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October 21, 2024, 12:50:48 AM
#59
Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 20, 2024, 10:28:34 AM
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 20, 2024, 01:58:32 AM
I was merely posting an example for everyone to get the context of what I was posting. Like for example, let's pretend that Peter Todd was one of the Satoshis, then when the HBO documentary announced that "Peter Todd is Satoshi", the other Satoshi would log in to BitcoinTalk and start a topic saying that "Peter Todd is not Satoshi".


I think different than you. If Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people, they don't have to do anything. Silence means any finding, any hypothesis can be wrong. If they reappear to say anything, people can know Satoshi Nakamoto are still here with us, did not die yet. Sometimes, if you try to prove something is not about you, people will have more reason to think that it is you.


I merely believe that it will be some sort of protection mechanism if one of the Satoshis were to be exposed, especially if he/she was detained by the authorities. A signed PGP message would be enough to prove that they might have the wrong person.

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That's a discussion for another topic. The other possible Satoshis that passed away were Hal Finney and Lens Sassaman. Lens Sassaman commited suicide.


I knew about Hal Finney, and knew he died with his chronic disease.
Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney)

I did not know about Lens Sassaman and honestly, I did not see anyone discuss about him in bitcointalk since 2017 before HBO movie.


Read his biography and check the date of his death. I won't say more, but something was announced by someone before he did it one month before the incident.

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October 20, 2024, 03:51:30 PM
#58
Quote from: Miles2006 on October 10, 2024, 05:47:51 PM
I actually read a different news about HBO documentation and this user advised the holding of bitcoin firmly since its guaranteed bitcoin price might increase after the revealing of Satoshi but guess what? Stories like this are false. People just voice out different opinion ever since HBO started this whole drama but it’ll be best they get little attention so we can all think proper and focus more on positive thought about bitcoin. If I should ask I had this thinking about HBO and their thought not being able to control the market now they can actually come up with something else or what’s their motive. 
Even though it shows that he predicted it because the price did really increase, it is still like an attempt to try to manipulate BTC to move in a positive direction. Even without this news, you can't never go wrong of hodling a Bitcoin because BTC can always increase on its own. No one is forced to join this trend, so we can always have our peace of mind if we choose to do so and that was better because we might have plans that are different from the crowd. HBO is just a brand and they can only accept offers from someone else, so I won't put the pressure on them.
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October 20, 2024, 10:28:34 AM
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Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 20, 2024, 01:58:32 AM
I was merely posting an example for everyone to get the context of what I was posting. Like for example, let's pretend that Peter Todd was one of the Satoshis, then when the HBO documentary announced that "Peter Todd is Satoshi", the other Satoshi would log in to BitcoinTalk and start a topic saying that "Peter Todd is not Satoshi".
I think different than you. If Satoshi Nakamoto is a group of people, they don't have to do anything. Silence means any finding, any hypothesis can be wrong. If they reappear to say anything, people can know Satoshi Nakamoto are still here with us, did not die yet. Sometimes, if you try to prove something is not about you, people will have more reason to think that it is you.

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That's a discussion for another topic. The other possible Satoshis that passed away were Hal Finney and Lens Sassaman. Lens Sassaman commited suicide.
I knew about Hal Finney, and knew he died with his chronic disease.
Bitcoin and me (Hal Finney)

I did not know about Lens Sassaman and honestly, I did not see anyone discuss about him in bitcointalk since 2017 before HBO movie.
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October 20, 2024, 01:58:32 AM
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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 19, 2024, 06:07:30 AM
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 19, 2024, 05:07:32 AM
OR, here's another hypothesis, IF Satoshi is really a group of people, THEN it would make actual sense to make everyone believe that he/she is one person and hide the fact that they are a group. And by hiding that fact, if one of the Satoshis was exposed, then the other Satoshis could merely sign a message from a key known to be associated with Satoshi or an old forum account to say That person is not Satoshi".

If it was a group of people, then there was probably two or perhaps three of them?


The hypothesis is interesting, I think it is possible, but I disagree with an action that if they are a group of people, they will need to sign a Bitcoin message to prove that anyone on media is not Satoshi Nakamoto.


I was merely posting an example for everyone to get the context of what I was posting. Like for example, let's pretend that Peter Todd was one of the Satoshis, then when the HBO documentary announced that "Peter Todd is Satoshi", the other Satoshi would log in to BitcoinTalk and start a topic saying that "Peter Todd is not Satoshi".

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If they decided to disappear, simply maintain it with time, forever, it's enough. They can let people free with speculation on who is or are Satoshi Nakamoto. Like now, with silence from Satoshi Nakamoto, there is a hypothesis that Bitcoin founder already passed away. It is an interesting hypothesis and it will be broken if Satoshi Nakamoto will be active again with a Bitcoin message or PGP message, that is unnecessary to protect Bitcoin founder anonymity.


That's a discussion for another topic. The other possible Satoshis that passed away were Hal Finney and Lens Sassaman. Lens Sassaman commited suicide.
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October 19, 2024, 11:16:50 AM
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The movie already release and thoose guy from twitter seems didn't react much he just want the engagement from the user like the other alpha on twitter the market also didn react much about it. Satoshi Nakamoto is remain anonymous I watch the movie in the conclusion they think is peter tood the real satoshi but I don't think he is satoshi too, its remain mystery.

Even tho Satoshi is here and said Hi to me and send me a couple of bitcoin I don't think the true of identity going to cracked the satoshi theory has been here for a longgg time there is bunch of person that basically said I am satoshi but the truth is we are all satoshi haha
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October 19, 2024, 06:07:30 AM
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Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 19, 2024, 05:07:32 AM
OR, here's another hypothesis, IF Satoshi is really a group of people, THEN it would make actual sense to make everyone believe that he/she is one person and hide the fact that they are a group. And by hiding that fact, if one of the Satoshis was exposed, then the other Satoshis could merely sign a message from a key known to be associated with Satoshi or an old forum account to say That person is not Satoshi".

If it was a group of people, then there was probably two or perhaps three of them?
The hypothesis is interesting, I think it is possible, but I disagree with an action that if they are a group of people, they will need to sign a Bitcoin message to prove that anyone on media is not Satoshi Nakamoto.

