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Topic: January 31st, Will China ban exchanger's bank transfers funding methods? (Read 3270 times)

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Relax.  Mining Btcs is a $1 Billion dollar per year industry and will be dominated by the Chinese.  This thing is far from being banned by the Chinese government. They'll say: "Unbelievable, we actually control seigniorage for digital gold, which no one can duplicate.  Woohoo!"
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The Chinese own between 65 and 80% of all Bitcoins! If they dump, it is the end of bitcoin!

I doubt you have even the slightest shred of evidence to back this up.  Like many others, I too am tired of your BS.  I'm adding you to my ignore list, hopefully everyone else does too and you can sit there in mute land ranting to yourself like so many others of your calibre do in mental institutions.

I cannot confirm. Using the ignore function is for fascists only.
If the chinese dump (sell XBT at low market prices) those coins will be much appreciated by buyers only waiting for this to happen Wink

And your assumption about the chinese holding 65% to 80% is completely off... Wink (ok, I can't counter proove this, you got me there)
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Using the ignore function is for fascists only.

Another fascinating opinion from one of the world's great minds.

Believe it or not, this forum actually used to have some intelligence to it. 
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The Chinese own between 65 and 80% of all Bitcoins! If they dump, it is the end of bitcoin!

I doubt you have even the slightest shred of evidence to back this up.  Like many others, I too am tired of your BS.  I'm adding you to my ignore list, hopefully everyone else does too and you can sit there in mute land ranting to yourself like so many others of your calibre do in mental institutions.

I cannot confirm. Using the ignore function is for fascists only.
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The Chinese own between 65 and 80% of all Bitcoins! If they dump, it is the end of bitcoin!

I doubt you have even the slightest shred of evidence to back this up.  Like many others, I too am tired of your BS.  I'm adding you to my ignore list, hopefully everyone else does too and you can sit there in mute land ranting to yourself like so many others of your calibre do in mental institutions.
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Here's the real reason why China is suspending bank withdrawals from Jan. 31st - Feb. 7th :

http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2014/01/29/shadow-banking-chinas-wobbly-house-of-cards/

"Among the many issues raised by this episode, two deserve special attention. The first is the hitherto undisclosed risks in China's shadow banking sector, which is estimated to have $6 trillion in outstanding loans. The second is the increased likelihood of a major default in the very near future."

The PBOC is saying they are suspending bank and ATM operations due to "system maintenance."  Yeah, riiiight.  Just like in June 2013, and Dec. 2013.  Wink

So they are having a liquidity crisis.  Yes, it will affect Chinese wanting to buy bitcoin during that time.  No, it really has nothing to do with bitcoin per se. When you have a chinese Shadow banking system that is basically one big Ponzi Scheme, bad things are going to start happening.   January 31st marks the start of when banks have to start "paying the piper", i.e. the Chinese investors.  And the Chinese government has known about this upcoming crisis since last year.
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Bitcoin will survive and the price will rise with or without China! Who cares about China? They banned it before and the prices are still high! Bitcoin is the future and China now that! At first they will ban it, than they will accept it. i'm sure this will happen soon or later.

Until the 5th February the price of BTC will be the same or higher. Mark my words...
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I think you highlighted the wrong text.

This:
 
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may not act as a central counterparty in Bitcoin trading
looks more relevant.


That just means banks cannot themselves be an exchange.  

Edit: Actually, you may be right as far as clarity goes, perhaps "not act[ing] as a central counterparty" is more clear; banks cannot act as a "middleman" between exchanges and customers. 

Great point, thanks.
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I think you highlighted the wrong text.

This:
 
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may not act as a central counterparty in Bitcoin trading
looks more relevant.
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Technically banks already can't provide services to exchanges.

