Topic: It is time for a decentralized solution for local governments (Read 148 times)

Interesting. This is the kind of system Schaeffer Cox was promoting before they railroaded him. I think this was one of the main reasons they feared him enough to make him a political prisoner. Just imagine such a system being deployed against tyrannical governments any time they violate some one's rights, you can see why they felt like they had to get rid of him immediately.

So I did some searching to see if this was already in the works and I ran across Guardian Circle

https://guardiancircle.com/

It's an app that you install, then connect with your friends and family locally. If you have an emergency you click the big 'Alert' button and every one of your "guardians" gets an alert. This then turns into a chat room where everyone can respond and you can give more details about what the emergency is. Once the incident is over you can award responders with their Guard token. It also keeps a record of the event for use later on if needed as evidence.

This interview goes into the goals of the app:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWAXFBddY2Y

Basically they hope to get subscription services set up so that you can pay to add either EMTs or trained security guards as your guardians.

I installed the app and it's pretty straight forward. You'll need to have people you want to contact in an emergency also install it.

Maybe we can go full decentralization akin to Uber or AirBnB.

Have trained security or bodyguards register on a site then get paid for their security services akin to ordering an Uber. Bring in security for an event, hire a guard for a localbitcoins trade, get them to your house in an emergency, etc.

On call, peer to peer police service. No overhead, money goes directly to the security (even better than Uber...blockchain based).

In the USA, the founding fathers of government recognized that we needed a decentralized government if we wanted to be free. But they also recognized that we needed a centralized government for emergencies, and for ways to help all the people of the country... which they were forming. So, how to do it?

They did it. How did they do it? By institution the 6th, 7th, and 9th Amendments.

The local jury can nullify any law, and we have all the rights we always had before government arrived on the scene. It's listed in those Amendments.

How does government keep its power? By keeping us ignorant regarding how to apply those Amendments in our lives.

Very often the transition from one state to another is accompanied by some inconveniences. I think we are currently witnessing the transition of the world economy from a state where we were all dependent on an endlessly printed petrodollar to a completely new state of the world economy with stricter standards. One of those standards was the gold standard. Perhaps we will see it in action again.

This unstable world is demonstrating that we need it now more than ever.

Before all but 500 million of us are depopulated.

right but it's quite risky to start it all now in this unstable world

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”
― Buckminster Fuller

If you love your current government that's great. If you think you can just get rid of government, that's not going to happen. But if you create an alternative option...then you're on the right track.

Bitcoin is not about ending the Fed. It is about replacing the Fed.

We need this for every implementation of government. Starting at the bottom should be the easiest.

+1 to this. People aren't rioting against the government right now, they're openly embracing more government control and in some cases even saying that the government isn't doing enough.

The US government has passed many stimulus packages already, and theirs already talks to bring more plans into existence. While I think it is the right thing to do because there are many Americans struggling -- what are we going to do with the debt that comes with this?

Seems to me that people don't always run to government in times of disaster. Often government does 2 thing to bolster the appearance of people running to government:
1. Not letting the people work it out on their own, in the best way possible - regulations;
2. Actually enhancing the disaster - printing funny money.

This is what is happening in this disaster... Coronvirus. Del Bigtree has found a whole lot of stuff that shows that government is making the pandemic. Whether it is to take control of the world, to save face in their mistakes about CV, or because they are simply ignorant of the damage they are doing.

What after all is government? People can take care of themselves, individually, reasonably well. But if they need help, applying for help from a government that is far away, and doesn't know their local needs, is approximately stupid. But, money, and free money, can be a great incentive for people to rely on government - #2 above.

True decentralized government is a local thing. Even State government, who know a lot more about their State than the Federal does, often don't understand the needs of people in a specific county.

I agree with your point about focusing on local government. County sheriffs have more authority than anyone in any level of government in their particular localities. This was intended from the start to be a form of decentralization. I think this is an effective route to take, I just wanted to point out that cheering for collapse will not work out the way people assume it would. The system that feeds the billionaires and oligarchs is still the system that feeds you and me even if it is inequitable. Burning down the house to get rid of a termite infestation is not a viable solution.

True...but government tends to centralize when getting control. If the local governments benefit from a cheaper and almost free option for some of their services then more money can be directed to their tithing toward their kings or dictators to get in favor of their masters.

And as decentralization makes everything more and more efficient, we'll just have one single dictator at the center who will eventually become irrelevant.

