Topic: Israil Madrimov vs Terrence Crawford (Read 901 times)

Quote from: Kemarit on June 07, 2024, 06:41:17 AM

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

Possible, that could be his next aim, and make another record if he can unify at 154 lbs as he had done it at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. So in this era, he could be one of the best fighter that we have seen, he has cemented his legacy with that big win against Spence.

But if he really want to put all arguments are rest, yeah, unifying again will be great for him. It could be very challenging though as there are a lot of good boxers in this division with his arch nemesis, Errol Spence, and then Tim Tzsyu and Fundora.

If Terrence is going to do that he should do that in a short period as time is not on his side anymore he is already 36 years old he cannot do what he has done in the past fighting only once a year he should stop fighting low level or tune fight and go straight fighting titlist so he can accomplish his goal to become one of the all-time great.

I'm sure he is looking for a Canelo fight, I hope Canelo also has Crawford in his mind, it's hard for these two greats to not face in the ring because they have a claim for the greatest boxer of this era.
Crawford never declined any challenge, we can't say the same with Canelo who is just cherry-picking his opponents before heading for retirement.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 06, 2024, 05:55:01 AM

Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

Possible, that could be his next aim, and make another record if he can unify at 154 lbs as he had done it at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. So in this era, he could be one of the best fighter that we have seen, he has cemented his legacy with that big win against Spence.

But if he really want to put all arguments are rest, yeah, unifying again will be great for him. It could be very challenging though as there are a lot of good boxers in this division with his arch nemesis, Errol Spence, and then Tim Tzsyu and Fundora.

He already beat Spence, so he has a higher chance of beating him again.

The thing is, if Spence beats Fundora, that would be like beating Tszyu as well. Among the champions, Spence would then be ranked number one. For now, we just need to see if Spence can become a champion again, so they can prepare for a possible rematch in a unification match. This would still be a big fight, as it's a championship fight like the last time they met.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 06, 2024, 05:55:01 AM

Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

Possible, that could be his next aim, and make another record if he can unify at 154 lbs as he had done it at 140 lbs and 147 lbs. So in this era, he could be one of the best fighter that we have seen, he has cemented his legacy with that big win against Spence.

But if he really want to put all arguments are rest, yeah, unifying again will be great for him. It could be very challenging though as there are a lot of good boxers in this division with his arch nemesis, Errol Spence, and then Tim Tzsyu and Fundora.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 06, 2024, 05:55:01 AM

Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

Crawford has proven a lot already and deserved to be the favorite. But maybe 5:1 is just too high, probably because of the money flowing from Crawford and since Madrimov is not that popular. But I am expecting a good fight somehow. This is a good fight for Crawford, a chance to become a 4 division world champion.

Error Spence is rumored to fight WBC/WBO champion Sebastian Fundora. It's easier to make since both are under the PBC umbrella. But upon the withdrawal of Tszyu against Ortiz, he might activate his rematch clause with Fundora. I think Tim will knockout Fundora this time and take back his belt and the WBC.

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Quote from: btc_angela on June 06, 2024, 05:55:01 AM

Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

I share the same sentiment. Crawford is just too flashy and dominant, and I can only see him controlling the fight. If Terence becomes a champion in this division, he might aim to unify the titles again. Hopefully, if Spence also becomes a champion, they can have a rematch here. I'm sure promoters would be eager to stage another fight between them, as they already have a rivalry that can easily attract fans. We might even call it "unfinished business," even though Crawford clearly dominated Spence in their previous bout. But in a new division, we might see a different result.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on June 06, 2024, 02:29:05 AM

Now that Deontay Wilder lost against Zhang, he is not fighting in this card against hot undefeated prospect Jared Anderson. There were earlier rumors that Zhang is the one that will replace but Martin Bakole is offically the guy that will fight Anderson. This is another great showdown, between two heavyweight prospects and there's a lot of opportunity for the winner.

As for Vergil Ortiz, it seems like he is out of the card. Maybe they're having a hard time finding for Tszyu's replacement. Earlier, Ryan Garcia volunteered and Ortiz was happy to face him. But maybe it was only a bluff by Ryan Garcia to tell his huge fanbase that he is not scared to fight anybody at any weight.