According to the People's Bank of China Official Bitcoin Notice:

"Financial and payment institutions may not use Bitcoin pricing for products or services, may not buy or sell Bitcoins, may not act as a central counterparty in Bitcoin trading, may not offer insurance products associated with Bitcoin, may not provide direct or indirect Bitcoin-related services to customers, including: registering, trading, settling, clearing or other services; accepting Bitcoin or use of Bitcoin as a clearing tool; trading Bitcoin with CNY or foreign currencies; storing, escrowing, and mortgaging in Bitcoin; issuing Bitcoin-related financial products; and using Bitcoin as a means of investment for trusts and funds."

http://www.pbc.gov.cn/publish/goutongjiaoliu/524/2013/20131205153156832222251/20131205153156832222251_.html

Good English Translation here

https://vip.btcchina.com/page/bocnotice2013
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I bought more today, I bought yesterday, and the day before as well...

I have no intention of selling, if BTC goes to $100 I will buy as many as I can afford as quickly as I can.

If I have to wait 5 years for a recovery I'll happily do so buying all along the way. I'm not alone...

Me too. If Bitcoin gets near $50-$100, I will buy in bulk.

Bitcoin today is more stable then many other currencies.

Bitcoin cannot be printed in bulk to masquerade huge debts and other problems.
Can be mined only slowly and in predictable quantity. USD and EUR can be printed infinitely. Increase money supply by 20% overnight? No problem. Government can dump tons of money to market when you do not expect it. They can even steal your money. Like bank "taxation" on Cyprus.

Bitcoin is bit less stable than major fiat currencies.

USD is held by military power, but Russia and China and India is growing stronger. Not defensible in the long term.
EUR has problems with weak and bankrupting countries (Greece, ...). Not stable in the long term.

USD and EUR may become less stable than Bitcoin soon. Then lot of people in USA and EU will prefer bitcoin over USD and EUR. Everybody wants bitcoin and not EUR or USD. Demand of bitcoin rises, price also.
Dependent on point of view, the bitcoin value would skyrocket, or EUR and USD value would plummet to the ground.
Same thing, just viewed diferently.
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If I have to wait 5 years for a recovery I'll happily do so buying all along the way. I'm not alone...

Man, we will be dead by then. You need to shotr now and enjoy your profits during these last years.

You never know...

You can't control everything in life. An asteroid could hit the Earth for all we can predict.

I'll enjoy the ride wherever it takes me. The way I see it; even in the worst case I've only lost USD which is about to be worthless in a few years anyways. To me the risk is nearly equal that one may collapse as opposed to the other. Let's face it, the US military can't hold up the dollar forever. The playing field is just too large and it's been a fool's errand from the start.
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So in relation to the question posed by the thread the title the answer is yes, China will ban transfers to Bitcoin exchanges. However they're also banning all types of transfers everywhere for at least three days  Shocked
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stop joking people, it becomes miserable

price  will recover soon with china or not
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CHINA IS BANNING ALL TRANSFERS TO EVERYWHERE ON JANUARY 31!!!

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China Halts Bank Cash Transfers

The People’s Bank of China , the central bank, has just ordered commercial banks to halt cash transfers.

This notice, for instance, appears on the online portal for Citigroup's C -2.74% Citibank unit for its China customers:

Important Notice:

1. Due to the system maintenance of People’s Bank of China, Domestic RMB Fund Transfer through Citibank (China) Online and Citi Mobile will be delayed during January 30th 2014, 16:00pm to February 2nd 2014, 18:30pm. As to the fund availability at the receiving bank, it depends on the processing requirements and turnaround time of the receiving bank. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

2. During Spring Festival, Foreign Currency Transfer Transaction through Citibank (China) Online and Citi Mobile will be temporally not available from January 30, 2014 18:00pm to February 7, 2014 09:00am. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

If you have any enquiries, please reach us via our 24-hour banking hotline at 800-830-1880 or credit card hotline at 400-821-1880. If you are calling from other parts of the world, please reach us at 86-20-38801267 for banking services or 86-21-38969500 for credit card services.

In short, there will be a three-day suspension of domestic renminbi transfers.  There will also be a suspension, spanning nine calendar days, of conversions of renminbi to foreign currency.

The specific reason given—“system maintenance” at the central bank—is preposterous.  It is not credible that during the highest usage period in the year—the weeklong Lunar New Year holiday beginning January 31—the central bank would schedule an upgrade and shut down cash transfers.