They slice away our freedoms bit by bit. We need to decentralize governance bit by bit.

The problem with your logic is that a collapsing economy will not take power from the government, it will only bolster it. Look at history. Any time there is a disaster people run into the warm embrace of government promising to save them. These people see the populace starting to get wise to their games, their only hope to maintain control is to level the playing field, turn over all the tables, and hope to claw back more control in the chaos. Ordo Ab Chao.

I met Dale Brown who runs Detroit's Threat Management Center. His company is a great example of taking control where the public police have failed (inner Detroit).

The mayor is required to support the local police over his service but has begrudgingly acknowledged that crime in the district where his team works has fallen significantly since he began.

But they do work in parallel with the local police. He told me the police are just fine with his company being involved. They're fine with it because they're not looking to get shot in the line of duty so if Dale's company gets to the scene first and can calm things down before they get there...all the better.

He collects a fee, gives out a phone number to call (after you've called 911). They're usually there before the police. The fee is higher for businesses, and the businesses are willing to pay it to keep their community low on crime. The poorer areas can pay a much smaller fee (or free) as this helps to lower crime in the area.

Where I live in Panama there is very little police protection. It's pretty much up to each home owner to protect themselves. This is difficult as guns are mostly illegal. This results in a lot of high fences, bars on the windows, dogs everywhere...solely used for guarding the home (not as pets). The local marina pays for security so it's not like this is a new concept. Just expanded a bit.

In the USA, the answer is something like this. Form a Private Membership Association... which does nothing except accept members.

Then, inside the PMA, any members who want to do business beetween each other, form a separate PMA for each transaction. Payment could be done in Bitcoin, any altcoin, simple trade/barter.

With thousands or millions of private PMAs under the one umbrella PMA, no taxation, because it is private, just like you and your wife might make a private deal between the two of you.


If government people want to use their governmental office to sue you somehow, 70 major Supreme Court cases, The Constitution, and at least 2 Amendments forbid them. Sue them for treason... execution.

This government power grab that we are experiencing is the worst parts of Communist China spreading throughout the world like a...virus.

One silver lining in all of this is that people are at home, not making any money, no income, no money for governments. Hopefully this means the crumbling of governments along with the crumbling of the economy.

So instead of complaining or whining about government, it is necessary to provide an alternative solution that is better.

Sure, plenty of people will come to this threat propping up their shitcoin "my coin that I invested in and want to get rich off of allows for governance and voting, so you should buy some so I can sell it and buy a lambo with fiat!".

But we need an innovative decentralized blockchain solution for local governments that local governments would want to adopt or find it necessary to adopt as they begin struggling with revenue.

It could certainly start small. The most basic function of government is protection of life and property. This could be done with an opt-in "insurance" that you pay which adds you to a list of people that are protected. The protection company would consist of two different companies.

The first company is threat management such as the private company Threat Management Center. This company already exists in Detroit. They are paid by businesses and wealthy people which subsidize lower income families in the same area (the idea being that if crime is kept down overall, then the businesses and wealthy benefit from a crime free area...criminals are discouraged from moving into the area).
Detroit's Threat Management Center sends someone out to do exactly as advertised...manage threats. If there is an immediate concern they are called to the scene. They usually arrive before the police and de-escalate  the situation. They show up to stop a husband beating his wife, someone breaking into the property, a fight, etc. That's all they need to do. Just manage the threat and make sure things have stopped.

The second company would be private detectives. They are the ones that gather evidence, find proof of the crime, find out whom did what to whom. They gather the evidence for the victim.

Both companies could certainly exist under current law, there is no interference with current police forces but they could certainly exist without it. Communities would feel safe and threats to life and property would be managed.

There could then be similar decentralized versions of jury trials (augur prediction market, private arbitration, etc.). Jails could either fall under the current structure or some system of compensation for the victims via contract could be put into place (which is still under the current system). If people contractually agree to follow the decentralized rules then those that violate those rules could be put into jail under this same system while still being under current laws.

There are several options for allowing for management of these companies. Some sort of contractual agreement or services that you pay for (I like Threat management company A so I'll pay them instead of company B who I am no longer satisfied with).

We used to have private detectives, they used to be prevalent. A decentralized way of paying detective insurance, linking the detectives with victims could provide a resurgence.

Of course it would need to be super easy for each person in the community to be involved even if it's Grandma sending a check in the mail to a payment processor that converts things to the tokens used for the system.


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