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legendary
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November 11, 2015, 05:43:07 PM
#17
There are two important historical events usually overlooked in the Arab-Israeli conflict.
One is the use that Muslim rulers made of the jizya (a discriminatory tax imposed only on non-Muslims, to "protect" them from being killed or having their property destroyed) to reduce the quantity of Jews living in Palestine before the British Mandate was instituted in 1922. The second were the incentives by the Ottoman government to relocate displaced Muslim populations from other parts of the Ottoman Empire in Palestine.
Until the late 1800s entire ancient Jewish communities had to flee Palestine to escape the brutality of Muslim authorities. As Egyptian historian Bat Ye'or writes in her book, The Dhimmi:
"The Jizya was paid in a humiliating public ceremony in which the non-Muslim while paying was struck in the head. If these taxes were not paid women and children were reduced to slavery, men were imprisoned and tortured until a ransom was paid for them. The Jewish communities in many cities under Muslim Rule was ruined for such demands. This custom of legalized financial abuses and extortion shattered the indigenous pre-Arab populations almost totally eliminating what remained of its peasantry... In 1849 the Jews of Tiberias envisaged exile because of the brutality, exactions, and injustice of the Muslim authorities. In addition to ordinary taxes, an Arab Sheik that ruled Hebron demanded that Jews pay an extra five thousand piastres annually for the protections of their lives and property. The Sheik threatened to attack and expel them from Hebron if it was not paid."
The Muslim rulers not only kept the number of Jews low through discriminatory taxes, they also increased the Muslim population by providing incentives for Muslim colonists to settle in the area. Incentives included free land, 12 years exemption from taxes and exemption from military service.
The Yazidi in Iraq and the Christian Copts in Egypt are not "settlers" and "occupiers;" neither are the Jews in Israel. They are victims of a common enemy that seems to want a Middle East free of non-Muslims

Still, how these historical antecedents result in an epidemic of prejudicial Internet postings on "Jew Hate" is not clear.

There is no other population segment which receives this treatment.

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November 11, 2015, 04:26:02 PM
#16
There are two important historical events usually overlooked in the Arab-Israeli conflict.
One is the use that Muslim rulers made of the jizya (a discriminatory tax imposed only on non-Muslims, to "protect" them from being killed or having their property destroyed) to reduce the quantity of Jews living in Palestine before the British Mandate was instituted in 1922. The second were the incentives by the Ottoman government to relocate displaced Muslim populations from other parts of the Ottoman Empire in Palestine.
Until the late 1800s entire ancient Jewish communities had to flee Palestine to escape the brutality of Muslim authorities. As Egyptian historian Bat Ye'or writes in her book, The Dhimmi:
"The Jizya was paid in a humiliating public ceremony in which the non-Muslim while paying was struck in the head. If these taxes were not paid women and children were reduced to slavery, men were imprisoned and tortured until a ransom was paid for them. The Jewish communities in many cities under Muslim Rule was ruined for such demands. This custom of legalized financial abuses and extortion shattered the indigenous pre-Arab populations almost totally eliminating what remained of its peasantry... In 1849 the Jews of Tiberias envisaged exile because of the brutality, exactions, and injustice of the Muslim authorities. In addition to ordinary taxes, an Arab Sheik that ruled Hebron demanded that Jews pay an extra five thousand piastres annually for the protections of their lives and property. The Sheik threatened to attack and expel them from Hebron if it was not paid."
The Muslim rulers not only kept the number of Jews low through discriminatory taxes, they also increased the Muslim population by providing incentives for Muslim colonists to settle in the area. Incentives included free land, 12 years exemption from taxes and exemption from military service.
The Yazidi in Iraq and the Christian Copts in Egypt are not "settlers" and "occupiers;" neither are the Jews in Israel. They are victims of a common enemy that seems to want a Middle East free of non-Muslims
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 01:31:10 PM
#15
All this can be explained by ignorance. The louder and more fervent a troll is the less he/she tends to know about the subject. It can be frustrating but consider that those people have no real power and, along with their stupid ideas, are going nowhere further than their Mom's basement.  Wink
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 01:17:44 PM
#14
When Palestinians stab Israelis at random, no one wants to be close to a Palestinian with a knife and fork.

