Topic: It's not a job (Read 667 times)

You just ignore people.

You get nothing out of lying so why do you lie? Show us a screen shot of the signature moved to the balance or rather just shut up. They don't pay must I repeat myself? The button doesn't work, how can you say it does when it doesn't? Are you daft?

If you were being paid you would not be looking for other work. Stop lying. Once more you will just ignore me.

WTF is the matter with you anyway??

Primary its a platform where you can get knowledge and topics for exploring this new(for me) technology. I do respect the accounts that share knowledge or suggest better things. I do think that seekers are least concerned bounty, signatures it may be extra thing to them.

Well. The truth is that in some developing countries, even if you have a proper job, your income is quite low (about 200 ~ 300$ per month for a full-time job).
You will then have a comparison between making money from the crypto world (as a MMO job) compared to actual work. If you are capable, its income is quite good and I think it is possible to get more wages from real work. That's why many people choose jobs in this world.
Otherwise, you can maintain your current job to secure income, and see MMO as a secondary source of income.

i consider this forum as an invaluable source of information, but over time i hope to be able to turn it into a second entry, to add to my work

Not sure why Lauren is talking crap against me, Is it a jealously thing?  You can join the same signature campaign as well, ( not sure if they are still accepting new participants or not though)  Btw , don't call me son.

It does not matter if you are living in a 3rd world country or a developed country. You can only work online and earn if you have skills. Without skills you cannot earn online.


Are you getting paid for Yobit ? As far as I know they are not paying on signature campaigns. Also the signature campaigns are not full time jobs so do not expect anything substantial from them.

If you decide to follow anything and want that anything to support you, you could end up in serious trouble as well. This is a constant threat with everything we do. I would rather work for different projects here then sink my 8-9 hour job into one place every day. I can lose my job at any time. A job means 100% of what you put in to earn $$$ is at risk and all eggs packed in one basket. Sure you get a more stable work but the threat is still there and honestly, will you be happy living that way? What if you fight with your boss and from then on never get along? That would be horrible.

Saying the forum could vanish or a business will just end is no more likely then being struck by lightning or knocked over and killed crossing the road. Focusing on these things will only increase the likeliness they will happy.
This is actually paranoia and something I suffer from. I use to fer crypto would disappear entirely. I even feared the internet would go offline. It is just fear. There is no benefit in entertaining it. It only serves to bring you down.

yes most things will fail. It is not just exclusive to crypto. So what if you fail? If it was easy it would have no value. The harder something is the more value it holds. I want to fail. Not once not twice. I want to fail endlessly. Fear of failer is true failure. No success comes from giving up. Failure is simply another way how not to do something. You do not beat yourself up nor give up. You get back up and you try again. I am not sure what companies you refer to that just give up but I don't think successful people just give up everything they have built.


Yes, those posters that made those claims gave up. They thought it was easy and when it wasn't they gave up. Obviously, they failed. The more you fail at something the more difficult it will be for someone else to do the same. If you failed 1000x trying to design something and you finally did it. You know for a fact someone else trying to do the same is gonna have a dam hard time. Thus you secure a rare skill and knowledge.

Also, remember you only have to pass once. You only need 1 win. You miss 100% of the shots you do not take. If you take 10000x shots and the next shot goes in.... You have done it.
If you uwant to work from home you need to understand the risks that are involved and you need to diversify massively. People who succeed knew what they were getting themselves in. They know the risks. No one becomes successful feeling safe.

Bounty hunting is just earning an investment instead of buying in at the ICO. For me it is a thrill. People say crypto is so volatile. SO??? Roller coasters are fun.

Btw almost all my assets are in crypto and have been so since 2015. I left my shithole job at the airport and I feel much better. I have energy I don't have to drive to work and waste time and fuel. For now, I earn less then I would like to but I am much happier.

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I would give you some merits but you are already legendary and in the best signature campaign around so ^^ Hope it's ok I give them to someone in need of some.

No one's saying that.

What they are saying is that if you throw in everything and decide that this place is going to support you from now on you might wind up in serious trouble. The money flowing in this forum comes and goes. What was a world beating business yesterday might be shut down by The Man today. Whatever shittoken you signed up for that was going to change the world could wind up worthless in a matter of weeks.