A better explanation is that the country’s banking system is running dry.  Yes, there is an increased need for money in the run-up to and during the Lunar New Year holiday, but that is only a small factor.  After all, central bank officials knew this spike in demand was coming—it occurs every year at this time—and a core function of central banks is to manage seasonal liquidity fluctuations.  Moreover, the holiday has not started yet, and the PBOC, as that institution is known, could have added more liquidity to meet cash needs.

So what’s really going on?  This crunch follows similar incidents in June and December of last year.  In June, for instance, the central bank used the excuse of a “system upgrade” to allow banks to shut down their ATMs and online banking platforms.  As a result, they conserved cash and thereby avoided a nationwide meltdown.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonchang/2014/01/26/china-halts-bank-cash-transfers-2/


Who wants to be left holding renminbi that can't be transferred???

At least Bitcoin transfers are not going to halted after January 31st
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If I have to wait 5 years for a recovery I'll happily do so buying all along the way. I'm not alone...

Man, we will be dead by then. You need to shotr now and enjoy your profits during these last years.
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I bought more today, I bought yesterday, and the day before as well...

I have no intention of selling, if BTC goes to $100 I will buy as many as I can afford as quickly as I can.

If I have to wait 5 years for a recovery I'll happily do so buying all along the way. I'm not alone...
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I know a lot of people that are ready to make some money on jan 31.  Tongue
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did you guys read the quotes from the miami conference? what do you think? is that all bullshit?

It is not bullshit.  It's already been confirmed and it is bad news.  This is way the price is crashing today.
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did you guys read the quotes from the miami conference? what do you think? is that all bullshit?
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This forum is becoming a joke..

The flood of new users posting confirmed bad news sources is a reason for optimism about this forum, as it demonstrated in a confirmated way that people are beginning to understand the truth. 
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ABANDON THE SINKING SHIP PEOPLE!

BITCOIN WAS A FUN RIDE, BUT DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! THE BITCOIN PROPAGANDA HAS BEEN SPREAD SUCCESSFULY, BUT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END!

Governments and banks will NOT allow bitcoin! It will ALWAYS be associated with criminal activities! The Chinese own between 65 and 80% of all Bitcoins! If they dump, it is the end of bitcoin!

The limited supply doesn't mean anything! When bitcoin drops, all interest in this currency will be lost! Bitcoin was an extremist, and some people have become FILTHY RICH out of it. Now it is time to dump because they have milked the last bit of drops out of this cow!

Don't say nobody warned you! Don't come crying here and say ''I should have listened to you!'' in a few days! Because that won't help, you won't be able to undo your actions!

SELL NOW, BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE DOES.

When the panic selling starts - anytime now - you are already lost! By the time you have entered your sell order, the price will already be $50 USD lower, and it will continue to plummet until you realize that you have lost HUNDREDS of dollars in a matter of SECONDS.

SELL NOW!

before this post I had considered ignoring you, but figured at some point you have have interesting things to say, like proudhon sometimes does. after this post I dont think that I will miss out on anything. Plus, you were clearly ignored already by so many people you have to make a account just for this thread...
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I have so many relentless doomsters on ignore that I've absolutely no idea of what's going on in this thread. I'm sure everything'll work out fine in the end.

It won't work out.  This is a confirmed fact. Just look at these official Chinese sources!  And we now have confirmation from Miama and Twitter!
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This forum is becoming a joke..
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I have so many relentless doomsters on ignore that I've absolutely no idea of what's going on in this thread. I'm sure everything'll work out fine in the end.
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ABANDON THE SINKING SHIP PEOPLE!

BITCOIN WAS A FUN RIDE, BUT DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! THE BITCOIN PROPAGANDA HAS BEEN SPREAD SUCCESSFULY, BUT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END!

Governments and banks will NOT allow bitcoin! It will ALWAYS be associated with criminal activities! The Chinese own between 65 and 80% of all Bitcoins! If they dump, it is the end of bitcoin!

The limited supply doesn't mean anything! When bitcoin drops, all interest in this currency will be lost! Bitcoin was an extremist, and some people have become FILTHY RICH out of it. Now it is time to dump because they have milked the last bit of drops out of this cow!

