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Topic: Kumala - sending pm's asking for a 1 BTC loan for vircurex (Read 1160 times)

legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
An edited post is usually NOT sufficient to prove ownership, but I'll remove my tag. I cannot speak for other people though.
Due to their very childish and untrustworthy behavior following the *hack*, I am not going to remove my negative. Maybe after a sufficient amount of time has passed, and after the user apologizes to everyone else who they have neg. rated, then I may consider changing it to neutral.

This decision is final. Therefore, do not send me PMs unless you want to get blocked.
copper member
Activity: 686
Merit: 603
Electricity is really just organized lightning
kirch posted the Bitcoin address 1AkTo6PLaWVoJNyzvwoZBL1FZ9zPPGvXx6 a year ago in a thread that has been edited since. Blocktrail remembers it being posted though.

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1AkTo6PLaWVoJNyzvwoZBL1FZ9zPPGvXx6/links

I asked kirch by PM to sign a message from the address he staked yesterday, and it verifies.

I know that I am trusting blocktrail to be correct here, but on this occasion I will give him the benefit of the doubt and will remove the negative tag shortly and replace it with a neutral one.

This was the message:

signature:         H6+xteF2LEWtdWEmdYfQ5XlCDRfToV1qzi/QZuA6wS6nLrP3wKqoPfMzCAJQUEvI62Jyz1L7DeAIke+AWCDCSQQ=
for the address: 1AkTo6PLaWVoJNyzvwoZBL1FZ9zPPGvXx6
message:          Zepher requested this. The date is 13 May 2017

An edited post is usually NOT sufficient to prove ownership, but I'll remove my tag. I cannot speak for other people though.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I don't think it's so hard to ask the escrows you used to just post what address you usually use for your transactions. I do think they will be a cooperative bunch that will help you out with your problems. Then when they do, you can just sign a message and everything would have gone away, but you chose the hard route, now you create more problems for yourself.

the problem is I used wallet fresh addresses from blockchain.info wallet and the i can retrieve only last few transactions and i don't know if i can get signin messages from the wallets addresses that are not archived/saved
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I said,i have never staked any addresses here.
Are you 100% sure about that?
You've staked 1AkTo6 yesterday (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18989599),
which you had posted and removed a year ago here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13821313

yes..i have not done untill yesterday..i realized the mistake and did it yesterday

I don't remember..posting/deleting..if you can retrieve and send me the btc address ,i will try to check my blockchain/LBC wallet..and see if i can get signin message
copper member
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1874
Goodbye, Z.
I said,i have never staked any addresses here.
Are you 100% sure about that?
You've staked 1AkTo6 yesterday (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18989599),
which you had posted and removed a year ago here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13821313
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 250
I don't think it's so hard to ask the escrows you used to just post what address you usually use for your transactions. I do think they will be a cooperative bunch that will help you out with your problems. Then when they do, you can just sign a message and everything would have gone away, but you chose the hard route, now you create more problems for yourself.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
@kirch: If you keep on spamming our trust page, I think you should be banned! If you want to prove your innocence and that you are the real owner of that account, you should resolve this in an orderly manner and not spam people who tagged your account as a hacked account. That's just childish. People here are reasonable and the moment they see proof that you are the legitimate owner then for sure everyone will cooperate to remove the red trust. Like what Lauda said, "you are digging your own hole" here.

In the event you do prove your ownership, I will remove the red trust. But because of your behavior, I will leave the red trust that you are a childish person which does not deserve to be trusted.

It was not retaliation at all..but some users think they are gods and they have right to neg rep (and their profile/rep speaks for it)..I haev literally begged them that I am ready to prove the ownership of my account..but they still want to prove it on their terms ..
I am ready to prove the owner ship..in any other alternate way ..cos I have not staked any btc address here (my mistake)



I am ready to prove that the btc address that are used for sending/receiving btc through PMs are my own and can prove those transactions in my wallets

I AM NOT SPAMMING ,BUT ONLY RESPONDING TO THE POSTS
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 250
@kirch: If you keep on spamming our trust page, I think you should be banned! If you want to prove your innocence and that you are the real owner of that account, you should resolve this in an orderly manner and not spam people who tagged your account as a hacked account. That's just childish. People here are reasonable and the moment they see proof that you are the legitimate owner then for sure everyone will cooperate to remove the red trust. Like what Lauda said, "you are digging your own hole" here.

In the event you do prove your ownership, I will remove the red trust. But because of your behavior, I will leave the red trust that you are a childish person which does not deserve to be trusted.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 3158
I received this PM from Kumala :

hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
LOL..I have removed and requested you to do the same
But you said you will not ..so the neg rep is back again
"Requested" is a nice way of describing attempted extortion. You are digging your own hole deeper and will likely get tagged by even more DT members.

