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Quote from: hd49728 on July 09, 2021, 05:20:26 AM

I don't think they will let Varane leaves. And if he leaves then Real Madrid won't find any replacement, it might bring a terrible season for them. Alaba won't be able carry the whole defense system of Real Madrid in a long season. A good defense system need to work as a system, with some good players. Marcelo is old too and his performance is unstable already.

They also could try to make one instead of buying. They have Vallejo and some more young CB's so Ancelotti needs to work out with that much only. I also saw a report a week ago about management saying "no transfers" to Ancelotti as they plan to save up for Mbappe or Haaland transfer in future. There were also reports about Mbappe not extending his contract and his contract runs out in June 2022.

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Yeah but Varane's transfer might open a hole so yeah they might need to look at it. Still there is lot of time and there wouldn't be much going on actively with the Euro's going on right now. Here is a report that Real Madrid will not look into replacement if Varane leaves: https://www.managingmadrid.com/2021/7/9/22569770/real-madrid-varane-transfer-news-replacement-2021

I don't think they will let Varane leaves. And if he leaves then Real Madrid won't find any replacement, it might bring a terrible season for them. Alaba won't be able carry the whole defense system of Real Madrid in a long season. A good defense system need to work as a system, with some good players. Marcelo is old too and his performance is unstable already.

If Real Madrid still let go of Vaarane, they will be in a terrible crisis. Now that they have such a squad, it is not possible to win the title with this squad unless a miracle happens. I don't understand how the new coach of Real Madrid will arrange the team. Only Benzema is the most experienced striker in the squad. At least 2 experienced strikers are required for a good performance against strong opposition. If Ramos and Varane leave the team together, their defense will be completely shattered.

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Quote from: Avirunes on July 09, 2021, 05:02:03 AM

Didn't they just now bought Alaba? He is a good and experienced player and sure is a good replacement for Ramos.

Real Madrid have a good and experienced player. He has a long career because he debuted in Bundesliga when he was very young. Even now, he is still young enough to have about 4 more years at his best.

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Yeah but Varane's transfer might open a hole so yeah they might need to look at it. Still there is lot of time and there wouldn't be much going on actively with the Euro's going on right now. Here is a report that Real Madrid will not look into replacement if Varane leaves: https://www.managingmadrid.com/2021/7/9/22569770/real-madrid-varane-transfer-news-replacement-2021

I don't think they will let Varane leaves. And if he leaves then Real Madrid won't find any replacement, it might bring a terrible season for them. Alaba won't be able carry the whole defense system of Real Madrid in a long season. A good defense system need to work as a system, with some good players. Marcelo is old too and his performance is unstable already.

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Ancelotti wants to see Everton Richarlison striker in the team, as well as Sterling in Real Madrid's area of interest. But if Varane leaves, you will have to buy another center-back in addition to Nacha and Militao.The team will have to do a lot of work in the transfer market in order to create a competitive team for the next season.

For Real Madrid attack, I think it's still fine, and maybe Real Madrid don't really must to think about it at the moment, because in that position there are still a lot of Real Madrid reserve players who might be able to fill every position in their current front line, but Anceloti should focus on their current defence, I think real madrid should immediately improve their back line (defense), because at the moment their defense is a bit fragile, especially after the departure of ramos, of course their defense leaves a pretty big hole now and I think anceloti should be able to cover the hole with a defender who does have the same quality as Ramos.

Didn't they just now bought Alaba? He is a good and experienced player and sure is a good replacement for Ramos. Yeah but Varane's transfer might open a hole so yeah they might need to look at it. Still there is lot of time and there wouldn't be much going on actively with the Euro's going on right now. Here is a report that Real Madrid will not look into replacement if Varane leaves: https://www.managingmadrid.com/2021/7/9/22569770/real-madrid-varane-transfer-news-replacement-2021

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Quote from: abhiseshakana on July 09, 2021, 04:46:27 AM

I have the same thoughts. After Ramos left, Real Madrid lost a formidable world-class defender and his leadership. For that Real Madrid must be able to get a replacement, at least as a backup for Varane and Militao. Moreover, if Raphael Varane also leaves Real Madrid because at this moment Man United is very keen on chasing Varane.

