Well, that was a jolly good read! Scammer caught, I suppose.
Scammer caught! Looks like we've got a happy end!
Well not really, the guy got away with stealing the coins....
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Well, that was a jolly good read! Scammer caught, I suppose.
Scammer caught! Looks like we've got a happy end!
sorry for the inconvenience and I will pay my loan as soon as possible, mtgox is not down forever but our coins are onhold, I hope you understand this situation, my reputation is and will be intact after this inconvenience, any questions please send me an email at [email protected]
Oh yeah, Martinver, I LOVE the trust rating you left me: "This guys think they know it all, and dont let good people to get loans, they are the only ones that want to get the loan market scamming people with collateral bullsh...t."
But yet you're the one who hasn't paid back his loan, just like I called it
But yet you're the one who hasn't paid back his loan, just like I called it
Nice, I have been really busy on internal party campaign!!
Martin,
Your loan on BTCJam is now overdue. Are you going to prove me right, again?
https://btcjam.com/users/8968
sorry I just got back from dinner with the team, it was great to talk with the congressman and other friends, enjoy the weather, cuz it is awesome here in mexico.
I know - I'll be down there in Feb buying a sailboat.
I have been really busy at the congressman office, I dont have time for this sh.it right now, I see VOD has nothing else to do, but freezing his ass trying to get a demand from me. but I see it is worthless to discuss and argue with you guys, it is useless and has no point, I am smarter and I wont quit btc, but will quit discussing with a bunch of crappers like you, hope you find peace and something better to do, have a great week!!
So you lied about contact a lawyer then?
We'll see how actually honest you are when it comes time to repay your loan that you are losing 10% on.
I have been really busy at the congressman office, I dont have time for this sh.it right now, I see VOD has nothing else to do, but freezing his ass trying to get a demand from me. but I see it is worthless to discuss and argue with you guys, it is useless and has no point, I am smarter and I wont quit btc, but will quit discussing with a bunch of crappers like you, hope you find peace and something better to do, have a great week!!
No I am not running away, I am just done discussing with as...sholes!!!
RING RING!
Today is the day MARTINVER is going to a lawyer to sue for me defamation!
Martin, let us know what happens. If you do nothing, that will be a good indication you are just a scammer, as I suspected from the start.
Odd.
Martinver was on yesterday and today, and no comment?
Guess I was right again.
No I am not running away, I am just done discussing with as...sholes!!!
RING RING!
Today is the day MARTINVER is going to a lawyer to sue for me defamation!
Martin, let us know what happens. If you do nothing, that will be a good indication you are just a scammer, as I suspected from the start.
I like the Trust he left Tomatocage: This guys think they know it all, and dont let good people to get loans, they are the only ones that want to get the loan market scamming people with collateral bullsh...t.
How dare he or anyone ask for that scammy collateral to protect against default from total unknowns! I mean....where's the humanity?
I guess it really is about a handful hogging all the loans to themselves. 
How dare he or anyone ask for that scammy collateral to protect against default from total unknowns! I mean....where's the humanity?
I guess it really is about a handful hogging all the loans to themselves. 
And he dissapears... Certain that he is a scammer.
Well, let's wait until his current btcjam loan defaults... THEN we can call him a scammer.
https://btcjam.com/listings/8920
(But I agree with you in pre-default.
)MONDAY - he is contacting his lawyer about suing me for defamation.
DONT HASSLE OR SPAM OR BRING BAD COMMENTS TO MY POST, I AM DOING IT THE BEST I CAN, I KNOW I AM NOT A GOLD COIN TO BE FRIENDS OF ANYONE, BUT I DO MY BEST, SEND MESSAGE WITH RESPECT AND I WILL RESPECT YOU THE SAME WAY, THANKS FOR YOUR TRUST AND SUPPORT!!
the first thing I requested on my post and it is the first thing you do put a Neg on my trust!!
the first thing I requested on my post and it is the first thing you do put a Neg on my trust!!
It's a warning to others. If you proven him wrong without the suspicious loan with your alt he would of removed it. But, you have just made it worse for yourself and provided us with enough information that your initial intentions were to take that money and not return it.
DONT HASSLE OR SPAM OR BRING BAD COMMENTS TO MY POST, I AM DOING IT THE BEST I CAN, I KNOW I AM NOT A GOLD COIN TO BE FRIENDS OF ANYONE, BUT I DO MY BEST, SEND MESSAGE WITH RESPECT AND I WILL RESPECT YOU THE SAME WAY, THANKS FOR YOUR TRUST AND SUPPORT!!
the first thing I requested on my post and it is the first thing you do put a Neg on my trust!!
the first thing I requested on my post and it is the first thing you do put a Neg on my trust!!