But in any case, Ryan Garcia has a pending case because of his supposedly used of Ostarine, so I doubt that he can just get a fight right now until the decision is handled to him (most likely suspension, for how long, we don't know as of this time).

Odds for this fight though hasn't move a bit, Madrimov is still a huge underdog at 5:1. I think the odds is about right, although he had a good record, but I don't see him getting a upset here against Crawford. And we might see Terence becoming a world champion again, this time at 154 lbs.

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Now that Deontay Wilder lost against Zhang, he is not fighting in this card against hot undefeated prospect Jared Anderson. There were earlier rumors that Zhang is the one that will replace but Martin Bakole is offically the guy that will fight Anderson. This is another great showdown, between two heavyweight prospects and there's a lot of opportunity for the winner.

As for Vergil Ortiz, it seems like he is out of the card. Maybe they're having a hard time finding for Tszyu's replacement. Earlier, Ryan Garcia volunteered and Ortiz was happy to face him. But maybe it was only a bluff by Ryan Garcia to tell his huge fanbase that he is not scared to fight anybody at any weight.

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Former champion Tim Tszyu has backed out of his fight against the undefeated Vergil Ortiz. The reason for Tszyu's cancellation is due to his doctors' disapproval that his cut won't be fully healed by the time of the fight.

It is somewhat sad because this fight is expected to be an all-out war. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise for both warriors. Their fight clearly deserved a title. So somewhat I am happy of the cancellation. Still hats off to them for willing to fight even without a belt on the line.

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Too bad although I was surprised though that he will have a fight with Vergil when he just go to a bloody and messy fight with Fundora and he should have at least a medical suspension for that. And I'm not sure about Vergil Ortiz though, it seems that his career can't really take off with injuries and health issues and fight cancellation, maybe he was jinx or something.

Same here, I think he will have to rest a bit since he just lost to Fundora two months ago. The doctor is right, he needs to follow the order if he still love his career. Doctors are expert on this, they know their job so they will not make a recommendation or disapprove someone to fight without proper examination. Tim Tszyu is really a warrior, he proved that by coming back right away after a loss.

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Anyhow, hopefully they can find a replacement ASAP for Vergil because if I'm not mistaken, this is his debut at 154 lbs and still some time for him to at least become a world champion.

now we are talking about replacement, actually, Sebastian Fundora was just a replacement and yet he beat Tim Tszyu, so Vergil Ortiz Jr could possibly loss in this championship fight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 31, 2024, 04:01:14 AM

Former champion Tim Tszyu has backed out of his fight against the undefeated Vergil Ortiz. The reason for Tszyu's cancellation is due to his doctors' disapproval that his cut won't be fully healed by the time of the fight.

It is somewhat sad because this fight is expected to be an all-out war. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise for both warriors. Their fight clearly deserved a title. So somewhat I am happy of the cancellation. Still hats off to them for willing to fight even without a belt on the line.

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This was the fight I was most looking to on this card. It was the most evenly matched fight. Outside of this it is mostly showcase fights for the A-side fighters like Crawford and Pitbull Cruz. It is possible that Serhii Bohachuk will step in and fight Vergil Ortiz. Bohachuk will still be a good test for Ortiz.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 31, 2024, 04:01:14 AM

Former champion Tim Tszyu has backed out of his fight against the undefeated Vergil Ortiz. The reason for Tszyu's cancellation is due to his doctors' disapproval that his cut won't be fully healed by the time of the fight.

It is somewhat sad because this fight is expected to be an all-out war. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise for both warriors. Their fight clearly deserved a title. So somewhat I am happy of the cancellation. Still hats off to them for willing to fight even without a belt on the line.

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Too bad although I was surprised though that he will have a fight with Vergil when he just go to a bloody and messy fight with Fundora and he should have at least a medical suspension for that. And I'm not sure about Vergil Ortiz though, it seems that his career can't really take off with injuries and health issues and fight cancellation, maybe he was jinx or something.

Anyhow, hopefully they can find a replacement ASAP for Vergil because if I'm not mistaken, this is his debut at 154 lbs and still some time for him to at least become a world champion.

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Former champion Tim Tszyu has backed out of his fight against the undefeated Vergil Ortiz. The reason for Tszyu's cancellation is due to his doctors' disapproval that his cut won't be fully healed by the time of the fight.

