Topic: Know how to use Fundamental and Technical Analysis (Read 543 times)

Sure its not, they would see its relevance whenever their technical analysis had been fucked up by news. We do know that this market is really that highly reactive when it comes to news and fundamentals
and this is why it would really be always that best when it comes to trading then you should really know to make use in both technical and fundamentals on which it is really that the best approach
for you to have a good chance on sustaining into this market. Take note that in every news then it would neither be giving out some effect or not.

We do know that not all the time this market could have some news and this is the time that you would make use of technicals or something talks about interchangeable or something
that very a common approach to do so. We cant really be able to survive this market if we cant really be able to handle ourselves on different conditions
which it might be able to make. This is why it would be relevant that we should be knowing on how to make use of both.

I don't have much experience in gambling, but have little experience in trading. bets are not made here, but purchases are made here. Buying at a low price and selling at a high price is trading. Where does the betting come from? Of course, betting on something is called gambling and there is no middle ground, and the result is very quick. I will not favor it either with trading, there are many options in trading, you can only combine futures trading with gambling.

If I trade in any coin in spot trading and that coin goes down contrary to my expectation, Then I hold it instead of selling it. When it comes back to my desired price again, I sell it and save myself from the loss. Is there such an option in gambling ?

Do fundamental first because no matter if you are good at the technical sites you gonna lose from the news of the fundamental sides. so the point is fundamental first example is today news Bittrex shutdown and CZ of Binance is pled guilty and those news affect the bitcoin price also the techinal said that the market is overbought so short might be the best option for now

I really think that people should not skip fundamental analysis, if they did study it then we will not have nowhere near as many people interested in investing in one of the hundred of meme coins released each year or being interested in a useless NFT that will never reevaluate itself after they buy it.

However since fundamental analysis is not as popular as TA and it does not produce interesting charts to watch, newbies decide to ignore it, even if it is definitely on their best interest to learn more about fundamental analysis.

 In short, fundamental analysis gives you insights and ideas on what to buy or invest depending on your choice of investment. Without fundamentals, you will never know your first and last step when doing an investment.

However, technical analysis teaches you when is the best entry and exit in the market. You could have good fundamental analysis yet you fail in executing it while timing the market, your investment will obviously never work still. So have these both fundamentals and technicalities work in unison. Otherwise, you will only waste your time and money and fail on your investment.

These consept you have spelt out OP, would require someone to have made up their mind to be a full-time trader inorder to settle quite frankly to apply such as fundamental and technical analysis to trading. These days we just use our intuition after having learnt the basics and have paid attention to some signals and market trends news.
Unless one also has the tools needed to trade effectively I think the application of fundamental and technical analysis is for big time investors and brokers/brokage firms who really on the data to lure in investors.

Doubt the effectiveness of fundamental and technical analysis. Fundamental seems like predicting the future based on past events, and technical appears to be fortune-telling through charts. Often, the outcomes seem arbitrary.These are all assumptions, in reality no one knows how it will be on the market

I believe that a trader will get a better analysis if the two are applied, because one tells you why you should take a decision and the other directs you on how applicable and favorable that decision can be. So their combination can at least guarantee a profitable trade.

I still hold bitcoin for long term investment, but if I'm to start trading, among the two analysis, I'll apply the fundamentals first, because it'll give me a basic knowledge of how the market is trending, then I'll apply the technical aspect to see how the price movement is on the chart. Then I'll compere with information gathered on my fundamental findings.

I wouldn't know which is better, but I believe that technical analysis depends on fundamental analysis for chart movements, because fundamental information will in one way or another determine the pointer of charts.

Search with the keyword "Trading" on Google and this is what I got "Trading, includes buying and selling stocks, commodities, currency pairs, or through other financial instruments. The purpose of this activity is to collect margin or profits that exceed buy-and-hold activities in investment activities."

If you say crypto trading is gambling, this is not entirely true.
The correlation of gambling includes user activity that seems to be just guessing without any analysis.
Trading with technical and fundamental analysts suggests that there is some attempt to read past data to figure out what price is going to be.

While gambling is just guessing, there is no definite analysis of past data, except for gambling games with player analysis and others.

But in general trading and gambling are different, but futures trading will probably approach like gambling when beginners do it.
Just guessing the price without doing any analysis, up or down and setting a large enough leverage, this is gambling that is possible in crypto.

I don't how you get your impression but I am not talking about crypto investment and what I am talking about is trading.
If you Google the word "gambling" this is what you will get "gambling, the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome"
Technically, if we say crypto trading is gambling is not something wrong because the end result is not guaranteed even with the use of FA and TA.