If they decided to disappear, simply maintain it with time, forever, it's enough. They can let people free with speculation on who is or are Satoshi Nakamoto. Like now, with silence from Satoshi Nakamoto, there is a hypothesis that Bitcoin founder already passed away. It is an interesting hypothesis and it will be broken if Satoshi Nakamoto will be active again with a Bitcoin message or PGP message, that is unnecessary to protect Bitcoin founder anonymity.
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October 19, 2024, 05:07:32 AM
#53
Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 18, 2024, 01:37:45 AM
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 17, 2024, 04:25:27 AM
Thanks for posting the link! Hal Finney was in my first of potential Satoshi candidates, the second would either be Adam Back or Lens Sassaman, then Nick Szabo. I believe that I have to change my list and remove Hal Finney and replace it with Lens Sassaman as my first, Adam Back as my second, then Nick Szabo.


People assume that Satoshi must be someone whose identity is publicly well known already but that might not be the case at all. If Satoshi cared about his privacy then he would have been careful about not using his real name anywhere and that is why nobody has been able to figure out who they were. It was much easier to hide your identity back then because there wasn’t strict KYC requirements everywhere you turn like there is today.


OR, here's another hypothesis, IF Satoshi is really a group of people, THEN it would make actual sense to make everyone believe that he/she is one person and hide the fact that they are a group. And by hiding that fact, if one of the Satoshis was exposed, then the other Satoshis could merely sign a message from a key known to be associated with Satoshi or an old forum account to say That person is not Satoshi".

If it was a group of people, then there was probably two or perhaps three of them?
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October 18, 2024, 02:04:14 AM
#52
Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on October 18, 2024, 01:37:45 AM
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 17, 2024, 04:25:27 AM
Thanks for posting the link! Hal Finney was in my first of potential Satoshi candidates, the second would either be Adam Back or Lens Sassaman, then Nick Szabo. I believe that I have to change my list and remove Hal Finney and replace it with Lens Sassaman as my first, Adam Back as my second, then Nick Szabo.

People assume that Satoshi must be someone whose identity is publicly well known already but that might not be the case at all. If Satoshi cared about his privacy then he would have been careful about not using his real name anywhere and that is why nobody has been able to figure out who they were. It was much easier to hide your identity back then because there wasn’t strict KYC requirements everywhere you turn like there is today.

Yeah, it's beneficial for him as it was said during countless threads, that, being nobody for anybody is the greatest position Satoshi can have, realistically.
Nobody wouldn't want to be bombarded with accusations and invitations to interviews. On the scale of Satoshi.
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October 18, 2024, 01:37:45 AM
#51
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 17, 2024, 04:25:27 AM
Thanks for posting the link! Hal Finney was in my first of potential Satoshi candidates, the second would either be Adam Back or Lens Sassaman, then Nick Szabo. I believe that I have to change my list and remove Hal Finney and replace it with Lens Sassaman as my first, Adam Back as my second, then Nick Szabo.

People assume that Satoshi must be someone whose identity is publicly well known already but that might not be the case at all. If Satoshi cared about his privacy then he would have been careful about not using his real name anywhere and that is why nobody has been able to figure out who they were. It was much easier to hide your identity back then because there wasn’t strict KYC requirements everywhere you turn like there is today.
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October 17, 2024, 11:18:58 PM
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News has a big influence on people’s decision-making, and it can be either positive or negative, depending on the mindset of the viewer or reader. The changes we see in the market movements suggest that people, especially active investors, tend to act too emotionally. Most of the time, when the news is negative, we see a sharp drop in prices, and when it’s positive, it soars.

This kind of behavior shows that many of us let our emotions take over instead of staying calm and rational. And that is one of the main reasons why bitcoin remains highly volatile compared to other valuable assets in the world.
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October 17, 2024, 08:50:59 PM
#49
Quote from: doomloop on October 17, 2024, 03:38:02 PM
Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.
So, it was actually the opposite thing that occurs here. Hehe, that's cool. I think it shows that people are really excited to see Satoshi even though they have this thinking that 'maybe this one is a Faketoshi again'. This was still part of entertainment. We do care about it because we talked about it here but the ones that we doesn't care about is if Satoshi will sell his coins if in case he is still alive and shows up in public because we are confident that he won't screw us. If he will really sell then that must be small amounts only, for testing purposes. No one knows the future, so who knows? Maybe Satoshi is only just around the corner and still willing to show up later on for some reasons?
Not really new anymore on which there would really be those things or those sentiments that could really be able to affect possible movement. We do know that technical analysis wont really be that precise
and could anytime will really be able going against or opposite on what you have predicted. It will really be that recommended that you should really be setting out some back up plans on the moment or time
that the market would really be going against on what you have predicted then at least you are prepared on whats coming. Be wary on what are the things that could happen around. Neither you would really be making out some reaction into it or wont really be caring at all. News could neither give out some impact or not because we do know that there's no such thing about assurance or patterns on which this market
will really be able to follow. It will really be all random and something that cant really be predicted as always.
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October 17, 2024, 03:38:02 PM
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Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.
So, it was actually the opposite thing that occurs here. Hehe, that's cool. I think it shows that people are really excited to see Satoshi even though they have this thinking that 'maybe this one is a Faketoshi again'. This was still part of entertainment. We do care about it because we talked about it here but the ones that we doesn't care about is if Satoshi will sell his coins if in case he is still alive and shows up in public because we are confident that he won't screw us. If he will really sell then that must be small amounts only, for testing purposes. No one knows the future, so who knows? Maybe Satoshi is only just around the corner and still willing to show up later on for some reasons?
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October 17, 2024, 04:25:27 AM
#47
Quote from: tranthidung on October 15, 2024, 09:12:08 AM
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 15, 2024, 01:27:33 AM
Satoshi never wanted to be found, and Satoshi has probably passed away - R.I.P. Hal Finney. Cool

With this blog post from Jameson Lopp and evidence he found and used in the post for proving Hal Finney is not Satoshi Nakamoto, I believe that Hal Finney is not. Except if Satoshi Nakamoto are more than one person and there are other people in Satoshi Nakamoto group can do emailing to Mike Hearn.

Hal Finney Was Not Satoshi Nakamoto. If Satoshi Nakamoto are not a group of people, but as a single person, he must be someone else, but not Hal Finney.


Thanks for posting the link! Hal Finney was in my first of potential Satoshi candidates, the second would either be Adam Back or Lens Sassaman, then Nick Szabo. I believe that I have to change my list and remove Hal Finney and replace it with Lens Sassaman as my first, Adam Back as my second, then Nick Szabo.