Finding a good defender is difficult, especially if the budget provided is not large enough.

With such losses in defense, Real will concede even more goals next season than they conceded. It will be possible to use the bet more and more often, both teams will score and the total is over 2.5. Real Madrid must seriously think about the line of defense, without this it will be impossible to fight for big goals. Also, the problem of the absence of a leader on the field can be very acute.

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Quote from: DU18 on July 09, 2021, 04:22:52 AM

For Real Madrid attack, I think it's still fine, and maybe Real Madrid don't really must to think about it at the moment, because in that position there are still a lot of Real Madrid reserve players who might be able to fill every position in their current front line, but Anceloti should focus on their current defence, I think real madrid should immediately improve their back line (defense), because at the moment their defense is a bit fragile, especially after the departure of ramos, of course their defense leaves a pretty big hole now and I think anceloti should be able to cover the hole with a defender who does have the same quality as Ramos.

I have the same thoughts. After Ramos left, Real Madrid lost a formidable world-class defender and his leadership. For that Real Madrid must be able to get a replacement, at least as a backup for Varane and Militao. Moreover, if Raphael Varane also leaves Real Madrid because at this moment Man United is very keen on chasing Varane.

Finding a good defender is difficult, especially if the budget provided is not large enough.

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Quote from: kassex on July 09, 2021, 04:06:59 AM

Ancelotti wants to see Everton Richarlison striker in the team, as well as Sterling in Real Madrid's area of interest. But if Varane leaves, you will have to buy another center-back in addition to Nacha and Militao.The team will have to do a lot of work in the transfer market in order to create a competitive team for the next season.

For Real Madrid attack, I think it's still fine, and maybe Real Madrid don't really must to think about it at the moment, because in that position there are still a lot of Real Madrid reserve players who might be able to fill every position in their current front line, but Anceloti should focus on their current defence, I think real madrid should immediately improve their back line (defense), because at the moment their defense is a bit fragile, especially after the departure of ramos, of course their defense leaves a pretty big hole now and I think anceloti should be able to cover the hole with a defender who does have the same quality as Ramos.

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As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Sergio Ramos has signed a contract with PSG running until 2023. I think that PSG are a good choice for him. He can achieve many titles still. Ramos has been a very special and great player to me and he will always stay like that. Maybe he was not a home-grown player at Real Madrid but he played at Real for many many years.

Good move for Ramos.PSG is a nice choice for him because its a big club that suits his caliber of person.Talking of Varane leaving Real Madrid also,I think this present coach,Ancelotti, is ready to do without the pair.It is rumoured that Man-u is interested in wrapping up a deal for Varane,and reports says that the player is also keen to join the Red devils. It is yet to be seen what happens in the couple of days to come.

Yeah, there are still some rumours about the probability of Varane going to Manchester Utd. It wouldn't be good for Real Madrid. They will have to look for a new and strong defender to fill his place in case he leaves. But I think their priority should be signing a top striker. Benzema can't be enough just by himself.

Ancelotti wants to see Everton Richarlison striker in the team, as well as Sterling in Real Madrid's area of interest. But if Varane leaves, you will have to buy another center-back in addition to Nacha and Militao.The team will have to do a lot of work in the transfer market in order to create a competitive team for the next season.

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As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Sergio Ramos has signed a contract with PSG running until 2023. I think that PSG are a good choice for him. He can achieve many titles still. Ramos has been a very special and great player to me and he will always stay like that. Maybe he was not a home-grown player at Real Madrid but he played at Real for many many years.

Good move for Ramos.PSG is a nice choice for him because its a big club that suits his caliber of person.Talking of Varane leaving Real Madrid also,I think this present coach,Ancelotti, is ready to do without the pair.It is rumoured that Man-u is interested in wrapping up a deal for Varane,and reports says that the player is also keen to join the Red devils. It is yet to be seen what happens in the couple of days to come.