You would really be finding on yourself on whats the relevance among the two on the time that you do face up those market conditions on which you do really be able to determine which one would really be relevant
or both would really be something that useful.We do know that market news and other events could really be giving out that kind of impact in speaking about market movements on which it cant really be denied that
we would really be able to notice on whats really that something that you would be needing on a specific situation. We know that the market cant really be having that kind of news time to time
on which means that you cant really be to apply any technical analysis on which it is really just that right that you would be making adjustments.

You should really know on how to make use of both FA and TA because it would really be something helpful on the time that you would hover yourself into trading career.
You would reallly be finding that these skills is a must learn because if you dont then you are just basically doing gambling if you are really that just making some
wild guess and pure picks without any basis on the time that you do trade.

I agree, if we called everything that is not certain, then we would have to call any investment that is not gold to be a considered as gambling. I am sorry but that is not how investment works, just because there is risk, it is not gambling at all. In gambling, house always wins because of the house edge, and that means we are going to see casinos get richer, it is automatic and it's written in the rules, in investment we could all win together. I can buy at 10 dollars, sell at 20 dollars and profit, you can buy at 20 from me and sell at 30 and make a profit, meanwhile we both pay fee and exchange profits too, we all profit.

I mean there are of course down times too, but we need to realize that comes with any investment ever. We are definitely certain that life is not all that easy to just invest and profit, but we are not risking like gambling, we are "risking" the money, gambling means we are just giving it away, quickly or slowly but we are going to lose there.

They are both beneficial; it is up to you to determine which one is more beneficial in terms of profit. You can't merely discuss the basic and technical with such an easy explanation here unless you educate each step to actually use the two.

Because not all or even the majority of them grasp the application of technical and fundamental analysis. Because there are tools utilized there to execute those two tasks, and most individuals here do not yet know how to use and understand those tools in genuine trade.

Perhaps, TA and FA are huge contributing tools that help us achieve success. Therefore, it was necessary to know them but of course, it was not just knowing how it works but also, how to apply it in real life.
Honestly, many traders lack of application than knowledge and one reason is that they are uncertain, they're not sure of their actions, and they are not confident enough with themselves. It doesn't make sense anyway if we never know how to deal with the market using these two things Technical and Fundamental Analysis, still end up losing.

The cryptocurrency market is certainly unpredictable, but it is by no means meant to be called gambling.Unpredictability means that there is always volatility and the market can go in any direction at any time. If a coin falls in value, you can hold it.Then how can this be a gamble? In this, global news and news about a coin can also lead to market volatility. However, experienced and expert people make their own analysis , and often the analysis of such people are proved to be correct.

Market also has its own trend and we always have to go with the trend. If a trader fails in the cryptocurrency market, instead of blaming the cryptocurrency market, they should reflect on their mistakes. Your long term investment proposal is good as it does not expose us to market fluctuations as we aim to earn good returns in the bull season, but entry at the right time is very important even in long-term investments, because the lower the price we buy, the more likely we are to make a profit.

Are you saying you would continue to buy coins/tokens based on the mentality that the unexpected could happen? Well, that's not the smart idea, you should get well prepared for both bad and good unexpected. You are so lucky this time that your decision based on people's actions worked this time, however next time, I advise you to be more thorough and practical, do not just buy coins/tokens because people are doing so, do your research and let the main two analytical styles (Technical & Fundamental) guide you. Fine, people's hype and decisions might help you to get the attention of the right coins, but if I were you, I would first go straight to the origin, projects and fundamentals behind it to know if it's the best project for me before committing my money. Also from there, I will talk to my chart to know if it's the right time to buy the project whether good or not.

Yes, there's no way to deal with the crypto market in the trading space without the use of TA and FA but it's the chance of the market analysis not being productive at some point is what I am pointing. You said it yourself that the market is unpredictable which technically means despite the TA and FA prediction crypto trading is still just like gambling.
In fact, we can judge this by the stats of crypto traders who quit and those who were successful.
To be honest, it turns out that the best way to deal with this market is long-term investment.

Unfortunately there are "let me just do what this twitter influencers tells me to do" type of people as well. When in reality I agree with you and TA with FA combined would make someone money 90%+ of the time, you should be careful about it, and there are moments when things go south but that doesn't change the fact that you need to be careful and do better.

I hope that people could realize how that could change, and I understand that it may not be something that would be greater but in the end we are talking about something that would get better. Hopefully there will be more and more people who will use TA and FA so that the market will get back into shape and the price could do better as well that's the most important part.

Not really mate in trading I think we classify fundamental knowledge as the basic knowledge of what you need to know in trading. When someone says fundamental knowledge, it means that basic knowledge and trading are not the same as holding, as you stated. The OP is talking about trading, not holding, as you stated. However, the fundamental knowledge of trading is the one that will be your guide in everything you want to do in your journey, while the technical aspect is the one that will guide you on how to manage the market, the risk, and the chart of when to buy and when to sell. However, both of these are working hand in hand. In my opinion, fundamental knowledge of trading is guiding you, and the technical aspect also does the same thing, just that technical only focuses on the technical part.