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But if Satoshi was a group of people, and that Hal Finney was one of them, then it was very smart of the group to create a situation that has an alibi. The group probably created such situations for each person in the group?
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October 15, 2024, 02:07:18 PM
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Quote from: SamReomo on October 14, 2024, 04:33:38 PM
Quote from: SmartGold01 on October 14, 2024, 09:44:30 AM
I think market have grown above being easily affected by news and of course, there are lot of people who rely on news to have their trade and to me this is just causing fud. Currently market is making wave back to 64k plus heading to 65k and this doesn't in any way affected the market so far.
This documentary was a fun experience because in the end they almost considered Peter Todd as Satoshi Nakamoto and that's absolutely horrific. He's really an awesome guy and has contributed a lot for the community but that doesn't mean someone should consider him Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi just left Bitcoin for the community and he's done that for good of Bitcoin and of it's community. Currently, Bitcoin is gaining value once again and I also believe the the documentary didn't impacted Bitcoin in anyway.
I know it would never be Satoshi nakamoto and this gullible for someone to impersonate Satoshi while he is not, I believe it's something that has created so much fear between traders investors which the price returned back to 60k and then shoot to 67k today and it's still maintaining that position, maybe before tomorrow or Friday we might see Bitcoin at 70 benchmark.

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Hal Finney Was Not Satoshi Nakamoto (https://blog.lopp.net/hal-finney-was-not-satoshi-nakamoto/). If Satoshi Nakamoto are not a group of people, but as a single person, he must be someone else, but not Hal Finney.
Don't you think if Satoshi was a group of people by now one of those people could had became Judas to betray the entire group whereby trying to reveal the identity of the entire members. So, to me I believe it's just a single individual who just decided to remain unknown, unknown seen and untraceable just for the safety of bitcoin and for bitcoin to gain legality.
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October 15, 2024, 09:12:08 AM
#45
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 15, 2024, 01:27:33 AM
Satoshi never wanted to be found, and Satoshi has probably passed away - R.I.P. Hal Finney. Cool
With this blog post from Jameson Lopp and evidence he found and used in the post for proving Hal Finney is not Satoshi Nakamoto, I believe that Hal Finney is not. Except if Satoshi Nakamoto are more than one person and there are other people in Satoshi Nakamoto group can do emailing to Mike Hearn.

Hal Finney Was Not Satoshi Nakamoto. If Satoshi Nakamoto are not a group of people, but as a single person, he must be someone else, but not Hal Finney.
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October 15, 2024, 03:20:17 AM
#44
Quote from: tabas on October 14, 2024, 05:45:55 AM
Quote from: maydna on October 14, 2024, 05:19:34 AM
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It is about to enter $65k again. We were just talking about it yesterday and now it has hit $64k. I am just happy whenever I see these movements of BTC. No rushing but we'd definitely see how it moves and skyrockets. We're at the start of the week so this could be for an entire week then when the weekend approaches, the correction might come.
Bitcoin price go up and down many times this week so there is a chance for traders to make more profit than usual. If they can analyze better about the market movement, they will find a way to enter and quit from market many times so their profit will be bigger. But yes, in the start of the week, the price gives a good movement so we can hopes that this will continue until the end of this month. But as you said that we must be careful for another correction that might come.
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October 15, 2024, 01:27:33 AM
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Quote from: tabas on October 14, 2024, 05:45:55 AM
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 14, 2024, 02:25:12 AM
Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.


That's because Peter Todd is NOT Satoshi, and another "investigative journalist" will try again to find who the "Real Satoshi" is and again like the "investigative journalist" before him, he/she will get it wrong. But by the time someone will get it right - NO ONE will care anymore!


Haha, these media know how to make people curious about the videos they make. I won't be surprised if there's a part or a sequel after several months or a year/s. AFAIK, they didn't even get the permission of Peter Todd to include him to this investigative documentary that they've made.


What I'll NOT be surprised with is the documentary was actually commissioned by BlackRock's Larry Fink himself. They probably believe that it might be a good marketing "scheme" to make a narrative that a smart/intelligent, not that old Canadian individual invented Bitcoin during his early 20s.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 14, 2024, 02:25:12 AM

Why? Because everyone, probably, has already learned and understood that there's no actual point in "Who is Satoshi", and that the actual point is "What is Bitcoin". Cool


I agree, 100%. No point in finding out who satoshi is. He's done enough and wanted to keep everything as-is and a mystery especially his/her/their identity.


Satoshi never wanted to be found, and Satoshi has probably passed away - R.I.P. Hal Finney. Cool
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October 14, 2024, 04:33:38 PM
#42
Quote from: SmartGold01 on October 14, 2024, 09:44:30 AM
I think market have grown above being easily affected by news and of course, there are lot of people who rely on news to have their trade and to me this is just causing fud. Currently market is making wave back to 64k plus heading to 65k and this doesn't in any way affected the market so far.
This documentary was a fun experience because in the end they almost considered Peter Todd as Satoshi Nakamoto and that's absolutely horrific. He's really an awesome guy and has contributed a lot for the community but that doesn't mean someone should consider him Satoshi Nakamoto. Satoshi just left Bitcoin for the community and he's done that for good of Bitcoin and of it's community. Currently, Bitcoin is gaining value once again and I also believe the the documentary didn't impacted Bitcoin in anyway.
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October 14, 2024, 10:08:37 AM
#41
Quote from: Huppercase on October 14, 2024, 09:28:06 AM
The OP is funny, what brought Bitcoin to where it's trading today is news and what can bring it lower is the same news.
What fun?