It is somewhat sad because this fight is expected to be an all-out war. But maybe this is a blessing in disguise for both warriors. Their fight clearly deserved a title. So somewhat I am happy of the cancellation. Still hats off to them for willing to fight even without a belt on the line.

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And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

If Madrimov cannot take Crawford's power shots then he is done. But we'll see. Madrimov is young, undefeated and probably bigger so it's a good test for Bud who's fighting at 154 for the first time. Crawford though has too much experience here except that he is turning 37 this year.

Yes it will be Bud's first time at 154 lbs, but I don't think it will be an issue for him. Perhaps during the fight with Spence he could be very well above 154 lbs during fight night well rehydrated.

Pretty sure Crawford rehydrated to around 160 lbs or more during the Spence fight. But he's most likely smaller in this new division because 154 fighters could reach 170 by fight night. Crawford has the skills and power but giving up too much weight during fight nights is too risky as well.

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At the moment, all the current champions at 154 are yet to defend their belts. I considered ex WBO champ, Tszyu as the best but sadly he suffered a huge cut from an elbow and it cost his belt. So I think all the current champions are at 50/50 against each other.

It was really a huge upset when Fundora won a ugly fight with Tszyu. Maybe they will take a rematch and winner fighting the winner of Crawford vs Madrimov. That will be great for Crawford's legacy as he will get more belts at 154 lbs. But he will be looking for money fight I guess as he is not also getting any younger.

I felt bad for Tim. He was busting Fundora's face in the early rounds. I cannot even remember if Fundora won single round before his elbow opened a huge cut on Tim's head.

There's supposed to be an issue aftermath who's fighting Fundora next since Tim wanted to activate the rematch clause while the WBO announced Crawford as their mandatory. But all of a sudden Saudi's Alalshikh turned things differently. Bud all of a sudden will fight WBA champion, Madrimov while in the undercard Tim will fight GBP's undefeated prospect Vergil Ortiz.

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And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

The endgame for Crawford seems to be getting a big money fight against Canelo. Becoming undisputed at 154 would be great and all, but the names in the division aren’t really all that attractive. The Fundora vs. Tszyu PPV only got around 20,000 buys, according to Rick Glaser, who is not very reliable but I can’t imagine the actual numbers being any better.

If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

And when there is money, for sure Canelo will say yes to it. Although as this point he said that he doesn't want to fight Crawford and then the Saudi's are somewhat on the fence with Canelo as we can see, the Saudi broker is more on Beterbiev and Bivol and other fighters.

But in the side of Crawford, yeah, he is looking for big money fights, he has tasted it already with his win against Spence and obviously his biggest paycheck after he bolted out of Top Rank. Although fighting Madrimov is just for the title, but who knows, Charlo or Fundora could be interesting for fight fans to watch.

At this point I think money is not the most important for Canelo as he can easily find an opponent that will ensure him big paycheck. However, based on my observation, he hasn't been fighting big names lately and as we can see, most of his recent wins are easy win. If he'll fight Crawford, that sure will bring a lot of money, but who would go down or go up? That's another thing as none of these two would fight not getting the advantage to win.

I think otherwise though, yeah he could still fight, but we really don't know for how long, and that's why he is looking for opponents that will make him big money. And that's why he is fighting less name, the risk is low but he will get the lion share obviously, it would be as high as 80/20 split in his favor and then PPV and live gates.

That's why he is being criticized for not fighting Benavidez as the risk is very high for him and his team. And chooses the likes of Munguia and Berlanga next.

If ever they will fight, Crawford will have to go up or 168 lbs, no way that Canelo will risk to go down to even a catch weight.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 16, 2024, 05:26:33 AM

And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

If Madrimov cannot take Crawford's power shots then he is done. But we'll see. Madrimov is young, undefeated and probably bigger so it's a good test for Bud who's fighting at 154 for the first time. Crawford though has too much experience here except that he is turning 37 this year.

Yes it will be Bud's first time at 154 lbs, but I don't think it will be an issue for him. Perhaps during the fight with Spence he could be very well above 154 lbs during fight night well rehydrated.