Very important: everything starts with a step, but we can ignore something to make an error, then later change. We need to learn since we are talking about funds. We need to learn before entering the market. We should not make an error before the market changes our lives. We should learn as much as we can, then confidently start the journey. It will be better than having an error, then deciding to change or start seeing changes. However, when I’m talking about risk in trading, I don’t only talk to beginners; I also talk to experts. Some mistakes are unavoidable, and anyone can do them, both beginners and experts, so therefore we need to trade with caution. We all need to use the money we can afford to lose, not just beginners.

I am not really believer in the technical analysis nowadays even though I followed it like a cult member in the past. Let me give you an example;

A company that has a very good balance sheet, the sales are booming and the price to earnings ratio is reasonable but, the price is at its ATH. Without knowing these details, a Technical analyst will probably tell you that it is an expensive stock.

But a fundamental analyst will advise you to buy more since it has a lower p/e ratio than its competitors and a very good balance sheet. This guy won’t even check the price or the chart to give you this advice.

I am not saying TA is complete crap but it comes very close.

OP is correct, Both Fundamental and Technical Analysis are required to conduct trading professionally, but it depends on which one you give more importance to, generally a little can be done at any time by trading, but if you want to trade professionally or for a long time, a lot of study is required.

Trading is very risky even more risky than holding. For us to make profits from the market, we need to invest responsible.ans keep our trading safe and concise not trading too much. Technical analysis is what we can learn  and utilize it in our trading to have a good results as a trader. Technical analysis is mostly used to analyze the market and get a better view of what the market is planning to do. Virtually all traders make use of the technical analysis to get trading easier and ncrease profits rate.

Practicing what we understand in trading will make us have more experience in the trading we do and we can also increase our knowledge about trading so that we can gain profits from trading, when we consistently do what we understand well. Well, of course we will be able to make a profit from the trading we do.

It's very important that we learn all these and to put them into practice, they are indications that will set our mind on the best priority for our own interest while making plans for a particular trade we wanted to engage in, however, using this is not an exit route to stay out of making loss, it only helps towards having the best achievement in our research althrough the trading time duration while we are also speculating on some possible features before making a trade.

For the people who want to engage in investment regarding the crypto knowing with this TA is a must because this serves as a guide to them with their investment execution for their entry and exit to their investment,. I highly recommend at least using the basics of support and resistance even pro I guess seems to keep doing this because this strategy gives you a hint for another pump, continuous dump or even just a sideways of the market. Aside from it, ideal to use of the technical indicators like MACD this is not the only one but the most basic one and beginner friendly too. Always set a plan, stick to it if doesn't work change, find the mistake and learn from those.

Whether you do like it or not, there's nothing you can do but to deal up with TA and FA. How you would really be gonna able to deal up with this unpredictable market? Doing some intuition picking or entry?
thats just pure gambling in the sense. This is why you wont really be having no choice but to know on how to make use of it or else then you would really be finding yourself would really be lost into this market.
You would really be that prone to mistakes and non ideal entries on which you should really be that wise on taking up actions or else you would really be ending up on committing lots of mistakes.

Technicals plus having those fundamentals if possible available then it would be wise on making use of both. Try to make some analysis through it whether it would really be that
pushing up or would really be dumping down but of course you should really that instill into your mind that its never been that precise 100% about these tools
for you to make use on trading but it is really that much better compared on making yourself that making positions without any basis.

I think people will understand it better from direct practice. because trading theory is very broad and will never end no matter how it is studied. One person simply sticks to one trading style until he is truly consistent in producing results. This is the best way to get to know these two methods of analysis.

I don't want to be complicated. I got fundamentals from news media on Telegram, and technicals I got from the market based on my own analysis. If we learn about the theory of these two analyzes from the basics, it will take a long time so we might forget the practice. I have to believe that if we do it with practice it will be much more understandable than just theory.

This is the best answer so far.
Nothing is wrong with using either of the two because a lot of traders already already making profits using them. So yeah, it will be your preference.

However I see most active traders using technical analysis, and some use fundamental analysis as a second opinion.

Just like me, if I trade, I am always going with technical analysis.

I agree with what you said and that's the exact reason why I never liked crypto trading because knowing how to use fundamental and technical analysis skills is not enough to make a strive trade because there will always be something missing at some point due to the market volatility.
Having fundamental and technical skills is good but doesn't justify a successful trade and the best way to have success is by making long-term investments in crypto like BTC, or altcoins that will always make new ATH prices when it is BTC block halving market.