Saying NO is different from letting you know your stand and reason for not doing
I would have never bothered if you had valid reason for not doing and not simply saying I WILL NOT DO
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
LOL..I have removed and requested you to do the same
But you said you will not ..so the neg rep is back again
"Requested" is a nice way of describing attempted extortion. You are digging your own hole deeper and will likely get tagged by even more DT members.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I said,i have never staked any addresses here.
Did I mention any staked addresses in my previous post? I have not. I clearly said that a BTC address previously sent to a escrow is required from it and a new signed message from it.

If you can't trust,I can not help.
I sure as hell ain't trusting some random person from the internet.

I don't mind about the neg trust if you are not removing..cos i always use escrow  (if ever i want to buy anything here) and bothers me little with neg trust
After seeing this fake and retaliatory negative on my profile, you can forget about the removal of my rating:


I don't even know why I bother helping some people.

LOL..I have removed and requested you to do the same
But you said you will not ..so the neg rep is back again

I have just restored your rep !

Good day



legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
I said,i have never staked any addresses here.
Did I mention any staked addresses in my previous post? I have not. I clearly said that a BTC address previously sent to a escrow is required from it and a new signed message from it.

If you can't trust,I can not help.
I sure as hell ain't trusting some random person from the internet.

I don't mind about the neg trust if you are not removing..cos i always use escrow  (if ever i want to buy anything here) and bothers me little with neg trust
After seeing this fake and retaliatory negative on my profile, you can forget about the removal of my rating:


I don't even know why I bother helping some people.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I have sent my btc address to escrows here..may be you can teamview my wallet to verify the transactions (check if address in my PMs and addresses/transactions in my btc wallet matches)
I'm going to say no to the Teamviewer idea. You need to get one of those escrows to confirm 1 of the addresses that you've used with them and then you need to sign a message (dated with the current time) with said address.

yes,i have requested you and told you what may have happened..you have shown empathy and replied me
Trustworthiness has nothing to do with empathy. I have absolutely none for that matter.

I have removed the neg rep and requested you to do so..but you have not cared or replied..others have not responded to me yet
Leaving retaliatory negative ratings equals to further digging your own hole.

I said,i have never staked any addresses here.
If you can't trust,I can not help.

I don't need to go and beg everyone..if i am not the real owner of the account..
It is easy to buy a hero account for $50 here...I am just trying to sort out the mess and to undo the damage done by the hacker
Luckily,he has not scammed anyone..but tried to do and left neg trust
I don't mind about the neg trust if you are not removing..cos i always use escrow  (if ever i want to buy anything here) and bothers me little with neg trust

Thanks and have a great day
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1043
yes,i have requested you and told you what may have happened..you have shown empathy and replied me
I have removed the neg rep and requested you to do so..but you have not cared or replied..others have not responded to me yet

If you don't want to remove the neg rep,it is ok..but you should have told me so

The negative rep is there to warn others currently that your account has been used for suspicious activities the last 24 hrs.

If you were still the hacker (and you have given no proof at this point) and we removed the red flag you could make another scam attempt and be successful this time around.

Nothing personal just trying to stop some newbie getting ripped off.

legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
I have sent my btc address to escrows here..may be you can teamview my wallet to verify the transactions (check if address in my PMs and addresses/transactions in my btc wallet matches)
I'm going to say no to the Teamviewer idea. You need to get one of those escrows to confirm 1 of the addresses that you've used with them and then you need to sign a message (dated with the current time) with said address.

yes,i have requested you and told you what may have happened..you have shown empathy and replied me
Trustworthiness has nothing to do with empathy. I have absolutely none for that matter.

I have removed the neg rep and requested you to do so..but you have not cared or replied..others have not responded to me yet
Leaving retaliatory negative ratings equals to further digging your own hole.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I see you have left another negative on my account

"I TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT ALT OF @KUMALA AND EXPLAINED WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPNED.THANKS "

Just saying "it wasnt me doing all that dodgy shit in the last 24hrs" doesnt really cut it with no proof as it could just as easily be the hacker posting that statement dont you agree kirch?

Any reason why you have singled me out for the negative and not the other 4 members that also left you negative feedback?




yes,i have requested you and told you what may have happened..you have shown empathy and replied me
I have removed the neg rep and requested you to do so..but you have not cared or replied..others have not responded to me yet

If you don't want to remove the neg rep,it is ok..but you should have told me so
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1043
I see you have left another negative on my account

"I TOLD YOU THAT I AM NOT ALT OF @KUMALA AND EXPLAINED WHAT MAY HAVE HAPPNED.THANKS "

Just saying "it wasnt me doing all that dodgy shit in the last 24hrs" doesnt really cut it with no proof as it could just as easily be the hacker posting that statement dont you agree kirch?

