Topic: Kill Syrians because Syrians are killing Syrians... (Read 593 times)

The suggestion that the United States give two fucks about 'freedom', 'peace', and 'democracy' in the Middle East, or in almost any other part of the world is a sick joke to anyone who is paying even a little bit of attention.  Unless, of course, they only pay attention to certified kosher U.S. media outlets.

This is not to say that any other major power is any better.  The Soviet Union made the U.S. look like angels back in the cold war days, and it's probably one of the main reasons we won the cold war.  Also, we probably were slightly better back in those days than we are now.  Not a lot however.

As an American it really is unfortunate to have to say this stuff, but I'm not going to close my eyes to the reality of the situation.  The U.S. foreign policy does seem to me to be about as close to pure evil as one can get.  Even in Vietnam where we sent psychos over to rape and murder, we also sent decent people who tried to limit the damage.  The My Lai massacre was a good case-in-point.  Now we just flood an area with pure psychos like ISIS.  Thanks Obama (Nobel peace prize winner) and Hillary Clinton.

In that simple statement alone there's not much logic. The US and Russia go to Syria under the pretense of saving the world from terrorists. Of course, that seems quite unlikely. The real reason is that somebody has their own interests over there. They want to exploit the resources and distract citizens of their own countries from the ridiculous things happening domestically. Then there's the people selling weapons and ammunition. They was as many wars as they can so the governments keep buying weapons from them.

Many of them are motivated by money, from evil someone, someone is pushing them to be in this kind of situation, the problem I think is that only few countries are willing to help to stop this killing and war issue in this place.

Real violence there does not happen if all parties can muffle themselves. But there are many interests contested, one of them to control oil. The civil war between Sunni and Shiite is very difficult to reconcile, there is no other way against this must be with violence as well

If the intention of the United States (and its allies) is to bring freedom to the middle-east, then they should first topple the monarchy in Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are not only oppressing their own citizens, but they are also funding terrorism all over the world including Syria and other middle-eastern nations.

6 years have passed since the civil war in Syria began. The players have changed, but the suffering and death still remains. And now the things are getting worse, after foreign powers such as the United States and Turkey are directly interfering in the war.

Whatever reason it is, I don't think that another killing can resolve a previous killing matter. The reason why you agree to kill Syrians is because they are killing another Syrians. If you are into the fight for the Syrians who are killed, then why you should fight to kill? Isn't it ironic that you were bothered on the killings in Syria but you are not bothered to kill someone? Yes, it is true that the good it can bring is that, the killings will stop if you are about to kill also the killers. However, do you really think that killers were already gone by the time you kill them all knowing that you yourself became a killer? Let us all remember that we cannot attain peace at war. We cannot get happiness and love from hatred. Negative acts will only bear negative things. I won't and will never bring positive effects.

Maybe he 'hates our freedoms.'

There is no logic to claim that Assad's forces used chemical weapons. They would have used it if they were losing the battle. But here, they were winning the battle and the rebels were almost exterminated from central Syria. Why should they use chemical weapons under such circumstances?

That's not how it works, this is the case for the weapon industry and not goverment themselves. Being in a war is extremely hard and costly these days, you need to pay well thousands and thousands of soldiers, sustain them with weapons and supplies, buy extremely expensive warheads, manuntenance of army ships, vehicles and airplanes etc. With that, you gotta take care of public opinion and also of your enemy move, if the USA could they wold never engage this war, if there is any reason for the country to be envolved, it's certainly not just to suck dry public taxes and make your population really angry.

We are all know why the invation on suriah happens, OIL.. thats all. Chemical weapons are nothing more than just a made up by Uand other west country to provide "PEACE" in suriah.. just what like they did to LYBIA, in this suriah case, there is no difference. and again, the victims will be the syrians people itself.. thanks to the "world's peace keeper" LOL!

