Topic: It is extremely hard to gain merits (Read 970 times)

There is quite reasonable information above.

 I would add that you need to realised adopting certain political views with regards the board and the developing systems of control will indeed influence how much merit you will attract. Do not assume objective debate with an aim to find the optimal answer/solution debate is always a good idea (if merit is the goal).

Certainly never waste time posting on the alt boards to attract merit.

You become more respected & integrate into the community as you increase your rank though which may help you to gain Merit. Rightly or wrongly, you’re more likely to gain Merit for a good but not great post if people know you & what you’re about.

Being on here for a couple of years will also enable you to know what topics to post about & which areas of the forum you’re more likely to receive Merit.

There’s no science to it, just try to be a helpful member of the community & make good posts. You’ll climb up the ladder of ranks in no time

You forget 'connections', they help a lot. When you have connections, other things can be worked out.

OP, you are good poster so I think you may be able to get a merit. Just be patience on it and make every post as commendable or good it should be. Then, you can find it later on that one day you will going to receive merits from the merit source. They will just check your history posts and then give you one if you deserve it.

There are different merit source and they had different standards so probably from those merit source you will be rewarded with merits.

You got two good points there, I saw merits being given for mere political opinions

And I agree with you that even if it is possible to reach 100+ merits, the average person will never do that, many will end up buying merits or abusing the system in some way

Thanks guys, i decided not to start a thread celebrating it. Kinda lost childish to me now as a snr member not saying other shouldn't if they feel like but earning of merit is now like a regular thing just like quoting of my posts. I guess the moment i developed the habit of continuous quality posting the merit started coming in their numbers. January i became a full member and now march snr member, it feels good knowing your effort is been rewarded. I might celebrate it when i get to hero status hopefully before the year ends until then lets keep having fun as we put effort into making the forum better each and everyday with our quality posting.

Wew, you've reached Sr Member before I know it. Congrats!

A proper sub section helps too. In Bitcoin discussion/altcoin discussion sections, you don't get much exposure to 'merit givers'.

Gambling discussion and this meta section is good place to place your tent (let me know other such places).

You got promoted to a Senior Member so fast.
I congratulate you to your new achievement, a self-made Senior Member makes a lot of sense.

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For OP,
I suggested you to visit two topics, and learn from those most merited or self-made users, learn from their inspirational stories, learn from their merited posts/ topics.
(1) Inspirational stories from self-made promoted users
(2) [CLUBS] Top Merited-Users Classified into 4 Clubs

If you want to achieve higher ranks via the merit system, you need to stop thinking in this manner. In want ever your do, your mindset matters alot. Here's a motivation for you from my self-made full member, celebration post;


It might take sometime as an average post to receive the required merits needed to rank up but if you keep on posting with the intention of helping others as each post is written with quality, you will surely achieve those set goals.

DON'T GIVE UP.

Getting merit is hard, when you don’t understand WHY merits are given in the first place.

I tried to write a guide on how to write good posts and getting merits on this board (please notice the sequencing of actions: first the good posts, then the merits).

You can read here:
Ranking up is Possible! My top 7 Hints!

Hope it will help you getting what you deserve.

It is hard enough that I have stopped trying. Just not as motivated that is all. If you are super duper great poster with above average knowledge you won't have a problem. But if you are just average, you will put up a post that is useful and with new information and people recognise it as such, but don't give merit. You can also be quite sure that if you have expressed a political view, people of the opposite view will not merit you. Or even ones that share your view but are afraid to appear biased LOL. It is very possible for excellent posters, for average not as much.

The thing is that having a good non-spam general discussion board (including tech discussions) dedicated to Altcoins is not highly encouraged in this forum, and even after suggesting this idea many times we are not receiving a positive response in regard to that. But the number of moderators trying to control the ongoing spam has increased to 2 from 1. People keep reminding me that we are in a Bitcoin forum, but I believe this forum has become one of the largest and most active cryptocurrency forums on the internet.

Truly speaking, I was not able to tolerate the spams and this was the primary reason for me becoming less inactive in the Alts board. To seach for a good discussion topic for getting me involved, I need to waste around 20-30 minutes of my time searching for them in the 10th and 20th pages of the boards. Along with Bitcoin, the alts too have an outstanding technology right from Ethereum, Monero and the more recently hyped Grin. Hence, I suggest you should better move onto the Bitcoin boards for you to rank up and receive merits.