I am not backing, like I am telling you I just want my name clean, and if it takes a lawsuit I will do it, because you are nobody to difame anyone anywhere. Respect others intent to grow their reputation, dont drop it because you felt like. why you didnt first send me a private message telling me that having to open loan in other website, that has nothing to do with this one will earn me a negative trust. It is the way you guys do it that fu..ck up this website.
Nope - I can guarantee you will never file a lawsuit on me.
lol now who is pathetic lol, accept it and pick on someone else because I am not backing, at least do what tomatocage offered me. and by the way why did you block private messages from me, you couldnt handle it and thought that I will just let this pass?
Yep - one profane message in all caps told me you would have nothing important to say, and I blocked you.
You are backing down. I can guarantee you I will never see any lawsuit papers. You are just a small time scammer and liar.
When you see the papers in your hand what are you going to do, ask me for a truce? or cancel your travel to mexico?
Will Santa Claus be delivering it?
ok, I must assume you are able to pay punitive damages?
Shut up with your garbage.
Until I see papers in my hand, you are just a pathetic liar.
I offered you a truce VOD and you are not accepting it, what do you want me to do?
What good is a truce? I'm not at war with you. All I did was show people you are a potential scammer when you took out two simultaneous loans with unsustainable interest rates.
You then made it personal by calling me a bunch of names. So funny how you forget that and threaten to "sue" me for calling you a name. lol
Bring on your lawsuit because I'm calling you a pathetic liar.
thank you for your observations and when its your first investment, one never thinks anything you do could be picky and creepy for others, assuming that you guys will see when my second loan gets repaid, and get all your words in the deepest part of your body!!!
what bluff VOD, I just want my name and my integrity to be respected, you cant call anyone a scammer just because you want to, even though we are posting in the internet, anything you do have its consequences and you will feel them, because you didnt want to be humble and eat your words, you think you are smart and know it all, but guess what you dont.
I am not in a political charge, but I am close friend of the senator and the congressman, I bet you already noticed. If you want me to take it to the next level, I will.
what bluff VOD, I just want my name and my integrity to be respected, you cant call anyone a scammer just because you want to, even though we are posting in the internet, anything you do have its consequences and you will feel them, because you didnt want to be humble and eat your words, you think you are smart and know it all, but guess what you dont.
I am not in a political charge, but I am close friend of the senator and the congressman, I bet you already noticed. If you want me to take it to the next level, I will.
If you can prove it to me/us that you are not a scammer, and we believe you. then I'm sure Vod, tomatocage and I will remove the neg trust. We are not calling anyone a scammer because we want to, we are suspecting you, and I will remove the neg trust if you can show me that you are a scammer (repeating myself).
I am not in a political charge, but I am close friend of the senator and the congressman, I bet you already noticed. If you want me to take it to the next level, I will.
Don't wait - take it to the next level tomorrow.
ok, good to know !! I offered you a settlement obviously you are not thinking clearly, you have until Monday 10 am to accept it, otherwise I will talk with my lawyer.
Dude, I've already called your bluff. I don't believe you are stupid enough to sue for defamation when you have done the exact same thing, but you may be.
Don't wait until Monday - go see him/her tomorrow.
Look at what martinver left trust to ffrogman and what ffrogman left for him:
Martinver to ffrogman:
ffrogman to Martinver:
Let's not say they have the same sentence: He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
ffrogman's tx id is the same as martinver's tx id.
Logically, ffrogman should use this
ffrogman = martinver = scam
Martinver to ffrogman:
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I RECEIVED A LOAN FROM HIM, NICE GUY!!
I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7
He paid back to my requested address here:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1
He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7
He paid back to my requested address here:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1
He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
ffrogman to Martinver:
Quote
I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7
He paid back to my requested address here:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1
He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7
He paid back to my requested address here:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1
He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
Let's not say they have the same sentence: He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
ffrogman's tx id is the same as martinver's tx id.
Logically, ffrogman should use this
Quote
link on the "I sent him 0.5 BTC in this transaction", but not the one martinver sent btc back to him after the loan,assuming that martinver's comment is correct.ffrogman = martinver = scam
I was quoting him if you see I put "I RECEIVED A LOAN FROM HIM, NICE GUY!!" and then quoted him
ok, good to know !! I offered you a settlement obviously you are not thinking clearly, you have until Monday 10 am to accept it, otherwise I will talk with my lawyer.
Sure... You can say whatever you want. I'm just trying to protect this community from scammers... I read everything and VOD and others does have their point and are valid. I'm just listing any suspicions...
Look at what martinver left trust to ffrogman and what ffrogman left for him:
Martinver to ffrogman:
ffrogman to Martinver:
Let's not say they have the same sentence: He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
ffrogman's tx id is the same as martinver's tx id.
