Topic: JESUS CHRIST TURNED WATER INTO ALCOHOL. (Read 154 times)

Eve had three sons, so while you don't need to be drunk to have sex with a man, you do to get him pregnant. 

Well you didn't really get my point, i don't mean alcohol invention..

 I am just trying to bring to light the religious rejection  and misunderstanding of alcohol, how some or most Christians rejects it when christ Himself produced and gave it to people. If it was a sin, he wouldn't give to people.. .
So mentality shift of how alcohol is seen with religious google have to take place by that miracle.

So it make sense as popularly said drink but don't be drunk That is if you can and want to, not to see others who do as sinners or what's the view.

Man started eating fruits and other food item that form ethanol in our body... Sour food/grounded fruits items and other natural processes must have helped in the invention of alcohol as some will even eat or drink
Fermented item that is close to ethanol naturally...
Off course history has it of people who got drunk somany years before christ...

This 'water into wine' miracle was done shortly after His temptation by Satan in the wilderness. In the wilderness temptation, Jesus shows how the universe works. People who don't believe in the temptation miracle, are simply believing in their own unbelief. This means that they are strengthening their inability to believe in the other miracles Jesus did, AND the fact that Jesus gives us all permission to do these miracles... if only we believe.

Consider the following.

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Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist at the start of His (Jesus's) ministry. You can read about it at the end of Matthew chapter 3.     Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John. But John tried to deter him, saying, "I need to be baptized by you, and do you come to me?"     Jesus replied, "Let it be so now; it is proper for us to do this to fulfill all righteousness." Then John consented.     As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove and lighting on him. And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased." Then a strange thing happened. Jesus was led (driven) by the Holy Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by Satan. Remember, this is just before the start-time of Jesus's ministry.     Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread."     Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"     [Matthew 4:1-4] So, what are all the words that come from the mouth of God? Well, didn't God speak the universe into existence? Look at the first chapter of Genesis and see this. What this means is that the physics of the universe, and the whole universe, itself, are the words proceeding from the mouth of God. The point is that people live on bread, but not on bread alone. Bread doesn't simply pop into existence without the rest of the universe, and the physics of nature making it come into being as bread - including the work that people put into converting wheat and other grains into bread. If God had wanted Jesus to simply "pop" some bread into existence for food, the whole fasting idea would have been something other than what it was. Let's jump to the end of the temptation section to see what happened. Maybe we can see from it the thing that God had in mind with the whole temptation fast that Jesus did.     Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'"     Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.     [Matthew 4:10,11] Jesus, in His hunger-weakened state, resisted Satan with the Old Testament words that come from the mouth of God. But for our purposes, look at what happened to Jesus after Satan left Him. Angels came and attended Him. What did the angels do, that is, in what way did they attend Jesus? We don't have the details. But I'm willing to bet that Jesus was fed by them, somehow. Among the things they did for Jesus, they brought nourishment to Him, somehow. Here is the VERY important point about this. How many ways could Jesus have been fed after He had fasted for forty days and forty nights? There are at least three: 1. He could have commanded the stones to become bread; 2. He could have received bread from other people by going back to town and getting help; 3. Angel food. And what is the very important point about this VERY important point? All three of these food sources have to do with every word that comes from the mouth of God. The difference is the reasons for doing it one way or another - and the timing involved. The whole universe is a miracle. This miracle universe is made up of countless 'smaller' miracles. How can we tell that the universe is miracles? Try to invent new physics rather than simply discovering what they are. You can't do it, and neither can I. And God won't do it, because He saw that everything was "good" as He was speaking it all into existence. And so the whole universe IS good.

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If you read all through the Gospel books of the Bible, you will see that Jesus tells us that if we have faith in Him that is strong enough, we can do all kinds of miracles. The miracle-doing will be angels putting into effect anything that we believe strongly enough. God made the universe to be like that... angels doing for us what we can't do, if we have faith in God. Our problem is, simply, that we don't have enough faith in God.

Non alcoholic wine is a good substitute for people who don't drink alcohol. Those who invented it were contributing to the world progress for sure. If you trying to say that drinking alcohol it's some kind of sacred ceremony, it's nothing new, all alcoholics think like that.

This is a Good Point about Jesus:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhjvAAkXbj0

Many like to Talk about Jesus and Pretend he is some kind of Higher than Thou Divine being, and Only by Bowing to him can You be saved. And if You Bowed to Jesus, he would actually Probably have You Stand at some Point, and say "Come with me" because there are Things to do. Things that need to be done.