At the moment, all the current champions at 154 are yet to defend their belts. I considered ex WBO champ, Tszyu as the best but sadly he suffered a huge cut from an elbow and it cost his belt. So I think all the current champions are at 50/50 against each other.

It was really a huge upset when Fundora won a ugly fight with Tszyu. Maybe they will take a rematch and winner fighting the winner of Crawford vs Madrimov. That will be great for Crawford's legacy as he will get more belts at 154 lbs. But he will be looking for money fight I guess as he is not also getting any younger.

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And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

If Madrimov cannot take Crawford's power shots then he is done. But we'll see. Madrimov is young, undefeated and probably bigger so it's a good test for Bud who's fighting at 154 for the first time. Crawford though has too much experience here except that he is turning 37 this year.

At the moment, all the current champions at 154 are yet to defend their belts. I considered ex WBO champ, Tszyu as the best but sadly he suffered a huge cut from an elbow and it cost his belt. So I think all the current champions are at 50/50 against each other.

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If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

Yes, this could be the fight that Crawford wants before hanging his gloves for good. He is not getting younger anymore and this kind of opportunity is hard to pass up so we might see Canelo vs Crawford in Saudi with his excellency promoting this matchup.

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And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

The endgame for Crawford seems to be getting a big money fight against Canelo. Becoming undisputed at 154 would be great and all, but the names in the division aren’t really all that attractive. The Fundora vs. Tszyu PPV only got around 20,000 buys, according to Rick Glaser, who is not very reliable but I can’t imagine the actual numbers being any better.

If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

And when there is money, for sure Canelo will say yes to it. Although as this point he said that he doesn't want to fight Crawford and then the Saudi's are somewhat on the fence with Canelo as we can see, the Saudi broker is more on Beterbiev and Bivol and other fighters.

But in the side of Crawford, yeah, he is looking for big money fights, he has tasted it already with his win against Spence and obviously his biggest paycheck after he bolted out of Top Rank. Although fighting Madrimov is just for the title, but who knows, Charlo or Fundora could be interesting for fight fans to watch.

At this point I think money is not the most important for Canelo as he can easily find an opponent that will ensure him big paycheck. However, based on my observation, he hasn't been fighting big names lately and as we can see, most of his recent wins are easy win. If he'll fight Crawford, that sure will bring a lot of money, but who would go down or go up? That's another thing as none of these two would fight not getting the advantage to win.

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And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

The endgame for Crawford seems to be getting a big money fight against Canelo. Becoming undisputed at 154 would be great and all, but the names in the division aren’t really all that attractive. The Fundora vs. Tszyu PPV only got around 20,000 buys, according to Rick Glaser, who is not very reliable but I can’t imagine the actual numbers being any better.

If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

And when there is money, for sure Canelo will say yes to it. Although as this point he said that he doesn't want to fight Crawford and then the Saudi's are somewhat on the fence with Canelo as we can see, the Saudi broker is more on Beterbiev and Bivol and other fighters.

But in the side of Crawford, yeah, he is looking for big money fights, he has tasted it already with his win against Spence and obviously his biggest paycheck after he bolted out of Top Rank. Although fighting Madrimov is just for the title, but who knows, Charlo or Fundora could be interesting for fight fans to watch.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 08, 2024, 02:55:49 AM

And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

The endgame for Crawford seems to be getting a big money fight against Canelo. Becoming undisputed at 154 would be great and all, but the names in the division aren’t really all that attractive. The Fundora vs. Tszyu PPV only got around 20,000 buys, according to Rick Glaser, who is not very reliable but I can’t imagine the actual numbers being any better.

If the Saudis are bankrolling his career, they will want to make the biggest fights possible, and at the moment that would be Crawford vs. Canelo.

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Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Charlo will be a big fight for Crawford, I mean he has been taunting them in the crowds during his win against Spence. And now that Spence is out of Derrick James maybe we can also see him moving up at 154 lbs and fight the Charlo as well. So there is a big changes in the landscape at super welterweight now as we can see previous friends fighting for the belt as well. So we will see. As far as this fight, yes, he will go against Madrimov, try to test his power and do some feint to test how he will move. But after that, Crawford will go in his beast mode and I wouldn't be surprised to see a knockout win by him again against a tough Madrimov by the middle or late rounds.

