Topic: 🌟Just seen someone win $42,000 in btc on bitvest.🌟 (Read 885 times)
Having a big bankroll really matters if your main goal is to win big. You will be putting up huge amount with ease but also the person must have courageous and impressive mental faculties to pull off such a big risk. Small risk gives small profits. That is the point of gambling, you must give big to win big. And I am impressed because the guy who won this much really prepared himself mentally for such a risky task. Just be careful the next time he wants to bet big again because he might lose it all the next time.
There are also people who win those amounts.
My question is "How many did he lose in order to win those money?"
I guess that his loss till then was more over 60 BTC and this profit didn't even make him even his bets...
This is true because we dont know on how much he lost before he do able to hit up the win unless if we can see on site history or statistics then thats the time we can really say that he did really make profit My question is "How many did he lose in order to win those money?"
I guess that his loss till then was more over 60 BTC and this profit didn't even make him even his bets...
unless if thats a new account and the other old account do have big loss thats why he decide to make a new one.This is why its really hard to say or conclude that they do make money for a certain player
even he do win some big amount but doesnt mean that he's already on the positive side knowing that gamblers are always on negative but actually having these kind of big hits does really give out some boost.
I guess that his loss till then was more over 60 BTC and this profit didn't even make him even his bets...
You could say that but with his stats hidden in the site there's no way to tell if his overall profit was in the positive or negative. We could also assume that he lost in the start then made it all back with those huge wins. One thing we do know is that the investors profit was chunked down to 5 btc at one point and the investor's bankroll was down by 200 btc.
We've had N8snathan, a massive whale slamming max or near-max bets for the past few weeks and he's on a winning streak now. He brought us up from 48 to 69.5 profit, and now due to his luck has brought us down to 5.
There are also people who win those amounts.
My question is "How many did he lose in order to win those money?"
I guess that his loss till then was more over 60 BTC and this profit didn't even make him even his bets...
My question is "How many did he lose in order to win those money?"
I guess that his loss till then was more over 60 BTC and this profit didn't even make him even his bets...
We don't know the fact on this but one thing we know that any gambler can win that amount in one night, there have been a lot of reports of gamblers also winning that amount but they are asked to undergo a lot of verification before they can claim their rewards, there are a lot of reports like that in the scam section, some gambling sites are not comfortable if their clients wins a huge amount, but not with Bitvest they are glad if their client won.
It depends actually, with no planning even with hiuge bankroll, you can still lose it all especially when a losestreak and unable to think straight. But men for $42,000 that's pretty much huge even for me, and would tilt in games if i lose consecutive matches. How did he stay calm even with that.
Casino sites should have features like what games he's playing. So we can spectate, if that's allowed.
Casino sites should have features like what games he's playing. So we can spectate, if that's allowed.
So on bitvest with in 12 hours or so max betting and won over 60 btc.
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
Does any winning happens after this?i mean Big like this in Bitvest?just curious of this really happens or just a luring strategy.He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
since the Thread starter seems wearing their Signature and becomes sleeping since 2017.
Even huge than bitvest + enough lucky charm = a possibility that they may win enough but not exactly they'll beat the edge. Probably short term play but the longer the player plays I don't think he can even beat it.
I haven't encounter any players that beat the edge alone though, maybe Blackjack.
i don't think theres a beating happen instead the story is about the player winning that 42k$ .I haven't encounter any players that beat the edge alone though, maybe Blackjack.
Wish one day i will have that luck also.
So on bitvest with in 12 hours or so max betting and won over 60 btc.
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
First this proves Bitvest and 777coin are legit and the owner is responsible in paying this Big winnings thinking that back then the price of Bitcoin is so cheap.He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
Second this person is really in luck because after losing he comes to recover and win 42k.