To be fair, I do kind of "know" how to use it, obviously there is always something else to learn, but I do kind of know enough to say that I do, but that still doesn't mean that I am going to trust them completely in a blind manner, that doesn't work like that. You should always be careful about what you are doing and what that could mean. I personally believe that the best thing people can do would be getting to a point where they will just invest long term and still be happy about it.

I mean think about it, if you invest 1 million dollars, at 25k which was just like a month or so ago, today that would be over 1.5 million dollars, in a month, more money made in less than two months that most people do not make in their entire life.

When we start to enter trading, of course we have to understand well the trading we are going to do in order to reduce the risk of failure in trading because if we cannot understand it well and start, we will certainly lose the money we have in the trading we do, when If we understand it well then we will be able to gain profits from the trades we make.

Fundamental analysis comes to play only when you are choosing something that is new. You have to dig deeper in order to search for who is behind it, who is pulling the strings, what can they do with this project in the future, does the project have the potential to rise up or go down, how much demand are in the market for this project which will make this project a success. Combine everything and when you come up with the decision that is called fundamental analysis. Fundamental analysis focus on the future after meeting some conditions that are required or indicates either the project will be a success or a failure.
Technical analysis focuses on past performance, historical data, events that are similar which will happen in the future etc. technical analysis focus more on the past and present in order to collect data to give a clear view of the existing market. In this case you have something that exists already and have a history of being successful or a failure. This is commonly used for short-term trading.
But most people use both of them and combining them they create their own strategy. Based on your investment plan, you need to use either of them or both of them if you want to have the best result.

Everything in life begins with a step; one error can change your entire world, thus in terms of trading, a person must be familiar with the two concepts you described earlier: fundamental analysis and technical analysis. It is critical for us to acquire understanding about trading before we enter it, especially we beginners. Because understanding the concept of trade allows you to appreciate and benefit from it while also knowing how much money you can afford to start with.

Manipulative analysis is also not to be overlooked as it is important to pay attention to how the whales manipulate to get cheaper prices.
This does relate to Fundamental Analysis as well and will greatly affect how Technical Analysis works.

The manipulative analysis will also disturb the psychology of every trader, so it is necessary to do psychological management so as not to panic too much when manipulation is done by people who have the power to influence the market.

I always say don't go against the flow, just follow them and take the best opportunity to capitalize on any manipulation that is done.
As small traders that's all we can do.

Honestly it's all about preference, besides choosing between the two depends on what asset you trade as they react differently to fundamentals(news) and price volatility is more during news time which is something some traders love unlike technical trading that is rules based regardless of news.

Tbh, these two compliment each other, if you can find a way to use them both then your trading style can be greatly improved.

Technical analysis is a great tool that every trader should be using, because there is so much information, we can extract from the past trading data and it's publicly available for free. To me it's pretty obvious that there are patterns in trading, we can see that there are bull and bear cycles that tend to control the overall market sentiment. Identifying these cycles is very helpful and I try to use strategies that focus on selling at the start of a bear market and buy at the start of a bull market. These so-called Mean Reversion strategies focus on the fact that investors tend to overbuy when there is a good sentiment and oversell when the mood is turning. The strategy works very well together with Moving Averages, because here you get a broader indication of the trend and can identify if the current price is above or below the trend. The number of indicators we can choose from with Technical Analysis is endless and it doesn’t make sense to try and include as many different indicators as possible. Every trader needs to identify for himself which works best for his strategy and focus on the most important ones.

The explanation that you gave your friend was good enough, fundamental analysis is without a doubt a useful tool, but its main weakness is that it does not really tell you when the assets you have picked will go up in value, fortunately TA can cover that weakness and tell you with a decent accuracy when to sell and buy the assets you like.

So tell your friend they cannot really disregard either one and if anything they should try to master both, not an easy task of course, but if they are serious about becoming a trader then this is something they will have to do.

In all honesty, I think there's a third that should be added to Fundamental and Technical Analyses. It should be Manipulative Analysis. While I advise that Fundamental and Technicals (I love TA) should be a must-to-know for everyone trading and wanting to be successful, traders should also know that's not all there's to trading the market. Sometimes the technicals and fundamentals can align but trades won't go that way and that's because there's manipulation somewhere. I know that FA rules in cryptos more than TA where the market reacts instantly to news even when TA is saying the opposite. This can't be said to be so in Forex Trading where news can be positive and TA is positive but market will go the opposite direction just to clear Stop Losses out. That's manipulation and that has to be studied and mastered too.