I am excited in this fight. We will see how WBA champion Madrimov fares against one of the best in the sport right now. Crawford is once again trying to add more in his legacy by becoming a 4 division champion if he wins here.

And it will be interesting on how Crawford picks Madrimov as weakest champion of this division if I'm not mistaken.

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We'll see what's next for Crawford after this. At the moment, both Spence and Jermell have no belts and won't add anything on Crawford's legacy except money. The winner of Madrimov and Crawford will also get the WBO interim which can be turned into a mandatory to WBO and WBC champion Sebastian Fundora. Also, Turki Al-Sheikh of Saudi already hinted of wanting to make Crawford vs Canelo by December or January next year in the US.

There are two things that I'm seeing here:

1. Crawford unifying all the belts at 154 lbs and again setting another boxing record for unifying 3 weight classes
2. Doesn't care about the belts anymore, and then just go for money fights as we all know that he is not getting any younger as well.

So we will see what his best move after winning and becoming 4 weight class champion.

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It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.

Madrimov isn't an opponent that Terrence will have to underestimate, his demeanor and fighting style in my opinion looks like the kind that deceives you into thinking that you're going to beat it, plus his power seems to be much more than Terrence so I'm still on the neutral when it comes to this one, seems to me that this is going to be big fight though, really good line ups to the main event, I'm excited for the Latin fighters because it seems to me that there's going to be resurgence of more Latin fighters after all these years.

exactly Madrimov is silent type that can explode inside the ring but if we will look into the
votes it is al for Crawford so this will hurt many if happen that madrimov wins in this fight Grin

so being neutral will save us , but if you are to bet ? whom are you betting in this fight mate?

Quote from: darkangel11 on May 04, 2024, 02:03:28 PM

Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

yet , One punch can bring the opponent down so best for Crawford to never look behind
because this can change in a single punch.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 04, 2024, 02:03:28 PM

Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Yes, if we have look at the previous fights of Madrimov, he is more of a powerful puncher and I think Crawford had deal a lot of this type of boxers in his career and he was able to adjust in the middle of the fight to even win by knockout himself.

I read some interview of him that when he was caught by Spence with that right hand, and he said in the line like "is that it", meaning he was able to take the best punch of Spence and he was not affected or even get wobbled by it. What I'm trying to say is that I think Crawford can take the best punch of his opponent and he can also dish one as well to stop or knock them down.

Spence is a more powerful puncher than Madrimov based on his record, so if he could absorb the punches of Spence, then I guess Madrimov has no chance of knocking out Crawford here. Honestly, I was surprise that Crawford would fight this guy, I mean after beating Spence, the hype is high for him, so he shoudl be pursuing for a bigger fight so he'll continue to soar. No offense to the fans, but this one looks like a tune up fight IMO.

Prime for prime Bud should be able to handle Madrimov. The only factor Madrimov having advantage here is the Bud's age and his first time fighting in this division.

Moneywise this is not much of a big fight for Crawford. The quality undercards are the reasons why this PPV event might get 400k or more buys. But legacy wise this is way bigger than beltless Charlo and Spence. Madrimov is not popular among casual fans but I'll bet to him over Spence. Bud has a chance to become a 4 division world champion here plus the mandatory status to WBO-WBC champion Sebastian Fundora. And if he wins against Madrimov and Fundora then there's only the IBF belt left remaining to become the first ever 2 and 3 division undisputed. And it is also very doable to stage knowing the deep pockets of Alalshikh. Although Alalshikh also hinted of pitting Bud and Canelo this December which is also a very good a big fight.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 04, 2024, 02:03:28 PM

Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Yes, if we have look at the previous fights of Madrimov, he is more of a powerful puncher and I think Crawford had deal a lot of this type of boxers in his career and he was able to adjust in the middle of the fight to even win by knockout himself.

I read some interview of him that when he was caught by Spence with that right hand, and he said in the line like "is that it", meaning he was able to take the best punch of Spence and he was not affected or even get wobbled by it. What I'm trying to say is that I think Crawford can take the best punch of his opponent and he can also dish one as well to stop or knock them down.