Wuuh, congrats to this guy, the luck was with him haha, anyway congrats 
after more than 4 years?maybe this winner had lose more than what he won 4 years ago . Although this is an old post this guy was just lucky.He played with a big amount and won those rolls but if you don’t quit you will lose everything.
my guess is that he was betting a not so big amount and loose and then he bets a slight bigger and then looses again and his last bet could be verry huge and he got lucky to win it but its win couldnt be consider really big due to his past red bets .That is also the strategy slots providers use with their slot machines,they entice you by giving a lot of winning combinations when playing with minimal bet and soon as you increase then it is soon game over.
not only on slots but this is what i notice somtimes on other games . not only we but other players also complain with this . i dont know if its true or just a coincedence because if we see other big gamblers win huge with big bets My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
Beating the house needs a huge bankroll. Way higher than that lucky guy has used to win on Bitvest.Congrats to him/her though. This is pure luck indeed
.I don't gamble most of the time but I didn't hear any news that a house has been beaten by a single gambler or at least a group of gamblers.
This was in 2016, really nice winning streak. But we don't know how much money he lost first before winning like this.
Did anyone saw this gambler again? Would be nice to know if he kept winning like this or if it was just a one time thing.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
Beating the house needs a huge bankroll. Way higher than that lucky guy has used to win on Bitvest.Congrats to him/her though. This is pure luck indeed
.I don't gamble most of the time but I didn't hear any news that a house has been beaten by a single gambler or at least a group of gamblers.
To be able to win big at gambling you have to use a large bankroll too. I say this from experience me during gambling.
And to be able to win like in the opening post, I believe we have to suffer a big defeat too. And I'm not sure the profit
he got is still being stored up until now. Because the big bettor is like in the opening post definitely often play gambling
with the big bankroll too. It is possible that the profits he get will run out in the same year.
And to be able to win like in the opening post, I believe we have to suffer a big defeat too. And I'm not sure the profit
he got is still being stored up until now. Because the big bettor is like in the opening post definitely often play gambling
with the big bankroll too. It is possible that the profits he get will run out in the same year.
I wonder if there are still more people from the forum who were able to pull this kind of stuff as is a huge amount of money just to make some fun so he must have some skills or techniques in winning it and not just full of luck.
I believe in luck but I am not sure if there are gamblers who will test their luck to this kind of stuff by wagering this huge amount of money. If this is definitely genuine then I congrats this gambler with a salute as he/she is so brave or he/she just have plenty of money to spare.
I believe in luck but I am not sure if there are gamblers who will test their luck to this kind of stuff by wagering this huge amount of money. If this is definitely genuine then I congrats this gambler with a salute as he/she is so brave or he/she just have plenty of money to spare.
Wuuh, congrats to this guy, the luck was with him haha, anyway congrats
Even huge than bitvest + enough lucky charm = a possibility that they may win enough but not exactly they'll beat the edge. Probably short term play but the longer the player plays I don't think he can even beat it.
I haven't encounter any players that beat the edge alone though, maybe Blackjack.
I haven't encounter any players that beat the edge alone though, maybe Blackjack.
This is an old post from 2016 so I hope you guys know that,,, but still relevant to talk about what he did with the 55 or 60 BTC since then! which is over $1 million dollars today!
I play at Bitvest sometimes but never seen that guy around. The 20 BTC winner from a few months back was also impressive.
I play at Bitvest sometimes but never seen that guy around. The 20 BTC winner from a few months back was also impressive.
Huge wins has a story behind it. One may be lucky with his small bet that relatively increases wins by consecutive winnings in the game. But this is very rare or not the common thing that will happen because most of the time gamblers loss all the time in betting. Another thing that huge win happen is due to high bets. Of course huge bets could lead to huge wins but also one is possible to make huge losses first before he got that wins. This is how things work for a gambler. Well jusy let that guy roll for more. I think he was having fun and excitement though with the bets and win he made.
I believe it is 55 more or less btc mate and not 60+? Correct me if I'm wrong but that is how my computation says about your photo.
55 is still a huge amount of btc . 1 year later the price of btc pump but i doubt if he have some btc left because he was also a big bettor . he is lucky if he decide to kept his btc a year or more for savings . big bankrollGamblers will always gamble and for people like him?55 btc is just a peanut we are only looking how much he won but what about the amount he already lose?