Yeah, there are still some rumours about the probability of Varane going to Manchester Utd. It wouldn't be good for Real Madrid. They will have to look for a new and strong defender to fill his place in case he leaves. But I think their priority should be signing a top striker. Benzema can't be enough just by himself.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on July 07, 2021, 11:49:48 AM

Nothing is irreplaceable in football and that can describe Ramos' situation with Real Madrid. In addition to the player's contribution to the team, age will also be a factor why coach and management have to think about finding replacement. Ramos has served Real Madrid for more than 10 years and he deserve to be called a Legend. Letting him go find a replacement might sound easy, but it's never worth his contribution to the team. But it seem Real Madrid have enough squad to put in Ramos' position.

I know. Real Madrid and Florentino Perez don't have tradition to give old players a long contract. They want to sign one-year contract only that is not what Ramos want. Disagree, then he goes away, joins PSG.

Ramos is not a player with too much confidence on what he can achieve and does not want to sacrifice his salary to get one year contract.

Quote from: hahay on July 07, 2021, 12:07:34 PM

Yes, actually there is nothing to worry about the position left by Ramos because after all, regeneration is necessary and it is time for Madrid to find and get potential players. After all, when athletes are no longer young, at least they will also have their own way of life whether they choose to retire or continue with the risks that are always there. If Ramos chooses to continue his career because there are other teams that need him, then I think it doesn't matter either because after all, Ramos still has a healthy body because that is the most important factor.

New generation need time and Barcelona witnessed it in the last season. Real Madrid prepapred for it 2 to 3 seasons ago since the transfer of Ronaldo but their young players are not matured enough.

It will be very bad for them if Varane leaves the club too.

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for me despite being a fan of real madrid I'm not convinced that real madrid will achieve great things this season

Real Madrid fans do not expect a good performance or title from Real Madrid next season. They will disappoint you. I would have expected better performances from Real Madrid if they had picked a star player like Haaland or Mbappe. All clubs want to strengthen their squads, but Real Madrid have weakened themselves.

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Sergio Ramos has signed a contract with PSG running until 2023. I think that PSG are a good choice for him. He can achieve many titles still. Ramos has been a very special and great player to me and he will always stay like that. Maybe he was not a home-grown player at Real Madrid but he played at Real for many many years.

Good move for Ramos.PSG is a nice choice for him because its a big club that suits his caliber of person.Talking of Varane leaving Real Madrid also,I think this present coach,Ancelotti, is ready to do without the pair.It is rumoured that Man-u is interested in wrapping up a deal for Varane,and reports says that the player is also keen to join the Red devils. It is yet to be seen what happens in the couple of days to come.

I didn't imagine PSG would be the place he would end up being. PSG is certainly putting all of their chips in one place and I was expecting them to not get Ramos at all, maybe a younger better defender but not him certainly. I was fully ready to see Ramos in some sort of Chinese or Qatar league by now because he is getting to that age by now, he should be focusing on just money and where his talents would still be at a superstar level.

PSG on the other hand? I am not sure if it is a good move by them, I mean sure he was one of the best defenders for a while but right now? He is just a bitter old man who tackles way too hard and just doesn't run as much as he used to, is this a good move? Would this hurt the locker room more than it helps the team? I really don't know, I seriously would have preferred another player that is maybe 10 years younger than him.

No one can question Ramos quality the only problem I see for him is staying out of injuries and he will certainly will be making a lot of difference for them as we have seen age is just a number for certain players, look at Pepe with Portugal this Euro his surely outperformed his partner Diaz and he is at age of 38 closing on 39 most players at the age of 33-34 retire especially at the National team as he would like to focus on what it left of his career with his club, and i belleive that this Euro is not going to be the last for Cristiano Ronaldo in 2024 he will be there, a guy like him with that level of fitness and no serious injuries in his long career will be still kicking the ball for 4 more years.
Other news considering La Liga Diego Simeone has extended his contract with Atletico Madrid through 2024 after winning the club's 11th in history and second under him.
He has been manager at Atletico since 2011, making him the person who has coached a team for the most consecutive seasons in La Liga.

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Sergio Ramos has signed a contract with PSG running until 2023. I think that PSG are a good choice for him. He can achieve many titles still. Ramos has been a very special and great player to me and he will always stay like that. Maybe he was not a home-grown player at Real Madrid but he played at Real for many many years.