The only option is the complete segregation of the Jews and the Arabs. There are a few options:

1. Israel should withdraw from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. The Israeli Arabs and the Palestinians should renounce their Israeli citizenship, and move to these regions (in case they are living in Israel proper or Jerusalem).

2. The Palestinians should be granted Saudi Arabian citizenship, and they should be transferred to Saudi Arabia.

3. Jews should move to Europe or North America.

Just curious.  Are you using the term "Arab" correctly here?
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 01:15:15 PM
#13
When Palestinians stab Israelis at random, no one wants to be close to a Palestinian with a knife and fork.

The only option is the complete segregation of the Jews and the Arabs. There are a few options:

1. Israel should withdraw from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. The Israeli Arabs and the Palestinians should renounce their Israeli citizenship, and move to these regions (in case they are living in Israel proper or Jerusalem).

2. The Palestinians should be granted Saudi Arabian citizenship, and they should be transferred to Saudi Arabia.

3. Jews should move to Europe or North America.
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 10:56:14 AM
#12
It's just some paid Al-Jazeera Pro-Palestine Russian trolls here, just ignore them or take them as entertainment  Smiley

Okay, but this IS a side forum of cryptographic methods and currency, right?  The least these guys could do is send us secret messages in their propaganda. 

That'd be vastly more interesting that just the surface tripe.  I'd like to know the pay rates.  And really it's just idle curiosity.  We had IIRC 2 people or maybe 3 on the Reddit Banned Climate Deniers thread admit they were paid.  Pretty funny - one said he was supposed to get paid and they shafted him.....
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November 11, 2015, 10:18:08 AM
#11
It's just some paid Al-Jazeera Pro-Palestine Russian trolls here, just ignore them or take them as entertainment  Smiley
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November 11, 2015, 10:12:13 AM
#10
When Palestinians stab Israelis at random, no one wants to be close to a Palestinian with a knife and fork.
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 09:46:34 AM
#9
Rather I am asking why on these forums they are routinely blamed for virtually every terrorist event - every single one for which Muslim Terrorists proclaim that they, Muslim Terrorists, did the deed.
i think most of team antizionist accept these acts aren't physically done by mossad agends with beards but its a bit like how you can get more time in prison for organising an assassination than the person who carries out the hit

the #1 ideological basis for islamic anti western hatred - our support for israel
muslims' presence in our countries - jews support multiculturalism (for gentiles)
human rights laws that stop us deporting them - jewish lawyers
european migration crisis - jews: "its like a second holocaust if you dont let them in"

muslim invaders and terrorists are powerless and innefective without their liberal, mainly jewish enablers, and it is these traitors in our midst we need to focus our attention on, not the mindless pawns

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And secondly I am asking why, when there is a huge social pressure for political correctness, Jews are excluded, and all sorts of insults, racial and ethnic slurs heaped upon them.
are you sure about that? across half of europe people are routinely put in prison for critisising jews and questioning aspects of their holohoax story and  this protection is rarely extended to other groups. and in the usa you can't get anywhere in politics without pledging alleigance to israel.
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legendary
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November 11, 2015, 08:20:57 AM
#8
In the absence of paid, organized crews routinely working Internet forums placing these allegations, it does not make sense.

I don't know if that assumption is correct. People can organize without financial incentive and if you really believe in something, it will motivate you to share your point of view. Be it Litecoin, or jewhatred.

The fact that it's a lot says to me only something about who has the time to generate this content, which sooner be a jobless man than a working man.

Plus I think that a long as you, and me, are glued to our pc screens we are allready keeping someone happy.

Usually the Hate_Jew_Trolls have post counts like 14-30, which indicates a lot of sock puppets at work.

