It's NOT the Miners. It's NOT the Developers. USERS will decide the winner.. ;)

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Quote from: felipehermanns on April 05, 2017, 10:35:53 AM

I am really amazed that the BU paid guys didn't show up in this topic with huge technical text info about BUg chinese coin

MY BAD. Saw one up there. franky dude Grin

your reddit scripts are old.
by the way i know your hoping to kiss gmaxwells ass in the hopes for some of those $70m+ fiat bank notes
but here is the thing

1. unlike your 'people are paid' mindset, people dont get paid to post their own opinion
2. you may hope people do get paid because you are hoping to get paid. but other people post because they actually like bitcoins ethos and dont want to see a corporate takeover by core/bockstream/dcg
3. bitcoin should remain a divers decentralised network of many implementations.. not one. BU for instance want a diverse PEER network. core want a core centered TIER network.
4. core are in DEBT to a tune of $70m. that money needs to be repaid. so forget ever getting a payday for kissing ass

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I am really amazed that the BU paid guys didn't show up in this topic with huge technical text info about BUg chinese coin

MY BAD. Saw one up there. franky dude Grin

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Quote from: lurker10 on April 05, 2017, 08:52:11 AM

Who can trust polls after Hillary lost when all polls said she must win?

Must or will win? Roll Eyes

Quote from: lurker10 on April 05, 2017, 08:52:11 AM

Every single important poll is paid for by lobbyists. Bitcoin polls is no better than polls on politicians.

Can you show me proof if those lobbyists bribed the Bitcoin community? I think you're talking FUD.

Quote from: lurker10 on April 05, 2017, 08:52:11 AM

Luckily Bitcoin has a built-in voting mechanism, called hashrate.

The market doesn't want to see mining become to much centralised, lets stay Bitcoin decentralised as possible ok?

I got another poll from the community which i think you will not like it Undecided

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Quote from: Paashaas on April 05, 2017, 08:48:47 AM

Quote from: Iranus on April 05, 2017, 08:39:29 AM

This only actually applies in the event of a hard fork. If a hard fork happens, then we'll have the clear lines drawn up between different camps to make our decision. Right now, our only real power is our potential power in the future (if the BU camp knows that no users will use the new coin, they would mostly give up).

Right now, the miners have the power. Ironically, while BU supposedly wants to give miners power, we could take it all away from them if a fork actually happened and go back to BTC from BTU.

Those ''miners'' are just a few anoying flyz with way to many hashing power, i got another poll which shows uss the market wants Segwit NOT BU. Undecided

I agree. A few mining pools do control a disproportionate hashrate. But this would not necessarily mean that they would not vote for BU.

If enough mining pools agreed with BU, and a hard fork acted based on a very slim majority (which is possible), it would then be up to the market. Until then, our only power is to talk about the power we'll have.

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Who can trust polls after Hillary lost when all polls said she must win?

In votes, she did win. The polls were a couple of percent off, but they were right that Hillary received more votes, it's just that Trump won through the electoral college. Hash rate, on the other hand, is hugely inaccurate all of the time. It's right that the hash rate decides what protocol changes go through, but their adoption will only be from the users.

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Who can trust polls after Hillary lost when all polls said she must win?
Every single important poll is paid for by lobbyists. Bitcoin polls is no better than polls on politicians.

Luckily Bitcoin has a built-in voting mechanism, called hashrate.

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Quote from: Iranus on April 05, 2017, 08:39:29 AM

This only actually applies in the event of a hard fork. If a hard fork happens, then we'll have the clear lines drawn up between different camps to make our decision. Right now, our only real power is our potential power in the future (if the BU camp knows that no users will use the new coin, they would mostly give up).

Right now, the miners have the power. Ironically, while BU supposedly wants to give miners power, we could take it all away from them if a fork actually happened and go back to BTC from BTU.

Those ''miners'' are just a few anoying flyz with way to many hashing power, i got another poll which shows uss the market wants Segwit NOT BU. Undecided

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This only actually applies in the event of a hard fork. If a hard fork happens, then we'll have the clear lines drawn up between different camps to make our decision. Right now, our only real power is our potential power in the future (if the BU camp knows that no users will use the new coin, they would mostly give up).

Right now, the miners have the power. Ironically, while BU supposedly wants to give miners power, we could take it all away from them if a fork actually happened and go back to BTC from BTU.

