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Topic: It seems as though the sale of anything hacked/cracked is no longer permitted (Read 1732 times)

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Lauda, It was Diamonds. I reported it and a mod said i couldn't prove it was illegal in the op's country even though he did say which country he lived in and the diamonds were dug up there. He was not registered with the Diamond industry. the diamonds were not certified and therefore considered "Blood Diamonds" by the United Nations Sanctions..    Eventually it was deleted..I think it took a day or two.
Quite unusual, it depends on who was handling the situation (no need to name them publicly). Did the thread eventually get removed?

When i said held accountable i meant if you know the item is illegal and turn a Blind eye to it.
This is not always easy to judge. Besides, do you think that I (as an example; applies to any staff member) visit the marketplace frequently on the hunt for illegal items? We can't spot everything and decide correctly each time.

Get a Dog Lauda Smiley cats are Evil lol
You have dogie for that. I like evil.

The thread was removed but it took a day or two....and no i don't mention names at all. I understand the difficulties of keeping an eye on everyones activities and overall the Mods here do a great job. i was just giving a specific example of my experience.

Thanks
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Lauda, It was Diamonds. I reported it and a mod said i couldn't prove it was illegal in the op's country even though he did say which country he lived in and the diamonds were dug up there. He was not registered with the Diamond industry. the diamonds were not certified and therefore considered "Blood Diamonds" by the United Nations Sanctions..    Eventually it was deleted..I think it took a day or two.
Quite unusual, it depends on who was handling the situation (no need to name them publicly). Did the thread eventually get removed?

When i said held accountable i meant if you know the item is illegal and turn a Blind eye to it.
This is not always easy to judge. Besides, do you think that I (as an example; applies to any staff member) visit the marketplace frequently on the hunt for illegal items? We can't spot everything and decide correctly each time.

Get a Dog Lauda Smiley cats are Evil lol
You have dogie for that. I like evil.
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LOL....That's funny you really believe that forum owners/admins/Mods can't be held liable for what users post?   You can't be serious when you say this.

Who controls and Moderates the forum for what is legal and Illegal?   Answer: You as a Mod and also the Admins and owners of this site.  You are ACCOUNTABLE no matter how hidden you think you are.
This is rubbish. Let's start with a few points:
1) I'm not an employee of the forum. I don't have to do anything.
2) When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.
3) I'm not obliged to remove illegal goods.
4) You have no evidence of me ever witnessing the sale of such goods.
5) I'm a controlled by a cat.


I can't be held accountable for whatever you do. Good luck proving anything.

What item did you see smuggling on?  I watch them a decent amount don't know i have seen smugglers, but I guess I also was not looking for a smuggler either.
I doubt that smuggling would not be deleted.

They already took a pretty big stance of removing so many digital goods.  But you can see if you remove one... a lot still pop back up.  Kinda hard to prevent this.
Unless we ban all account sales, we can't really prevent it.

Lauda, It was Diamonds. I reported it and a mod said i couldn't prove it was illegal in the op's country even though he did say which country he lived in and the diamonds were dug up there. He was not registered with the Diamond industry. the diamonds were not certified and therefore considered "Blood Diamonds" by the United Nations Sanctions..    Eventually it was deleted..I think it took a day or two.

When i said held accountable i meant if you know the item is illegal and turn a Blind eye to it.

Get a Dog Lauda Smiley cats are Evil lol

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LOL....That's funny you really believe that forum owners/admins/Mods can't be held liable for what users post?   You can't be serious when you say this.

Who controls and Moderates the forum for what is legal and Illegal?   Answer: You as a Mod and also the Admins and owners of this site.  You are ACCOUNTABLE no matter how hidden you think you are.
This is rubbish. Let's start with a few points:
1) I'm not an employee of the forum. I don't have to do anything.
2) When deciding if a user has broken the rules, the staff have the right to follow their interpretation of the rules.
3) I'm not obliged to remove illegal goods.
4) You have no evidence of me ever witnessing the sale of such goods.
5) I'm a controlled by a cat.


I can't be held accountable for whatever you do. Good luck proving anything.

What item did you see smuggling on?  I watch them a decent amount don't know i have seen smugglers, but I guess I also was not looking for a smuggler either.
I doubt that smuggling would not be deleted.

They already took a pretty big stance of removing so many digital goods.  But you can see if you remove one... a lot still pop back up.  Kinda hard to prevent this.
Unless we ban all account sales, we can't really prevent it.
legendary
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I have seen tons of illegal stuff being sold here....and when i pointed it out i actually got Questioned by a Mod as to  how i knew it was illegal in their country when the OP stated it in their Product Description as "Smuggling"  ....