This very forum itself might vanish with no warning.

And as for bouncing back, crypto's fortunes are heavily interlinked. You don't have one area thriving if the rest of it goes dead. Everything goes dead. Even the best capitalised companies give up. If your gig dies in a downturn the chances are most others will too.

If you'd joined at the latter half of 2017 you would've thought you'd found an eternal money fountain. Fast forward into the following year and things looked rather less fertile.

If people have several different sources of income from online stuff then great. I've seen many posters claim the opposite who were very confident of having all their eggs in one basket and they were never heard from again.

Jobs are not safe and if you lose your job you screwed. How is a job better then working here? YOu telling us we should rely on one single job rather then multiple. Please man...

A real job?? Explain what a real job is?

Btw noone got rich of a job. Job stands for "just over broke" do you want to live like a slave every single day of your life at a "job" that is some great advice there. No thank you I  would rather freelance online and use my brain then waste it away in some dead end shit job that you only do to fill the hours. You can earn while you learn here. Why would you want a job when you can work for yourself at home?
I would rather earn less and stay at home and work there then go to a job like a little robot doing my 9 to 5 every day.

You can absolutely work and get 100% of your income from this forum. If you think you can't or have not and have given up well maybe you deserve that?

You can use a bounty to get involved with one of the teams and maybe land yourself a job on the actual team.



You basically telling people to kill their dreams and live like a slave.

I say leave your shit dead end low income hellhole job and work online 100%

I love how you claim it is bad to rely on your income source to be here yet....

What if you lose your job? Then you @#$@ed, If I lose work here its ok there is much more and i can bounce back. If you lose your precious job its all over for you.


Bitbustah is talking shit. They always claim they have been paid yet they the only one. Funny the users claims how well they being  paid yet look at their post history and they applying for other signature campaigns that pay much less. Why the hell are you lying what do you get from it? I you were being paid by yobit you would keep quite and enjoy it. Where is your payment screenshot from yobit?? That balance button doesnt work son.

Really, man. I did not see people say Yobit signature campaign has still run and actually paid for their participants. Can you confirm this, please.
It is a good payment per day, if meet post quota, but why did you apply in MintDice when you have been in better campaign (Yobit)?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52098153

I'd be a little careful with that campaign you're in. It is widely detested by people in this forum and they'll be scanning any users for any transgressions carefully. It may not be around for very long.

But the don’t even care to read white paper and road map,but cries when they are scammed and not get paid.as the normal this was the normal reason why some are filing complaints for not receiving payments
I think it’s much better to call as “Extra Job”or “sideline” .and I also believe that people inside forum must have also life outside and never dedicate your whole time here.never forget that this is Virtual life and assurance is not 100% indeed

I'm happy for the people living in 3rd world countries that can have a good life doing online work instead of slaving all day in a sweatshop factory making nike shoes or something.

I could make $32 a day with my current campaign, if I posted the maximum amount but I am usually too busy for that.  So around 900 a month which is still a very small amount for where I live, it has a very expensive cost of living.

It's still not a "job" , you may earn from time to time, but not everytime that's why forum members have been active on encouraging some members here who mistakenly think that this forum is for someone whose less unfortunate , who doesn't have job etc., You'll realize sooner that this place is not for a jobless person. This is for the people who want to continuously learn about Bitcoin, to engage in discussion. You need a stable job. Paid Online Jobs, specially here in this forum is reliable to support your daily needs.

Yobit?? Should you say Yolodice

Anyway, try to reread my post. I stated that I hold the remaining of my monthly income

I live in low income nation too, so I understood what you said.
They are not only long-running campaigns, but also are highest paid campaigns.
lol, it is good to know you have plans to use part of your income from Yolodice to re-invest, but it makes me laugh that you don't have plans to invest in bitcoin when next year bitcoin halving will occur, or in altcoins that are actually cheapest in alt/btc pairs for last two years.