P.S I agree to the fact that you have a better posting quality than most of the members who has received 50+ merits , but you are not still aware of how the merit system works. Writing quality posts alone isn't enough for receiving merits, you need to know where to post and when to post. If you find this out, then I am pretty sure you won't be creating another thread like this. The Spamcoin board isn't meant for people like you, Move on to the Main boards fella.

The earlier post was not meant to be harsh on you, but to encourage you to post good posts.

Exactly. If you think 100 Merits to be a Full Member is hard, imagine those going from Sr Member to Legendary.

@OP, I didn't take your opening post as panhandling for merit, but I found it funny what you thought deserved merit.  You certainly aren't the typical shitposter, even if you are wading in the shitshow.  But, I seem to recall being in situation not much different than yours, not long ago.

You'll learn what deserves merit as time goes on.  Unfortunately, they'll be slow to come in the altcoin section.  

It's still much easier to rank from newbie to jr member compared to other ranks, the difference gets huge with every rank progress.

Not begging, just saying maybe if a system such as the one put in place in stackexchange was put into work maybe I would work on having at least 60-70% of my post be high quality, I would never aim for 100% though because really there are some posts in which some users start trolling and then it is hard to hold myself back 100% of the time.

Still with a system such as the one on stackexchange I would focus more on having more highquality posts instead of having just more posts in general, like if I had 10 posts then 7 of them would be high quality and maybe even more, might be due to the fact that trolling would be discouraged so I might just be able to go up some other 10-15% and have a leway of 15% of posts be about me talking about my project/ideas but even then I might look into posting them in a more educational way with more content not just hey look at this, what are your thoughts?

The only exception would be to not qualify bump posts in the system?


Yea same most of my time I spend doing research like out of the whole day I probably spend 10-12 hours researching new things and then working on side projects and then there is family time, most of the time I only get like 3-4 hours of sleep and I am extremely drained to then work on doing a extremely useful post.



The thing is I love altcoins, most are sh!tcoins to be honest and I can spot them out 100% of the time still the ones that are not give extremely valuable information out. I am not much of a Bitcoin fan even though I have known about Bitcoin since 2010 when I was 13-14 just because of the outdated tech that it has, like yea it was news worthy and everything back then but I honestly believe that the cryptocommunity needs to move onto bigger and better things which is why I spend my time in the altcoin section.

OP, take note of posts like this one and ones from top-merited members.  That should give you a general idea of which posts earn merits--and in which sections, too.  As Coolcryptovator pointed out, posts in Altcoin Discussion rarely even get looked at, much less merited.

I would also suggest that given how few posts you've made in total, you're not doing too badly so far, even though you've been a member for the entire duration of the merit system.  You don't seem to make a lot of posts, so that's part of why you haven't earned many merits.

Don't spend all your time posting in the altcoin/bitcoin discussions. It's hard to find quality posts there due to the share amount of spam and one-line replies and many merit sources keep those on ignore. If you visited the B&H board sometimes in the last few months you could have noticed that I have an active thread where I try to help Newbies and Jr. Members get their first merits if they have quality posts. And I am not the only one, CryptopreneurBrainboss posted a link with active threads as well.

sMerits are abundantly everywhere.
Someone hold them without any specific purposes.
Someone hold them with good purposes, but they have not found merit deserved threads or posts to give their smerits.

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In short, I believe that sMerits are not too scarce as most of us imagined, they are abundantly, and need deserved threads or posts to be sent to them.
In other words, sMerit is not scarce, whilst the good, merit derserved threads/ posts are really scarce.
As for my case, I earned more than 130 merits since December last year, and only fall behind a little bit to the minimum required merits to promote to Senior Member.
I will try and believe that I can get promoted till the end of March.

There's no need to worry about Merits, worrying about how to get one will just stress you out. Actually getting Merits isn't too hard. By simply making good contributions for the forum will do the trick. The main problem why other people complains why they can't receive any Merits is because of their nonsense posts. It's been year already since Merit System were introduced but it seems like there are still a lot of people who are against with it.