Don't say nobody warned you! Don't come crying here and say ''I should have listened to you!'' in a few days! Because that won't help, you won't be able to undo your actions!

SELL NOW, BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE DOES.

When the panic selling starts - anytime now - you are already lost! By the time you have entered your sell order, the price will already be $50 USD lower, and it will continue to plummet until you realize that you have lost HUNDREDS of dollars in a matter of SECONDS.

SELL NOW!

PLEASE CONTRIBUTE HERE TO GET THE WORD OUT QUICKLY!!! WE ONLY HAVE SHORT TIME TO HELP PEOPLE FROM LOSING ALL MONEY FROM THE FAILURE OF BITCOIN!!!  HELP ME!!!
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ABANDON THE SINKING SHIP PEOPLE!

BITCOIN WAS A FUN RIDE, BUT DON'T FOOL YOURSELF! THE BITCOIN PROPAGANDA HAS BEEN SPREAD SUCCESSFULY, BUT THIS IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END!

Governments and banks will NOT allow bitcoin! It will ALWAYS be associated with criminal activities! The Chinese own between 65 and 80% of all Bitcoins! If they dump, it is the end of bitcoin!

The limited supply doesn't mean anything! When bitcoin drops, all interest in this currency will be lost! Bitcoin was an extremist, and some people have become FILTHY RICH out of it. Now it is time to dump because they have milked the last bit of drops out of this cow!

Don't say nobody warned you! Don't come crying here and say ''I should have listened to you!'' in a few days! Because that won't help, you won't be able to undo your actions!

SELL NOW, BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE DOES.

When the panic selling starts - anytime now - you are already lost! By the time you have entered your sell order, the price will already be $50 USD lower, and it will continue to plummet until you realize that you have lost HUNDREDS of dollars in a matter of SECONDS.

SELL NOW!
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bitcoinlitcoinbtcltc,

this is NOT a confirmed ban on chinese exchange/bank transfers.  it is from a speaker at the miami conference who logically is vetted by the organizers and unlikely to be FUD.  however, to be a full confirmation we need to see action or explicit statements from chinese authorities.  

that said, this information is barely 2 hours old.  so in time, we will find out.

This is confirmed already and very, very bad.  Bitcoin will fail over this, as has been confirmed.  See here for an official Chinese source confirming the confirmed bad news.  It is true and from verified sources.
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bitcoinlitcoinbtcltc,

this is NOT a confirmed ban on chinese exchange/bank transfers.  it is from a speaker at the miami conference who logically is vetted by the organizers and unlikely to be FUD.  however, to be a full confirmation we need to see action or explicit statements from chinese authorities.  

that said, this information is barely 2 hours old.  so in time, we will find out.
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Thanks for the information Smiley

so we are losing China now Sad

Yes, but it's worse than that.  With China gone, there is no reason to bitcoin, and it will fail.  We now have dozens of confirmed sources confirming this verified fact.  The only thing to do now is take a leveraged SHOTR position.
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After January 31st, Chinese can no longer do anything related to bitcoins.
They can not withdraw money from Chinese exchanges. So the bitcoins they have on Chinese exchanges, are ''dead''. They can not trade those bitcoins in for real money, or withdraw that money. It's like that money doesn't exist anymore.

They can not make deposits anymore, and they can not withdraw money from their bank accounts to purchase bitcoins (online or offline).

I will try to explain it better:

- If you live in China and you have 10 bitcoins in your account, those bitcoins could be worth $10 or $1,000,000. It doesn't matter how much they are worth after January 31st. You will never be able to get that money into China. Chinese banks will not process any transactions from/to bitcoin exchanges. You can try to work around it, but questions will be asked and they will find out how you got that money. Nobody in China just makes 1 million dollars.

So after January 31st, you don't want to have bitcoins in China. In China, they can not spend their bitcoins, or trade them in for money.

And most bitcoins are in China, so they WILL BE DUMPED.

Chinese are gamblers. Everyone is saying ''if they wanted to dump, they would have done it already.''