And this is what you do need when you do really hover yourself on dealing  with trading on which these kind of analysis or approach wouldnt really be giving out that precision in terms of success rate or being profitable.
Yes, it doesnt give out assurance but its the best things that you should really be needing for you to now or something that really needs to be learnt up or else you are just basically doing yourself some gambling.
This is a must skill that should really be needing to be done or really needs to learn so that you would really be able to make yourself that be sustain on how to deal up with this unpredictable space.
Just put up into your mind that risks management would really be that so crucial and emotion handling.

You would really be able to find on yourself on how to deal up with this market which you would be making out adjustments accordingly basing up on what you have that experienced.
Its impossible that you wont really be able to assess up things basing up into those actual experience previously which it would really be giving out that kind of idea.

They are equally helpful to all traders, whether in Bitcoin, crypto, forex, or stock. It just depends on you which one you will be more comfortable using out of the two that you think will make it easier for you to make a profit.

As long as the only important thing is to make a profit, since that is its main purpose. But they are also not guaranteed to give 100% profit in trading; they are just a tool to determine the direction the price is going.

I think fundamental analysis is different from the fundamental knowledge that you can get when learning the trading tools like what you are telling there. AFAIK, fundamental analysis deals with the economic and financial factors, but in spite of it, I think this was not being prioritized by the traders but it was the technical analysis is the ones that they use the most. Can't you see the chartings, or the graphs scattered around or anywhere?

Those are the parts of a technical analysis. Learning the trading tools before we start trading is still important. If I'm going to trade, I will definitely use both types of analysis because I always believe that fundamental analysis is also important more than the technical one's.

I completely agree that TA or FA all can fail and you can not win 100% positions you open with TA or FA.

Don't invest what you can not afford to lose.
Don't trade what you can not afford to lose.

Two sentences look pessimistic but it is about risk management as well as how you have ace under your sleeves when things go wrong and you still have second plan to live through it without suicide.

With a satisfactory knowledge of technical analysis a trader has solve about 80% of trading difficulties. T.A is rounded on data analysis, indicators and past chart patterns that when a trader is able to comprehend their use in opening trade fundamental analysis then be used as a complement to strengthen and give a base to your trading decision following the news that is ground in the market. Technical analysis is being undermined by some traders due to how series of news after news triggering and affecting price action more often than not, but a seasoned trader knows that to be able to take advantage of fundamentals of the market you need to possess a firm technical knowledge.

Dont base your trading just on FA or TA. The TA is only a 50-50 game because it is a pseudo-science and not based on concrete evidence. It can only make a prediction as to where the market might be moving to and you have to decide how to want to play it. Remember not to put your full decision making on TA. It is more applicable when it comes to day trading and less to long term trading.

Because in long term you can balance out a lot of things, you buy at low discounted prices and sell at inflated prices without looking at TA for sudden or quick changes.

TA or FA will not make you a market expert, in fact nobody can be one, but try to make money off the market to our maximum capability.

Put up into your mind that not all the time this market would really be having that kind of news and sentiments on which we could really be able to depend or rely on what our market decisions would be.
If you arent really that sure on how to apply fundamentals then it would really be just that right or normal on having those kind of searches whether that news is something positive or negative
but honestly by the looks and information alone would really be already be able to tell whether on which one it would be. Fundamentals nowadays are already that significant compared into those older years
on which news doesnt really make out some effect into this market which it is unlike now that whenever we do see news then the market do really make out reactions.

The wisest thing to be done is that you should really know on how to make use both things in between FA+TA on which you would really be finding it to be that relevant in speaking about
trading on which these things could really be helpful and you would really be finding it relevant for you to be able to apply it in regarding into your trades.
Although it wont really be that precise but having this kind of approach on making use of these tools and indicators and sentiments would really be beneficial.

Fundamental analysis determines whether an asset is attractive or not, while technical analysis shows you the dynamics within the asset. With the right indicators, you can profit in the highly volatile cryptocurrency market. Technical analysis analyzes past price movements and volumes, analyzes patterns, indicators and oscillators to identify trading points and predict the direction of price movements. Fundamental analysis helps us find the true value of an asset and predict the factors that may affect it.

The purpose of fundamental analysis is to try to determine whether the value you receive in your investment deserves the price you pay. Therefore, both methods of analysis are used effectively in the stock market. Since fundamental analysis takes more time than technical analysis, technical analysis is generally preferred.
A little advice: stick with whichever method of analysis and strategy you are successful with. Remember, you may need both analyses for your trading decision.

Applying Technical Analysis after using Fundamental Analysis to find good entries is headache. You never can find correct bottom or top so if you apply Technical analysis for your investment, not trading, because you already used Fundamental Analysis as your first step, is not needed.

An investor can simply use Dollar Cost Averaging and reduce stress, avoid headache by timing the market and finding bottom or top.