I see my warning is very helpful for newbies in this market. They are news lovers and easily affected by news. I don't need a senior member like you to see this is helpful.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 14, 2024, 02:25:12 AM
Why? Because everyone, probably, has already learned and understood that there's no actual point in "Who is Satoshi", and that the actual point is "What is Bitcoin". Cool
When they understand "What is Bitcoin", they will see no need to find or to know who is Satoshi Nakamoto. With deep understanding about Bitcoin, they will know that Satoshi Nakamoto can not do anything to stop Bitcoin network or to change its protocol, it's Bitcoin decentralized power.
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October 14, 2024, 09:44:30 AM
#40
Quote from: Oshosondy on October 09, 2024, 10:21:24 AM
That may be true and it may not be true. We might think the market would react but nothing might or might not have occurred. But it is good how Satoshi stayed unknown to people. It makes bitcoin not to be controlled like those altcoins developers have influence on the coins they created. Those that think they can reveal Satoshi are only deceiving themselves. Only what can let people know Satoshi is when Satoshi himself want people to know.
I think market have grown above being easily affected by news and of course, there are lot of people who rely on news to have their trade and to me this is just causing fud. Currently market is making wave back to 64k plus heading to 65k and this doesn't in any way affected the market so far.
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October 14, 2024, 09:28:06 AM
#39
Quote from: shield132 on October 13, 2024, 03:40:11 AM
That user created that chart to gain attention. Bitcoin is a trillion-dollar business, it can't be ruined in a single day. Anyone can make any claims but the only way to really identify Satoshi is for him to be able to sign a message from his Bitcoin wallet. Even after that, I believe that panic won't start until Satoshi moves his million Bitcoins.
Btw I always chase news in Bitcoin market because it has a significant effect on Bitcoin's price but the sad fact is that I never manage to be one of the very first few to get access to the latest news.

The OP is funny, what brought Bitcoin to where it's trading today is news and what can bring it lower is the same news. If not for the crypto news, why will traders station their selfs anytime Powell want to make any announcement, why is SEC news affecting the price of Bitcoin, some days ago they appeal to XRP case in court and the price tank immediately, that says alot about the effect of price in any coin whether it's Bitcoin or altcoins.

I think the person that created this particular chart didn't do his assignment properly, it was another news that made Bitcoin t crash like that and has nothing to do with Satoshi news or whatsoever. Even if it's Satoshi news defect, there are some people that has short that position and made some money. By the way, Bitcoin is back above that price and it's fine, so who wins? The people that sold definitely.
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October 14, 2024, 07:34:39 AM
#38
Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 09, 2024, 09:05:11 AM
It's funny that HBO movie was on air and Bitcoin was not dumped. This chart is like one for altcoins, and meme tokens, not for Bitcoin.
Market volatility is a regular process where a single piece of news can cause an asset to rise and fall again. But an investor has to take decision not only depending on the news but also considering the actual condition of the market. There may be various types of news publish about Satoshi Nakamoto and there may be rumors which may have a negative effect on the market but an investor needs to stay focused on his goals. Those who are whale investors these days can manipulate the market in many ways. So it is better policy to hold Bitcoin for long term rather than relying on news only.
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October 14, 2024, 05:45:55 AM
#37
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 14, 2024, 02:25:12 AM
Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.
That's because Peter Todd is NOT Satoshi, and another "investigative journalist" will try again to find who the "Real Satoshi" is and again like the "investigative journalist" before him, he/she will get it wrong. But by the time someone will get it right - NO ONE will care anymore!
Haha, these media know how to make people curious about the videos they make. I won't be surprised if there's a part or a sequel after several months or a year/s. AFAIK, they didn't even get the permission of Peter Todd to include him to this investigative documentary that they've made.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 14, 2024, 02:25:12 AM
Why? Because everyone, probably, has already learned and understood that there's no actual point in "Who is Satoshi", and that the actual point is "What is Bitcoin". Cool
I agree, 100%. No point in finding out who satoshi is. He's done enough and wanted to keep everything as-is and a mystery especially his/her/their identity.

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I am happy if the price stays at $60k and whether there will be some news and buzz that will try to dump the price, that's all I wanna see right now. Don't get moved with the news that will be made about it and we've been here for so long so, it's not a problem at all for those that have stayed here for so long.
Till this day, the price seems moves good not go down below $60k. The news that want to try to dump the price will still there but that will not make Bitcoin lose its power and even that will be stronger especially when more support comes and lift the price. The news will still try to influence with many bad things but we need to stay calm and not panic because that bad news will not stay forever. Once the price have a chance to increase, it will make people amaze and will start to come to Bitcoin but they seems to be late for that.
It is about to enter $65k again. We were just talking about it yesterday and now it has hit $64k. I am just happy whenever I see these movements of BTC. No rushing but we'd definitely see how it moves and skyrockets. We're at the start of the week so this could be for an entire week then when the weekend approaches, the correction might come.
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Quote from: tabas on October 13, 2024, 04:33:19 PM
Quote from: maydna on October 12, 2024, 05:29:11 AM
~snip~
I am happy if the price stays at $60k and whether there will be some news and buzz that will try to dump the price, that's all I wanna see right now. Don't get moved with the news that will be made about it and we've been here for so long so, it's not a problem at all for those that have stayed here for so long.
Till this day, the price seems moves good not go down below $60k. The news that want to try to dump the price will still there but that will not make Bitcoin lose its power and even that will be stronger especially when more support comes and lift the price. The news will still try to influence with many bad things but we need to stay calm and not panic because that bad news will not stay forever. Once the price have a chance to increase, it will make people amaze and will start to come to Bitcoin but they seems to be late for that.
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After six days the documentary was launched, there are no impact to Bitcoin price lol.

No one discuss about Satoshi, instead it's only discussed in Bitcoin forum, HBO failed to make Average Joe interested to watch their documentary and manipulating the price. They didn't prepare really well because if they're working together with Peter Todd, Todd can playing around and claim if he's the Satoshi.

But, since he already clarified if he's not Satoshi, it's done.
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Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.


That's because Peter Todd is NOT Satoshi, and another "investigative journalist" will try again to find who the "Real Satoshi" is and again like the "investigative journalist" before him, he/she will get it wrong. But by the time someone will get it right - NO ONE will care anymore!

Why? Because everyone, probably, has already learned and understood that there's no actual point in "Who is Satoshi", and that the actual point is "What is Bitcoin". Cool
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Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 09, 2024, 10:54:39 AM
X aka twitter is full of conspiracy and random person who bought blue ticker in order to be recognized by the public.
Just to add, the platform is full of scammers just like Discord and Telegram, and if you're a newbie, you might be fooled by the blue ticker symbol which can be bought by anybody including them and from there, they can just scam newbies anytime they want.

Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 13, 2024, 06:00:59 PM
At first, yes, I thought that the HBO film would shake the market price to a significant bearish but we can see that until now the price is still stable as usual, there are no signs of a strong bearish, meaning that the HBO film is not strong enough to affect the price of Bitcoin, although I saw the news that after the film was aired, the figure of Satoshi narrowed down to one name but there was no evidence at all that he was the person, meaning that the figure of Satoshi is still unknown which means that Bitcoin will remain on track.
I believe that investors now are more intelligent than ever and the more they investigate about Satoshi, the more we realize that nobody will ever know who Satoshi is/are. I didn't think that this documentary will have any effect towards the market, but it went up hours after it got released. I didn't expect a bearish movement towards the Bitcoin price because we all know that no one will ever know who Satoshi is/are. The documentary from HBO is more of like an investigation based on the evidences they claimed, and just put it on a documentary, but there are no clear proof that they know who Satoshi is/are.

Still, the identity of Satoshi is unknown and TBH, I would like it to stay like that.
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At first, yes, I thought that the HBO film would shake the market price to a significant bearish but we can see that until now the price is still stable as usual, there are no signs of a strong bearish, meaning that the HBO film is not strong enough to affect the price of Bitcoin, although I saw the news that after the film was aired, the figure of Satoshi narrowed down to one name but there was no evidence at all that he was the person, meaning that the figure of Satoshi is still unknown which means that Bitcoin will remain on track.
At first glance, of course, the news can really trigger concerns for many investors who accumulate Bitcoin, but until now I have not seen any signs in the graph and in fact from the confirmation of the formation of the trend I see that the price is now moving towards the previous resistance.
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#31
Quote from: maydna on October 12, 2024, 05:29:11 AM
Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.
We should be glad Bitcoin doesn't gets the big impact because of HBO documentary. The price now still trying to stay at the price although we see the price is up and down many times. But we don't see a down trend too deep so we should not worry too much.

But we must be careful because we don't know what will happen in the next week. Since we are in the weekend, there is a chance to see another correction coming to the market. Hopefully, the price can still be at up to $60k level and not goes down below $60k.

We must be careful with good and bad news because we don't know what is the purpose of that news. If we can stay calm with all news, we will see something behind that news so we can use that for our benefit.
I am happy if the price stays at $60k and whether there will be some news and buzz that will try to dump the price, that's all I wanna see right now. Don't get moved with the news that will be made about it and we've been here for so long so, it's not a problem at all for those that have stayed here for so long.

Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 12, 2024, 09:09:22 AM
Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively.
I don't see how I can connect price change of Bitcoin on the market as Bitcoin reaction to HBO documentary movie. If you want, you can say it is because of the movie but if you don't want, you will not agree with this thinking and no way to prove one or another thinking is true.
IMHO, typically when there are some events, news, or movies related to Bitcoin or satoshi. I guess that people have been expecting some movement from its price. And that's why I've said that there's no movement on it negatively.
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October 13, 2024, 03:40:11 AM
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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 09, 2024, 09:05:11 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto real name revealed and this X user made a chart, that Bitcoin will be dumped because of HBO movie.

You can read more in that thread, if you're curious, but again I am not making a fud here. I want to use this chart, and that fud, to warn people who chase news in this market. If they don't know about the market basics, news will make them more uncertain on what will be next market movements and what they will do next too.

It's funny that HBO movie was on air and Bitcoin was not dumped. This chart is like one for altcoins, and meme tokens, not for Bitcoin.
That user created that chart to gain attention. Bitcoin is a trillion-dollar business, it can't be ruined in a single day. Anyone can make any claims but the only way to really identify Satoshi is for him to be able to sign a message from his Bitcoin wallet. Even after that, I believe that panic won't start until Satoshi moves his million Bitcoins.
Btw I always chase news in Bitcoin market because it has a significant effect on Bitcoin's price but the sad fact is that I never manage to be one of the very first few to get access to the latest news.
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October 13, 2024, 02:10:10 AM
#29
Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 12, 2024, 09:09:22 AM
Quote from: maydna on October 12, 2024, 05:29:11 AM
~snip~
Bitcoin price is fluctuating mildly recent days and I will not attribute any price change to HBO movie. Bear market and down trend ended one year ago and we are in a bull market with a discovery phase of Bitcoin. In coming months, farther than last three months of 2024, to 2025 year, Bitcoin will make us surprise with higher prices, new ATHs, and a next year will give us many chances to take profit.

So this HBO movie means nothing to dump Bitcoin price, I have no worry.

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Yes, we will surprise of Bitcoin moving especially when the price start the bull run. That will make those who stop investing in Bitcoin regret because they don't have many Bitcoin to sell. I also not worry with anything happen out there because Bitcoin will show its power and gets more popularity. More people will come to Bitcoin because they see the advantage of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: maydna on October 12, 2024, 05:29:11 AM
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I do not see why we should be glad about it, to me this is just the way things are supposed to be, after so many years it is unlikely there will be definitive evidence about the identity of Satoshi as he made it very difficult for his identity to ever be discovered, and at least for me there was never a chance for the market to dump just because of a documentary, after all we are not on the early days of bitcoin anymore and we cannot expect any single mention of bitcoin on the mainstream media to affect its price anymore.
For daily trader, this fluctuation gives them a chance to trade over and over so they will happy to see this. They can buy low and sell high many times but they should save some portion of Bitcoin for a long term investment. That will give them more profit in the future because they prepare some Bitcoin that they will sell in the next ATH.

Finding Satoshi will be difficult because Satoshi doesn't have a track record in Internet and we don't know who he is. Those people can only guess with some proof that they found but they don't know for sure. We should let Satoshi in the dark and not trying to find Satoshi anymore.
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October 12, 2024, 05:36:54 PM
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Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 09, 2024, 10:54:39 AM
Some weak hands already sold their coins because they believe with that tweet, but guess what, after 2 hours HBO launch the documentary, Bitcoin price went rise instead of decline. There's nothing we need to worry about, even Satoshi going to jail, it didn't stop the blockchain.

X aka twitter is full of conspiracy and random person who bought blue ticker in order to be recognized by the public.

X is the worst place to get financial advice from or follow the influencer on the platform. Since Elon introduced ways of earning over there, every account now has an opinion about Bitcoin and other assets and want to tell people how to manage their portfolio. People selling because of this news are losers already because the whales and people behind this documentary have succeeded. I would not be selling regardless of what the outcome of the documentary to the market is because it would not define Bitcoin. If I still have cash left, I will be buying instead of selling. This is not the first time some people have come out to claim that they are Satoshi and this would not be the last time therefore we should not be deceived by what those behind this documentary are trying to achieve with this move.
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October 12, 2024, 02:45:34 PM
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Quote from: maydna on October 12, 2024, 05:29:11 AM
Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.
We should be glad Bitcoin doesn't gets the big impact because of HBO documentary. The price now still trying to stay at the price although we see the price is up and down many times. But we don't see a down trend too deep so we should not worry too much.