Any reason why you have singled me out for the negative and not the other 4 members that also left you negative feedback?


hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I don't have any staked btc address here
Without a signed message from a previously used address, I am not removing anything.

~Cat

i  have not posted my btc address on the threads or staked any address till now

I have sent my btc address to escrows here..may be you can teamview my wallet to verify the transactions (check if address in my PMs and addresses/transactions in my btc wallet matches)

legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
I don't have any staked btc address here
Without a signed message from a previously used address, I am not removing anything.

~Cat
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Just noticed kirch left negative feedback on my account for this thread flagging Kumula.

Negative reciprocated scamming retard.

Update:
Hey..
It is news to me..I have not left any feedback to you

Just checked..indeed there is a feedback left

I think my account has been compromised or something else

I am removing your feedback rightaway

sorry

Very sorry..i have and found that there are 3 more neg trust left from my account,with out my knowledge.I am investigating who did it.

i have removed the neg trust..and please do the same

His password is also showing as being recently reset


I have reset the password now..the password was not reset by the person who left neg trust..
I guess the forum passwords are leaked..and everyone has to reset them for security

I will try to remove negative trust left on other from my account

Regret for the inconvenience

You have to prove that you still own that account. Post a signed message from an address which was staked. The older the better.

I can do what ever it takes to prove that i am innocent and never asked anyone for loan or left any negative feedback in last 24 hrs

You could really start with a signed message.

I don't have any staked btc address here
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 250
Just noticed kirch left negative feedback on my account for this thread flagging Kumula.

Negative reciprocated scamming retard.

Update:
Hey..
It is news to me..I have not left any feedback to you

Just checked..indeed there is a feedback left

I think my account has been compromised or something else

I am removing your feedback rightaway

sorry

Very sorry..i have and found that there are 3 more neg trust left from my account,with out my knowledge.I am investigating who did it.

i have removed the neg trust..and please do the same

His password is also showing as being recently reset


I have reset the password now..the password was not reset by the person who left neg trust..
I guess the forum passwords are leaked..and everyone has to reset them for security

I will try to remove negative trust left on other from my account

Regret for the inconvenience

You have to prove that you still own that account. Post a signed message from an address which was staked. The older the better.

I can do what ever it takes to prove that i am innocent and never asked anyone for loan or left any negative feedback in last 24 hrs

You could really start with a signed message.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Just noticed kirch left negative feedback on my account for this thread flagging Kumula.

Negative reciprocated scamming retard.

Update:
Hey..
It is news to me..I have not left any feedback to you

Just checked..indeed there is a feedback left

I think my account has been compromised or something else

I am removing your feedback rightaway

sorry

Very sorry..i have and found that there are 3 more neg trust left from my account,with out my knowledge.I am investigating who did it.

i have removed the neg trust..and please do the same

His password is also showing as being recently reset


I have reset the password now..the password was not reset by the person who left neg trust..
I guess the forum passwords are leaked..and everyone has to reset them for security

I will try to remove negative trust left on other from my account

Regret for the inconvenience

You have to prove that you still own that account. Post a signed message from an address which was staked. The older the better.

I can do what ever it takes to prove that i am innocent and never asked anyone for loan or left any negative feedback in last 24 hrs
unfortunately I have not staked any btc addresses here
May be the mod/admin can check my IP address and also check the IP address changes and matches with any other user and map it with other accounts that shared the IP address when my account is hacked
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 250
Just noticed kirch left negative feedback on my account for this thread flagging Kumula.

Negative reciprocated scamming retard.

Update:
Hey..
It is news to me..I have not left any feedback to you

Just checked..indeed there is a feedback left

I think my account has been compromised or something else

I am removing your feedback rightaway

sorry

Very sorry..i have and found that there are 3 more neg trust left from my account,with out my knowledge.I am investigating who did it.

i have removed the neg trust..and please do the same

His password is also showing as being recently reset


I have reset the password now..the password was not reset by the person who left neg trust..
I guess the forum passwords are leaked..and everyone has to reset them for security

I will try to remove negative trust left on other from my account

Regret for the inconvenience

You have to prove that you still own that account. Post a signed message from an address which was staked. The older the better.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
Just noticed kirch left negative feedback on my account for this thread flagging Kumula.

Negative reciprocated scamming retard.