They just don't understand the Chinese. They have until January 31st to withdraw their money. And the big bag holders will try to push up the price a little bit more. By waiting, they are creating trust in the West. Everyone will think ''If they wanted to dump, they would have done it already.'' So nobody is expecting a crash, and they are buying more bitcoins because the price is ''so stable''. The price goes up a little bit more, and then, when everyone is sleeping: BAM!

DUMP DUMP DUMP, BITCOIN PRICE PLUMMET, PANIC PANIC PANIC, BITCOIN DOWN TO $100 USD, PEOPLE CRYING, COMMITTING SUICIDE.
NEGATIVE BITCOIN NEWS ALL OVER THE PLACE

CNN HEADLINE: ''OH JOLLY, BITCOIN DID IT AGAIN!''
BBC HEADLINE: ''THE JAPANESE WOULD BE JEALOUS, MASS SUICIDE IN NEW YORK CITY!''

The bitcoin propaganda is going to get you if you listen to the liars who want you to hold & buy. Most of the people who are preaching ''hodl'' will sell before you do Smiley.

Thank you for this cogent analysis.  A lot of people will be very sad this year as we watch bitcoin completely fail, as confirmed by China.
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Thanks for the information Smiley

so we are losing China now Sad
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After January 31st, Chinese can no longer do anything related to bitcoins.
They can not withdraw money from Chinese exchanges. So the bitcoins they have on Chinese exchanges, are ''dead''. They can not trade those bitcoins in for real money, or withdraw that money. It's like that money doesn't exist anymore.

They can not make deposits anymore, and they can not withdraw money from their bank accounts to purchase bitcoins (online or offline).

I will try to explain it better:

- If you live in China and you have 10 bitcoins in your account, those bitcoins could be worth $10 or $1,000,000. It doesn't matter how much they are worth after January 31st. You will never be able to get that money into China. Chinese banks will not process any transactions from/to bitcoin exchanges. You can try to work around it, but questions will be asked and they will find out how you got that money. Nobody in China just makes 1 million dollars.

So after January 31st, you don't want to have bitcoins in China. In China, they can not spend their bitcoins, or trade them in for money.

And most bitcoins are in China, so they WILL BE DUMPED.

Chinese are gamblers. Everyone is saying ''if they wanted to dump, they would have done it already.''

They just don't understand the Chinese. They have until January 31st to withdraw their money. And the big bag holders will try to push up the price a little bit more. By waiting, they are creating trust in the West. Everyone will think ''If they wanted to dump, they would have done it already.'' So nobody is expecting a crash, and they are buying more bitcoins because the price is ''so stable''. The price goes up a little bit more, and then, when everyone is sleeping: BAM!

DUMP DUMP DUMP, BITCOIN PRICE PLUMMET, PANIC PANIC PANIC, BITCOIN DOWN TO $100 USD, PEOPLE CRYING, COMMITTING SUICIDE.
NEGATIVE BITCOIN NEWS ALL OVER THE PLACE

CNN HEADLINE: ''OH JOLLY, BITCOIN DID IT AGAIN!''
BBC HEADLINE: ''THE JAPANESE WOULD BE JEALOUS, MASS SUICIDE IN NEW YORK CITY!''

The bitcoin propaganda is going to get you if you listen to the liars who want you to hold & buy. Most of the people who are preaching ''hodl'' will sell before you do Smiley.
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It´s nice that you think i´m spamming and FUD. As a bear i´m used to be insulted, so it´s okay.
But this came just in from the North American Bitcoin Conference that is happening right now.

http://coinchomp.com/2014/01/26/live-blog-north-american-bitcoin-conference-day-2/


This has cost me money!

Or rather getting involved in emotional arguments with tons of posters attacking me for simply stating that I think the price is going down, has clouded my judgement and cost me money.

First time I encountered it, was with Piramida. Someone who bought in on the July 2011 low at $2, telling someone who had been trading since the Nov $700, and had bought a big load of coins at over $1000, that he should hold or cry when he buys back in at $1300. But this sort of shite is just par for the course around here. In the end, I never listened to him, sold at a loss, and bought back in at $640 on average, selling at $880 on average.