What item did you see smuggling on?  I watch them a decent amount don't know i have seen smugglers, but I guess I also was not looking for a smuggler either.

But the forum really cant be responsible for post's.  Yes they can remove them and there is a reporting system to help with this.  You see illegal... report it.  They already took a pretty big stance of removing so many digital goods.  But you can see if you remove one... a lot still pop back up.  Kinda hard to prevent this.
hero member
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Where is the forum based? Is it in the US? If the US prosecutors find there is illegal activities in this forum
The forum can not be held responsible for the actions of the users. It does not work that way.

LOL....That's funny you really believe that forum owners/admins/Mods can't be held liable for what users post?   You can't be serious when you say this.


Who controls and Moderates the forum for what is legal and Illegal?   Answer: You as a Mod and also the Admins and owners of this site.  You are ACCOUNTABLE no matter how hidden you think you are.


You have Jokes i see that.....They are funny too.
hero member
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I have seen tons of illegal stuff being sold here....and when i pointed it out i actually got Questioned by a Mod as to  how i knew it was illegal in their country when the OP stated it in their Product Description as "Smuggling"  <----Isn't Smuggling a Worldwide Term used for an illegal activity to move something to another area without consent or approval of local and international laws?    Hmmm  What did i miss?

Meh.... it's not my ass facing legal ramifications for what people sell here.  Have at it and look the other way.

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I have a question. As there was some demand for those products, will people asking to buy accounts (without necessarily implying that they want exclusively hacked accounts) get the benefit of the doubt? Or will WTB threads also be getting deleted?
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And that's why there are so many child porn forums. Because you're totally fine if it's your users & not you who put up the kiddypronz.
False analogy.
Analogy's fine.
Theymos can not deny knowing what's happening here (has been informed multiple times). But you, you keep taking it for your owner Smiley
But... But I was told non-mining nodes are essential to Bitcoin security and decentralizationings Huh
And I when I told you that non-mining nodes are irrelevant, because trivially faked, you got upset...
And now ...you're telling me that non-mining nodes are irrelevant, because trivially faked? Shocked
Everything is important, albeit without the miners you can't do anything either. Keep drinking the kool-aid and trying to troll.

Lol, how's that 2+ million-dollar forum software thermos "commissioned" doin', the totally not money-laundering one, the one that's better than SMF in every respect?
Teh tangled web... Just a matter of time...

If you do something of interest, 100% chance you'll get owned. Your cat's neither here nor there Smiley
Wrong. Stop trolling around the forum.
You'll have to take this on trust, Friend Smiley
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And that's why there are so many child porn forums. Because you're totally fine if it's your users & not you who put up the kiddypronz.
False comparison.
If you do something of interest, 100% chance you'll get owned. Your cat's neither here nor there Smiley
The chances are currently near zero. Stop trolling. This is not even related to the OP.


And i am about to keep on nagging on this. I am sick of this shit and also of the scam accusations that have there origin in the digital goods section. It might be a hard fight but as this wonderfull screenshot from op shows: it is possible.
As dogie said, the section became really flooded with such and unusable. However, things have 'changed' so let's keep it up.
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Where is the forum based? Is it in the US? If the US prosecutors find there is illegal activities in this forum
The forum can not be held responsible for the actions of the users. It does not work that way.
And that's why there are so many child porn forums. Because you're totally fine if it's your users & not you who put up the kiddypronz.
will they arrest the moderators?
Even the admins don't know who Lauda is. Who are they going to arrest, my cat?  Wink
The Man is pretty good with computers, Anon. And subpoenas, which theymos never contests.
If you do something of interest, 100% chance you'll get owned. Your cat's neither here nor there Smiley
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Are you able to guarantee indemnity or are you talking from your hat?
You didn't get my point though. I'm trying to say that people should not (!) be complaining about their threads being removed. They were selling illegal goods.

If staff were to report every single unlawful thing seen here you'd need a couple full time prosecutors working for the forum. lol
Most likely, yes!

Uh, I'd like to say bravo to bct staff and fuck the carders.  For real, that sort of thing shouldn't be allowed anywhere.
Who's with me?Huh
Im with you. It's about darn time because the digital goods section started to look like hf lol.
Actually, 'whywefight' brought it up a few weeks ago in another thread. That got my attention.

And i am about to keep on nagging on this. I am sick of this shit and also of the scam accusations that have there origin in the digital goods section. It might be a hard fight but as this wonderfull screenshot from op shows: it is possible.
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When no one forbid selling accounts on this forum this will going on. There will only be a market when there each day topics about accounts who can be bought. I'll never will buy an account on this forum for sure .
legendary
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Where is the forum based? Is it in the US? If the US prosecutors find there is illegal activities in this forum
The forum can not be held responsible for the actions of the users. It does not work that way.
will they arrest the moderators?
Even the admins don't know who Lauda is. Who are they going to arrest, my cat?  Wink
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Where is the forum based? Is it in the US? If the US prosecutors find there is illegal activities in this forum, will they arrest the moderators?
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Good - it can't help Bitcoin to be seen as the payment method for stolen stuff.