Interesting. You give me a lot to think about. I think i'll just agree considering todays political climate, it's probably not propaganda if noone pays you to spout it.
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 08:04:55 AM
#7
In the absence of paid, organized crews routinely working Internet forums placing these allegations, it does not make sense.

I don't know if that assumption is correct. People can organize without financial incentive and if you really believe in something, it will motivate you to share your point of view. Be it Litecoin, or jewhatred.

The fact that it's a lot says to me only something about who has the time to generate this content, which sooner be a jobless man than a working man.

Plus I think that a long as you, and me, are glued to our pc screens we are allready keeping someone happy.

Usually the Hate_Jew_Trolls have post counts like 14-30, which indicates a lot of sock puppets at work.
RJX
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 07:57:31 AM
#6
In the absence of paid, organized crews routinely working Internet forums placing these allegations, it does not make sense.

I don't know if that assumption is correct. People can organize without financial incentive and if you really believe in something, it will motivate you to share your point of view. Be it Litecoin, or jewhatred.

The fact that it's a lot says to me only something about who has the time to generate this content, which sooner be a jobless man than a working man.

Plus I think that a long as you, and me, are glued to our pc screens we are allready keeping someone happy.
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 07:47:22 AM
#5
since you asked

deicide
armenian genocide
bolshevism
pornography
race mixing
usury and destruction of christian values
wars in the middle east for their interests not ours
open borders agenda for our countries not theirs
sexual degeneracy and the homosexualist agenda
ethnic cleansing of palestine
exploiting the holohoax to extort money from germany
terrorism, #1 cause of hatred by muslims to western countries

Yes, I am asking.  But I am not asking so much about whether the Jews may rightfully be criticized.

Rather I am asking why on these forums they are routinely blamed for virtually every terrorist event - every single one for which Muslim Terrorists proclaim that they, Muslim Terrorists, did the deed.

And secondly I am asking why, when there is a huge social pressure for political correctness, Jews are excluded, and all sorts of insults, racial and ethnic slurs heaped upon them.

In the absence of paid, organized crews routinely working Internet forums placing these allegations, it does not make sense.
RJX
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 07:15:13 AM
#4
Lol yes I agree there's a lot of negative sentiment here towards them that wear the tiny hats.

It's a matter of poverty I think. When times get hard people start scapegoating.

The fact that antisemitism has regained momentum in the West is because of all the cheap labour that has been imported to support a faulty financial system. The West however underestimated these folks loyalty to their beliefs and their way of life and is now, paralysed by political correctness based on hollowed out colonial guild, perpetuating this problem by letting these guys say and do what they want.

It's poormans politics for the feebleminded and luckilly this world is filled with both.



legendary
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November 11, 2015, 06:44:25 AM
#3

I have found quite a few people do blame jews saying that they control the world/they are the rich elites etc.  I argue that the problem isn't because they are jewish its just they've been smarter than others.
legendary
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November 11, 2015, 04:10:15 AM
#2
since you asked

deicide
armenian genocide
bolshevism
pornography
race mixing
usury and destruction of christian values
wars in the middle east for their interests not ours
open borders agenda for our countries not theirs
sexual degeneracy and the homosexualist agenda
ethnic cleansing of palestine
exploiting the holohoax to extort money from germany
terrorism, #1 cause of hatred by muslims to western countries
legendary
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November 10, 2015, 10:25:44 PM
#1
Why is everything blamed on Jews and Israel?

Why are they continually degraded and hated?

These forums are a cesspool of hate in this particular direction, while somehow people try to take a high moral ground against even slight criticism of homo, trans, gay, you know well the protected species.  But the most maligned group is quite starkly obvious.

Every single hideous and barbaric act of recent history, openly and proudly stated to be the work of Muslim Terrorists, is within days blamed on Secret Israeli Operations.  What total bullshit.  

Massive, continuous campaigns of lies, also known as mis and dis information programs, at work.

Is the pay decent?  Let us know.  Is it regular jobs with benefits, or per post?

Can both men and women apply?  Are full burkas required for women?
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