This is the problem in Gambling where people always looking for your win but never asked how much is your capital before winning that big amount.
He might spend more than 100BTC who knows?
But one thing is clear here that Bitvest is a legit gambling site lol.
I believe it is 55 more or less btc mate and not 60+? Correct me if I'm wrong but that is how my computation says about your photo.
55 is still a huge amount of btc . 1 year later the price of btc pump but i doubt if he have some btc left because he was also a big bettor . he is lucky if he decide to kept his btc a year or more for savings . big bankrollI believe it is 55 more or less btc mate and not 60+? Correct me if I'm wrong but that is how my computation says about your photo.
55 is still a huge amount of btc . 1 year later the price of btc pump but i doubt if he have some btc left because he was also a big bettor . he is lucky if he decide to kept his btc a year or more for savings . big bankrollQuote
Anyway about the question there are no proof that large enough bankroll can surely beat the house edge
there was a thread here before , i think that was from desiek where he shows a proof about beating the house edge . im a long time player and i tried playing with small and big balance and i can say that big balance will have you more chance of winning . adding skills and strat can add a chance too 
So on bitvest with in 12 hours or so max betting and won over 60 btc.
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
I believe it is 55 more or less btc mate and not 60+? Correct me if I'm wrong but that is how my computation says about your photo.He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
Anyway about the question there are no proof that large enough bankroll can surely beat the house edge but since this is gambling LUCK can sometimes change the situation and even smaller bank roll can have a chance to win over house but this is very rare and isolated cases only and the Key is only luck and no other strategy.
Though this man is really with luck that time,maybe try to monitor more the activity of the said player if he continues winning or just that day.
I don’t think so. Large bankroll ensures you to have a longer time playing in a casino but does not gurantee you a win IMO. Unless you’re really lucky that is, then maybe there’s a chance to beat the casino in one way or another, but that’s really a rare occurrence. The user might have beaten the house for this instance, but there’s no guarantee that he’d be able to do it again and again since the house always wins.
Any particular reason why you're bumping this thread for 2016?
Or did the person you're replying to delete their post?
Now that its updated though then the game is up now for bombing the thread once again! LOL
Its once in a lifetime jackpot, it rarely happen to win the 2nd time around but 60BTC must be worth big, this is the time where BTC started to roll up til 2017 rally.
60 BTC is more than 42K now, I'm not sure if OP had already gambled everything he won last 2016 but I would like to see some lucky gamblers who won even just 10BTC in the casino. Bitvest and 777 are among the oldest casinos in crypto, I'm sure there are lucky ones up there.
Either this fellow is someone from Bitvest.io management or extremely lucky! The second one is highly possible.
There's no way to beat the house using a large bankroll. As per the website, Bitvest maintains an average bankroll size of around 1080 bitcoins. So I am sure it is the case of a pure luck and nothing else because the winning chance doesn't depend on the size of the bankroll.
I wish I can also win such amount so that I can pay-off my mortgage at once!
There's no way to beat the house using a large bankroll. As per the website, Bitvest maintains an average bankroll size of around 1080 bitcoins. So I am sure it is the case of a pure luck and nothing else because the winning chance doesn't depend on the size of the bankroll.
I wish I can also win such amount so that I can pay-off my mortgage at once!
I don’t think so. Large bankroll ensures you to have a longer time playing in a casino but does not gurantee you a win IMO. Unless you’re really lucky that is, then maybe there’s a chance to beat the casino in one way or another, but that’s really a rare occurrence. The user might have beaten the house for this instance, but there’s no guarantee that he’d be able to do it again and again since the house always wins.
Any particular reason why you're bumping this thread for 2016?
Or did the person you're replying to delete their post?
This is awesome win, but for big winnings you need to have big capital! We can't see what games he played, and his bets.
I would like to see his history, I wonder about did he had some strategy or this is just lucky bet with huge capital?
Anyway congratulations to this gambler. I am sure that winning this much is very exciting! I hope he will not give it back in casino,
he should withdraw and spend it on other things, and to put something in saving account!