Costavg.com (Cryptocurrency Dollar Cost Averaging) for Bitcoin, Ethereum, Litecoin, Monero, Cardano.

It is definitely a good "understanding" of what they are, but that is not always the case. Fundamentals basically tells you if what you are investing is a decent thing that you should invest or not, and TA tells you when you should buy or sell. So the logic of what to buy and when to buy are not too far apart but also not "exactly" true. There are plenty of terrible tokens out there, thousands of them, who have terrible FA results and yet for some reason people do still invest into them, doesn't make sense to me to be fair but they still do it for some reason. I think its quite important to notice that we are talking about two very different thing, FA and TA, but for the same purpose in the end at the very least.

It actually varies on how both works for you. There are times that technical analysis and so does the fundamentals.

But many are more familiar with technicals and those that are not good with technical analysis just choose to go with what's with the fundamentals.

Honestly, both are effective depending on how you perceive and use the information that you can gather with these analyses.

Fundamental analysis is more important than technical analysis because without good fundamentals, a technical analysis can be come useless with a project that can be rug pulled any time by founders, developers.

A project with good fundamentals will not have rug pull that is important to avoid 100% loss of your initial capital. With good fundamentals, if your technical analysis is wrong and your trading position is bad, you can hold your good cryptocurrency like Bitcoin and wait for recovery. I only believe in Bitcoin and Ethereum for long term holding. Other cryptocurrencies are risky and holding them is not wisely. If a trader have a bad trading position with altcoins, it's better to cut loss and finish the trade.

If you ask me, I will say fundamental analysis is inherently better than technical analysis but if you understand the both, it gives you lead on how to survive the market. If not for the fundamental news that happened all the time, hodlers of bitcoin will wait forever to harvest their profit from bitcoin. Fundamental gives you lead, more like qualifying your technical.

If you want to set up a trade now and your basic indicators like volume, RSI, Bollinger band and EMA tells you that the market will be bullish and then you went ahead and after like 2 hours the market start to traject upward and all of sudden you read from Coindesk or Cointelegraph that Binance was hacked, there is no way you will live that trade open, you will close it fastly without waiting for stop-loss because it will he trigger in the end, this is what fundamental analysis helps you do.

As you have said, you need to know how to use it and when to use it. The market is experiencing upward moves since last week and that was because of ETF anticipation approvals. Some analyst believe that this is the window period that SEC usually approves ETFs and since we have about 8 bitcoin SPOT ETF pending applications, they might approved some and if they approve that of Blackrock, then the market will react to it, the next move or Bitcoin is going to be $40k for sure.

That's right, technical analysis is usually used by traders to determine up and down market movements, this is very complicated and must be done carefully, for traders this is very important when dealing with the market. There are so many tools that are also used. And Fundamentals are usually used for long term investments, this refers to long term movements, this analysis is very vital of course, because of the investment designation, if an investor misses this, perhaps all investment funds will be lost instantly if the crypto they choose has a fault.

This part you said made me remember the time I bought BGB, Rune and SOL. There was a lot of positivity around this token before this altcoin surge period. Seeing that people were so positive about these coins, I just bought a few units and now I appreciate the fundamentals

What I didn't was to trade. You know, as you said. Unexpected things could happen. I wanted to be sure of their movement before taking the next action

Damn!! You're so good. To be frank, all I do is to look into what the news would impact in the market and not focus on little details like this. Most often, as I said earlier, what I use is the insight from exchanges because they tend to summarise everything happening in the crypto world. I guess next time I'd be paying attention to little details like this

I tend to agree that fundamental analysis is more suited for long term analysis, rather than solely relying on what the media publishes as news. Instruments with strong fundamentals are likely to yield good results and, of course, offer us significant profit potential. In fundamental analysis, we focus on the related company or technology, as in the case of Bitcoin.

For example, Bitcoin's fundamental analysis includes its extremely high investor confidence and its ability to attract new institutional investors due to its relatively young age... also the limited supply is a long term consideration because it will impact the deflationary value in the future.

To me, fundamental analysis serves as a long term reference for investments, while technical analysis tends to focus on the short term by analyzing candlestick patterns and news events that affect price movements over a brief period.

This is very detailed for a lay man to understand the difference between fundamental and technical analysis. They both have their unique benefits and they can complement each other to help a trader make more informed and successful trades. Fundamental analysis can help you to identify potential opportunities and technical analysis can help you determine the best entry and exit points for a trade. Using both fundamental and technical analysis can help a trader to stay disciplined in trading. You know sometimes it's easy to get caught up in the emotions of the moment and either buy or sell a coin based on our feelings but using both fundamental and technical analysis can give us a clear and objective way to make decisions. The truth is that we have to keep in mind when using both fundamental and technical analysis that they're not perfect tools and there is always the potential for unexpected events to happen.