I'm a full member when Merit system were launched which I had 100 Merits as default and look, I've managed to reach Sr. Member rank. See? The truth is I don't really have enough knowledge about crypto world as a student. As I experienced of being here in this forum, I've realised that this forum isn't just about crypto world, it is also about making new friends and helping each other and my proofs are,
1. Helping each other by reporting spammers- is reporting spammers related about Cryptocurrencies? It's not isn't?
2. Contributing about the betterment of the forum - it's not a crypto related thing as well isn't?
And etc...
all you need is to understand, contribute, and cooperate and you will earn what you deserve. Now, let's get back to the main topic. You don't need to make post like this for other people to notice you if you knew to yourself that you can do good things for the forum. Lot of members already proved that theory. Just sharing these thoughts of mine.

I have seen here ; to gain merit one needs to be:
1  Intelligent
2  Knowledgeable
3. Solving problems of other members answering to their questions.
4  Contributing something new to the forum
5  Working for the betterment for the forum
6  Must be capable to express views clearly so that others can understand what the person wants to state.
7  contributing a lot of time here

Most of the above are must if one wants to get lots of merit points with fast speed.  Or else the progress will be slow  

OP, most of your posting history is in the Alt Currencies board. It’s one of the worst, lowest quality parts of the forum. I doubt many Merit sources look for posts to Merit there so you’re pissing in the wind trying to gain Merit posting there frequently.

@OP
Just be helpful if its possible and try to make some quality contributions to the Forum .

Do not try too hard to get merited for every post or thread by running your head through the wall for it .

Either they come or they do not come.

I sent you one yesterday for a post I considered Merit worthy. Stop playing the hard done by act & you’ll get more from others. Pretty sure I’ve seen Loyce send you some before too.

Glad you admitted you haven't looked into the merit system that much, that could be the reason for your suggestion. If you observe the merit system, you'll come to a conclusion that it's truely doing the job it was intended for. We have limited amount of smerits generated by theymos then distribute to merit sources and the main reason users aren't recieving that merit is due to the quality of their posts.

Another reason could be the board you're posting in that's why a Reputed merit source created this thread; [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source to enable merit sources get access to quality posts in boards they aren't active in.

OP if you feel you have written some quality post and it went unmerited, make use of the thread; UPDATED [05/03/2019]: List of Active Merit Giveaways threads. there are numerous of higher ranked members ready to help users with your rank status.

    This is why I will also likely will not going to receive merits because it takes time to present a quality commendable posts. The post really deserves merit as what being presented by YOSHIE. So OP, instead of complaining here of not getting merits why not start a thorough well bake thread?

     As I have made my reply earlier that a merit source will consider giving you merits if you will obey rules, be good to other users and then do hardwork by making commendable post to receive merits. If only I have a lot of time to do it then possibly I will do one. But, my time is limited and I am not literally focusing on this forum. Besides there are other ways to earn than just doing signature campaign. As we all know that ranking up is essential in getting huge rewards.

    If I were you do not focus in this forum if you could not make a commendable post. Make another way of earning extra income. Look what i have done, I have my job, i have a part time job and I do marketing as an real estate using facebook and other social media. I do them together and this is why my time is very limited and I need also to balance spending quality time for the family especially to my wife and my kids.

Many sources try to avoid the Altcoin section coz of the turbulent sig. spam there, that's why people like you posting only there are difficult to spot.
I read some random posts form your post history and what I can say you are faaar better then the rest of the crowd posting there.
I don't consider this post as a merit begging so..

If you had visited my Merit Giveaway thread you would have been awarded a merit. Starting a mere begging thread like this won't help you in receiving your merits rather it complicates your situation of earning one even though you have a not bad posting quality. If you head onto the Beginners board people like me are conducting active merit giveaways to help Newbies and Jr Members in ranking up.

Certainly This. Making redundant posts in spam megathreads won't gain you merit. I am one among the very few who has gained some merits from the Spamcoin Altcoin Discussion board. It is certainly on which topic you post rather than what you post! I have guided some newbies in creating their own alts, clearing up their source code problems which has gained me merits. They were not Legendaries or Hero members to merit me and probably I post regardless of their rank. Whenever an Altcoin technical topic gets posted in the Bitcoin board they are moved onto the Altcoin boards. Search for such topics and help them.