0.0063 to be exact and at around 240$ per month (current price), it is a huge monthly income already in our country. I didn't taught for even a second to find another signature campaign right now. I remember the time when I spent weeks just browsing the services section hoping that there is a open Signature campaigns that pays Bitcoin and I'm lucky I see Yolodice and got accepted.

At this moment, there are only few campaigns that runs for a long time already (Yolodice, Chipmixer, Bustadice, Bitsler, 777, Bitvest are some). Some lasts for only a few weeks or months. I have no intentions to find another signature campaign anymore.

Yes I'm aware of it that anytime Yolodice can stop their campaign so what I'm doing is I convert around 40-50% of my total monthly earnings and invest it in Stocks or in our future business and some to pay some expenses like foods electricity etc. and I hold the remaining Bitcoins. In that way, even the campaign stopped at least I diversified my portfolio and if that happens I think its time for me to find a realtime job already.

Anyway, I'm just happy that this topic has been an interactive one so that we can share our opinions regarding this.

I think it is scammy if you are promoting or receiving bounties from a project you don't believe in.

I agree with gentlemand that campaigns can end at the most unexpected times
no contracts were signed or anything to protect campaign participants
which one do you think has a high chance of happening,
get fired the next day from work without warning or the signature campaign ends abruptly?

Companies are more ruthless then ever and they see their employees as expendables, just ants on a spreadsheet.  People don't have job security anymore, this isn't the 1950s.

There is nothing wrong to be here and get some income, in case you contribute something to get extra income. If all guys joined forum to post "hi, thank you, nice, bump...", and get easy income, that is so weird nowadays. Not only in forum, but also on other platforms, like YouTube, there are lots of changes and people have to do more constructive and contentful things to have eligible stuffs, that in turn help them to earn income.

A 'real' job should give you some notice, may give you a payout and may help you find another one. A gig on here will simply vapourise. For many that'll be fine, it's play money. If you're feeding your ten kids then it's a problem. And these things are cyclical. There may be no other avenues out there if the whole scene is quiet.

People are getting fired constantly as companies move to automate more jobs, everything will end eventually.  I don't think it is nuts.



Don't bullshit yourself scumbag, your here like money just like most people here, you wouldn't be posting this much without your lil paid signature you hypocrite. 

There are some basic topics they should read: unofficial forum rules (from mprep), guides on signature campaign (from hilariousandco), and my thread
Since 2018, what did you contribute to prevent signature ads removed globally?
If they are here to get some kinds of income, they should read my thread and start to think seriously on their roles, and their contributions to help signature ads still be here, for their future income.

To be honest, most of newbies are joining this forum just for hunting from bounty/ICO's. They even do not bother to read useful topics where they could learn lot. I don't they they have tried to contribute for forum ever. Anyone should not leave his/her job due bounty or something else that related with crypto-currency. Because it would throw financial issue in near future. Its true that people's are earning from here by different way but I don't think we should fully depend on that earning.

Exactly. I experienced such thing myself. I joined BitBlender campaign, in early of 2019, but in fact that campaign lasted for years. The Bitblender platform used to be one of the oldest and most reputable mixer services, but suddenly the platform shut down with short announcement, and it is a scam exit. That is life, and every good campaign has to end someday.

I've been in campaigns that lasted for several years that ended with absolutely no warning at all. When a good campaign ends the market will be flooded with its participants looking to join another and will likely be picked over other users.

If your campaign dying will screw your finances then you should be planning for that. It could happen any moment. I've seen people saying their pay their rent with sig campaign payments. That's nuts.

It makes sense, with your rank, 0.006 BTC per week in maximum, and at current price of bitcoin, it worths about $240 per month, that is not small money in third-world nations. In fact, you luckily chosen in good campaign but it also depends on your decision to determinantly stay with YOLOdice over time. If you jump between campaign, your luck would have been over.
It give us a good example that forum always welcome good newbies, and good users whom don't use the forum as an available ATM and as place to dump their garbage-posts. No investment and contributions, but lots of money in return, it's not fair for forum.

OP made a lot of good points but I agree with you that online work is a real job. I don't know if OP have heard of the gig-economy already, I think bounty works falls in that industry.

I think that is the main reason why I stopped working as an employee. I'm just lucky to be picked as one of the participants in a signature campaign that is running for a long time already.