I would like to see his history, I wonder about did he had some strategy or this is just lucky bet with huge capital?
Anyway congratulations to this gambler. I am sure that winning this much is very exciting! I hope he will not give it back in casino,
he should withdraw and spend it on other things, and to put something in saving account!
That's a big win in less than a days time. Whether anyone have an idea regarding the game played by him. He is a strong person, because very few have the mind to take such a big risk, because with the amount risked a person in a third world country can lead a peaceful life with his family meeting all his basic needs.
I don’t think so. Large bankroll ensures you to have a longer time playing in a casino but does not gurantee you a win IMO. Unless you’re really lucky that is, then maybe there’s a chance to beat the casino in one way or another, but that’s really a rare occurrence. The user might have beaten the house for this instance, but there’s no guarantee that he’d be able to do it again and again since the house always wins.
The size of your bankroll has nothing to do with your odds of winning. It only makes your winnings bigger and on a lucky streak this can show like in the example you posted.
If it goes the other way, it goes just as bad. The next few bets could've been losing 42,000 in btc or more.
The size of the bankroll only results in more spectacular wins or losses. Not more wins or losses.
If it goes the other way, it goes just as bad. The next few bets could've been losing 42,000 in btc or more.
The size of the bankroll only results in more spectacular wins or losses. Not more wins or losses.
Is it possible to win this much amount in gambling sites 
or is it just advertisement for the site and i believe that they have got many new players after seeing this big win and just curious ,is this member in bitcointalk ,i highly doubt that if so he would have boasted his win 
or is it just advertisement for the site and i believe that they have got many new players after seeing this big win and just curious ,is this member in bitcointalk ,i highly doubt that if so he would have boasted his win Oh its possible all bets are provably fair so they can be confirmed .By just going to the site you see him max betting non stop.
Is it possible to win this much amount in gambling sites or is it just advertisement for the site and i believe that they have got many new players after seeing this big win and just curious ,is this member in bitcointalk ,i highly doubt that if so he would have boasted his win
or is it just advertisement for the site and i believe that they have got many new players after seeing this big win and just curious ,is this member in bitcointalk ,i highly doubt that if so he would have boasted his win 
That's was only largest win statistic it doesn't mean he has won that much money, we do not know how that has been spent by him for that
Indeed, but I believe it does not matter on how much he has spent to win such decent amount. I believe he is still in a great profit. Anyway is there any ways on bitvest to check other player's stats? Just curious how much is his profit so far.
Technically yes it is possible but it's just very very unlikely. What he did was very lucky and I highly doubt that he would continue making money if he kept on his betting strategy.
You can only beat the house edge if you got very lucky. Like that guy and it happen that he has a huge bankroll and the balls. I dunno why those who have a huge bankroll, they are the one who won big amount and it always happen. The higher the risk, the higher in return.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
short answer, NO! he just got lucky in those bets, but if he will continue playing he will eventually bust because of the house edge, we all know that don't we?
So on bitvest with in 12 hours or so max betting and won over 60 btc.
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
Wow! This is amazing, I knew it that there are some people who are very lucky. And I admit it, that I am not able to beat this person.
But having a large bank roll will help you to keep on playing and give you a lot of chances and tries to win some good profit.
And the fact is I don't know even someone will have large bankroll still there is no assurance that we are able to beat him.
Well some of the investors must be said but the site profit went from +60btc to +1btc its already back up to +17 btc profit so they are earning some back and pretty quickly.
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i think it is possible. although i have never tested this but i believe that with a strategy like martingale if you start from a very small bet size and have a very huge bankroll you can win and beat the house.
That's impossible, No matter how big your coins, you'll lossing/beaten by house edge. Martinshit is the worst startegy ever, if you want to try, put your 1 btc on a gambling site and set your base bet from 1 satoshi then.i think it is possible. although i have never tested this but i believe that with a strategy like martingale if you start from a very small bet size and have a very huge bankroll you can win and beat the house.
This is my first time to see largest profit from gambling it is hard to win their honestly and yeah according to your question if there is no bet limitation and you bet either huge amount of btc you can defeat the house.. or you can make more profit.