Update:
Hey..
It is news to me..I have not left any feedback to you

Just checked..indeed there is a feedback left

I think my account has been compromised or something else

I am removing your feedback rightaway

sorry

Very sorry..i have and found that there are 3 more neg trust left from my account,with out my knowledge.I am investigating who did it.

i have removed the neg trust..and please do the same

His password is also showing as being recently reset


I have reset the password now..the password was not reset by the person who left neg trust..
I guess the forum passwords are leaked..and everyone has to reset them for security

I will try to remove negative trust left on other from my account

Regret for the inconvenience
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
I got this message also,
 others things I just receive loan request from kirch (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kirch-92027)
with same btc address, so hight probablity, that  both account hacked, and controlled by the same person.

You are correct,I have not sent any message to you or anyone in last 12 hrs.
I have not left any trust on any one.. I think my account is compromised.I have changed the password and restored back

Sorry for the inconvenience

legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1104
This is what I do. I drink and I know things.
Just noticed kirch left negative feedback on my account for this thread flagging Kumula.

Negative reciprocated scamming retard.



What can you say man? As someone stated long before...

legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1043
Just noticed kirch left negative feedback on my account for this thread flagging Kumula.

Negative reciprocated scamming retard.

Update:
Hey..
It is news to me..I have not left any feedback to you

Just checked..indeed there is a feedback left

I think my account has been compromised or something else

I am removing your feedback rightaway

sorry

Very sorry..i have and found that there are 3 more neg trust left from my account,with out my knowledge.I am investigating who did it.

i have removed the neg trust..and please do the same

His password is also showing as being recently reset
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1104
This is what I do. I drink and I know things.
I got this message also,
 others things I just receive loan request from kirch (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kirch-92027)
with same btc address, so hight probablity, that  both account hacked.
You should have quoted it right here. I have tagged that account as well. At least it looks like they have not managed to scam anything (yet).

Loan Amount: 0.2
Reason for Taking out a Loan: Personal Reasons
Amount to be repaid: 0.43
Repayment Date: 2 days
Type of Collateral: No Collateral
Bitcoin Address: 1ATuRjXbQ7bEDgyzfQmsU14JB5jq94T4gd

Definitely untrustworthy:


I also received the same message : http://imgur.com/a/GKLcz

As for kirch, he/she already try to get some BTC through Loan Request : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18985593
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1148
~snip~
He isn't. They guy who posted same address was kirch.
He is asking lauda to remove the -ve trust which is off-topic on here.
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1043
Please sir remove feedback from my ID, I have repaid the loan.

The issue is not if you have repaid the loan.  The issue is you are using the same address as Kumula.

As the owner of vircurex why are you scraping around for 0.2BTC loans?
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
I got this message also,
 others things I just receive loan request from kirch (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kirch-92027)
with same btc address, so hight probablity, that  both account hacked.
You should have quoted it right here. I have tagged that account as well. At least it looks like they have not managed to scam anything (yet).

Loan Amount: 0.2
Reason for Taking out a Loan: Personal Reasons
Amount to be repaid: 0.43
Repayment Date: 2 days
Type of Collateral: No Collateral
Bitcoin Address: 1ATuRjXbQ7bEDgyzfQmsU14JB5jq94T4gd

Definitely untrustworthy:
legendary
Activity: 3542
Merit: 1548
Get loan in just five minutes goo.gl/8WMW6n
I got this message also,
 others things I just receive loan request from kirch (https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kirch-92027)
with same btc address, so hight probablity, that  both account hacked, and controlled by the same person.
legendary
Activity: 2674
Merit: 2965
Terminated.
It is indeed very likely that said account is hacked and that it is spamming a lot of forum users with requests for donations (look at the other trust ratings). I have left them a negative rating, and so should you.
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1043
Just had the following unsolicited pm from Kumala:

Profile:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kumala-41776

Never had any dealings with this person so I presume he's spamming the forum looking for "donations"

A big gap in posting history between 2015 and 2017 so could be a hacked account.

Hello.

I am owner of Vircurex.
https://vircurex.com

Our company was released on 2011 year.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.588084
https://gyazo.com/5789509b1a632a6f0e562a8afb355dbd


Untill 20th we will need to release our new website design and btc wallet.

I am requesting from you to simply donate  1BTC to make us improve faster(: - We will repay you 2BTC once we release our new company.
1ATuRjXbQ7bEDgyzfQmsU14JB5jq94T4gd

There is no collateral.

We will start running our new company before 20th in my opinion.

I promise you will be re payed 2BTC immediately.

Right now we have daily 700 visitors, monthly 20.000 visitors. before years we had daily 3000 visitors.



Hope you understand us.

Best Regards
Kumala

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