding your news and all of those gay people who died in the past months and months, killed by isis...

The pink mafia does not care. Just google isis gay killed.... Then be sadly amazed.


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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
Where have you been all this time? Old news. The pink mafia does not care anyway...

Their "actions" might seem to be old, but not the news, it was posted today...
legendary
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Islamic State militants said on Tuesday they had killed two men in northern Iraq for homosexuality and another for blasphemy. The group controls a large, self-declared caliphate in parts of Iraq and neighbouring Syria, where it enforces an ultra-purist vision of Islam that condemns all but the narrowest interpretation of centuries-old Sunni Muslim law as deviance.

This is the limit...

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-islamic-state-says-it-has-killed-two-men-for-homosexuality-2067769



Where have you been all this time? Old news. The pink mafia does not care anyway...

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Nah, this is where I disagree, religious doctrine encourages bad people, gives them excuses and corrupts otherwise good people, I hate religion, the systems, but I know human beings are complicated so I just seek to end these systems of government rather than the people, that's the only way to start a true revolution anyway.

Yes, you are right in your statement, what needs to be destroyed is the enviousness, the enmity amongst people and not the people themselves...
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Nah, this is where I disagree, religious doctrine encourages bad people, gives them excuses and corrupts otherwise good people, I hate religion, the systems, but I know human beings are complicated so I just seek to end these systems of government rather than the people, that's the only way to start a true revolution anyway.
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The revolution will be monetized!
Being anti-Gay is super gay, IMO.

It's weird and, well... gay to spend your time and effort focusing on "who is gay" and "what are gay people doing". Why is this such a thing with religious people? Can't get it out of your mind? Want to punish someone else for living the life they want, while you have to repress your own feelings?
legendary
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I hate all religion because they create room for people like this but I'm not so blinded that I'll automatically attack every Muslim out there for this shit, I'm in the UK and I've grown up in a Muslim populated area so I know they're not all bad. The problem is there are a lot of vocal assholes amongst them so like with anything it is easy to hate them with that many people out in force in favour of this shit, but then again, a lot of Christians are against gay marriage and are actively trying to block it in the U.S and have been for decades.

I don't hate Muslims, nor any religions, I respect them all but I don't believe in any...
And yes, "One Bad Fish Spoils the Whole Pond" is what applicable here...
legendary
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Exactly, for stuff like this there is no real evidence it's just mob rule, more likely these are people that resist them or trying to stop them, or simply just pissed them off so they decide to get some of their friends together and make a show of it for their propaganda, religious dictatorships are no different from secular ones, they just use different excuses for killing their own people, in this case, god is their excuse.

Very true said, I feel these Islamic people should not use the word "Jehad" for such deeds that they do, while they actually don't understand what's the meaning behind...

P.S.: I am not a Muslim, this is my personal view for such kind of people...

I hate all religion because they create room for people like this but I'm not so blinded that I'll automatically attack every Muslim out there for this shit, I'm in the UK and I've grown up in a Muslim populated area so I know they're not all bad. The problem is there are a lot of vocal assholes amongst them so like with anything it is easy to hate them with that many people out in force in favour of this shit, but then again, a lot of Christians are against gay marriage and are actively trying to block it in the U.S and have been for decades.
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It's terrible but no more terrible than all the other shit they do. ISIS will get wiped out eventually so they'll get their deathwish but sadly at the expense of more costly wars so all they're doing is just giving the west another excuse to invade them again  but that's probably what they want.
legendary
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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
Exactly, for stuff like this there is no real evidence it's just mob rule, more likely these are people that resist them or trying to stop them, or simply just pissed them off so they decide to get some of their friends together and make a show of it for their propaganda, religious dictatorships are no different from secular ones, they just use different excuses for killing their own people, in this case, god is their excuse.

Very true said, I feel these Islamic people should not use the word "Jehad" for such deeds that they do, while they actually don't understand what's the meaning behind...

P.S.: I am not a Muslim, this is my personal view for such kind of people...
legendary
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Exactly, for stuff like this there is no real evidence it's just mob rule, more likely these are people that resist them or trying to stop them, or simply just pissed them off so they decide to get some of their friends together and make a show of it for their propaganda, religious dictatorships are no different from secular ones, they just use different excuses for killing their own people, in this case, god is their excuse.
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Um this isn't new. They've killed lots of alledged homosexuals. They frequently seem to be throwing them off buildings. What I wonder is how do they even know they're homosexuals? Probably just like a witch hunt I bet.
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Islamic State militants said on Tuesday they had killed two men in northern Iraq for homosexuality and another for blasphemy. The group controls a large, self-declared caliphate in parts of Iraq and neighbouring Syria, where it enforces an ultra-purist vision of Islam that condemns all but the narrowest interpretation of centuries-old Sunni Muslim law as deviance.

This is the limit...

http://www.dnaindia.com/world/report-islamic-state-says-it-has-killed-two-men-for-homosexuality-2067769
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