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Topic: Jointhebitcoincloud.com | Bitcoin Mining Pool | Proportional 0% Fees (Read 2526 times)

legendary
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Needs more jiggawatts
Must... leave it... be...
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legendary
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Ruu \o/
How can a pool take 1/4 to 1/3 of the block rewards if it pays out 100% of the block rewards?

To actually understand pool hopping and pool reward systems start here: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/5072/what-is-pool-hopping
For the details, read Meni Rosenfeld's analysis of pool reward systems: https://bitcoil.co.il/pool_analysis.pdf
You're doing it again Doc...
legendary
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Needs more jiggawatts
you ever wonder why they went from a 1 to 2% fee on porpotional, to a 0% fee on PPLNS, cause they dont need fees when they take 1/4 to 1/3 of the block rewards anyways

How can a pool take 1/4 to 1/3 of the block rewards if it pays out 100% of the block rewards?

To actually understand pool hopping and pool reward systems start here: http://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/5072/what-is-pool-hopping
For the details, read Meni Rosenfeld's analysis of pool reward systems: https://bitcoil.co.il/pool_analysis.pdf
newbie
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Hi All,

The pool is proportional I have also removed the fees so now you can enjoy with 0% fees. For more information on the payouts please refer to the following URL

https://jointhebitcoincloud.com/index.php?page=tac

Regards,

Jointhebitcoincloud.com
hero member
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Maybe do a block porpotional pool. meaning you get paid for the amount of average hash you put into a solved block, if you pool hop your average will lower. it would be easy to code something like this in to give you a 15 minute average, 1 hour average, 4 hour average,  6 hour average all the way up to a 1 day average. once you leave the pool it drops your average rate thus lowering your reward. So the pool leaders went from a hoppable "unfair" proportional system to a PPLNS system that is not fair to the miners but greatly profitable for the pool itself. ( you ever wonder why they went from a 1 to 2% fee on porpotional, to a 0% fee on PPLNS, cause they dont need fees when they take 1/4 to 1/3 of the block rewards anyways) There were a million ways to solve a hopable proportional system that was both fair to the users as well as the pool, but instead the pools want their cake and eat it to. I would bet my car that 80% of the PPLNS pools make more in BTC than they pay in rewards per block solved, I 100 % guarantee Ghash.io makes most of the % of a rewards a lot more than its members do Smiley
legendary
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Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
It's not PPLNS, it's Prop.
That's the one that shouldn't be used by any pools any more.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1146110
"Hoppability"

You should research the payout schemes before running a pool ...

Edit: your thread title says "Proportional 2% Fees" and you don't mention what a "round" is.
So if I'm wrong about it being Prop, then mention in the first post what a "round" is.
hero member
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Another PPLNS pool, AWESOME Ill hop right on your 1 thash of mining power, maybe by this time next year we can solve a block where as you will make 25 BTC and I will make 0.4 BTC YEAAAAAAAA.
newbie
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SIGN UP URL:
https://jointhebitcoincloud.com/index.php?page=register

Stratum URL:
stratum+tcp://jointhebitcoincloud.com:3333

Why should I mine at this Bitcoin pool?

Bitcoins are only ever created in 25 BTC at a time. Furthermore, the challenge to reach the 25 BTC prize in a given block is highly competitive. The bigger the pool the faster and higher the rewards for users.

If you set out mining on your own, it will take an extremely long time to generate 1 block unless you have a large amount of ASIC hardware. Pooled mining allows you to receive smaller, more frequent, steadier payouts instead whilst working as a team to find a block. If you have a slower ASIC miner or still using a GPU then pooled mining may be the only way that you will ever mine any bitcoins at all.

How are rewards processed?

This 25 BTC is divided among all of the users that contributed to that round, weighted by the number of shares that they earned. Therefore, the reward earned by a given user is given by the following formula:

(25 BTC + block fees - 0% fee) * (shares found by user's workers) / (total shares in current round)
When the pool mines a block, only users who worked on that block are rewarded, and only for work they did on that block. We reward users with 2BTC for the first 10 blocks found in the pool.

Key features

DDOS Prevention Service
Frequent Server Backups
IRC Web Chat
3 Confirmations on payouts
BTC rewards for block finders

How do I get started?

1. Install a Bitcoin miner on your computer or rent a mining service

This mining software is currently supported:

CGMINER

BFGminer

Tested Hashing Rental Services:

https://nicehash.com Tested up to 500 TH.
https://betarigs.com

How do I contact you if you have any questions

https://twitter.com/jointhebtccloud
IRC #jointhebitcoincloud.com
E-mail: [email protected]

Happy Mining!

Regards,

Aaron (Jointhebitcoincloud.com)

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