Topic: JulSwap CEO Concerns (Read 144 times)

Legitimate companies will answer simple questions like this:
which are a basic need reference for literate investors before further researching on any company. I think no bullshit here, this is the result of research from dozens of random reviews from people who didn't get an answer because you blocked them. Unfortunately, the internet is too broad and won't filter out the negative reviews you don't want and lead to the conclusion that your inability to answer reflects that these stuffs don't really exist.


Enjoy what you did :-)

it is not like the binance launchpad. Julpad is fully decentralized and all can list there it is not our decision. Like on uniswap all can list there and no one controls it.

Based on your status on bitcointalk I think you understand the difference.

Hey Guys I think you need to do a proper research before talking such shit into the world :-D

Bitdepositary Now known as MIMA (https://twitter.com/mimadottech read the BIO) finished a total product which made the 04th Rank on Ripple Hackaton. (proof https://devpost.com/software/verified-payid) but yes unfortunately no one liked KYC in the past but now the time changed and we integrated the KYC into JulWallet and use it as decentralized integrated KYC which is one of the best protections for all users.

Token From MIMA / Bitdepositary:
98% from the total supply or even little bit more are in my hands and not sold and there is liquidity on the market so no one gathered any investment and did not deliver guys.

Moonberg I was attend yes not a question and it did not work as well not a question but it as no scam and no Ponzi, it simple have had one problem and after I saw the problem is stopped it and I personal refunded a big amount to the people and all other people vanished. Around 90-95% made huge money and the rest made maybe slightly loss. This numbers are better then 99% of all crypto tokens because normal 90-95% make loss and the rest profit so think about it.

My serious advise for you guys look for some job or something to waste your time but this informations and sentences from you are 100% trash and I love you all but some are a little bit more intelligent and some not this is normal.

Have a nice day :-)

Ciao

many thanks for your report. i sold all my coins today because of your report and i am happy for that I hope every get notice that to avoid to be scammed.

Just want to add more. It appears that JulSwap has launched their new product (JulPad) which is something like Binance's Launchpad meant to be used for fundraising. By looking at the projects listed there, for me, it looks like just another attempt to steal from their users, even more, especially since their exchange is having low liquidity and trading volume lately, and their coin is also being dumped (started even before the crash).

I remember Tobias graf created the Bitdepositary got failed but he manage to get money from investors and then he creates Moonberg a ponzi scheme which also wrecked his investors then gather million of dollars from it https://behindmlm.com/mlm-reviews/moonberg-review-mooncoin-ponzi-token-investment.

I will not be surprise if Julswap if fall and became scam in future so beware on this guys, always DYOR.

I've done some digging and I can definitely see a pattern. Probably some related projects:

- TuttiFruttiFinance
- Chumhum (soon to be launched).

and a few others.

The problem with (some) of the above projects is that they had absolutely zero online presence before being listed or making a partnership with JulSwap exchange.

I've tried to point these things in the chat on Telegram, and I got banned (instantly), just like you did.

The project might have received some funding from the Binance accelerator fund but this doesn't necessarily mean that the people behind it are legit. So be careful.

Hi all,
Trying to post this as wide as I can because of my worries regarding this exchange:

Stumbled on the Julswap exchange today - tied with the BSC - and dug into some deeper things that have given me pause and want to let people know what I've found.

The major issue is the CEO, Tobias Graf, who's previous (and current) corporations and endeavours from what I've found have had bad results, with labels of 'scam' and 'ponzi' being levelled.

Any current projects, such as Julswap/Justliquidty are light on info regarding the team - no whitepapers, no roadmaps, no tokenomics, no easily accessible idea of who is running the company or creating the backend - from an article the team has been found (though even some of those links are dead) and the same faces have crept up before.

Not make or break by any means but this seems to be a repeated pattern business after business. Same faces, same vague wording, absolutely zero transparency or insight into business plans, roadmaps, or strategies.

Moonbergs had a lot of bad press and failures.
See: Telegram: moonbergprofits

https://medium.com/@thatbastard/why-the-sec-have-set-their-sights-on-crypto-companies-like-moonberg-io-7b78dd30083a

Bitdepository had worse. (website gone)

https://www.coinopsy.com/dead-coins/bitdepositary/

Both run by Graf.

He is currently listed as the owner of a limited liability holding company in Germany ( TGG Holding GmbH) - a prudent move for many businesses I understand - though it is attached to more hollow companies such as Quutech (no website) and KYCcrypto.

All of which have none of the materials one would expect (team, about, roadmaps etc,) the same as Moonbergs, the same as Bitdepository (and previously Cryptoorders). The same team and names have been present in Quutech, KYC.Crypto and now Julswap - but it takes some digging to find out even that.
Dobuy and Maria are connected to all these 'companies' with just as much vapid placeholders.

I know companies start and fail, and entrepreneurs continue to try and try, teams can stick together, but the lack of transparency or depth each and every time outside of a basic page is a red flag. Four or five companies with bad histories, no roadmaps, or lack of substance is a cause for concern - if nothing else Julswap as a business entity needs to be examined as to why Graf is their choice for CEO at all.

Julswap, in and of itself, has a good approach and community from the looks of things, but that is a separate issue than the CEO.

AFAIK the recent attempt to get onto Binance by Julb/Juld was rejected due to concerns over the CEO. For the future of the exchange would it not make sense to have some public discourse over his previous companies and address claims of Graf's checkered history that doesn't deliver or rug pull?

EDIT: After someone informed me of Graf's connected to an NFT Role Playing Game I took a quick look around what I could and to me 'Order of the Black Rose' seems to be even more sparse and suspicious than the limited nonsense from above websites/companies.

The three people 'doxxed' on the website include Tobias Graf, as 'advisor', alongside one developer and the owner. The owner has no presence whatsoever except his Twitter feed which started the same time OBR was released last year and does nothing but retweet OBR posts, which themselves are just more (IMO ugly as shit photoshopped) NFT 'artworks' from the game.

There is NO roadmap, no timeline, no updates, and no idea when, if, or how, this game will be released or created, or distributed. The "Senior Developer' is Amit Mehta is listed as working at two other companies, both of which have websites from 2018 with no clients, no staff, no projects, and vague jibberish explanations of what they offer. These are (were)

https://www.accucia.com/
which has no twitter and no real online presence. It's software interface also seems very similar to others I've encountered on Graf's websites (or Apollo.io which may or may not be connected)

but more importantly:
https://genxhq.com/

This company is where Amit Mehta works. It is also created by Rohit Changediya,who some of you might know as being Chief Technology Officer at JustLiquidity AKA Julswap. And was previously/is CTO at KYC Crypto.

To me? This is all shady as feck.

Yes. People work together. Yes people can have many projects.

But Graf, Order of the Black Rose, Julswap, Genx...and on and on. It's company after company after company. No transparency, no roadmaps, no plans, no details, no teams, nothing of substance on ANY of these pages, groups, twitters, facebook. I am extremely wary of OBR or Julswap having seen this level of opaque interconnections.

UPDATE: I was banned from the Julswap telegram for asking such inflammatory questions as:
Can I see a roadmap or your white paper?
Why does the CEO delete comments in the Telegram?
And of course:
Why is it so hard to get an answer?
Real hard-hitting investigative stuff I'm sure you'll all agree

I ADVISE ALL TO BE VERY VERY CAREFUL OF JULSWAP

I want to talk some of the posters on this forum from a couple years back for helping provide some insight into Graf's dealings and previous companies. I found this original thread.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crypto-youtuber-ghandiji-declares-moonberg-a-scam-5183194

TLDR: Be wary of JulSwap and Order of the Black Rose NFTs