So, you are sticking on to the main boards for getting the attention of merit sources and receiving merits?
If you are making posts only for receiving merits and ranking up then that shouldn't be. We are here in this forum not to earn and receive merits, but to help others and contribute something to the community. The signatures are just an incentive and to motivate people on making good posts.

If I were to make posts to receive merits, then I shouldn't have visited the Altcoin Board at all. What do I gain by helping a newbie in a spam board which wouldn't be visited by merit sources?

You were not aware of the forum standards and right after knowing that you need a Jr.Member Rank to post images, you seem to be creating this whining thread.

P.S I have given this post a Merit. Not that to rank you up, but I found it better than your other posts and merit was designed to identify good posts and not for those which we accept!

No, if you will going to behave properly as the merit source will going to look over you as time passes by and will definitely help you to rank up if you are also a good poster. I have known some users here that already ranking through the help of the merit source. Just be cool and obey the forum rules and aside from that you have to extend help among other users who are new and be careful about your posting habit that may disgrace you as your account. It would also be a plus points for yourself if you are good in English Grammar Construction. You will be able to rank up immediately if you have commendable post. But, if you are not, the you will be one of the bitter users that will complain of not receiving some merits. LOL. I have experience that already so now I am just likely contented with my rank. LOL

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Of course even I admit to it, I mean 99% of my post content do not deserve a merit still there are 1-3 occasions where I could of gotten one, even more where I could of gotten a thumbs up.

and I mean I already answered your question I do not look for merits, nor do I make it my job to do so, is this post of yours deserving of a merit? I do not think so because you do not even stay on topic of the post so you should look at your post before doing so also, at least the two-three other members actually provided some intellectual conversation.

Why would I want to make it my job to make all 100% of my post merit worthy, no thanks especially with the high standard of having to gain one.

Plus Coolcryptovator already pointed out my post contents, your posts seems a little generic and bland.

The problem here is that people are not greedy with their merits (there is nothing to gain for keeping them) but not all memvers here in the forum are worthy to receive one. The perfect example is you, if you look at your post history you will see nothing but either a short or generic post which both are not worthy to receive anything. Before you even think that the other members are the problem here why not look at your post quality first before you start judging.

I mean the 3 threads that you linked would take a extreme amount of time to do so, I do not see why I would have to research 3 hours into just providing a list of contents or script or hidden features, a system like the one seen in stackexchange would seem more useful as it would be easily used in ever corner of bitcointalk I know it can be done from having owned forums myself back in 2011-2013. Not everyone has the time to make such insightful post on bitcointalk itself.

Everything will be easy if you want, sure and effort? give a topic / post that is conducive and meaningful to the Forum, you will get Merit.
For example: posts that mean.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-new-dt-system-updated-04-may-2019-5095716

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/updated-list-of-bitcointalk-hidden-pagespost-5112334

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/show-all-on-long-topics-5112444

Provided you are sure to do something good, the results will also be good,
Trying to find meaningful information can be an example for other bitcointalk members.
Remember: (delayed success failure).

Do not often quote the results of people giving ideas, prioritizing your own mind, it is better for your purpose.

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That is, what is called business, like I said earlier,
Struggle, time and ideas, inseparable from meaningful posts,
Why does someone not complain about (time) when giving a good post to the forum.
that is, your weakness, when you don't get 1 Merit now.

Me:

"To be honest you are asking the wrong question.

The question to ask is what projects actually need cryptocurrency, because there are many projects that can actually benefit from the use of the blockchain but do not really need a native coin.

Blockchain and cryptocurrency are two different things and maybe you should do some research on the difference before digging in further."


User:

"I am well a aware of that the currency is just a byproduct of the blockchain mining (as the rewards motivates to keep the blockchain secure). But the question remains even if we talk about just platform tokens. Some of them have an use case, some of them exist just because of the ico funding model. And i was answering to the claim that "Every project needs a blockchain". So maybe you should read before answering."

Me:

"I am talking about your whole thread in general started off wrong, you asked the wrong question. Cryptocurrency is not a byproduct of blockchain mining as that is not the reason why crypto exists. What I am saying is that you seem to not be asking the right questions nor gaining the right answers from it.