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Quote from: spartacusrex on April 05, 2017, 08:11:56 AM

Quote from: franky1 on April 05, 2017, 07:26:07 AM

hypocrit.

learn to spell.

Quote from: franky1 on April 05, 2017, 07:26:07 AM

all the decentralised open real consensus options are not setting deadlines, not making stupid banscore code and not threatening with PoW nukes.

learn to read.

Quote from: franky1 on April 05, 2017, 07:26:07 AM

consensus means let the community decide and then activate once decided.. not the other way round

Says who ?..

(..the community has decided.. you just weren't invited to that meeting.. )

what you need to realise is no decision has been made.. otherwise things would be activating.

as for meeting?
you really think 6000-2million+ people went to a meeting. Pfft
learn real consensus. not the DCG puppetmasters closed door centralist circle jerking event they do a few times a year

no victor (of the real community consensus) has been decided yet. which is why nothing has happened.

what should now happen is that core not put in mandatory activation. but realise they didnt get the decision. and instead think of doing something different and having features the community would happily decide on.

none of this. year to vote and no matter what the vote is, its then forced through into activating, bull crap

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Quote from: franky1 on April 05, 2017, 07:26:07 AM

hypocrit.

learn to spell.

Quote from: franky1 on April 05, 2017, 07:26:07 AM

all the decentralised open real consensus options are not setting deadlines, not making stupid banscore code and not threatening with PoW nukes.

learn to read.

Quote from: franky1 on April 05, 2017, 07:26:07 AM

consensus means let the community decide and then activate once decided.. not the other way round

Says who ?..

(..the community has decided.. you just weren't invited to that meeting.. )

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1. "OMG they wanna split the network that is dangerous"
2. "fork already im dying of boredom"

hypocrit.

all the decentralised open real consensus options are not setting deadlines, not making stupid banscore code and not threatening with PoW nukes.
consensus means let the community decide and then activate once decided.. not the other way round

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Quote from: spartacusrex on April 05, 2017, 06:38:35 AM

You do have valid points, however, this is not going to happen.
And you know why? It's because they (devs, miners, name it) want to make sure the users go with them. They want to make sure their coin will inherit the price of Bitcoin. They want to make sure they will be in control of the valuable thing.

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Quote from: Dorky on April 05, 2017, 06:48:48 AM

Quote from: spartacusrex on April 05, 2017, 06:46:56 AM

Yippee!! (..never happen)

Life is such that sometimes things will happen when you least expect it.

There is a high possibility that both coins will increase in value and it is not impossible since bitcoin has already made a name. Even shitcoins in the cryptomarket has a value how much bitcoin in two forms one coming from the core developers and one coming from bitcoin unlimited. Whatever the case its like what the author said it will be the users and investors who will decide its value.

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Quote from: spartacusrex on April 05, 2017, 06:46:56 AM

Yippee!! (..never happen)

Life is such that sometimes things will happen when you least expect it.

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Quote from: Dorky on April 05, 2017, 06:40:42 AM

What if both coins will go up in price?

Yippee!! (..never happen)

Quote from: gentlemand on April 05, 2017, 06:41:32 AM

I think we should ask Papa Smurf to decide. He seems very wise.

If he uses BTC - he'll get his say.

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Judging by the standard of discourse, I'm not so sure the users are to be depended on to make a decision either. And the people who control the price are the big traders, there probably aren't very many of them and for most the only thing they're interested is the most money.

I think we should ask Papa Smurf to decide. He seems very wise.

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What if both coins will go up in price?

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Please no chat about who is right - BU or CORE. We've had that discussion 1 million times.. (Feels like more actually)

There are now 2 camps, with big red lines drawn up.

So.. GET ON WITH IT.

We're so 'scared' about what might happen - that we have forgotten that blockchains FIX THIS EXACT PROBLEM.

BU should fork - pick a block number and get on with it.

CORE should fork - pick a block number and get on with it.

THEN - finally - WE THE USERS will get to choose, by buying and selling on the exchanges and using the coins - who is the REAL bitcoin, and who is.. dead. Lol.. no, both coins may survive, ETC is still ticking, BUT - WE THE USERS will decide which one is the dominant coin.

Not the Miners. (Who cares if your hash rate is high if the users are using a different coin)

Not the Developers. (You can bring a horse to water..)

It will be US. The USERS.

This is good news..

So lets DO. IT.

ASAP (..before we all die of old age.. and boredom.. or worse .. LTC..)

Grin

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