The base of the Talmud is the writings that came out of those priests of Israel who were in the Babylonian captivity around 2,550 years ago. The priests of Israel started what has become the Talmud, back then, to maintain Israel in the captivity. The Talmud was a strict guide to keep the Israelites from mingling with the Babylonians, and thereby losing their national identity.

Over the years since the Babylonian captivity ended, the Talmud has expanded to protect Israel from all the conquering nations of the world who would conquer them. It does this BY STRICTLY URGING THEM IN WAYS TO MAINTAIN THEIR NATIONAL IDENTITY.

The problem with the Talmud is that it lost the real message about the Messiah. If it had maintained the love that the Messiah was really all about, the nations of the world would not have conquered Israel time and again, and the Israel at the time of Jesus, would not have turned their Messiah (Jesus) over to the Romans to have Him executed. It was this execution that brought God's wrath down on Israel in the Roman destruction of Jerusalem, so that they became a scattered people for 1,900 years.

The Talmud did exactly the opposite thing that the leaders of Israel wanted, simply because in the creation of it, they left the real meaning of the Messiah out of it.

Actually, it is the Syrian Muslims that are holding Jesus back. How? Jesus wants to have mercy on everyone. So, He is giving the Syrians a chance to become Christian, so that they can be saved for eternity, just like most of the U.S., and some of Israel. But the Syrian Muslims are resisting. At this point God is giving them more time to turn.

If we got rid of all the Muslims, Jesus might not have an excuse to stay away any longer. However, if we got rid of all the Christians, He wouldn't have that excuse, either. On the one hand, He would come to take His people to Himself. On the other hand, He would come to destroy his enemies.

The difference exists in that the people who have Christianity, have had a great chance but are turning away. Give the others a chance.

It's like the parable in the Bible where a wealthy man, a king, prepared a great banquet for his nobles. But his nobles all made excused, and wouldn't go to the banquet. The king became angry. But rather than dump the food, he sent his servants out to even the highways, and had a bunch of "homeless" people come in to eat his food.

People turning away from Christianity are like the nobles. If the homeless (the Syrians, at this point) don't come to the Christian banquet, they are going to miss out on the best meal - and even all the food - that eternity has to offer.

What we need to do is to bomb Israel and go to war with US. Israel is the problem. Jesus wants to come but Israel is controlling the landing platform.

I wouldn't say that having such wild fantasies is a crime. But this is beyond ridiculous. You are talking about converting the Syrians to Christianity, at the same time when hundreds of thousands of native Europeans (especially young women) are converting to Islam every year.

A fair number of people in Syria are Christian as well, and seem relatively well protected and happy to fight along side their Muslim countrymen for their country.  I've not gotten around to looking into the Koran much, but as I understand it Jesus was acknowledged and somewhat respected.

The Talmud is a much more important document than the Koran from the perspective of an American by virtue of the fact that Talmudics have vastly more sway over our government than the Islamics.  That document has some amazing things to say about Jesus, Mary, goyim in general and our relationship to Jews, ethnic cleansing, etc, etc.  It sheds a great deal of light on the basis of a lot of the evils we see all around us.

It IS sad. But there is a benefit, as well.

Most of the people in Syria are Muslims. Even though the Koran talks about Jesus, it doesn't do so with the idea of Jesus salvation. This means that few Muslims learn about salvation, because living a good life isn't enough.

It's extremely sad that most Muslims in Syria are going to Hell simply because they don't understand Jesus salvation. They are going there even if there is total peace throughout the whole world. The benefit of destruction in Syria is twofold:
1. It will, hopefully, wake them up to the need for Jesus as their Savior;
2. If they don't change and come to Jesus, it places them in their graves early, so that they don't have as much time to commit more sins that they will have to pay for in Hell.

The Syria bombing, and Syrian against Syrian, for all the sorrowful slaughter, is a good thing in the long run.

And I certainly wish that they could be converted via a peaceful way, rather than like this. But it isn't happening through peace. They simply won't change.