But we must be careful because we don't know what will happen in the next week. Since we are in the weekend, there is a chance to see another correction coming to the market. Hopefully, the price can still be at up to $60k level and not goes down below $60k.

We must be careful with good and bad news because we don't know what is the purpose of that news. If we can stay calm with all news, we will see something behind that news so we can use that for our benefit.
I do not see why we should be glad about it, to me this is just the way things are supposed to be, after so many years it is unlikely there will be definitive evidence about the identity of Satoshi as he made it very difficult for his identity to ever be discovered, and at least for me there was never a chance for the market to dump just because of a documentary, after all we are not on the early days of bitcoin anymore and we cannot expect any single mention of bitcoin on the mainstream media to affect its price anymore.
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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 09, 2024, 09:05:11 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto real name revealed and this X user made a chart, that Bitcoin will be dumped because of HBO movie.

You can read more in that thread, if you're curious, but again I am not making a fud here. I want to use this chart, and that fud, to warn people who chase news in this market. If they don't know about the market basics, news will make them more uncertain on what will be next market movements and what they will do next too.

It's funny that HBO movie was on air and Bitcoin was not dumped. This chart is like one for altcoins, and meme tokens, not for Bitcoin.

I think it's because you didn't follow the news that's why you didn't know exactly what happened in that chat. Actually, it wasn't the HBO news that pump Bitcoin, it was already trading around therr  couple with the fact that inflation was already in the news that's why Bitcoin was bullish on the short term horizone and when it was later announced that FBI chased some market makers that were responsible for market manipulation and Bitcoin price drop because the of that news.

You can't take away news from trading, it's one of the fundamentals of trading and it's an analysis for traders to make money. Without news, there wouldn't be movement in the chat and without it there wouldn't be technical analysis. Remember that it's news that move Bitcoin, if today Trump is announce to have win US election, it will make Bitcoin price to run like crazy.
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Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively.
I don't see how I can connect price change of Bitcoin on the market as Bitcoin reaction to HBO documentary movie. If you want, you can say it is because of the movie but if you don't want, you will not agree with this thinking and no way to prove one or another thinking is true.

Quote from: maydna on October 12, 2024, 05:29:11 AM
We should be glad Bitcoin doesn't gets the big impact because of HBO documentary. The price now still trying to stay at the price although we see the price is up and down many times. But we don't see a down trend too deep so we should not worry too much.
Bitcoin price is fluctuating mildly recent days and I will not attribute any price change to HBO movie. Bear market and down trend ended one year ago and we are in a bull market with a discovery phase of Bitcoin. In coming months, farther than last three months of 2024, to 2025 year, Bitcoin will make us surprise with higher prices, new ATHs, and a next year will give us many chances to take profit.

So this HBO movie means nothing to dump Bitcoin price, I have no worry.

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October 12, 2024, 08:23:49 AM
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Every news related to crypto people panic and sell or buy bitcoins because they want to get a ride with the volatility after the movie releases the market dump but of course, there's an active trader who will catch the market and wait for accumulation they will bring back again the market to its normal price, only paper hands will sell with this market pressure and people who trust the bitcoin will catch its button like recently one of the best way if you don't have time to trade is the DCA and wait for the 2025 bull run. It seems short hand trades for the news like this that you must watch possibility if the huge price movement.
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#23
Quote from: tabas on October 12, 2024, 02:31:57 AM
That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.
We should be glad Bitcoin doesn't gets the big impact because of HBO documentary. The price now still trying to stay at the price although we see the price is up and down many times. But we don't see a down trend too deep so we should not worry too much.

But we must be careful because we don't know what will happen in the next week. Since we are in the weekend, there is a chance to see another correction coming to the market. Hopefully, the price can still be at up to $60k level and not goes down below $60k.

We must be careful with good and bad news because we don't know what is the purpose of that news. If we can stay calm with all news, we will see something behind that news so we can use that for our benefit.
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That HBO documentary seems to be a flop. As we can see with the price of BTC, there's a bit of reaction but it didn't move negatively. Well, it has pumped to $66k for last month but then corrected for a while and now it's on its way back there. So, with that assumption that the price of BTC will decrease a lot because of that show, looks like no one cares at all with all of these media produced documentaries revealing who satoshi is because everybody knows that satoshi will never appear in the public anymore and all they have are hypotheses.
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Quote from: Marvell1 on October 11, 2024, 08:05:05 AM
Why is Bitcoin being dumped over a trashy HBO movie?
I did not say it and I emphasized that Bitcoin is not a pump and dump coin like altcoins, shitcoins and meme tokens.

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Even the FBI has been investigating Satoshi's identity since 2010 and they have failed so far, so it's ridiculous that HBO knows about it.
I didn't know that FBI did it. I only knew that after Satoshi Nakamoto informed Gavin Andresen about his plan of disappearance, then actually disappeared, Gavin Andresen was invited to visit CIA for a presentation on Bitcoin.
Gavin will visit the CIA
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Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 09, 2024, 09:05:11 AM

It's funny that HBO movie was on air and Bitcoin was not dumped. This chart is like one for altcoins, and meme tokens, not for Bitcoin.


Why is Bitcoin being dumped over a trashy HBO movie? What I see is that they are just trying to create Fud by making the baseless conclusion that Satoshi is Peter Todd, a living person and they are just trying to create Fud that Satoshi can sell his bitcoins at any time.
Honestly, I haven't even watched this movie because I was convinced from the start that they were just talking nonsense. Even the FBI has been investigating Satoshi's identity since 2010 and they have failed so far, so it's ridiculous that HBO knows about it.


By the way, this chart has nothing to do with altcoins or memes as the HBO documentary never mentioned or had any connection to them. We also don't need to use this news to mock altcoins because not all altcoins are scams and have such charts.
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October 11, 2024, 06:48:16 AM
#19
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 11, 2024, 02:58:01 AM
Plus anyone could post a chart and put some text of "cause of dump here" from the moment the price started going down. It could be Israel invading part of Lebanon, it could be something that a politician said, it could be any narrative they want.
Narratives used by Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan and Bitcoin ignored his fud to continue its growth with time.