Mind, it didn't/hasn't hurt PayPal.
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Good, that board was almost unusable with the amount of illegal or immoral trash cluttering it.
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Are you able to guarantee indemnity or are you talking from your hat?
You didn't get my point though. I'm trying to say that people should not (!) be complaining about their threads being removed. They were selling illegal goods.

If staff were to report every single unlawful thing seen here you'd need a couple full time prosecutors working for the forum. lol
Most likely, yes!

Uh, I'd like to say bravo to bct staff and fuck the carders.  For real, that sort of thing shouldn't be allowed anywhere.
Who's with me?Huh
Im with you. It's about darn time because the digital goods section started to look like hf lol.
Actually, 'whywefight' brought it up a few weeks ago in another thread. That got my attention.
legendary
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Its just the beginning of getting rid of all that crap. Like i said it was about time to do something.
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Nothing has changed. It was just about time to pay more attention to this. Actually the most effective method would be to ban account sales in general, albeit that would harm the 1% of the legit sellers.
Oh well, It was a good run, BTCtalk seemed to be a good marketplace with minimal mod interaction and loose rules but no more :/
You should be happy that you're not going to prison.

 Are you able to guarantee indemnity or are you talking from your hat?
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Uh, I'd like to say bravo to bct staff and fuck the carders.  For real, that sort of thing shouldn't be allowed anywhere.

Who's with me?Huh

Im with you. It's about darn time because the digital goods section started to look like hf lol.
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Uh, I'd like to say bravo to bct staff and fuck the carders.  For real, that sort of thing shouldn't be allowed anywhere.

Who's with me?Huh
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Nothing has changed. It was just about time to pay more attention to this. Actually the most effective method would be to ban account sales in general, albeit that would harm the 1% of the legit sellers.
Oh well, It was a good run, BTCtalk seemed to be a good marketplace with minimal mod interaction and loose rules but no more :/
You should be happy that you're not going to prison.
If staff were to report every single unlawful thing seen here you'd need a couple full time prosecutors working for the forum. lol
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Nothing has changed. It was just about time to pay more attention to this. Actually the most effective method would be to ban account sales in general, albeit that would harm the 1% of the legit sellers.
Oh well, It was a good run, BTCtalk seemed to be a good marketplace with minimal mod interaction and loose rules but no more :/
You should be happy that you're not going to prison.
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It was about time. Cleaning the digital goods section is ongoing...
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There was also a similar deletion a week or so ago in which is lost my 700 reply thread.
I have PM'ed grue multiple times asking for clarification without any response whatsoever, it seems he just randomly comes and deletes a bunch of thread from the first few pages.
There are still plenty of such threads left, so he must just be doing a quick once over.

Also, any account seller that says the accounts are not cracked is lying.
I noticed he took down quite a few legit threads as well (selling VBA verified paypal accs, not hacked) and alike.

Oh well, It was a good run, BTCtalk seemed to be a good marketplace with minimal mod interaction and loose rules but no more :/
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It never was permitted, although it seems the threshold for deleting/trash-caning topics has decreased, and the level of attention by moderators the digital goods section has increased.

As a side note, I would not be surprised if these kinds of topics were a gold mine for signature spammers because of their large numbers and it was easy to ask a lot of (pointless) questions in them
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Ow. That's pretty surprising.

I feel like this could get messy because 99% of account sellers are selling cracked accounts, but only a few will admit it; and the only way to prove it is to actually buy one from them.

Today, grue deleted ~25 OPs citing hacked accounts, it seems to be up to his jurisdiction as he's the mod there. I haven't seen any rule about this but to be honest it was pretty obvious that those account were hacked/cracked.

I think it's a fair judgment but this kind of fraud had gotten out of hand in this forum, but indeed it could get messy. I wonder if more will follow. Would prepaid Visas and Mastercards also be banned under the assumption that they might be issued under someone's account unbeknownst to them? Will gift cards sold at discount rates also be banned under the fear that they might be carded? I hope this will only affect mass account sellers given that they were the most obvious case.
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Ow. That's pretty surprising.

I feel like this could get messy because 99% of account sellers are selling cracked accounts, but only a few will admit it; and the only way to prove it is to actually buy one from them.
legendary
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didn't see that coming... wonder what finally changed things?
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I just went into the digital goods section to see a massive pruning of active topics.



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