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legendary
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November 09, 2018, 01:50:04 PM
#14
Trump is bad at picking people,

There is a lot of blow back so far for his pick as interim AG.  A number of prominent constitutional lawyers (Republican and Dem) are making the argument that Whitaker's appointment is unconstitutional.

Lawyers are subject to the Bar association, their are a lot of lawyers saying the reason Sessions recused himself in the first place is that he didn't want to be disbarred and have that be how he was known.  AG was his dream job and he doesn't want a stained legacy of his short time there.

I think Sessions was really bad as the AG and the dems are probably happy he is out IF Mueller is protected.

The interim job should have gone down the line of succession until a Trump nominee can be confirmed.



I am glad you are learning about our constitution and legal process. It will help you prepare for the results of the illegal FISA spying investigation when those indictments are made public.
legendary
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November 09, 2018, 01:07:50 PM
#13
Trump is bad at picking people,

There is a lot of blow back so far for his pick as interim AG.  A number of prominent constitutional lawyers (Republican and Dem) are making the argument that Whitaker's appointment is unconstitutional....

... interim job should have gone down the line of succession until a Trump nominee can be confirmed.


You know, that's a very, very minor point in any overall scheme of things. It's an "interim" director job. There could be any of a  number of valid and practical reasons to appoint the person instead of using a line of succession.

But since you want to harp on it, let's look at it. Just another case of liberals reversing themselves when it fits whatever the current goal is. And you're playing right into that.

Go back to 2017.

A USA Today article said this ...


The order appears to be the first that Trump has not signed in a public ceremony. It's dated Thursday — the same day Attorney General Jeff Sessions was sworn in — but was not posted to the White House website until Friday morning. The White House did not explain the discrepancy.

The executive order spells out who will act as the nation's highest law enforcement officer if the attorney general dies, resigns or becomes incapacitated. Such orders have been routine since the 2001 terrorist attacks, but Trump's is notable becomes it comes two weeks after he fired acting Attorney General Sally Yates for refusing to defend his executive order banning travelers from seven predominately Muslim countries.

That time, Trump went outside the official order of succession — as he has the right to do — to elevate Dana Boente, the U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia, to acting attorney general.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/10/trump-executive-order-obama-justice-department-succession/97752898/


legendary
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November 09, 2018, 08:38:24 AM
#12
Trump is bad at picking people,

There is a lot of blow back so far for his pick as interim AG.  A number of prominent constitutional lawyers (Republican and Dem) are making the argument that Whitaker's appointment is unconstitutional.

Lawyers are subject to the Bar association, their are a lot of lawyers saying the reason Sessions recused himself in the first place is that he didn't want to be disbarred and have that be how he was known.  AG was his dream job and he doesn't want a stained legacy of his short time there.

I think Sessions was really bad as the AG and the dems are probably happy he is out IF Mueller is protected.

The interim job should have gone down the line of succession until a Trump nominee can be confirmed.

legendary
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November 08, 2018, 10:57:01 AM
#11
Mueller targeted Don Jr.

Trump had to act. Pretty much Mueller waited until after midterms to prevent the violent right from saying "THIS WAS TO INFLUENCE ELECTIONS".

Trump freaked out, requested Sessions to resign to protect "Donald Trump Jr."

You are basing these conclusions on what evidence exactly?
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November 08, 2018, 10:48:34 AM
#10
Mueller targeted Don Jr.

Trump had to act. Pretty much Mueller waited until after midterms to prevent the violent right from saying "THIS WAS TO INFLUENCE ELECTIONS".

Trump freaked out, requested Sessions to resign to protect "Donald Trump Jr."
legendary
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November 08, 2018, 09:10:24 AM
#9
Am I the only one asking about the timing? Is there a relation between the recent election and the time of resignation?
Sessions relation with Trump wasn't good from the ~beginning...
The greatest POTUS has to pick a good loyal guy who should criticise Mueller everyday tho.

Yes, it is exactly related. As you noted they haven't always seen eye to eye. Trump wanted him gone sooner, but he knew that if he booted him before mid-terms, he could be stuck without an AG while the left turn the confirmation process of a new AG into yet another freak show, delaying the confirmation until after the mid-terms, after which the majority to confirm his appointee is confirmed, and the dems have slightly less motivation to engage in a freak show over it.



https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-11-08/left-organizes-response-events-900-cities-protest-firing-jeff-sessions

Man.. the left is so fucking gullible being lead around by the nose, all the while never having a clue what they are chanting and "bashing the fash" over. Now Jeff Sessions is a leftist darling? What? Can you not see this is a direct result of criminals in the government terrified Trump will put in some one who will actually prosecute them? The left never liked Sessions, this is yet one more in a long line of COVER YOUR ASS events by the criminals within the Democrat party.
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November 08, 2018, 01:37:23 AM
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Am I the only one asking about the timing? Is there a relation between the recent election and the time of resignation?
Sessions relation with Trump wasn't good from the ~beginning...
The greatest POTUS has to pick a good loyal guy who should criticise Mueller everyday tho.
legendary
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November 07, 2018, 09:14:23 PM
#7
With that said, I could see Lindsey in the role -- he seems like a pretty solid pick and a loyalist to Trump.