Signature campaign to be specific. I wish I have skills in graphics design but none . I'm focusing on the business and investments.

That is why I stayed here and spend most of my time here. I will be always thankful that a forum like this has been made. A place for information and at the same time, changing the lives of different people (spammers or not).

I think this forum as a "Knowledge pool" where we can gain knowledge and share our knowledge to other users. I have learnt many things from this forum and also shared my knowledge to the community. If we spend some time to acquire knowledge, then we can learn a lot of things from here. If we have any doubts or queries we can ask here to get the answers from the community members. You would say that you can ask your query on Search engine and you will get the answers or details about your topic. Why will you ask your query on Bitcointalk forum? If you ask any question here, you will get answers from different people with a lot of different contents. You will get answers from those who know about that topic or those who have experienced in that topic. By this way, you can get a better information than searching.

You are so lucky to get acceptance to join one of highest-paid and long-lasting campaign.
You can feel more freely here, but in reality your expression is incorrect. You always have to satisfy requests from campaign managers and companies that hire you for their signature campaign.
Good learning attitude, but it also means you actually have savings to live for a while without income from your works here.
There are so many types of works in forum, bounty or signature campaign are just one of them. Others are graphic designs (for OPs), coding, services.
Admin supports good users from third-world.

I see a different perspective with regards to this I think.

To be honest, I spend my past few months doing the requirements of my signature campaign and that is my only source of income at this moment.

Some maybe will ask "Why don't you get a realtime job??". To answer that, I earn more here than my realtime job and I don't want to be ordered by somebody (my nature) that is why I quit my job and focus here. In order to keep myself from being efficient daily, after I finish my requirements here I read books regarding financing so that I can apply it in my future.

I know that many people here are saying "Get a realtime job because bounties can be removed anytime". For me, it will come to "How will you manage your earnings here". What will you do to your earnings?? If you will use it for business then good because you invested your earnings in order to get more profit but if you will use it in non-profitable things then... you know what will happen.

What I do in my earnings here in the forum is (a) I invest some of it to the stock market (b) Saving it to build up a business in the future and (c) Holding.

I know bounty campaigns and trading is not a job but if you are living in a third world country like me, they are considered another source of income. To the bounty hunters there, don't depend your life here. It is true that bounty campaigns can be removed anytime so the best thing to do if you got a reward, invest it into different investments . Just my Opinion

I know few people that quit their jobs to become day traders in 2017. But that was the time of crazy market and everyone including my grandma could profit during that bull market.They thought that after few months of trading they have skill to live purely from that.And then 2018 came, and it showed who is the real deal and who is just a overconfident noob. It takes years of learning and hard work to be successful at that, it cant be cramped in few months.
And now of course they are all back to regular jobs

In looking for a source of income one should be more interested in stability and job security. Which you cannot get here on the forum.
Yes, a lot of people profit from trading, but a lot more don't. It takes practice, mentorship and also capital to get you started up. As much as possible diversify your sources of income, but do not get heavily dependent on any source that doesn't offer much security.

Agree, too many newbies in Bitcoin/forum world try to make their living here. It was not designed like that. Its place of sharing knowledge, talking and sharing information in general. Its not job position. This forum is unique in terms of earning opportunities but there are minor thing, not any serious money (day job).
Try to enjoy forum first, then think about anything else.

I dont understand why you are advising newbies to get a real life job instead of trading,would have been better if you are talking about bounties because many bounty projects are scam but trading is another thing entirely,once you know your way around trading you will make more than getting a real life job,the situations of every countries is different and its hard to find real life jobs in some,can you cope with real life job that pay you 80$ in a month by been a full time teacher in a school,working from 7:30am to 5pm on mondays to fridays? Pls reply

But that is the whole point of the OP really. What is often stressed is that, if the forum is taken solely for the purpose of milking the cow, then it will only lead to it being a heavily spam-based place, with a reduced amount of content being otherwise. That is not the forum’s goal, so persisting in this fashion is not sustainable.