Congrats to N8snathan that he is lucky to make such a large amount of profit..
Congrats to N8snathan that he is lucky to make such a large amount of profit..
That's was only largest win statistic it doesn't mean he has won that much money, we do not know how that has been spent by him for that
Off course larger bankroll will help you to win big amount which will be loss for house without any question. If all goes well with bigger bets you need fewer winning streaks else you will loose all your money. This guy's bets clearly show that he took great risk and won he was lucky. This simply will not be for him or anyone else to be seen again.
what you told is correct it is purely luck , what if all that bets got lost then he would have been in full loss, so he took a big risk and earned a profit. But it is not recommended.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
No. As the moderator of a gambling site, you should know this.Congrats to N8snathan for his win! Should have cashed out my investment when I was up 0.01+BTC, but unfortunately it's down 0.02BTC now. Hopefully he stays around and ends up losing more than he wins.
Damn! What a great win, I bet the casino was fuming
Congratulations to the winning gambler though, I hope he enjoys the big win.
Nah, BitVest was probably very happy. Nathan brought a lot of volume to the site, causing a lot of commission to be taken from investors (mine is 0.01BTC). While they probably had an investment, they were probably happier to see a winner as it's good PR and they would still be in profit or have a small loss in that period of time. Congratulations to the winning gambler though, I hope he enjoys the big win.
Damn! What a great win, I bet the casino was fuming
Congratulations to the winning gambler though, I hope he enjoys the big win.
Congratulations to the winning gambler though, I hope he enjoys the big win.
Wow, this kind of victory doesn't happen every day... It's very rarely to happen. But congratulations for him, very lucky guy.
This is a big loss for the casino, but it's a good marketing also, people will see this guy victory and will want to play there also, because it's a casino where someone really earned a bunch of money and many other will try to do the same thing, but probably they will lose.
This is a big loss for the casino, but it's a good marketing also, people will see this guy victory and will want to play there also, because it's a casino where someone really earned a bunch of money and many other will try to do the same thing, but probably they will lose.
That is a huge win, definitely a whale in gambling, i have seen these type of whales in gambling sites wagging big and losing some and winning some but interesting i have not heard anyone boasting about the win or crying about the loss in bitcointalk ,i do not know why and i have not seen any sites advertising this huge win which is really a boost to the sites traffic.
is possible see the entire stats of this users? For see if in anothert day have lose already more bitcoin ?
or already see the bet, if for example bet 2 bitcoin for time at 2x, or if bet 0,1 with 2% of probability
or already see the bet, if for example bet 2 bitcoin for time at 2x, or if bet 0,1 with 2% of probability
Nope can't see users stats only whats in the leader boards or their bets on verification page.
I also believe we don't give out users info but if n8 chooses to do so that's fine.
is possible see the entire stats of this users? For see if in anothert day have lose already more bitcoin ?
or already see the bet, if for example bet 2 bitcoin for time at 2x, or if bet 0,1 with 2% of probability
or already see the bet, if for example bet 2 bitcoin for time at 2x, or if bet 0,1 with 2% of probability
seem a lucky one. he probably had won those BTCs as well from some other gambling site. I wonder why he just play on pure gambling site when there are better games where he can learn more than just nightingale strategy.
So on bitvest with in 12 hours or so max betting and won over 60 btc.
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
Wow, that's a nice profit. He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
no i don't believe house edge can be beaten by large bankroll, you just have to be lucky i guess to win big.
Having larger bankroll doesn't guarantee you profit or you can beat house. You need to be really lucky as well as preety rich to put high bets. Playing with high bets is also quite risky and you may need lots of bitcoin to cover your loss and get whatever you have lost back placing bet with even higher amount. Either you may end up wining big like this one or you will lost whatever you have.
in general it's impossible to beat the house edge even with big bankroll , the site should make money in the long run
but in case that the site don't manage the funds well and don't put wise max wins limits then it would be possible for the site to have 0 bankroll
that doesn't mean that the player beat the house edge cause he is expecting to make -BTC in the long run even if he was able to win all the funds in the casino , but it's just a bad management by the casino
but in case that the site don't manage the funds well and don't put wise max wins limits then it would be possible for the site to have 0 bankroll
that doesn't mean that the player beat the house edge cause he is expecting to make -BTC in the long run even if he was able to win all the funds in the casino , but it's just a bad management by the casino
Its not bad management from the casino the limits normally tank really low after big wins.