The Chosen TV Show is Great for this because it Shows Christians and non-Christians alike, the REALITY of Jesus, who the Person was. Not just what You hear about from the Preacher, and the idea of the Man in Heaven, but what the Bible says about the Struggles that Jesus Lived Through, and what he Built before he Died.

And the Story of Turning Water into Wine is also an Important one, Jesus said to his Mom, "Woman, it is not my Time" because he wasn't going to Turn the Water into Wine, but then he did. That is what marks Jesus First Miracle, which he seemed to know he could do, but had not attempted before and was not going to attempt until God Showed him the Proper Moment.

wine is wine EG GRAPE juice
as oppose to vodka EG potato juice
as oppose to cider EG apple juice

thus calling it wine means grapes were added specifically
(grapes can naturally ferment on the vine or in buckets without added yeast.. potatos and apples less much, so easy to understand why they would suggest wine as oppose to vodka)

alcoholic or not, the sci fi story says he made water into grape juice(min standard) aka wine

if you take unwatered grapes fermenting in the sun and throw them into water. it creates wine
if you throw grapes into water to then ferment, it creates wine
if you throw grapes into water, add yeast to then ferment, it creates wine
all methods are true but 'alcoholic proof %' vary.. the former would be low % giddy, the later would be pure alcohol that can knock someone out and maybe blind them if not controlled

all this sci-fi book suggests is the main character put some fermented grapes into water and people got giddy drinking it

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if we really want to get specific about versions of the story
imagine servants on vineyard using feet to squish fermented grapes(standard old practice) thus having highly fermented grape juice on feet
now imagine they ceremoniously wash feet in trough near church flavouring the water (mmmm wine and cheese(feet sweat))
now imagine jesus asking people to take the water from the trough and then hand around..

ok now read
"Nearby stood six stone water jars, the kind used by the Jews for ceremonial washing, each holding from twenty to thirty gallons."

i personally prefer the version where jews also ceremonially wash feet.... and genitals in said water, due to jews teachings from the torah of "genital discharges" which would be thrush which is yeast to make the grape fermented/flavored water even more potent



but you do gotta love the evolution of pairing cheese and wine (feet sweat cheese flavour and squashed grapes underfoot from traditional vineyard practices)

it wasnt where originally someone drank some pure filtered wine and separately ate dairy cheese at the same table and thought "nice combo"
it was the unfiltered mix of cheesy feet flavour of traditional foot squashed wine people prefered over hand/stone pressed wine.
only later did hand/mechanical pressed wine and separate dairy cheese become paired to try to get the same old stimulation

I turned water into 20% alcohol just last night, in an incredible experiment!

I had 8oz of 40% vodka, and I added 8oz of water.    I divided the liquid and measured the original amount of water - 8oz.

To my amazement, the water had turn to alcohol.

-VGod, Ph.DD

I think it's about the taste that when He turned water into wine. While franky is right but OP didn't said that Jesus invented it. It became notable because it was the first miracle that He did.

They're still the same, wines were there for so long and the even the quote like 'aged like fine wine' so there's really the history about wines and I guess when it's about this drink, many will be interested to discuss it. 

The miracle Jesus performed in Cana in Galilee was in a marriage ceremony when the wine got exhausted.And when the wine was exhausted the news got to the mother of Jesus.And she told them to meet Jesus and told them that 'whatever he tells you to do,do it'.When they met Jesus, Jesus instructed the people to fill the jars with water,and the water turned into wine.When the steward of the feast tasted the wine,he said that the wine was sweeter than the other wine that was served earlier in the ceremony.Jesus turning water to wine is recorded as his first miracle in his ministry.The miracle Jesus performed in Cana in Galilee simply means in chemistry he's the best because he turned water into wine.

wine is not just fermented water

wine is grapes drenched and soaked in water and left to ferment.. (with added yeast)

all it reveals is they invented alcohol from someone putting fungus(yeast) into the water with the grapes and then later drinking it. and everyone was jolly

also alcohol existed 7000 years before 0AD. so "jesus" didnt invent it.

also it kinda hints to.. if jesus did exist he probably had an oral or genital yeast infection when he was stirring the grapes into water and adding his own biological excretions into the mix

When reading the Bible, some points are completed in other verses. So reading the verse before (pre verse) and
the verse  after (post verse) will help in understanding some statements in the Bible. He turned water into wine and they drink until they became drunk. SEE Matthew chapter 2 v 7 to 10. John 2 v 1 to 11
Don't forget... It is just now our days that we have alcoholic and non alcoholic wine, before it was not like that.