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Topic: Kim Dotcom Awarded Millions For Legal Bills and Living Expenses (Read 933 times)

legendary
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I hope that 500 years down the road, we will look at the current system and consider it the dark ages. Just like we look at medieval peonship today and cannot believe that such a horrible system ever existed.

I hope that the future will be such that liberty will be much greater, because the limit will be that a persons action cause no harm to another person, directly and measurably.

Paradise is where victimless crimes are no crimes IMHO  Cry


Or... The power that be pushing for a new world order would be in control 500 years from now and will delete this moment in existence had ever happened, since everything we do is digital. That, or a massive solar storm.

Harder to erase a 3000 year old pyramid though...


 Cool





Then again, popular insurrection could double down on historical revisionism,  massively dominating history.

And coronal mass ejections are but a candle to optical computing. 

legendary
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I hope that 500 years down the road, we will look at the current system and consider it the dark ages. Just like we look at medieval peonship today and cannot believe that such a horrible system ever existed.

I hope that the future will be such that liberty will be much greater, because the limit will be that a persons action cause no harm to another person, directly and measurably.

Paradise is where victimless crimes are no crimes IMHO  Cry



Or... The power that be pushing for a new world order would be in control 500 years from now and will delete this moment in existence had ever happened, since everything we do is digital. That, or a massive solar storm.

Harder to erase a 3000 year old pyramid though...


 Cool


legendary
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I hope that 500 years down the road, we will look at the current system and consider it the dark ages. Just like we look at medieval peonship today and cannot believe that such a horrible system ever existed.

I hope that the future will be such that liberty will be much greater, because the limit will be that a persons action cause no harm to another person, directly and measurably.

Paradise is where victimless crimes are no crimes IMHO  Cry
legendary
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fucking incredible, he has to fight for his OWN money

the scum authorities in US an NZ owe him for destroying his life (illegal search, secret service involvement and so on) even though he has caused zero harm to anyone, whatsoever

the only victim here is Kim... Angry

Now if we can only get Ross Ulbricht to wake up and see that the same thing happened to him, and even more direct. No harm done, no plaintiff that can get on the stand and accuse, no guilt.

The interesting thing is, if Ross did the thing that Kim is doing, he could legally attack his attackers for false claim, and not only get his property back, but make government pay him additional.

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But he didn't so it doesn't matter Grin If ross didn't own a website for drug trafficking and also get caught for buying fake ID's maybe he wouldn't have gotten a harsher sentence or at least be able to fight it.

That's the exact point. In America a person can stand as a man unrepresented in any way, and things change. Most people don't know this.

When a person stands as a man unrepresented in an American court, he can demand his accuser get on the stand and show the harm or damage done to him and say how it was the defendant who did it. The accuser in Ross Ulbricht's case is THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA can't get on the stand or say anything. Why not? Because THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is not a man, doesn't have a voice box to say the oath or affirmation, doesn't have legs to get up onto the stand, and can't say anything even if he made it to the stand. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA is simply paperwork.

In addition, there needs to be an impartial witness who witnessed Ross do the harm or damage, and who is willing to get on the stand and say it was Ross who did it.

While the evidence does seem to point to Ross, the method that the evidence was obtained should get the case tossed out right there. In addition, the fact that nobody came forward and actually showed how he was harmed by Ross's actions, indicates that there wasn't any harm done by Ross. It is all hearsay, even if we know it is true.

In American law, no harm or damage, no case. But, Ross has to get up as a man, present himself unrepresented before the court, and require that the above stuff is done as stated above. If he doesn't do this, he is admitting guilt, and is essentially convicted by his admission without any other real law convicting him.

New Zealand and Australia have similar law to the U.S. in this way. While I don't know for sure if Dotcom stood up and said it straight out like Ross could, he may have pushed it through with his attorneys somehow. Or maybe the courts over there saw what Dotcom could do to them, and they made some kind of a deal with him that will get him all his wealth back just as though he did the above.

The courts don't want it to become known how easy it is to beat the government in almost every court situation where the plaintiff is not a man/woman, and where he does not have some verifiable harm or damage done to him by the defendant.

Anyone can use this. I talked to a guy yesterday who did it in a traffic case, and he didn't even know what he was doing. He simply said to the judge wording to the effect, "I am present in court, not represented in any way," and the judge immediately threw the case right out of court.

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fucking incredible, he has to fight for his OWN money

the scum authorities in US an NZ owe him for destroying his life (illegal search, secret service involvement and so on) even though he has caused zero harm to anyone, whatsoever

the only victim here is Kim... Angry

Now if we can only get Ross Ulbricht to wake up and see that the same thing happened to him, and even more direct. No harm done, no plaintiff that can get on the stand and accuse, no guilt.

The interesting thing is, if Ross did the thing that Kim is doing, he could legally attack his attackers for false claim, and not only get his property back, but make government pay him additional.

Smiley

But he didn't so it doesn't matter Grin If ross didn't own a website for drug trafficking and also get caught for buying fake ID's maybe he wouldn't have gotten a harsher sentence or at least be able to fight it.
legendary
Activity: 3906
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fucking incredible, he has to fight for his OWN money

the scum authorities in US an NZ owe him for destroying his life (illegal search, secret service involvement and so on) even though he has caused zero harm to anyone, whatsoever

the only victim here is Kim... Angry

Now if we can only get Ross Ulbricht to wake up and see that the same thing happened to him, and even more direct. No harm done, no plaintiff that can get on the stand and accuse, no guilt.

The interesting thing is, if Ross did the thing that Kim is doing, he could legally attack his attackers for false claim, and not only get his property back, but make government pay him additional.

Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1372
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fucking incredible, he has to fight for his OWN money

the scum authorities in US an NZ owe him for destroying his life (illegal search, secret service involvement and so on) even though he has caused zero harm to anyone, whatsoever

the only victim here is Kim... Angry
legendary
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good for him, fuck these copyright bastards
legendary
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hope he counter sues for legal costs and gets back all of his money and assets.

Hope he tosses us a couple bitcoins for wishing him well.    Cheesy


All he needs to do is buy bitcoins with whatever millions he gets from the states... All of it (minus expenses, etc)

The whole bitcoin ecosystem would be very happy and kim will become an instant BTCadass forever...

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And if he does it shrewdly, (as he is so often known to have done in the past) they will never be able to get their hands on his wealth again.

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legendary
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hope he counter sues for legal costs and gets back all of his money and assets.

Hope he tosses us a couple bitcoins for wishing him well.    Cheesy


All he needs to do is buy bitcoins with whatever millions he gets from the states... All of it (minus expenses, etc)

The whole bitcoin ecosystem would be very happy and kim will become an instant BTCadass forever...

 Smiley

legendary
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hope he counter sues for legal costs and gets back all of his money and assets.

Hope he tosses us a couple bitcoins for wishing him well.    Cheesy
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Freedom to choose
hope he counter sues for legal costs and gets back all of his money and assets.
legendary
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Kim Dotcom probably heard about Karl Lentz, and has informed government that he is going to expose how unlawful their tactics are. Government is responding by bending to the wishes of Dotcom, in ways that are agreeable to both sides if he will not expose them. We will ultimately come to find out that Dotcom will have gained his complete freedom and return of all of his property.

After all, if there isn't a human being who can get on the stand and verbally accuse Dotcom under oath, of harm or damage personally done to the accuser, there is no case.

In addition, if there isn't any impartial witness, or if the evidence doesn't lead directly to Dotcom, the government has no case.

It is all based in English common law, which New Zealand is under.

Too bad Ross Ulbricht hasn't figured this out yet. 'Cause it is the way the United State's courts work as well.

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legendary
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For his sake, I hope this legal battle is resolved in a manner that doesn't keep the legal costs to keep soaring much higher than it already has.
legendary
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Kim Dotcom has succeeded in getting more of his seized funds released by the courts in New Zealand. In addition to millions for legal expenses, the entrepreneur will receive $128K per month including $60K to pay mansion rent, $25,600 to cover staff and security, plus $11,300 for grocery and other expenses.

How much does it cost to enjoy a reasonable standard of living in the modern world? A couple of thousand dollars a month? Three thousand? Four?

For Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom, none of these amounts scratch the surface, a problematic situation considering all of his assets were previously seized by the U.S. and New Zealand governments.

In February a “broke” and “destitute” Dotcom appeared before Justice Patricia Courtney, asking for living expenses and a massive cash injection to pay historical and current legal fees. Dotcom was previously granted around US$15,000 per month to live on but high costs had left him “penniless”.

Following the hearing Justice Courtney’s ruling is largely good news for Dotcom, with the Judge taking into consideration claims by authorities that the entrepreneur has funds in a trust that could help pay his expenses.

“The trust’s major asset is its shareholding in Mega Ltd, said to be worth more than $30m (US$22.6m). In evidence Mr Dotcom said that there were difficulties in selling Mega shares because they were blocked from being sold until the planned listing of Mega, which is now scheduled for late May 2015 (though it is possible that this date will be pushed back). There was no evidence to the contrary,” the Judge’s ruling reads.

“I have concluded that Mr Dotcom does not have the ability to meet his legal and reasonable living expenses from trust assets because, on the evidence, those assets are not sufficiently liquid.”

Noting that he still owes former lawyers around US$1.5m, the Judge said that Dotcom’s estimate for financing his legal battle against extradition is between US$1.5m and US$3m. This amount will be released from currently restrained government bonds.

Next up was the Dotcom family’s accommodation costs. Rent on the now-famous mansion amounts to US$754,000 per annum under a lease Dotcom signed in February 2013 and which expires in the same month 2016. The Judge decided that terminating that lease would result in additional costs.

“If [Dotcom] were to terminate the lease in order to find a more modest home, he would immediately be exposed to a significant contractual liability for the existing rental in addition to the costs of any new accommodation,” the Judge writes.

“Little would be saved by requiring Mr Dotcom to move into more modest
accommodation pending the expiry of the lease; it is more likely that the total amount required to house Mr Dotcom and his children and meet his lease commitment would actually prove greater than simply remaining where he is.

“I therefore accept that, in the particular circumstances of this case, a figure of $80,000 (US$60,300) per month is reasonable for accommodation.”

The Judge also considered Dotcom’s claims for items like security, staff wages and other general expenses.

Dotcom currently has eight staff but the Judge felt that five would be sufficient to assist with cleaning, cooking, shopping, managing the grounds and caring for Dotcom’s children.

“I allow $25,000 ($18,850) per month for staff,” the Judge said.

Turning to Dotcom’s request for $20,000 (US$15,000) for groceries, fuel and maintenance etc, the Judge said this was a little high considering Dotcom’s estranged wife Mona could be expected to chip in.

“On the basis that the children’s mother can be expected to contribute to
some of these costs I consider that the figure of $20,000 (US$15,000) is a little high and would reduce that to $15,000 (US$11,300) per month,” the Judge added.

In addition to the legal fees mentioned earlier, in total Dotcom was awarded $170,000 (US$128,000) per month to cover living expenses.

“Mr Dotcom may have access to that figure each month pending the expiry of the lease on the property,” the Judge said. “At that point I would expect that the position will be reviewed.”


https://torrentfreak.com/kim-dotcom-awarded-millions-plus-128k-per-month-expenses-150502s/


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