There is no verbal agreement in boxing especially if money is involved and based on Fury's reaction, he is hesitant to accept the deals and based on the video he doesn't want to talk about it, it will not stand in any court in the absence of the contract, because in the first place, Jake wants to put it in writing while they are hesitant to do so, John's action speaks for himself.
I'm sure Jake's lawyer will advise him not to yield to John Fury's demand, he just wants to milk Jake Paul.
Topic: John Fury didn't sign the contract but wants double payment from Jake Paul (Read 134 times)
March 02, 2023, 04:16:10 PM
March 02, 2023, 03:55:40 PM
As with all contracts go, if you don't sign it, it's good as toilet paper. Tommy Fury clearly isn't confident he'd win the fight, so he took the strategy of appealing to the masses by publicly telling Jake he's gonna sign it, but in the backgrounds he didn't, so if things go south for him and Jake wins the bout he's not liable to pay him all of his earnings for that fight, and if he does win he can appeal by saying he agreed to it. Jokes on him but the as long as the contract isn't sign, his words mean as much as the dumps he take in the morning, although they can argue it's a verbal agreement, so there's that. In any case, if they take this to court this will be a very funny ordeal that I may or may not watch unfold.
A verbal agreement is considered to be a stickler for fury's side because they are greedy to demand double pay, but if fury loses they will say there will never be a deal from jake's challenge, so all the old man talk is a joke because fury has won and they are like humiliating themselves in the interview, so stop begging for double pay because there is no provable contractual agreement to public, even take it to court but the report is invalid and does not meet the violation of law. So enjoy your share of money each and have fun after the fight. 
March 02, 2023, 03:48:48 PM
In boxing, everything should be in the contract even if you say it in public so if there's something that is in agreement and any one of the parties did not follow, the offended party can then go to the contract to compel the other party to honor the country, in the case of this fight so many things have been said the public did not know if they are saying this to just hype the fight, I don't think Jake Paul should double the payment for John Fury because of the lack of a contract.
He should just be thankful that his son wins though many think he is not a capable boxer to win a title.
He should just be thankful that his son wins though many think he is not a capable boxer to win a title.
March 02, 2023, 03:45:57 PM
I think it worth a little discussing.
It's known for everyone that Jake Paul's lawyers made an All or Nothing contract and Jake asked Tommy Fury to sign it. The term of contract was following: - [Jake] If I win, I take all the money you're being paid. If you win, I double it up.
During that moment, John Fury interfered and told Jake Paul: You've got my word as the head of the Fury clan, he will definitely sign that. You've got my word on that.
After saying that, John Fury shook his hand, as did Tommy too.
Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1629291192306532352
But Fury didn't sign the contract. Later then someone asked him about the all or nothing contract and you can clearly see what was his response, he was always trying to get rid of it: https://www.tiktok.com/@betr/video/7204576968606485803?_r=1&_t=8aJ73JIpOsb
After the end of fight, Fury comes and asks Jake Paul for double money because he lost the fight.
Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1630943761739010048
What do you think about this? Isn't this a shame from Fury to ask Paul money after wining the match without signing a contract? If they lose, they would then say that they haven't signed a contract and Jake Deserves no money.
It's known for everyone that Jake Paul's lawyers made an All or Nothing contract and Jake asked Tommy Fury to sign it. The term of contract was following: - [Jake] If I win, I take all the money you're being paid. If you win, I double it up.
During that moment, John Fury interfered and told Jake Paul: You've got my word as the head of the Fury clan, he will definitely sign that. You've got my word on that.
After saying that, John Fury shook his hand, as did Tommy too.
Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1629291192306532352
But Fury didn't sign the contract. Later then someone asked him about the all or nothing contract and you can clearly see what was his response, he was always trying to get rid of it: https://www.tiktok.com/@betr/video/7204576968606485803?_r=1&_t=8aJ73JIpOsb
After the end of fight, Fury comes and asks Jake Paul for double money because he lost the fight.
Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1630943761739010048
What do you think about this? Isn't this a shame from Fury to ask Paul money after wining the match without signing a contract? If they lose, they would then say that they haven't signed a contract and Jake Deserves no money.
It's not a surprise really, as these type of fighters thrive off publicity and notoriously like to chat rubbish about each other to stay in the news headlines. They had the opportunity to sign the contract but clearly didn't have enough confidence to do it before the fight and judging by the final points score they were very lucky to walk away with a win anyway. The whole Fury clan might be able to fight, but they are pretty rubbish at PR and have very little decency among them, as has been witnessed by numerous events over the years. Some top fighters, even after all the crap they have to put up with between media stories and fans, still manage to present a good appearance - but not these clowns.
March 02, 2023, 03:36:36 PM
As with all contracts go, if you don't sign it, it's good as toilet paper. Tommy Fury clearly isn't confident he'd win the fight, so he took the strategy of appealing to the masses by publicly telling Jake he's gonna sign it, but in the backgrounds he didn't, so if things go south for him and Jake wins the bout he's not liable to pay him all of his earnings for that fight, and if he does win he can appeal by saying he agreed to it. Jokes on him but the as long as the contract isn't sign, his words mean as much as the dumps he take in the morning, although they can argue it's a verbal agreement, so there's that. In any case, if they take this to court this will be a very funny ordeal that I may or may not watch unfold.
March 02, 2023, 03:30:09 PM
He had plenty of time to sign that and if he chose not to do it it's all on him. If I had an opportunity to make a bet and did not finalize it, I wouldn't go asking for the money. I'd feel like a cheater. Fury should know this is going to make him more enemies than friends.
We can all see that old man is all about money now and gets angry when they ask him about it. He knows it was a bad choice on his part and doesn't want to admit it because he's stubborn and grumpy like most old guys. Does it really change anything about the fight? I think it doesn't. They both got their respective shares of the money and should leave it at that.
We can all see that old man is all about money now and gets angry when they ask him about it. He knows it was a bad choice on his part and doesn't want to admit it because he's stubborn and grumpy like most old guys. Does it really change anything about the fight? I think it doesn't. They both got their respective shares of the money and should leave it at that.
March 02, 2023, 03:08:30 PM
I think they should never have shook hands on it until after the contract was signed. Handshake is a gentleman's agreement but it won't hold up in court. Fury didn't hold up his end of the gentleman's agreement by not signing the contract. So he shouldn't be paid double, even by the terms of the handshake.
Definitely. Tommy's father said: You've got my word as the head of the Fury clan, he will definitely sign that. If he is a man of his word, why didn't Tommy signed that? Conclusion: John Fury, the head of Fury clan is not a man of his word, the same applies to Tommy but I hope he won't be dumb enough to demand for money from Jake.Tommy Fury being a boxer from a famous boxing family, I think there was a tremendous amount of pressure on him to beat the "youtuber" in Jake Paul. This caused Tommy Fury to fight below his normal level. Jake Paul might also have been sick. Not certain, still need to watch the first 5 rounds of the fight which I missed.
Tommy Fury was saying that Jake Paul is not a boxer, he is just a kid who plays with old people. Tommy said that he himself is a real boxer who will destroy Jake Paul and show the world that Paul is a clown and his place is not on the ring.Whaat? Just whaat? It turned into 50/50 match. Tommy Fury was training into boxing since childhood and training hard every day and Jake Paul was training for some years and guess what? He and Paul were on the same level. This only shows that if there is a rematch, Jake will beat his ass. Statistically, Jake manages to improve a lot in a short time-frame compared to Fury.
March 02, 2023, 02:56:25 PM
What do you think about this? Isn't this a shame from Fury to ask Paul money after wining the match without signing a contract? If they lose, they would then say that they haven't signed a contract and Jake Deserves no money.