But after his big win people invested more making the limits going back up.
Prob hoping he would lose it all back and it didn't work out that way for them.
Plus he was max betting the whole time even if it adjusted if he keeps hitting max bets it adds up.
He has already lost back like 8 btc worth of it so for tho, so its possible the edge has caught up with him.
i think it is possible. although i have never tested this but i believe that with a strategy like martingale if you start from a very small bet size and have a very huge bankroll you can win and beat the house.
nah it's not possible even with martingale , history has proved that there is no way to beat the house edge unless you do what hufflepuff did
there will be a streak that will eat the whole bankroll with the profit , ( whatever your bankroll and the max win are , there is a point that you will bust martingaling )
Big bankroll does really matter when you intend to aim for big profits hence you could simply put up huge amount with ease depending on your decision unlike on having a small bankroll would really limits you. Higher risk means higher profit and that's what happen to the player that have been shown by Op and he's very lucky on that game for sure for t question, there are really times that the house would be beaten by its players but it's only for temporary.
So on bitvest with in 12 hours or so max betting and won over 60 btc.
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
this is just dumb luck and i never trust these super high bets because it is hard for me to believe that someone is willing to risk
a couple of thousands of dollars on a pure luck game.
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My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
i think it is possible. although i have never tested this but i believe that with a strategy like martingale if you start from a very small bet size and have a very huge bankroll you can win and beat the house.
Having a large bankroll does not in any way increases your possibility of winning what it does is if you choose to play with small amount to withstand unlucky streaks for a longer time, if you play huge bets then this increases variance and the results will vary more wildly, since he won big then I suppose he put huge bets, but he could have lost big too.
He is very lucky. Good for him for having a brave heart paying high stakes game. For me, I got nervous betting that amount as I am not used to that. 
He has the guts, and his braveness paid off. Though I did not recommend gambling, it depends on the player.
He has the guts, and his braveness paid off. Though I did not recommend gambling, it depends on the player.
in general it's impossible to beat the house edge even with big bankroll , the site should make money in the long run
but in case that the site don't manage the funds well and don't put wise max wins limits then it would be possible for the site to have 0 bankroll
that doesn't mean that the player beat the house edge cause he is expecting to make -BTC in the long run even if he was able to win all the funds in the casino , but it's just a bad management by the casino
but in case that the site don't manage the funds well and don't put wise max wins limits then it would be possible for the site to have 0 bankroll
that doesn't mean that the player beat the house edge cause he is expecting to make -BTC in the long run even if he was able to win all the funds in the casino , but it's just a bad management by the casino
Off course larger bankroll will help you to win big amount which will be loss for house without any question. If all goes well with bigger bets you need fewer winning streaks else you will loose all your money. This guy's bets clearly show that he took great risk and won he was lucky. This simply will not be for him or anyone else to be seen again.
Oh its happened before in the same fashion but it was 15 btc win over 12 hours.
This guy did the same thing just a different line and more drops he jst happened to win 60 btc.
Both were on plinko tho.
Off course larger bankroll will help you to win big amount which will be loss for house without any question. If all goes well with bigger bets you need fewer winning streaks else you will loose all your money. This guy's bets clearly show that he took great risk and won he was lucky. This simply will not be for him or anyone else to be seen again.
Only a person who is very lucky can beat the house for a short time of period, so if he is dare to take risk with large than it will get huge amount in return like that person got there, that is huge winning so congrats to the winner.
So on bitvest with in 12 hours or so max betting and won over 60 btc.
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
He was down a bit of btc then turned it into +60 profit.
My question to you "Can a person beat the edge with a large enough bank roll?"
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