Logically, ffrogman should use this
ffrogman = martinver = scam
Martinver to ffrogman:
Quote
I RECEIVED A LOAN FROM HIM, NICE GUY!!
I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7
He paid back to my requested address here:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1
He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7
He paid back to my requested address here:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1
He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
ffrogman to Martinver:
Quote
I sent him .05 BTC in this transaction:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7
He paid back to my requested address here:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1
He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
https://blockchain.info/tx/d0ee7e0f6bed95906b20ba605cbc8e7f0b08f62552c984e16eb5deec8e9c12a7
He paid back to my requested address here:
https://blockchain.info/tx/d00fce0a9d769bba1072992e32c09d99cb36010536388243a9c1646b7c870ec1
He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
Let's not say they have the same sentence: He was trustworthy and paid back on time at a higher interest rate than we agreed to.
ffrogman's tx id is the same as martinver's tx id.
Logically, ffrogman should use this
Quote
link on the "I sent him 0.5 BTC in this transaction", but not the one martinver sent btc back to him after the loan,assuming that martinver's comment is correct.ffrogman = martinver = scam
ok just let me know when you remove the negative trust and I will remove all the comments and threads where i discuss with you,
Why would you do that? Were all your comments pure bullshit?
Ok, I just erased one of the loans VOD or Martin Lawerence, and your reason for the negative trust was that and I quote "User is taking out two simultaneous "reputation loans" with unsustainable interest rates. Will remove this when he stops this practice" now that I just have should you "logically" remove the negative trust and I also request to stop harrasing and difaming my name or I will sue you for that and in your next vacation to Mexico you will receive a nice full paid penitenciary room for two years according to Mexican Law, so please stop this activity or I will sue you, thank you!!
I accept your conditions.
I will be visiting Mexico this February. I assume you hold a political position of power in Mexico, and didn't really need the 0.25btc loan you just took out?
That led me to this thread because I looked at martinver's post history after I saw the comment on btcjam. I invested in his loan because I invested in him 2 weeks or so ago and told him I would consider investing again. He messaged me after I was done being busy for the holidays and I agreed to invest in him on btcjam.
I'm active because I got an email alert that Vodd posted on martinver's btcjam investment page.
How did that lead you to this thread?
In fact, what led you to invest in his loan on BTCJam anyway?
Coincidence?
I am not his alternate account. I don't know how I can prove this to you.
I find it mighty strange you are now active all of a sudden?
You are garbage VOD, a drunky one, I dare to prove there is a connection between ffrogman other than loans or that I am having alt account, probably you have done it to scam people, but not me.My honor is before than scaming people, I have never do, and never will scam anyone, and as i said I will prove you are wrong, time will be my best asset against your comments.
You do realise that if you just give collateral which the lender agrees on this will all be sorted? (plus finding this thread as soon as you are accused of being a alt account).
Wait, hang on a second here. You expect has to believe that this "ffrogman" signed up and posted 3 posts in the gambling section and 1 in the loan section, where he claimed that it all went okay and he made a point in his post that you could of run away with the money but didn't? He didn't ask no questions, neither did he ask for collateral?
I love the trust rating you left on Tomatocage by the way "Collateral bullshit" there is a reason why people ask for collateral.
I love the trust rating you left on Tomatocage by the way "Collateral bullshit" there is a reason why people ask for collateral.
It is not VOD, dont let your prejudize blind you, that guy is the one that had been trusting on me, and I ask you for respect to him, this is the second loan he gives me, this time is a longer time and more amount, he is a great investor anyone would love to have. Ask the admins to check if the IP are the same and any info be respectful to him.
Sure. We must show respect to everyone while you treat us all like garbage.
ffrogman is your alt account.
I am not tomatocage and I will prove you guys are wrong, not now cuz i barely received the loan but I wont discuss with you guys anymore, time will prove it all, so I will just letting it run and prove I am right, thanks for your concerns.
Hey, care to explain why you used your own coins to fund your loan? Just to make it appear to be successful?
https://btcjam.com/listings/8920
ffrogman is your alternate account.
Well played Vod. I see that he's gone rather quiet now?
I am not tomatocage and I will prove you guys are wrong, not now cuz i barely received the loan but I wont discuss with you guys anymore, time will prove it all, so I will just letting it run and prove I am right, thanks for your concerns.
Hey, care to explain why you used your own coins to fund your loan? Just to make it appear to be successful?
https://btcjam.com/listings/8920
ffrogman is your alternate account.
Abuse of the trust system by Vod
This isn't an abuse of the Trust system when he's 100% correct. You're running the classic BTCJam reputation scam.
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