Since then I have been ultra hyperphobic against bulltards giving advice or dishing out ridicule on this forum. When you end up supporting a price direction in order to get one up on some bulltard who has been dishing out shite on a forum, it clouds the judgement and cost's me money!

Can confirm.  Always SHOTR bitcoin.
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When it is proven that someone has spread false information intentionally, there should be a scammer tag applied.

It´s okay if you want to apologize for calling me a scammer?

If you did not intentionally spread false information, then you were not qualifying yourself as a scammer by my criteria.  

I do apologize for creating an inference that I was calling you a scammer.  Hopefully no one made that inference, as it would be a fallacious inference.

If I believed that you were a scammer, I would have said so. I was certainly trending towards the opinion that you were a scammer:  
You must understand that if you exhibit the behaviours typical of scammers, it will create an inference.  Many people spread disinformative FUD.  If you convey information which is structurally similar to other instances, until it can be confirmed, it will be mistaken for disinformative FUD.

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CasSelle formerly served as director of Hong Kong-based Capital Union Investments, where he managed private direct investments into late-stage web companies.[4] He was also a top executive at Groupon’s joint venture with BTCinstant messaging and gaming giant Tencent.[5] He co-founded NetNoir, the first outside company to be accepted into the AOL Greenhouse Program,[6] and Pacific Century CyberWorks (PCCW), a Hong Kong-based telecommunications provider.[7]
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Since then I have been ultra hyperphobic against bulltards giving advice or dishing out ridicule on this forum. It clouds the judgement and cost's me money!

A fool and his money are soon parted.
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http://imgur.com/c6NANbM  (screenshot)

http://www.linkedin.com/in/malcolmcasselle   (profile of speaker at Miami bitcoin conference 1/26/14)

is Eric turner a China bitcoin business insider? did he show any official documents to prove what he said?

Eric Turner is only covering and doing live tweeting at the miami bitcoin conference.  He's quoting Malcom Casselle.

this is eric's blog http://coinchomp.com/
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It´s nice that you think i´m spamming and FUD. As a bear i´m used to be insulted, so it´s okay.
But this came just in from the North American Bitcoin Conference that is happening right now.

http://coinchomp.com/2014/01/26/live-blog-north-american-bitcoin-conference-day-2/


This has cost me money!

Or rather getting involved in emotional arguments with tons of posters attacking me for simply stating that I think the price is going down, has clouded my judgement and cost me money.

First time I encountered it, was with Piramida. Someone who bought in on the July 2011 low at $2, telling someone who had been trading since the Nov $700, and had bought a big load of coins at over $1000, that he should hold or cry when he buys back in at $1300. But this sort of shite is just par for the course around here. In the end, I never listened to him, sold at a loss, and bought back in at $640 on average, selling at $880 on average.

Since then I have been ultra hyperphobic against bulltards giving advice or dishing out ridicule on this forum. When you end up supporting a price direction in order to get one up on some bulltard who has been dishing out shite on a forum, it clouds the judgement and cost's me money!
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http://imgur.com/c6NANbM  (screenshot)

http://www.linkedin.com/in/malcolmcasselle   (profile of speaker at Miami bitcoin conference 1/26/14)

is Eric turner a China bitcoin business insider? did he show any official documents to prove what he said?
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When it is proven that someone has spread false information intentionally, there should be a scammer tag applied.

uh, uh, uh, look who's mad! Grin
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When it is proven that someone has spread false information intentionally, there should be a scammer tag applied.

It´s okay if you want to apologize for calling me a scammer?
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http://imgur.com/c6NANbM  (screenshot)

http://www.linkedin.com/in/malcolmcasselle   (profile of speaker at Miami bitcoin conference 1/26/14)
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It´s nice that you think i´m spamming and FUD. As a bear i´m used to be insulted, so it´s okay.
But this came just in from the North American Bitcoin Conference that is happening right now.

http://coinchomp.com/2014/01/26/live-blog-north-american-bitcoin-conference-day-2/

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"On January 31st, a new law will be effective in China: 3rd party payment processors will no longer be allowed to trade bitcoins."

third party Bitcoin payment processors including:
Taobao (ebay)
Alipay   (paypal)
Tenpay (another paypal)
Yeepay (another paypal)
.....

this is nothing new, we have already known about this since December 2013, Bitcoin exchangers in China already stopped Deposit/Withdraw from/to 3rd party payment processors and switched funding methods to "China bank account transfers" two months ago

So the only question is, can traders deposit / withdraw money CNY from / to Chinese bitcoin exchangers through China bank account transfers?