Even though we may understand that everyone needs to try to make a living in this world (understanding is not a synonym for sympathizing with the means), depending on the forum for income is a low perspective/ low effort approach. Bounties could be restricted and even ended at any point in time. There are multiple cases though of “eco-friendly” people that go after their bounties whilst providing decent enough content through their posts, with no need to spam during the process.

That's why people who choose to do bounties should do them without becoming dependent on them - they should realize that sooner or later they will have to find something new, and they should be preparing for it during the spare time that they have. It should be viewed as an opportunity to pick new skills, get an education, look for real jobs, etc. Things will only be getting worse, altcoin hype of 2017 will not be repeated, and investors have learned to not buy fresh shitcoins.

you are somehow right on that , op should include people from poor countries where people cant find a good job so they are depending on bounty work.

That's fair enough but others have pointed out that becoming dependent on gigs through here could wind up digging you into a serious hole if they dry up, and almost all of them have eventually. In many a case entire classes of 'opportunity' have dried up alongside an entire market.

OP is a hyprocrite with a paid signature.  Don't you realize that everyone can't get a normal job in their local economy.  Online work is a real viable option for people with no way out.

This forum is really not for someone to treat as his main source of income. Having a job is really different in terms of earning and socializing in a real world. But for someone like me that has a physical condition who is not capable of working outside this forum helps me to earn some money to help pay our monthly internet bill and buy some things I want.

I live in a third world country so the amount I earn here is already enough to pay or buy the things I mentioned above.

This. There are just SO much self-proclaimed expert/professional traders out there, just because they got lucky with a couple of trades by buying in on r/cryptocurrency hyped coins or listening to those pump groups. People are definitely oversimplifying and heavily underestimating the difficulty of trading is.

I'd be truly amazed if 1-5% of the people on here who claimed they were becoming full time traders had anything more than a pot to piss in after a handful of months. Those who are on here boasting about their prowess are likely posting from a public library before going back to their sewer for the night.

The average human simply does not have the wiring to make a success of it. At least shitposting doesn't require risk management or analysis.

Hope you do understand trading can be considered as a career path. We do have professional traders outside the space but I don't have any idea how popular they're in the crypto industry (speaking of professional traders) although that doesn't mean you can't make a living trading cryptocurrency. The different aren't that much but you first have to equiped yourself & learn the required skill.

While bounty hunting shouldn't be considered as a job, trading on the other hand can be considered as a job if you do it rightly. Now when i speak of trading, I'm not speaking of the average trading instead professional trading.

Aye. I remember the same. I'd hope that most are clueless and didn't care or understand what they were involved in and so they insta dumped. It's the ones who hung on hoping for a payday that never comes who'll be up shit creek.

Even if you had insta dumped pickings would now be extremely slim to non existent.

If they'd put effort into building a non zombie account they could've ridden it out in a decent campaign. In some places $50 a week gets the job done. I doubt most could be bothered to think that far ahead though.

Of course! I'd definitely do the same. More income by being relaxed and posting on forums than to have a typical day job? Would be a no brainer. It's just that I'm quite concerned on the posts I've read(especially in late 2017) about people leaving their jobs for bounties. It's safe to assume that a lot of those who quit their job for shitcoin bounties and airdrops made a really bad move of leaving their jobs. Bull markets blinds some people I guess.

It's easy to forget that many people on here are in countries with either no jobs or pitifully paid jobs. If I were rotting in some backwater the opportunities available here would look extremely compelling. There are no barriers to entry. You can operate from anywhere in your own time.

I don''t blame such people at all. I'd do the same. I do wish they spouted less shite. If you do decide to go all in then you're a fool if you don't plan for whatever you're milking to come to an abrupt halt, or in the case of 'bounties' the whole lot turns out to be worthless.

If I were in such a position I would work on becoming a worthwhile and valued member first and then opportunities may arrive. Hammering it from the off is probably going to lead to oblivion.

Regardless if they're more vulnerable to FUD or not, having bounties to be your only source of income is still not a good position to be in. You'd pretty much need to trust that these two things will be fine in the long term:

1. bitcoin's price: if it does a nosedive for whatever reason and they're still holding most on bitcoin or cryptocurrencies, then you're screwed.
2. Bitcointalk: if Bitcointalk closes for some whatever reason, then you're screwed.