Just found an analogy and I'll leave it here:
Fundamental analysis is like looking at the engine of a car. It tells you how well the car is made, and what it's capable of.
Technical analysis is like looking at the car's dashboard. It tells you how the car is currently running, and whether it's likely to break down anytime soon. 

If you're buying a car, you'll want to look at both the engine and the dashboard. The same is true when you're trading cryptocurrencies. You want to find coins with strong fundamentals, and then use technical analysis to time your trades.

And this is my personal approach:
Fundamental Analysis is beneficial for long-term investments while Technical Analysis is useful for short-term trading or day trading.
FA is the vehicle that will get you to your destination.
TA is GPS that guides you on when to make turns.

Both of them had different roles, traders would use TA while Holder would use FA. This is why we just focus on understanding the one the most needed for us, though we can still learn both of them as well. But the question arises if we could execute it well because it makes no sense if we fail to understand the situation of the market. We know TA and FA, plus executed well, and choose the right project(s) --success isn't far from happening. That is obviously not an easy job for us but certainly earn good rewards in the end.

You need to master this one first
Be fearful when others are greedy and be greedy when others are fearful from Warren Buffet.

If you can not master it, can not understand the psychology of market cycles, you will fail with both fundamentals and technical analysis because your fear and greed will prevent you to do right decisions.

It is a biggest challenge and a hardest one to master, not technical or fundamental analysis.

This is the shortest explanation for this two, and yes this is correct.
Fundamental tells us if the project if worthy, and technical analysis helps us on timing the market so we can get the best price at the right time. This two should complement each other and if you are a long term investor, better not to forget to do fundamental analysis because not all project can be good in long term.

That's the basic knowledge that many beginners in trading forget. They abandon these two things, hoping to still earn; some rely on free trading signals or purchase signals from paid channels or groups. Without them knowing that, even though it is hard to learn and execute these two elements in tradition, eventually it will be worth it. And it's easy to learn this thing because all the resources, such as ebooks, videos, or study materials, are all over the internet; you just need to give it time and patience to absorb them. Anyway, it's good that you give your friend advice like that or an idea; it will be helpful for his trading journey. We just hope that he will know more about the two things you've mentioned. Yeah, it's a bit hard to absorb it all at once, and there's no guarantee that you will always have a winning trade, so I guess you should also have a good mindset while trading.

This is the basic thing that you should not forget to learn when you are planning to trade or invest.
We know this market is risky and in order for us to minimize such risk we should do our own analysis and having that Fundamental analysis and Technical analysis skills can save you a lot of money. Everyone should not skip this learning part because its very important, we can’t trade successfully if we don’t have proper knowledge about this or else, you are doing gambling.

You have explained it well, but in the last, I would say Fundamental tells us when to do and Technical tells us what to do because in fundamental we get to know the sentiments of the market whether it is of BTC or ALTs market. Once we get to know that it's time to make profits or take entry or I should say it's time to accumulate or distribute.

After getting to know when to do what, there comes how to do it (means what to do) either we should follow the levels or trends of the market or ignore them and avoid all the risk assessments and enter the market at once or exit the market at once, etc.

These are the points that comes in handy in technical analysis further technical analysis is a little bit hard for me but for other it might not be as fundamental we only have to be active so that when we get the news we can act upon it.

This is somehow funny to me honestly, just like you have explained the fundamental and technical analysis. Fundamental is just all about getting new about the market from the news while technical analysis is all about using our knowledge about chart patterns, candle sticks etc to evaluate what direction the market tend to go. The fundamental analysis is very different from the technical and we can use either to trade in the market depending on how we want our results to be. Although many traders make use of the technical analysis to trade the market most time.

When it comes to differences then it would really be that basically be speaking or talking about FA= News / TA= Indicators/Tools. Actually it could really be able to move or could be used purely basing up on the situation which we know that not all the time this market could really be having that kind of sentiments or news around on which you could really be making some fundamental analysis on which means that
you cant really be able to rely on it from time to time since not all the time which news do comes out. This is why it would really be that important that you should really know on making use of Technical indicators
on which means that you would really be needing to know as well so that you do able to make your positions even if the market doesnt really have any news around.

In case if there's one, then you could make use of both, try to have if there's some confluence between two on which this is something that you will really be able to find out
if that one would correlates to each other or not, you are the ones who would really be able to find it out.