Jamie Dimon is a famous person but I did not know about the X user with that post. If people can believe in a X user like this, they deserve to lose money.

Dimon’s many regrets about Bitcoin.

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But what we should actually be doing is keep looking for ways to earn more fiat, and buy those small DIPs and get more units of Bitcoin for the same amount of fiat.
With knowledge about Bitcoin, we will have stronger belief in its future, and we will take Bitcoin dips for purchasing and accumulating more bitcoin with same capital.
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#18
Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 10, 2024, 12:36:02 PM
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 10, 2024, 06:47:35 AM
OP, if that's the actual reason, OK. The market probably doesn't like Peter Todd to be Satoshi Nakamoto. But what if in a few days Bitcoin started surging? Does that tell us that the market changed its mind and has started to like Peter Todd as Satoshi?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We're probably fooled by randomness, no?
I created this topic, not to fud, but to give people especially newbies a warning that they must be more cautious and careful with random news and price prediction like this.

Price will rise or fall, pump or dump, who can know it with 100% accuracy. And a dumping chart like this does not fit for Bitcoin that is not a dump coin like altcoins and meme tokens.


Plus anyone could post a chart and put some text of "cause of dump here" from the moment the price started going down. It could be Israel invading part of Lebanon, it could be something that a politician said, it could be any narrative they want.

But what we should actually be doing is keep looking for ways to earn more fiat, and buy those small DIPs and get more units of Bitcoin for the same amount of fiat.
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October 10, 2024, 05:47:51 PM
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I actually read a different news about HBO documentation and this user advised the holding of bitcoin firmly since its guaranteed bitcoin price might increase after the revealing of Satoshi but guess what? Stories like this are false. People just voice out different opinion ever since HBO started this whole drama but it’ll be best they get little attention so we can all think proper and focus more on positive thought about bitcoin. If I should ask I had this thinking about HBO and their thought not being able to control the market now they can actually come up with something else or what’s their motive. 
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October 10, 2024, 04:31:22 PM
#16
Like everyone else said, real satoshi will not be named, and HBO is lying, and they did not find who the real satoshi is, and this is why the price will not crash. Hell the price wouldn't crash that much even if they did, Satoshi would have to sell his million or something to make it go down, but at the same time satoshi coins are burned out and gone, so even if they found satoshi, even he wouldn't be able to sell it, but that's irrelevant because they didn't.

Everyone already knows this, and this "it is not fud" but it's fud thing is old school and annoying, this isn't aimed at anything but creating fud and it will fail because it will not cause any fud at all. Trying to find some conspiracy to make the price go down so you could get some clicks is something people used to do back in the day and the yare still doing it and it's becoming annoying to me. I believe we shouldn't be falling for these kinds of tricks and should be checking only the truth.
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October 10, 2024, 03:39:05 PM
#15
This ridiculous documentary about revealing the real Satoshi is just a tempest in a teacup for publicity, to gain some fame and perhaps to manipulate the market.

But as it turns out, they failed miserably. The makers of the documentary achieved nothing but disappointment and shame because the result was ridiculous. The film was widely condemned by the Bitcoin community, with some describing it as “disgusting” and not based on solid facts. HBO lost some of its credibility as a result of showing the film.

It is also clear that the market was not affected by this alleged film, which received much more attention than it deserved.
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October 10, 2024, 02:43:38 PM
#14
Well, after a news that almost skipped my heart in 2022, I just learned not to even allow any sudden news have any impact on me unless I have very it to be true. That 2022, there's a news that real Satoshi has been discovered and that it's going to be an end for Bitcoin. What came to my mind after that news was that, "does it means that the era of crypto has come to and end?" Because I know that if any happens to Bitcoin today, it's going down with every other crypto unless the ones that will be highly regulated by the Fed.
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October 10, 2024, 12:55:55 PM
#13

There's got to be something behind this documentary, HBO is a big company with a reputation and they just convince the channel to publish such a documentary without verifying what is said inside that film. We already know Craig Wright had been claiming shit back then and I suppose the man had fooled some people at least some believe in that BSV that is still alive today.

Whichever the trend goes when the film is released, there has got to be some purpose for publishing this. Otherwise, they are just completely disappointing people adding to the distrust that younger people feel about mainstream media

But that chart could be true actually, Satoshi being revealed could mean his coins are at risk.
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October 10, 2024, 12:36:02 PM
#12
Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 10, 2024, 06:47:35 AM
OP, if that's the actual reason, OK. The market probably doesn't like Peter Todd to be Satoshi Nakamoto. But what if in a few days Bitcoin started surging? Does that tell us that the market changed its mind and has started to like Peter Todd as Satoshi?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We're probably fooled by randomness, no?
I created this topic, not to fud, but to give people especially newbies a warning that they must be more cautious and careful with random news and price prediction like this.

Price will rise or fall, pump or dump, who can know it with 100% accuracy. And a dumping chart like this does not fit for Bitcoin that is not a dump coin like altcoins and meme tokens.

Quote from: logfiles on October 09, 2024, 06:15:18 PM
I really wonder who could easily get fooled by the documentary. I haven't watched it yet.
If they are fooled by information in the documentary film, it's not bad but the bad thing is if they are fooled by posts on X like one shared in OP. It is more related to their money and action with their money. You can read or watch whatever things for fun and entertainment or curiosity, but if you let them affecting your decisions, it's bad because you will lose your money by emotional bad actions.
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October 10, 2024, 12:23:09 PM
#11
Quote from: logfiles on October 09, 2024, 06:15:18 PM
I really wonder who could easily get fooled by the documentary. I haven't watched it yet. Maybe I will just watch it for fun, but if they can't even get to the  most important thing such as signing a bitcoin message from one of those Satoshi related addresses, then the documentary is as good as useless.
Perhaps they just created it with hope they will get viewship from clueless users or even try to manipulate the market, but that is not going to happen from the look of things.
The cryptocurrency market and its investors, specifically Bitcoin investors, have matured to some extent now, and unlike old times, such things don't affect the market too much because people, at least the majority of them, understand that these are nothing but tactics to spread FUD and disturb the flow of the market. Who knows what the motive of its creators is behind it, maybe you are right that they have thought since Bitcoin is a trending topic these days, the documentary will garner a lot of views.