Having bounties as a income is great. But it shouldn't be their sole income.

Bounty hunters (most of them) only bring their shitshows to the forum; and they treat and use the forum as a free landfill for their shitposts (Proof of authentications, ie.). There is at least one another reason, beyond The forum, is scam projects nowadays mostly fail to scam investors, hence they turn into scam bounty hunters. Changes in the forum (merit system, rank requirements, demotion on Old-era Junior Members whom did not earn at least one merit) are others contributive factors. All of them, making the forum become as one of its toughest versions for bounty hunters over its ten-year history.

People made millions from bounties in 2017 but now everything changed and bounties are no longer paying anything useful for the bounty hunters so they already started to realize that bounty is not a permanent thing.

Newbie were misguided while they are registering here so if we can ban newbies from posting on bounties section can make a huge changes on forum use.

Other than the risk of promoting a scam project, they need to promote the project with some sort of decency that would attract people to want to click on their signatures.
If the need ever arises for me to use a bitcoin mixer, I'll not think twice to use chipmixer, the amount of good posters on that campaign is enormous,and they promote the project/company in "good light", and it's somewhat a sign the company itself does a good job.
We've moved from 3500 to 13000 in a matter of months, if it were to be ones only source of income, you must be driven into FUD and panic sales, and would miss out gaining big returns.
Newbies/bounty hunters need to learn this

This is what I also frequently say to those people who for some reason quit their job to focus on "bounties". Trading is another thing, but you really don't gain any sort of "experience" with bounties. Sure, you probably learn a bit when you read and post a lot, but I've always suggested people to sticking with improving their marketable skills. While doing bounties, It'd be great to learn a great modern skill like programming on the side. Just so they have something to fall under if ever bitcoin does a nosedrive.

This Welcome message from theymos makes sense. The forum is not an ATM, and users should not abuse it without any kind of contributions.

This forum is for gaining knowledge and getting assistance/solutions to cryptocurrency related issues the bounty hunting is just a minor aspect of it and anyone taking bounty hunting as a full time job is probably a newbie and will find a real job when he/she finds out that most projects are scam.

Bounty Hunters should also make research about a project before promoting it.

Indeed, we can clearly see that many peoples have taken bounties as a full-time job and they're spamming dozens of threads with their promoting/translation services without even looking or cheeking the project they're promoting. the point that you have made is very important, many of us are fascinated by the fact that many members are earning money from the forum and we want to quickly jump on the train and get a fast revenue and completely forgetting about the harm we can cause to the forum image by such acts or the amount of important knowledge we're ignoring that we can get here for free and which will eventually help us grab some beautiful littles bitcoins XD but that only should come as a natural result, not as a goal.

a proper approach should only think about this place as an education arena as you said. Looking forward to members opinions on this issue.

It's far from new to see a post/reply which culminates or summarizes this fact: "Trading full time or full time "bounties"(no real life job)".
Posts/replies such as the aforementioned go miles in misleading newbies, they are hence either hell bent on spamming the forum through bounties or forsaking real life skills to engage in trading. Such acts which in the long run poses an enormous threat to their financial development(situation)

What do you take the forum as?, a work place, a leisure centre, an education arena etc, every newbie needs to question him or herself on this.
If you take the forum as a job you need to change that mindset, or else you'll simply be struggling between meeting up with bounty requirements, you'll find it extremely difficult to read threads you do not wish to comment on(which is useful in garnering knowledge), you will simply make the required number of posts and off you go till next weeks task.
This sort of back and forth activity would lead to you gaining no knowledge, never ranking high up and miss out on discussions that matter.

The most appropriate thing to do is to get yourself a job in real life, and not depend totally on either earnings through the forum or trading.
Failure in trading when you have a real job that pays you isn't as fatal as it is when your do not, it's a blatant truth.
If you're on a bounty, it's not a license to spam the forum or limit yourself to only the specific boards for the campaign, explore your horizon, Join in discussions,read without always commenting, and in no time you'll see that you'll no longer struggle to meet up with your weekly post, and even if you don't, it's fine, it's not a job afterall.