I think John Fury is trying to play smart here by asking for double payment when initially he didn't sign the contract in the first instance, because I'm sure he must be regretting now and wishing he had signed it, because in as much as he never presented the contract in public signed just as Jake Paul did before the fight, he has no right to ask for double payment. John Fury lacks confidence about himself which is why I he failed to sign that contract, so it will be better he just forget about it and stop creating a scene on social media March 02, 2023, 02:26:14 PM
Both of them will not pay up. If Jake won, the Fury clan will also not give all to Jake. Theres the reason why they have not signed the contract.
True that this drama is yet not over. Since they already have fought, it would be easier for them to once again set up a ring for a rematch to maybe settle that doubled-up contract.
Could the verbal agreement be considered in court?
March 02, 2023, 01:21:42 PM
an endless saga just to keep making people talk about them.
be careful in some jurisdictions even a verbal agreement or a simple handshake could potentially be valid
(there is such a thing here in Italy)...
https://www.laleggepertutti.it/123552_la-stretta-di-mano-vale-come-contratto
be careful in some jurisdictions even a verbal agreement or a simple handshake could potentially be valid
(there is such a thing here in Italy)...https://www.laleggepertutti.it/123552_la-stretta-di-mano-vale-come-contratto
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Therefore, to answer the question "what is the value of a handshake", we must answer by saying that it has the same value as a signature on a sheet of paper, provided that the parties explicitly wanted to commit themselves and not postpone the deed to a later moment definitive.
... (text translated with google)
Therefore, to answer the question "what is the value of a handshake", we must answer by saying that it has the same value as a signature on a sheet of paper, provided that the parties explicitly wanted to commit themselves and not postpone the deed to a later moment definitive.
... (text translated with google)
March 02, 2023, 12:47:53 PM
I think they should never have shook hands on it until after the contract was signed. Handshake is a gentleman's agreement but it won't hold up in court. Fury didn't hold up his end of the gentleman's agreement by not signing the contract. So he shouldn't be paid double, even by the terms of the handshake.
Tommy Fury being a boxer from a famous boxing family, I think there was a tremendous amount of pressure on him to beat the "youtuber" in Jake Paul. This caused Tommy Fury to fight below his normal level. Jake Paul might also have been sick. Not certain, still need to watch the first 5 rounds of the fight which I missed.
How many pay per views did the fight sell? That will be the main question going forward. Jake Paul hasn't sold many PPVs since he began making gay innuendos to market his 2nd fight with Tyron Woodley and done other things which may have alienated the fight world against him.
Tommy Fury being a boxer from a famous boxing family, I think there was a tremendous amount of pressure on him to beat the "youtuber" in Jake Paul. This caused Tommy Fury to fight below his normal level. Jake Paul might also have been sick. Not certain, still need to watch the first 5 rounds of the fight which I missed.
How many pay per views did the fight sell? That will be the main question going forward. Jake Paul hasn't sold many PPVs since he began making gay innuendos to market his 2nd fight with Tyron Woodley and done other things which may have alienated the fight world against him.
March 02, 2023, 12:06:53 PM
What do you think about this? Isn't this a shame from Fury to ask Paul money after wining the match without signing a contract? If they lose, they would then say that they haven't signed a contract and Jake Deserves no money.
didn't sign the contract? then, no double payment. it is simple as that, but then again, I am not surprised since money is involved and it is not a small amount. also, if Tommy Furry lost I am certain that they wouldn't have mentioned anything about the contract and if jake paul mention anything about it, they would have said they didn't sign that contract. March 02, 2023, 11:39:21 AM
Both of them will not pay up. If Jake won, the Fury clan will also not give all to Jake. Theres the reason why they have not signed the contract.
True that this drama is yet not over. Since they already have fought, it would be easier for them to once again set up a ring for a rematch to maybe settle that doubled-up contract.
Could the verbal agreement be considered in court?