Spence is a more powerful puncher than Madrimov based on his record, so if he could absorb the punches of Spence, then I guess Madrimov has no chance of knocking out Crawford here. Honestly, I was surprise that Crawford would fight this guy, I mean after beating Spence, the hype is high for him, so he shoudl be pursuing for a bigger fight so he'll continue to soar. No offense to the fans, but this one looks like a tune up fight IMO.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 04, 2024, 02:03:28 PM

Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Yes, if we have look at the previous fights of Madrimov, he is more of a powerful puncher and I think Crawford had deal a lot of this type of boxers in his career and he was able to adjust in the middle of the fight to even win by knockout himself.

I read some interview of him that when he was caught by Spence with that right hand, and he said in the line like "is that it", meaning he was able to take the best punch of Spence and he was not affected or even get wobbled by it. What I'm trying to say is that I think Crawford can take the best punch of his opponent and he can also dish one as well to stop or knock them down.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 04, 2024, 02:03:28 PM

Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Charlo will be a big fight for Crawford, I mean he has been taunting them in the crowds during his win against Spence. And now that Spence is out of Derrick James maybe we can also see him moving up at 154 lbs and fight the Charlo as well. So there is a big changes in the landscape at super welterweight now as we can see previous friends fighting for the belt as well. So we will see. As far as this fight, yes, he will go against Madrimov, try to test his power and do some feint to test how he will move. But after that, Crawford will go in his beast mode and I wouldn't be surprised to see a knockout win by him again against a tough Madrimov by the middle or late rounds.

I am excited in this fight. We will see how WBA champion Madrimov fares against one of the best in the sport right now. Crawford is once again trying to add more in his legacy by becoming a 4 division champion if he wins here.

We'll see what's next for Crawford after this. At the moment, both Spence and Jermell have no belts and won't add anything on Crawford's legacy except money. The winner of Madrimov and Crawford will also get the WBO interim which can be turned into a mandatory to WBO and WBC champion Sebastian Fundora. Also, Turki Al-Sheikh of Saudi already hinted of wanting to make Crawford vs Canelo by December or January next year in the US.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 04, 2024, 02:03:28 PM

Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

Charlo will be a big fight for Crawford, I mean he has been taunting them in the crowds during his win against Spence. And now that Spence is out of Derrick James maybe we can also see him moving up at 154 lbs and fight the Charlo as well. So there is a big changes in the landscape at super welterweight now as we can see previous friends fighting for the belt as well. So we will see. As far as this fight, yes, he will go against Madrimov, try to test his power and do some feint to test how he will move. But after that, Crawford will go in his beast mode and I wouldn't be surprised to see a knockout win by him again against a tough Madrimov by the middle or late rounds.

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Quote from: darkangel11 on May 04, 2024, 02:03:28 PM

Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

Whatever Madrimov does in the ring Crawford is ready for that, you're not an elite if you do not have multiple plans or the ability to shift in the fight, after the Spence fight I consider Crawford a flawless fighter, can you imagine a fighter who was considered his co-equal getting knockdown by his jab.

Madrimov is not better than Spence so we can conclude that it will be a much easier fight for Crawford, Crawford needs to fight level-A fighters now after the Spence fight fighting other unknown names is not attractive anymore, so I expect him to fight any of the Charlo or Canelo, so let's see.

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Crawford has much more experience, better score, more to lose. Madrimov is still a newcomer when it comes to pro fights.
IMO Crawford is going to be very well prepared and harder to counter since he's a southpaw and you don't get a lot of good sparing opponents who excel in this stance, so Madrimov is going to have much less experience in fighting southpaws than Crawford vs orthodox fighters.

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picked Terrence to win by TKO just because I know him more than Israil Madrimov, but seeing Israil's boxing record, it's quite impressive how he already has a title belt when he despite only having 12 pro fights. I am curious to see how Israil Madrimov will fair against Terrence and how Terrence will fair against this young boxer.

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After all the failed talks about Crawford and Spence rematch.

I am still a bit salty about this, I really want to see them fight again.

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Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

He has been challenged though, but he keep on improving in every fight. Canelo already said that he is not interested at a Crawford fight. Although we all know in boxing that everything is possible if the money is right.

Crawford is just way too good. Tough chin, good skills and has the power to hurt opponents. But there were actually times he struggled and then made adjustments to secure his undefeated record. Old Gamboa was constantly hitting him before Bud hurt the Cuban. Kavaliauskas hurt him bad, Porter and Avanesyan somehow gave him problems before solving the puzzles.