The Syrians are completely helpless. Their nation is being invaded by foreign powers and they are forcibly being recruited in to the global Sunni vs Shiite war. It is no longer a "Syrian"problem. The UN needs to act, but as long as it remains a toothless organization controlled by the NATO, that is not going to help.

[Transplanted from a recently locked thread:]  Parse carefully what the likes of Gen. Mattis will say.

"I have personally reviewed the intelligence, and there is no doubt the Syrian regime is responsible for the decision to attack and for the attack itself."

I agree with Mattis 100%.  The Assad regime, by winning the war fair and square and beating the shit out of the so-called 'ISIS', is responsible for the West+Israel having their operators in Syria doing this false-flag and/or hoax.  Mattis said nothing more and nothing less here.

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I'll (as a former U.S. soldier) add while I'm here that I was just watching a vid of the Syrian army after a victory in Eastern Qalamoun.  Their morale seemed very high, and morale is very important to combat effectiveness.  War is always hell, but being on the right side from an ethical perspective would be a big boost to morale.  The U.S. has not known that feeling for half a century or more.  I hope for no more wars, but if that fails, I hope that we can at least fight and die for a just cause.

My hat is off to the Syrian people, their armed forces, and their commander-in-chief.  Sometimes by chance a nation gets the right guy at the right time, and it seems to me that that is the case with Syria in the early part of the 21st century.  As an American I wish you-all the best and encourage you to keep up the good fight.  Russia deserves a lot of credit as well for their sacrifices on the right side of history.  I wish I had the confidence in my fellow countrymen that I have in you people of Syria.  We all know what your future holds for you if you fail.

Killing will just make other people and most likely, they will end up killing the person they hate when they have a chance. Revenge is one of the reason why wars started. I am praying for those people who were experiencing this situation and hopefully the hatred in their hearts will be replaced with love. Killing the innocent will just lead wars. I hate it when terrorist kill civilians just to send a message to the government.

Violence can never be a solution to any social problem. The Syrians need to wake up to the gravity of the situation bringing in suitable solutions.

If I am not wrong, the civil war in Syria started after the Sunni alliance (Saudi Arabia and its neighboring nations) started providing weapons and training to the extremist Islamic groups there. Had the foreign powers kept out of Syria, then things would have been much better.

Power I guess , but on the other hand it's quite sad seeing innocent dying and most of all the children's of syria , and honestly there is no Good at war , it's unhealthy and killing them it's not worth it , I hope this will end , bring peace not war , spread love not guns though.

The Americans are getting more and more arrogant by the day. Why they are not invading powerful nations such as Russia, DPRK, China or Iran? They are invading only the weaker nations such as Libya and Syria. Their dominance in the world will come to an end very soon, as Russia and China are cementing their strategic alliance.

And because of such you bomb the crap out of civilians?! Because you're not aiming at that said person...

21ST century and this planet will have no more dictators walking this earth any longer..

I am a member of the public not some politician who can be bribed    SO i want no dictators or tyrants left because with the weapons we have in this day and age it's very very dangerous for dictators to be ruling a country..

You serve your people for a certain amount of time then you go  your OUT ..

So if any rulers out there thinks they will be staying in power forever thinks again..
Universal law cannot have dictators in it because to many lives can become a misery all because of 1 person who thinks they rule or own the world..

The world belongs to all our future children and all the life that lives on this planet..

1 greedy power hungry person will never become king of the earth..YOU DIE or we all die..

So be warned any country trying to become a dictatorship will be doomed ..

It's dangerous for 1 man to rule ..If the person is WISE they know this..

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There are always some little known reasons behind the major wars. With regards to Syria, it lies along the proposed gas and oil pipelines from the GCC nations to Europe. Without the consent of the Syrian government, this pipeline can't be built.

War is highly profitable for the private defense corporations such as Boeing and Raytheon. Also, the private security contractors (such as Blackwarter) profit enormously from global conflicts.