I am sure a lot of people must have sold their holdings only after reading such tweets and posts from people, but those are people new in the market because someone who has spent some time in the market would know such things are not going to affect the market in the long run and there is no point in selling because of these.
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October 10, 2024, 06:47:35 AM
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OP, if that's the actual reason, OK. The market probably doesn't like Peter Todd to be Satoshi Nakamoto. But what if in a few days Bitcoin started surging? Does that tell us that the market changed its mind and has started to like Peter Todd as Satoshi?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We're probably fooled by randomness, no?
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October 09, 2024, 06:32:44 PM
#9
Quote from: tbct_mt2 on October 09, 2024, 09:05:11 AM
Satoshi Nakamoto real name revealed and this X user made a chart, that Bitcoin will be dumped because of HBO movie.

You can read more in that thread, if you're curious, but again I am not making a fud here. I want to use this chart, and that fud, to warn people who chase news in this market. If they don't know about the market basics, news will make them more uncertain on what will be next market movements and what they will do next too.

It's funny that HBO movie was on air and Bitcoin was not dumped. This chart is like one for altcoins, and meme tokens, not for Bitcoin.
I have struggled to read your post as something that is not fud but no matter how I try, the post kept coming to me like a fud. What the who things is all about is like setting the stage for the bull run. In trading, I was thought to act against the retail traders and follow the big money who feed the people with news that will make them panic while they plan to do the opposite of the retail traders. So the HBO drama might just be a way of instigating the weak hands to act irrationally so that they can collect their Bitcoin before pumping the price to high heavens. My simple advice, hold on to your dear BTC.
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October 09, 2024, 06:15:18 PM
#8
I really wonder who could easily get fooled by the documentary. I haven't watched it yet. Maybe I will just watch it for fun, but if they can't even get to the  most important thing such as signing a bitcoin message from one of those Satoshi related addresses, then the documentary is as good as useless.
Perhaps they just created it with hope they will get viewship from clueless users or even try to manipulate the market, but that is not going to happen from the look of things.
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October 09, 2024, 04:53:43 PM
#7
Quote from: Plaguedeath on October 09, 2024, 10:54:39 AM
Some weak hands already sold their coins because they believe with that tweet, but guess what, after 2 hours HBO launch the documentary, Bitcoin price went rise instead of decline. There's nothing we need to worry about, even Satoshi going to jail, it didn't stop the blockchain.

X aka twitter is full of conspiracy and random person who bought blue ticker in order to be recognized by the public.


Ultimately the bitcoin community and holders are not as weak as those who believe in the film think. And I think now we no longer consider anything important other than the bitcoin system which creates freedom and transparency in the world of digital finance. Everyone is more focused on the decentralized system which has managed to amaze everyone who studies it. And even in this forum we don't even talk much about who the real person behind the name of Bitcoin's creator is. But talking about the Bitcoin system itself is much more interesting to talk about and has created more topics that are discussed at length here.
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October 09, 2024, 04:19:53 PM
#6
Quote from: Oshosondy on October 09, 2024, 10:21:24 AM
That may be true and it may not be true. We might think the market would react but nothing might or might not have occurred. But it is good how Satoshi stayed unknown to people. It makes bitcoin not to be controlled like those altcoins developers have influence on the coins they created. Those that think they can reveal Satoshi are only deceiving themselves. Only what can let people know Satoshi is when Satoshi himself want people to know.

The market reaction will seriously depend on the type of news because bitcoin market isn’t like other Altcoins that can be easily manipulated, you the market sentiment or rather people sentiment to change to have a change in the market, so even if Satoshi is to be announced today it will depend on how the bitcoin community responds to the message. Funny enough Satoshi is looking more sacred that even if he comes out to announce himself people will still regard him as fakestoshi. The market reaction today signifies that it is the community that actually controls the market majorly even if there is manipulation it is very low that it can be ignored
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October 09, 2024, 12:20:49 PM
#5
While I am not a very smart person, even I found so many mistakes in the thinking that went to this tweet chain. Some people just want clicks and they write clickbait stuff to convince you and people do read it, hell I read it now.

But we give them what they want when do it, we do not have to argue against them, they don't care, they do not want to be right, I mean it would be lovely if they were right and get clicked at the same time, but they just want the clicks, the rest is a bonus. Believe me, nothing like this will happen, the price will not move much, there will be some lies about it in the doc, and we are going to see people prove why it's wrong and we will move on with our lives like that documentary never happened to begin with.
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October 09, 2024, 10:54:39 AM
#4
Some weak hands already sold their coins because they believe with that tweet, but guess what, after 2 hours HBO launch the documentary, Bitcoin price went rise instead of decline. There's nothing we need to worry about, even Satoshi going to jail, it didn't stop the blockchain.

X aka twitter is full of conspiracy and random person who bought blue ticker in order to be recognized by the public.

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October 09, 2024, 10:21:24 AM
#3
Quote from: OmegaStarScream on October 09, 2024, 09:25:07 AM
I'm pretty sure the markets would've reacted somehow (depending on the person, still alive or not, etc.) if there was at least some sort of proper evidence which doesn't seem to be the case here at all from what I read on X.
That may be true and it may not be true. We might think the market would react but nothing might or might not have occurred. But it is good how Satoshi stayed unknown to people. It makes bitcoin not to be controlled like those altcoins developers have influence on the coins they created. Those that think they can reveal Satoshi are only deceiving themselves. Only what can let people know Satoshi is when Satoshi himself want people to know.
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October 09, 2024, 09:25:07 AM
#2
I'm pretty sure the markets would've reacted somehow (depending on the person, still alive or not, etc.) if there was at least some sort of proper evidence which doesn't seem to be the case here at all from what I read on X.
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October 09, 2024, 09:05:11 AM
#1
Satoshi Nakamoto real name revealed and this X user made a chart, that Bitcoin will be dumped because of HBO movie.

You can read more in that thread, if you're curious, but again I am not making a fud here. I want to use this chart, and that fud, to warn people who chase news in this market. If they don't know about the market basics, news will make them more uncertain on what will be next market movements and what they will do next too.

It's funny that HBO movie was on air and Bitcoin was not dumped. This chart is like one for altcoins, and meme tokens, not for Bitcoin.
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