And that is that the hallmark of a great champion right? Able to adjust in the fight itself, like Floyd Mayweather in the Mosley fight. He was hit by Mosley and I thought that he will go down and lose that fight.

If Canelo gives Bud a shot, I think Canelo stops him. Canelo is in his 30s but is well experienced in the heavier divisions. I doubt Bud's 36 year-old body can survive the onslaught unless Canelo is contented of outpointing and keeping himself safe. Anyways, Bud has already earned his ticket to the Hall of Fame in the future. First ever 2 division undisputed in the 4-belt era, 3 division lineal champion and he might get his 4th division belt if he beats Madrimov.

Canelo is too big for Crawford though, maybe just for his biggest paycheck he might want to test himself out. But now he had a good chance to become a champion at super welterweight so this is the easy route for him instead of chasing Canelo. But what we wanted to see is the rematch with Spence, but it seems that Spence has his own problems to deal first.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 03, 2024, 09:46:17 PM

If Canelo gives Bud a shot, I think Canelo stops him. Canelo is in his 30s but is well experienced in the heavier divisions. I doubt Bud's 36 year-old body can survive the onslaught unless Canelo is contented of outpointing and keeping himself safe. Anyways, Bud has already earned his ticket to the Hall of Fame in the future. First ever 2 division undisputed in the 4-belt era, 3 division lineal champion and he might get his 4th division belt if he beats Madrimov.

They better make it happen though, it's not about who is stronger as Crawford knows how to adjust in the fight. Maybe he'll use his quickness over Canelo, just like Mayweather did to Canelo but will he succeed on that? we will find out.

First, they need to make the fight happen, I think they have already hype this fight already and even if they ddin't they are still gonna sell this fight easy since both fighters are very popular now.

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It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.

Madrimov isn't an opponent that Terrence will have to underestimate, his demeanor and fighting style in my opinion looks like the kind that deceives you into thinking that you're going to beat it, plus his power seems to be much more than Terrence so I'm still on the neutral when it comes to this one, seems to me that this is going to be big fight though, really good line ups to the main event, I'm excited for the Latin fighters because it seems to me that there's going to be resurgence of more Latin fighters after all these years.

Base on Crawford's attitude though, I don't think he ever underestimated any of his opponents. On the contrary, he seems to be pump when there is trash talking like in his fight against Benavidez Jr. Also the same when there is respect like in the Spence fight. So either way, he will destroy anyone in front of him and I wouldn't be surprised if he will score a knockout against a formidable opponent in Madrimov. However, I don't understand what you mean by Latin fighters, Israil Madrimov is from Uzbekistan. And if my history is correct, he lives in Central Asia.

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Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

Anderson’s last fight was one of the worst I’ve seen in a long time. If he doesn’t make any improvements, and just shows up to collect a paycheck, Wilder is going to knock him out. It is still good to see him tested so early in his career. Fighting somebody like Wilder could be the motivation he needs to prove what he is capable of and it should also be a reason to stay disciplined and out of legal trouble, which he has struggled to do these past few months.

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Quote from: robelneo on April 27, 2024, 09:13:18 AM

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

He has been challenged though, but he keep on improving in every fight. Canelo already said that he is not interested at a Crawford fight. Although we all know in boxing that everything is possible if the money is right.

Crawford is just way too good. Tough chin, good skills and has the power to hurt opponents. But there were actually times he struggled and then made adjustments to secure his undefeated record. Old Gamboa was constantly hitting him before Bud hurt the Cuban. Kavaliauskas hurt him bad, Porter and Avanesyan somehow gave him problems before solving the puzzles.

If Canelo gives Bud a shot, I think Canelo stops him. Canelo is in his 30s but is well experienced in the heavier divisions. I doubt Bud's 36 year-old body can survive the onslaught unless Canelo is contented of outpointing and keeping himself safe. Anyways, Bud has already earned his ticket to the Hall of Fame in the future. First ever 2 division undisputed in the 4-belt era, 3 division lineal champion and he might get his 4th division belt if he beats Madrimov.