Good move for Ramos.PSG is a nice choice for him because its a big club that suits his caliber of person.Talking of Varane leaving Real Madrid also,I think this present coach,Ancelotti, is ready to do without the pair.It is rumoured that Man-u is interested in wrapping up a deal for Varane,and reports says that the player is also keen to join the Red devils. It is yet to be seen what happens in the couple of days to come.

I didn't imagine PSG would be the place he would end up being. PSG is certainly putting all of their chips in one place and I was expecting them to not get Ramos at all, maybe a younger better defender but not him certainly. I was fully ready to see Ramos in some sort of Chinese or Qatar league by now because he is getting to that age by now, he should be focusing on just money and where his talents would still be at a superstar level.

PSG on the other hand? I am not sure if it is a good move by them, I mean sure he was one of the best defenders for a while but right now? He is just a bitter old man who tackles way too hard and just doesn't run as much as he used to, is this a good move? Would this hurt the locker room more than it helps the team? I really don't know, I seriously would have preferred another player that is maybe 10 years younger than him.

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well now we will have to see sergio ramos at PSG wearing the number 4 jersey. he was a great player from real madrid, I'll miss him, when I play video games I'm very happy when I choose real madrid and when sergio ramos catches the ball and make goal. the next FIFA and Pro Evolution Soccer video games will be very interesting.

who will win this season's league?

for me despite being a fan of real madrid I'm not convinced that real madrid will achieve great things this season

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Quote from: Furious 7 on July 08, 2021, 10:33:28 AM

I just thought that the madrid management just wanted to look for a younger and stronger one with a long lasting meaning that long-term prospects were very much in mind compared to Ramos who is now old, but I think it was a decision and Ramos became a free transfer.

The Madrid club is in financial trouble, so even if they wanted to, they would not be able to take on star players now. I think Real Madrid were not interested in keeping Ramos in the team because of his high salary. Now the Real Madrid coach is focusing on young players. It seems Real Madrid are planning for the long term now.

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The regeneration is indeed very important to find potential players that Real Madrid expect but with the replacement of the new coach who made that decision, he really doesn't want to use Ramos as a defender anymore but I'm sure if Zidane is still coach of Real Madrid he will definitely keep Ramos in a few more seasons.

Well, this has become a factor of age, inevitably having to go that age in the top leagues will not accept it anymore even if it only lasts a few seasons and this will be a factor in salary as well as lack of stamina with the appearance of Ramos he won't be 10 years before when he was young.

Maybe Carlo Ancelotti wants to keep Ramos too. It's just that Real Madrid's management said otherwise.

The main issue is about the contract and communication that doesn't go smoothly. I'm sure that If the communication between management and Ramos goes well then Ramos will stay at Real Madrid because Ramos doesn't really want to leave Real Madrid and he actually agreed to a 1-year contract extension with a reduced salary.

Maybe that's true, I forgot not only about the coach but also management plays a role in this so I didn't find an agreement with Ramos and it was better to look for other players than Ramos.

I just thought that the madrid management just wanted to look for a younger and stronger one with a long lasting meaning that long-term prospects were very much in mind compared to Ramos who is now old, but I think it was a decision and Ramos became a free transfer.

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As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Sergio Ramos has signed a contract with PSG running until 2023. I think that PSG are a good choice for him. He can achieve many titles still. Ramos has been a very special and great player to me and he will always stay like that. Maybe he was not a home-grown player at Real Madrid but he played at Real for many many years.

Good move for Ramos.PSG is a nice choice for him because its a big club that suits his caliber of person.Talking of Varane leaving Real Madrid also,I think this present coach,Ancelotti, is ready to do without the pair.It is rumoured that Man-u is interested in wrapping up a deal for Varane,and reports says that the player is also keen to join the Red devils. It is yet to be seen what happens in the couple of days to come.

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As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Real Madrid don't lose anything. They bought and used Ramos more than ten years and the best time of Ramos is left in Bernabeu. He is a legend player in Real Madrid but not a home-grown player. Ramos knows he does not have too many seasons left in his career and Real Madrid will not treat him well as a legend player. He decided smartly to enjoy his left seasons in another club that can bring high salary, longer contract and titles.