God help us no. Lindsey Graham is a complete rhino who goes the direction the person with the biggest whip tells him to. Right now that is Trump. He, like a lot of the Republican establishment, has been very resistant to Trump's policies up until recently after he has demonstrated his ability to deliver for them. I don't trust him ONE BIT in such a critical position. I would rather have Sessions back and I am glad he is gone.
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November 07, 2018, 08:00:05 PM
#6
Good, Sessions is a terrible person. I knew from the start that he'd be in Trump's initial administration, and I hated it. I hope he stays out of politics for good.

Trump's first priority in AG will be loyalty. Rand Paul has been careful to appear 100% personally loyal to Trump (while still expressing disagreements), and could conceivably be asked; while he's probably in a better position as senator, he'd be a very good AG.

I wouldn't be shocked if Trump picked one of his sons, even though that'd look super bad. Or Guiliani, maybe.

A really good political move would be to appoint a registered Democrat who has so far resisted the Russia hysteria. But it's unlikely.

Trump is bad at picking people, so the new AG might end up causing him the same issues. But it'll be difficult to find someone worse for the country than Sessions.

Hm. But going back to Sessions, he's probably one of the most unpopular picks ever (due to views on Marijuana, etc) Was a pretty dumb pick.

I mean I really can see the reasons for people thinking Giulini, but that seems like too large of a conflict of interest. It's pretty much the same one that Sessions had and caused him to recuse himself from the Russia investigation. This COI is the fact that they both have a bias towards Trump, and they both worked on the Trump campaign.

Of course, anyone he picks is going to have a tad bit of a conflict of ensuring the investigation is done without Trump fighting it -- but there is a way to attempt to limit this.

With that said, I could see Lindsey in the role -- he seems like a pretty solid pick and a loyalist to Trump.

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Matt Whittaker is the interim AG.

You can see his position on the Mueller investigation he's been quite vocal about it.

Sessions just became a witness in the Mueller investigation haha!

Rosenstien is next? He's on his way to the WH for a pre-scheduled meeting.

Wednesday massacre?

Rosenstein is on the way out cause he wasn't working with the House GOP before. He slowwalked a good amount of paperwork. Maybe he'll salvage his job, maybe he won't. Who knows.
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November 07, 2018, 05:21:14 PM
#5
Matt Whittaker is the interim AG.

You can see his position on the Mueller investigation he's been quite vocal about it.

Sessions just became a witness in the Mueller investigation haha!

Rosenstien is next? He's on his way to the WH for a pre-scheduled meeting.

Wednesday massacre?

It amazes me how the left can continually keep this level of enthusiasm for investigations that have yielded zero evidence to support the claim of serious Russian interference in the elections, then rape accusations with no evidence, now more Russia accusations with no evidence again...over and over, and none of you ever bother to follow up on these endless synthetic scandals. The left has the attention span of gold fish. You keep dreaming. The hammer will come down any day now... any day.... any day.... any... day....


Trump has wanted sessions out for a while now because he refuses to bring investigations and prosecutions against certain people in spite of mountains of evidence. He didn't replace him before mid-terms because he knew the Democrats would leverage it, turn it into another shit show, and hold it up until after the elections in the hope they could have more control over approval of the appointment. Now that the senate majority is confirmed, he is free to replace him.
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November 07, 2018, 03:46:12 PM
#4
Matt Whittaker is the interim AG.

You can see his position on the Mueller investigation he's been quite vocal about it.

Sessions just became a witness in the Mueller investigation haha!

Rosenstien is next? He's on his way to the WH for a pre-scheduled meeting.

Wednesday massacre?
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November 07, 2018, 03:31:19 PM
#3
Good, Sessions is a terrible person. I knew from the start that he'd be in Trump's initial administration, and I hated it. I hope he stays out of politics for good.

Trump's first priority in AG will be loyalty. Rand Paul has been careful to appear 100% personally loyal to Trump (while still expressing disagreements), and could conceivably be asked; while he's probably in a better position as senator, he'd be a very good AG.

I wouldn't be shocked if Trump picked one of his sons, even though that'd look super bad. Or Guiliani, maybe.

A really good political move would be to appoint a registered Democrat who has so far resisted the Russia hysteria. But it's unlikely.

Trump is bad at picking people, so the new AG might end up causing him the same issues. But it'll be difficult to find someone worse for the country than Sessions.
legendary
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November 07, 2018, 03:27:14 PM
#2
I think Sessions had some kind of dirt on him he didn't want getting out. A lot of Republicans don't even really like him. He spent his whole time under Trump's administration fence sitting.

Also I think Trump didn't expect this insane level of sabotage from the left and made the pick of Sessions under that context. Now that they have revealed their true motives, I predict he will pick some one with a good clean record and a spine. High level perp walks should follow from the years of evidence that went unprosecuted due to complicity under previous administrations.
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
November 07, 2018, 02:49:34 PM
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Not surprised to see the news here.

Trumps AG has been asked to resign, and he has resigned. This is after a pretty open knowledge of the two not getting along and Trump publicly berating his AG -- who he felt wasn't on the same page as him and was hostile towards Trump.

This is breaking news at the moment article is here - https://www.wsj.com/articles/attorney-general-jeff-sessions-resigns-from-trump-white-house-1541619893

I think a President should have everyone within their cabinet that they want there, it doesn't make sense to have this sort of infighting.
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