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It's good that Terrence is exploring territory after beating Spence right now Terrence has a level of invincibility, he was so perfect in his fight against Spence if he shows the same form as he did against Errol Israil will be in big trouble.
Terrence is already 36 years he should be more aggressive to establish his legacy and a fight with the Charlos will establish his legacy and if a possible fight with Canelo is something to look forward to in the future.

Madrimov isn't an opponent that Terrence will have to underestimate, his demeanor and fighting style in my opinion looks like the kind that deceives you into thinking that you're going to beat it, plus his power seems to be much more than Terrence so I'm still on the neutral when it comes to this one, seems to me that this is going to be big fight though, really good line ups to the main event, I'm excited for the Latin fighters because it seems to me that there's going to be resurgence of more Latin fighters after all these years.

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I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.

Yes he is fighting Zhang in fact, he is training hard right now to get into contention again check out this video here

FIRED UP Deontay Wilder sends WARNING to Zhilei Zhang!

I don't think he is taking Zhang for granted after what happened in his last fight against Parker, he cannot take anyone for granted, he knows what Zhang is capable of doing and he knows that Zhang is a technical boxer so he needs to improve his stamina and bring back that Brown Bomber power he was known for, Wilder cannot lose this fight or people will count him out.

It's a very important fight for Wilder, this is a comeback fight for him, or at least a win will put his name slowly in the contention again. Before it was only the 3 of them, Fury, Wilder and AJ.

But Usyk came into the picture and his losses against Fury put him into a tough spot. Now after a big lost against Parker, he will be fighting Zhang, which is a difficult matchup for him. So he better win first before talking about Anderson.

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Quote from: TravelMug on May 03, 2024, 06:34:45 AM

I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.

Yes he is fighting Zhang in fact, he is training hard right now to get into contention again check out this video here

FIRED UP Deontay Wilder sends WARNING to Zhilei Zhang!

I don't think he is taking Zhang for granted after what happened in his last fight against Parker, he cannot take anyone for granted, he knows what Zhang is capable of doing and he knows that Zhang is a technical boxer so he needs to improve his stamina and bring back that Brown Bomber power he was known for, Wilder cannot lose this fight or people will count him out.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 02, 2024, 01:23:40 AM

Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

I thought that Wilder will be fighting Zhang? So are they overlooking Zhang in his fight and thinks that he will be easy for him and then fight next Jared Anderson in the undercard of this fight? And obviously if Zhang wins then Wilder could be out of the picture again. And if we look at the betting odds, Zhang is the favorite if I'm not mistaken. Not sure what's the negotiation behind. But it's better for Wilder to focus on his fight against Zhang first before his camp talks about fighting the undefeated boxer in Anderson.

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Quote from: Kemarit on April 27, 2024, 04:50:14 PM

So a win here will make him a 154 lbs and maybe his next target will be Charlo or Fundora or Tim Tszyu. And obviously, this is stay busy fight just to avoid ring inactivity for Crawford. And to boot, he will be fighting for the belt, so very favorable for him.

This is going to be an easy win for Crawford and will establish his presence in the 154 lbs and I don't think these names will be a threat to Crawford, I followed many fights of Crawford and he shows perfection both in power and skill something that is lacking on those names.

The odds say Madrimov si almost 5:1 underdog in this fight, so yeah it could be a very easy but intriguing fight for Crawford. As others said, get busy for him this year and then wait for his options at 154 lbs as they might be thinking of going after the weakest champion in Fundora.

Crawford has never been challenged in all his fights, but he keeps getting better as he gets older, if ever he goes further in weight is there a possibility that Canelo meet him in the ring, I hate it when Canelo makes another excuse to beat first top fighters in his division before going against him.

He has been challenged though, but he keep on improving in every fight. Canelo already said that he is not interested at a Crawford fight. Although we all know in boxing that everything is possible if the money is right.

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Multiple sources are saying that Deontay Wilder agreed to fight Top Rank's hottest undefeated prospect Jared Anderson who owned a 17-0-15 KOs record. It will be added on the already stacked August 3 card in LA headlined by Crawford and Madrimov which is also organized by Saudi's Alashik. Wilder is already 38 while Anderson is still 24. The experience will surely favor Wilder but he's got low level skills. I think Anderson will be slightly favored by the oddsmakers here. He is young, strong, heavy handed but I still consider him raw and this will be his biggest fight of his career so far.

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