There are many blockchains that run without crypto and the immutability of it is very essential in the business world.

most of the reason blockchains have coins is just because of the ICO nothing else as they have no real purpose.

a example is hyperledger which uses no cryptocurrency but provides real business to business solution with the use of blockchain which is very much needed in the business world."

User:

"I need to study the hyperledger before continuing , thanks for the info. Let me get back to you."


How would that have been spam? pointed out something wrong in his question,

he pointed out that I didn't understand his question,

I provided his some insightful information to help him understand why his question was wrong and lead him in the right direction,

he said thanks I didn't know that let me look into it.

I mean I honestly do not post looking for merits, but the time has also come where I would like to post a image to make a ANN and would of liked to have 1 merit, so now I would have to ask a friend to post my ANN for me.

Honestly I wouldn't spend my time chasing around merits as I most of the time I do not hold back on my opinion, plus I have to much things on my hand to be chasing around merits.

My honest review about your post is, first 3 post is consider spam in my opinions. Although your last post I will not consider spam post but it's not a good post also. I have detect something mislead. So there is no way to send merit on your post for me. I am not sure about others opinions, may be someone else might think worth of merit. But I describe just my opinion. You have to improve your posting behaviour. At leas make few good post and obviously you could gain merit. Don't make post for merit only, make good post for community.

I mean if you take a look it was 5-6 months back, just shows also how long one has been in the forum, not to long but for a while also.

I am not saying hey I deserve merits for all my post obviously not, also I have the right to ask a question, hey whoever answers my question should deserve a merit of course not me. I used the search function, did not find any related threads so I posted one asking a serious question, a helpful member would have lead me in the right direction for free still most try to keep it secret knowledge when it would be free in any other community, hey look at this common knowledge automated task that you could implement if you have some general coding skills(if not I can help you out at a charge) still people do not even try to help it's just a charge for everything and try to squeeze money out of all crypto holders.


not even trying to say I truly deserve the 3 merits or anything, still hey I feel at least one I should have obtained? I mean we are all busy people, why do I also have to make it a full time job to be able to gain 1?

After a while we are seeing a merit related thread on META.

Yes it is hard to earn since merits are generated every months with a limited quantity to the selective people called merit sources,so you need to post something which might get attention of merit sources to reward you a merit.

Posting useful things on mega threads won't get you there.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49664892
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49662055
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46840055
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.49813330



I know maybe not a majority of my post is me talking about project ideas/shilling in a way but maybe if there was a thumbs up/down type of approach I would be encouraged to write a much higher quality post before doing so such as hey this project did this good go into more details on their achievements and then be like this is a solution that I feel would benefit the community as a whole, if the community agrees of course I would be getting some thumbs up in if not then yea the thumbs down would be coming making sure that they didn't see any value in my post, just a thought.

I know when going to stackexchange I always do so just because of their rules in place, and feel pretty scared to post a low quality post just because I know I will lose rank.

Noticed from your post history that you are posting on Altcoin Discussion board only. Almost 95% of your post on Altcoins Discussion board. There is very low chance to gain merit even you make quality post on mega thread. All spammer around there. That's why no one will bother to read your post even you had made quality post. Can you point your few post on the OP that you think deserve merit ? So we can look on your post.


Few days back you were not about how work ICO wallet address,


But now you feel that you need merit for make your ANN thread.

I actually think you may be on to something.

Lucky for you that you just discovered merit club. Now that you're here.


First rule about merit club....

I have seen that merits have been extremely hard to come by, I have not been asking for them but still I feel I should maybe have gained 3-8 merits as some people even went out to find my post insightful and helpful at times, should a new system have to be in place? saying so as a technically new member on the forum, how long would I have to wait? I know there are times where I am active here and there but the past month I have been really active and still, why should it be so hard to just even obtain Jr member stat? I honestly haven't looked to much into the merit system to see how they are generated or if there is a reason on why one would not want to give them away but wouldn't it be easier to have a system in place such as that seen in stackexchange? Find a post/thread/reply give it a thumbs up/down someonething that is free to give away still if the thumbs down outweights the up they derank type of thing? I feel like this would be more helpful as my guess is I see people being greedy with their merits, IDK?