Sergio Ramos has signed a contract with PSG running until 2023. I think that PSG are a good choice for him. He can achieve many titles still. Ramos has been a very special and great player to me and he will always stay like that. Maybe he was not a home-grown player at Real Madrid but he played at Real for many many years.

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If they let him go, it means they will have to spend heavily to get much better defenders having in mind that there's no more Zizou who would use his tactics to rely young players to replace injured senior players. As things stand right now, Varane still has one year left on his contract. They could decided to keep him and risk having him leave on free transfer next summer.

Manchester United did want to sign Varane since two seasons ago, but only recently got the green light from Real Madrid. The problem is that there is
no price agreement between Madrid and Man United, Real Madrid has lost Sergio Ramos, then the presence of Varane is needed by Madrid. There is
a possibility that Varane is in Madrid until his contract runs out, because Real Madrid charge a very high price. But according to the news I read
Man United have a back-up plan in case it fails to sign Varane, Man United are eyeing Jules Kounde from Sevilla and Tyrone Mings from Aston Villa.

As Real Madrid have lost Ramos, I think they wouldn't like to run the risk of losing Varane also. I really wonder what's going to happen. Will Real Madrid manage to convince him and extend his contract or else?

Manchester Utd have been after Kounde for a long time actually. There were some rumours in the last transfer window about it also. If they don't succeed in signing Varane, this time they'd probably become serious about Kounde.

Real Madrid tried several times to offer Varane a contract extension, but according to the news I read, Varane rejected Madrid's offer.
Looks like Varane really wants to move to another team, but if Real Madrid in the 2021/2022 season can get a La Liga or Champions
League trophy, there is a possibility that Varane will change his mind. Jules Kounde has a more realistic price, so I predict Man United
will fail to sign Varane. Even though Varane is Man United's priority right now, but the price Real Madrid wants is too high.

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I doubt that they could charge a high price because Varane publicly said he wants out, when a player says he wants out then the price of that player suddenly goes down under what he is really worth. I mean there is a sweet spot for players, if the team doesn't want to really sell but you gave them an offer on what he worths then they may charge even more, if the team and player comes to agreement to seek for a price and maybe they may consider selling then you can get away with what the player worths, but when a player wants out then the price is very low.

I remember the opposite happening, Neymar went for 220 million total I believe, which turns out to be a good move because it put PSG into map, not a bad choice of money spending as well. If varane really decides that he wants out, then he will have the chance to get sold for a good amount not so high.

Indeed, in some news Varane wants to move from Madrid, therefore Varane refuses a contract extension offered by Madrid. But not necessarily
the price will be lower, because as long as Varane is still under contract with Madrid, Madrid has the right to determine the selling price of Varane.
The problem is Real Madrid don't want to lose Varane, that's why Real Madrid are asking for a high price. Even though Varane's contract will
expire soon, therefore there is a possibility that Varane will move on a free transfer.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on July 06, 2021, 06:59:08 PM

Manchester United did want to sign Varane since two seasons ago, but only recently got the green light from Real Madrid. The problem is that there is no price agreement between Madrid and Man United, Real Madrid has lost Sergio Ramos, then the presence of Varane is needed by Madrid. There is a possibility that Varane is in Madrid until his contract runs out, because Real Madrid charge a very high price. But according to the news I read Man United have a back-up plan in case it fails to sign Varane, Man United are eyeing Jules Kounde from Sevilla and Tyrone Mings from Aston Villa.

I doubt that they could charge a high price because Varane publicly said he wants out, when a player says he wants out then the price of that player suddenly goes down under what he is really worth. I mean there is a sweet spot for players, if the team doesn't want to really sell but you gave them an offer on what he worths then they may charge even more, if the team and player comes to agreement to seek for a price and maybe they may consider selling then you can get away with what the player worths, but when a player wants out then the price is very low.

I remember the opposite happening, Neymar went for 220 million total I believe, which turns out to be a good move because it put PSG into map, not a bad choice of money spending as well. If varane really decides that he wants out, then he will have the chance to get sold for a good amount not so high.

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