War is money. It's unfortunate that the involve countries don't find ways to really end the war. When one war ends a new one starts, it is a vicious cycle and "We" can only watch the the players toy with people's lives.

Foreign players are present on both sides of the conflict. A lot of foreign Arabs, Chechens and other mercenaries are fighting for the rebels. Assad's forces are supplemented with Hezbollah from Lebanon and Shiite militias from Afghanistan and Iran. A number of Russians (part of the Wagner regiment) are also fighting for them.

I think you are reading too much into it. Trump brilliant? Come on.

I love it when a short sentence is so impactful aha. So true. I would like to add that although they are calling it a civil war, the majority of the guys fighting Assad are actually not from syria. Its a bunch off wahaabi selafi crazed literalist lunatics that are funded by our pals over in Saudi Arabia. Making it all the worse that we are bombing the Syrian government.

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I think it is insane that they destroyed loads of alleged chemical factories to protect people from chemicals even though these chemicals will now all be air born.

The UN can't do anything, because the member nations are divided over Syria. Basically, the Syrian civil war has snowballed in to a global Sunni vs Shiite conflict with other players also taking the sides. If the foreign powers pull out of Syria, then 90% of the problems will be resolved.

None. Illogical. And many innocent people are dying because of it. It's senseless in every sense and i think the issue in syria needs to be a top priority for the un. It's apalling to think that governments seem to be turning a blind eye to what's happening that part of thr world

People saying that violence is never an answer haven't had a fist fight yet with a bully in school. Sometimes, violence is the only thing that they understand. Especially with people like these, they think that everyone will not hurt them whatever he or she may do. So they abuse it and even to the point that they get away with so much. But if stand up to yourself and actually make them understand that they could hurt these dictators then they would stop.

Violence is never the answer in solving violencd. How many wars should we write down, how many lives must be lost, and how many lives should be changed for the worse for us to understand that violence is never an answer. We spout about peace, understanding and love when in fact we turn a blind eye to people who actually need help. We should learn to understand, we should talk so we understand what they are talking about and not to just find a way to bring them down.

The truth remains that Bashar al Assad is the most popular leader in Syria right now and the vast majority of the Syrians support him (despite whatever lies spread by the United States and its allies). He is the only person capable of holding Syria together.

alex jones said that bashar is feed up of syria, wants election and out !

that would explain it all better than all the others explanations :

That logic is the reason why wars started. I know what they have done is unforgivable but focusing on killing or exterminating them will not end the war. I think what the military needs to do is to cut all the resources of terrorist. If they do that , the terrorist won't have the ability to fight back and doesn't have any choice but to surrender. Killing them will just spread another hate. Civilians are the ones who will suffer because of their hate.

Violence is not the key to make peace. As more and more people die, the more people want to retaliate. Violence will never end on earth as long as we are live. People will always be greedy, they want to  have power and control over everything, that is one of the cause of war. As long as people have their differences, violence will never end.

I dont understand. This killings has been happening t9 syria for years already and yet no one no country and not even UN took a step to solve the problem, now trump made a bold decision in opposing assad, that is also not good for others’ opinion. Do you think assad can be tamed when all that he wanted is power and dominion over whole syria? What could have been the best solution to this mass murder by assad to syrians?

It's all because of power and the throne.
For me no matter who is right and wrong between government and opposition.
but the victims are civilians and children who know nothing about political conspiracies.

I hope, I will not be banned because I support Tampa in this decision.

Trump is a brilliant politician. He made the strike after consultation with Assad and Putin, and he hit the chemical factories that were being used by the the US funded rebels ( the Globalist army ). To understand what is going on, you need to think about political motivation, and try to read behind the news.

why should violence be stopped violently?
The war certainly will bring benefits for the weapon producers, so they are the real belligerent.
May the war be stopped and peace always on earth

Where's the logic of that?!  
And what good can it do?!