March 02, 2023, 11:18:58 AM
Yeah I saw him on Twitter asking JP to cough up. They didn’t sign the contract (allegedly) so legally I don’t think there’s much that can be done. If there was a gentleman's agreement though then JP should cough up, it wouldn’t make him much of a man if he doesn’t.
Of course this could all be WWE style pageantry designed to stir up beef to create excitement regarding a potential rematch. Let’s sit back & enjoy the show, pass the popcorn.
Of course this could all be WWE style pageantry designed to stir up beef to create excitement regarding a potential rematch. Let’s sit back & enjoy the show, pass the popcorn.
March 02, 2023, 11:16:38 AM
Obviously Tommy Fury didn't sign the contract so it wasn't valid. If Tommy lost then his Dad wouldn't be saying that Tommy needs to pay. This is just a troll move to stick it to Jake Paul one more time.
I was a bit surprised to read that Logan Paul now says he wants to avenge his brother Jake's loss to Tommy by knocking Tommy Fury out himself. Personally, it seems to me like Jake is the better boxer, but maybe that's a casual take. Logan probably sizes up better length wise which is what hurt Jake in the fight, but I still think Jake has a lot more power and boxing skills. This drama certainly isn't over yet...
I was a bit surprised to read that Logan Paul now says he wants to avenge his brother Jake's loss to Tommy by knocking Tommy Fury out himself. Personally, it seems to me like Jake is the better boxer, but maybe that's a casual take. Logan probably sizes up better length wise which is what hurt Jake in the fight, but I still think Jake has a lot more power and boxing skills. This drama certainly isn't over yet...
March 02, 2023, 11:04:35 AM
What do you think about this? Isn't this a shame from Fury to ask Paul money after wining the match without signing a contract?
The offer was fairly clearly made and it was his idea. This is probably free advertising for him now though and presumably the "he shouldn't have to pay it" sentiment is part of that if it's a majority view because it makes him look better when he does.
March 02, 2023, 06:13:16 AM
I think it worth a little discussing.
It's known for everyone that Jake Paul's lawyers made an All or Nothing contract and Jake asked Tommy Fury to sign it. The term of contract was following: - [Jake] If I win, I take all the money you're being paid. If you win, I double it up.
During that moment, John Fury interfered and told Jake Paul: You've got my word as the head of the Fury clan, he will definitely sign that. You've got my word on that.
After saying that, John Fury shook his hand, as did Tommy too.
Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1629291192306532352
But Fury didn't sign the contract. Later then someone asked him about the all or nothing contract and you can clearly see what was his response, he was always trying to get rid of it: https://www.tiktok.com/@betr/video/7204576968606485803?_r=1&_t=8aJ73JIpOsb
After the end of fight, Fury comes and asks Jake Paul for double money because he lost the fight.
Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1630943761739010048
What do you think about this? Isn't this a shame from Fury to ask Paul money after wining the match without signing a contract? If they lose, they would then say that they haven't signed a contract and Jake Deserves no money.
It's known for everyone that Jake Paul's lawyers made an All or Nothing contract and Jake asked Tommy Fury to sign it. The term of contract was following: - [Jake] If I win, I take all the money you're being paid. If you win, I double it up.
During that moment, John Fury interfered and told Jake Paul: You've got my word as the head of the Fury clan, he will definitely sign that. You've got my word on that.
After saying that, John Fury shook his hand, as did Tommy too.
Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1629291192306532352
But Fury didn't sign the contract. Later then someone asked him about the all or nothing contract and you can clearly see what was his response, he was always trying to get rid of it: https://www.tiktok.com/@betr/video/7204576968606485803?_r=1&_t=8aJ73JIpOsb
After the end of fight, Fury comes and asks Jake Paul for double money because he lost the fight.
Here is the video: https://twitter.com/i/status/1630943761739010048
What do you think about this? Isn't this a shame from Fury to ask Paul money after wining the match without signing a contract? If they lose, they would then say that they haven't signed a contract and Jake Deserves no money.
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