Both are complementary to the other. Fundamental analysis tells you basic information upon which to build the trading strategy that characterizes this stage. Then the role of technical analysis is whether it is primary or secondary. If the fundamental analysis tells you that the Bitcoin market is rising as in the coming months, then choosing a trading strategy that makes you buy now instead of spreading out dates. Buying and vice versa is true. When fundamental analysis does not give you an answer, the role of technical analysis comes in strengthening one of the hypotheses at the expense of the other hypothesis.

without good fundamental analysis, your final trading decision will be in vain, and without good technical analysis, your final trading decision will be in vain, so a balance between fundamental and technical analysis is very important, the point is, never be trivial with the history of bitcoin prices and also news about bitcoin circulating in the market, apart from that the other most important thing is risk management, yes that is a complete package to become a good trader, you need a balance of all three so that the final trading decision you make can be right.

As much as I respect the opinion of everyone, for me, the technical analysis is better. I've been using both fundamentals and technical analyses since I started trading many years back and I've come across software and companies propagating their gospels about the two. The issue is that more lies/confusions go for the interpretation of the fundamental analysis and some news would always disappoint the expectation of people no matter how exect they are. There are also many news that would be interpreted in a way but the market will move in the opposite, this is not because the interpretation is wrong but the sentiment of the market doesn't just care, which is why news could be so frustrating regardless of how good you are at it.

But if you are good with the chart reading, I must tell you that you would be so unstoppable in trading and will be earning consistently with less frustration and market disappontment. Also, there is nothing that would happen through the news that the effect would not be felt on the chart, and hence technical analysis traders could interpret and trade it. Meaning, nothing is truly hidden from the technical analysis.

I simply do not understand your grammar, it's so wrong of the two. How could one tell you something and the other tell you to do it? Are you saying the two must be used together? This is all wrong as the two are independent of each other and you can use them independently as well. For fundamental analysis, read/hear the news, digest/interpret it and act on your trading platform whether to buy or sell.

As for technical analysis, you solely read your chart and you act accordingly (buy/sell).

Knowledge and mastery of both analytical methods will greatly increase a traders chances of success. A trader who focuses on technical analysis will have results but not as good and consistent as it would have been had they known fundamental analysis. A trader who focuses on Fundamental analysis alone and not technical analysis will even make greater mistakes and errors in trading that will lead to losses. I personally feel that  both are necessary to know, but technical analysis is the most important. You can place a trade by just technically analyzing the charts and profit from the trade better than when you only rely on news and events to make a trade.

Among all, the fundamental analysis is the most important one because a trader can not do well when he or she has not gotten the fundamental knowledge of the trading tools. And the technical analysis is when you have mastered the fundamental then you use it to finalize the trading process. It is the time you can breakdown the movement of the market to know when to start and when to stop. Though all are necessary in the trading, a trader can't do without the both both the fundamental is the first of it all.

Technical analysis traders are the ones using the charts to read where the markets go even in a short time frame relying on indicators. When they understand the use of moving averages and all, they combine what they learn outside the chart that affects the prices which is the fundamental news.

ETF approval news is like fundamental news. I think some of those TA guys who are shorting after it went down to $31K were burned when suddenly another ETF news comes. Fundamental news must be useful for those insider traders.

Yeah, that's, more like it. I don't seem to compare the both but I do see people saying Technical Analysis is better. I do believe that both are good particularly fundamental which can direct you about the long-term journey of a particular asset. That's why is better before making any decision, we check both. I do get weekly insights on these two exchanges I use mostly Binance and Bitget, then check up some other news apps before deciding to trade

Let me make this to be short, both technical and fundamental analyses are very important. You hear of good news, miners are not selling, exchange outflow to noncustodial wallet is increasing, long term holders are not selling, the present bitcoin spot ETF approval and many others like that makes the price of bitcoin to increase. The technical analysis is good too. You can still know that the price of bitcoin is not as high as all-time-high, you do not need to ask anybody, you can see it from the chart while analysing. You can also see from the chart a lot of information that makes it important. Both are very important and not need comparison.

Not exactly this but you have some merit on your opinion. Fundamental Analysis is use for long term holdings since you will choose an asset to invest if it has a good fundamentals so that you can guarantee success in the future while Technical Analysis can give you a guide on when to enter and exit through indicator and chart patterns.

I said you have a merit since you are right on your point but lacking some details, Fundamental Analysis is the foundation of your investment while Technical Analysis gives you the guide for your investment.

So, my friend who just started trading asked me which is better Fundamental and Technical Analysis. So, this is the reply I gave which I also decided to share with others who don't know how this works hand in hand.

Fundamental Analysis and Technical Analysis are not inherently better than each other. Fundamental Analysis allows you to assess the potential direction of a coin's price, whether it's bearish or bullish. For instance, you can observe how Bitcoin's price has responded to positive news, which you can find on exchanges news insights, as well as popular news apps. Technical Analysis comes into play to further analyze price movements. Is just as easy as that.


Fundamental tells you what to do, while Technical tells you when to do it