As far as i am informed this will not be possible.




could you provide any sources to back your point?

This just came in:

“They also said that Banks could not perform withdraws for the purpose of Bitcoin purchases, [...] that sent a chill through the bitcoin ecosystem”.

Malcom: “So that’s the current state in china – you’re not allowed to use 3rd party payment provider, you’re not allowed to deposit money into your Bank account for Bitcoin.”

i think this is FUD
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When it is proven that someone has spread false information intentionally, there should be a scammer tag applied.
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"On January 31st, a new law will be effective in China: 3rd party payment processors will no longer be allowed to trade bitcoins."

third party Bitcoin payment processors including:
Taobao (ebay)
Alipay   (paypal)
Tenpay (another paypal)
Yeepay (another paypal)
.....

this is nothing new, we have already known about this since December 2013, Bitcoin exchangers in China already stopped Deposit/Withdraw from/to 3rd party payment processors and switched funding methods to "China bank account transfers" two months ago

So the only question is, can traders deposit / withdraw money CNY from / to Chinese bitcoin exchangers through China bank account transfers?

As far as i am informed this will not be possible.

could you provide any sources to back your point?

This just came in:

“They also said that Banks could not perform withdraws for the purpose of Bitcoin purchases, [...] that sent a chill through the bitcoin ecosystem”.

Malcom: “So that’s the current state in china – you’re not allowed to use 3rd party payment provider, you’re not allowed to deposit money into your Bank account for Bitcoin.”
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
"On January 31st, a new law will be effective in China: 3rd party payment processors will no longer be allowed to trade bitcoins."

third party Bitcoin payment processors including:
Taobao (ebay)
Alipay   (paypal)
Tenpay (another paypal)
Yeepay (another paypal)
.....

this is nothing new, we have already known about this since December 2013, Bitcoin exchangers in China already stopped Deposit/Withdraw from/to 3rd party payment processors and switched funding methods to "China bank account transfers" two months ago

So the only question is, can traders deposit / withdraw money CNY from / to Chinese bitcoin exchangers through China bank account transfers?

As far as i am informed this will not be possible.

could you provide any sources to back your point?
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Moderator
"On January 31st, a new law will be effective in China: 3rd party payment processors will no longer be allowed to trade bitcoins."

third party Bitcoin payment processors including:
Taobao (ebay)
Alipay   (paypal)
Tenpay (another paypal)
Yeepay (another paypal)
.....

this is nothing new, we have already known about this since December 2013, Bitcoin exchangers in China already stopped Deposit/Withdraw from/to 3rd party payment processors and switched funding methods to "China bank account transfers" two months ago

So the only question is, can traders deposit / withdraw money CNY from / to Chinese bitcoin exchangers through China bank account transfers?

As far as i am informed this will not be possible.
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
it does not matter how the chinese buy bitcoin, they will. if that means via face to face with bags of cash, then so be it. if it means the government opens exchange so they control things and feel better so be it. but there is no way of stopping this. the chinese are very good at finding ways around problems, thats a freaking fact. and they will do anything to reach there goals. (GDP/polution should be proof of this easy to see truth)
newbie
Activity: 56
Merit: 0
"On January 31st, a new law will be effective in China: 3rd party payment processors will no longer be allowed to trade bitcoins."

third party Bitcoin payment processors including:
Taobao (ebay)
Alipay   (paypal)
Tenpay (another paypal)
Yeepay (another paypal)
.....

this is nothing new, we have already known about this since December 2013, Bitcoin exchangers in China already stopped Deposit / Withdraw from / to 3rd party payment processors and switched their funding methods to "China bank account transfers" two months ago

So the only question is, can Chinese traders deposit / withdraw money CNY from / to Chinese bitcoin exchangers through China bank account transfers after January 31st?
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