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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

I rather believe in something I see than something they tell me. Betting on an event is something you can bet on because they are reliable even though sometimes they are fixed and can also be manipulated. If for instance, Manchester City has a match with Burnley, I can confidently make that bet that Manchester will win without a doubt, I will go to sleep confidently but I can bet confidently on a blackjack because the owner of the casino told me house edge is 2%. I believe in too much on the skill of a person more when gambling.

I don't like to bet on UFC fight because nowadays, the fight look stage and organizers are just looking for money than letting it happen naturally. Look how Francis Nganu lose to Anthony Joshua with a blow, too weak for that kind of man. Don't be surprised if they manipulate Tyson Fury match with that little boy.
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He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Isn't this called "conflict of interest"? What if somebody finds out that this guy(and his friends and relatives) has made more money by losing the fight instead of winning? Can't all the people, who bet money on him simply start a lawsuit against him? At the end of the day, this is cheating and the people, who bet money on him were scammed. And yes, the "Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson" circus isn't a serious boxing match, so i wouldn't recommend anyone to bet big money on this circus. I'm sure that it would be pretty easy to prove in court, that this guy and his uncle made money by placing bets on the other fighter.
That is the kind of thing that could get an athlete banned for life from their sport and facing criminal charges, most professional leagues put on their contracts that no member can place bets even on their favor, so it is obvious that betting against yourself is a form of fraud and a contract violation, and athletes are even encouraged to avoid gambling completely to avoid rising the suspicion they could be doing something they should not, and very often that prohibition also includes close family members, so anyone doing that will end up with a criminal record for sure.
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Yes, definitely there should be certain rules against the players from making bets tho, it's likely possible they can do it without being caught, who gets involved and was caught is who they considers a victim of law breaking. In every sports I believe their is every means deployed by this experts to make the game look not rigged whereas an under ground work is being carried out. We as gamblers may not be opportuned to detect all this, we just stake or bet under probability and waits the outcome.
There are rules that are imposed already but it's just that there are only players who sometimes don't abide them because they think these rules sucks and they think they can gain more advantage if the play outside it. Maybe there are some who are lucky and skilled enough to not get caught but we can only wish they will get busted next time so that the competition will get fairer. Verified legit betting platforms are not rigged but sometimes we bettors are only paranoid to think they are like that, especially if we experience to lose a lot.

Whoever is found guilty should be severely punished, for misleading gamblers who staked their wins on him, with some months ban and a fine.
Indeed that those who are guilty of committing a violation should be punished accordingly so that other's won't follow it anymore or their rates will only get lowered if stopping them completely is not possible.
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He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Isn't this called "conflict of interest"? What if somebody finds out that this guy(and his friends and relatives) has made more money by losing the fight instead of winning? Can't all the people, who bet money on him simply start a lawsuit against him? At the end of the day, this is cheating and the people, who bet money on him were scammed. And yes, the "Jake Paul vs. Mike Tyson" circus isn't a serious boxing match, so i wouldn't recommend anyone to bet big money on this circus. I'm sure that it would be pretty easy to prove in court, that this guy and his uncle made money by placing bets on the other fighter.
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Op what you are saying isn't far from what's happening in the real life situations. Most times some of these players who have gained quite a good reputation just intentionally losses a match, this is even common in the football game, but if your are caught, you'll face the fifa ban. But in real sense, I don't get the reason why someone would actually lose a match intentionally just because he wants to get extra gain from betting against himself. I deem that to be wickedness because ones you start such behavior, you can never get satisfied meaning, from time to time they'll still bet against their selves.
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Many people are suspected of match fixing in combat sports. But I agree with you that it does happen but not all fighters and all fights involve match fixing. Some professional fighters also reject match-fixing because it derails their careers. I think a five round fight or going by the judges has the potential to be rigged. But defeat by knockout/submission is almost impossible due to match fixing.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
For the actual UFC? I doubt that this is happening, maybe it does but very rare. Because those UFC fighters have their career on stake and if they're willing to do that kind of match fixing then they must be prepared to lose their career on an instant. They're professionals and I am not sure if they've got sworn and oath before going on to become a professional fighter. But this isn't just happening in the UFC because of the movie you've watched but even in some other sports including the common esports nowadays, there are match fixing. It's just sad that because of gambling that big money is going on with these matches and they affect the competitiveness and seriousness of these matches and fights.

If they're proving how good they are with their skills, win or lose that won't be taken from them. The legacy that they will leave is important to them and that's why I think that most of them or if there any one that has done or will do it have already accepted their fate. But AFAIK, most of these athletes or fighters before signing their contracts, they've got conditions that they shouldn't do any gamble to the first, second or how many degree they have in their family. You know what I like with contact sports to be specific is that it's uniqueness of having the twist of the result with just having a single blow from the losing fighter to the winning fighter that can turn the table on the losing fighter's favor.
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Firstly, it is very difficult to prove in retrospect that a particular match was fixed. To do this, you need to find materials that would confirm this. For example, oral negotiations between match participants and those who bet on the outsider with a large odds. Or correspondence between participants in a fixed match. At the same time, it is still necessary to prove that these negotiations or correspondence are not a fake, invented by a neural network on the instructions of some prankster. In addition, there must be a result of the match that would be highly doubtful. For example, an experienced and titled team unexpectedly loses to a newcomer for no reason. This is always suspicious in terms of match fixing.

I'm a skeptic in this regard....
In my opinion, the number of fixed matches is very high.  In fact, the coaches and team use bookmaker bets to make money.  And this is part of the overall sports financing strategy.  Unfortunately, this is a reality under capitalist relations.  In this case, of course, no written or mental evidence of match-fixing remains.  The participants in these matches are not interested in such evidence being available to the public. 
All interested parties consider income from match fixing as part of their salary system.
This makes me remember on telegram, just yesterday my wife found on telegram a supposed referee who left refereeing because she had referee friends who always fixed the matches, and that she was now dedicated to giving or making the type of rigged bets because she knew how clearly who was going to win and that the only thing he had to do was invest starting at 50usd and that in 4 hours he was in charge of working that money to earn more than triple, then he is a clear scammer, and surely they have scammed many, so these types of things of rigged aprtidos for me do exist and it is a shame, because corruption is something that cannot be stopped even in struggles, no matter how much technology there is, the eprosnas continue to commit acts of corruption, for this reason it is very ugly Admit it, but there are still many corrupt things in sports.
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Firstly, it is very difficult to prove in retrospect that a particular match was fixed. To do this, you need to find materials that would confirm this. For example, oral negotiations between match participants and those who bet on the outsider with a large odds. Or correspondence between participants in a fixed match. At the same time, it is still necessary to prove that these negotiations or correspondence are not a fake, invented by a neural network on the instructions of some prankster. In addition, there must be a result of the match that would be highly doubtful. For example, an experienced and titled team unexpectedly loses to a newcomer for no reason. This is always suspicious in terms of match fixing.

I'm a skeptic in this regard....
In my opinion, the number of fixed matches is very high.  In fact, the coaches and team use bookmaker bets to make money.  And this is part of the overall sports financing strategy.  Unfortunately, this is a reality under capitalist relations.  In this case, of course, no written or mental evidence of match-fixing remains.  The participants in these matches are not interested in such evidence being available to the public. 
All interested parties consider income from match fixing as part of their salary system.
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You got a very solid point on the fact that one shouldn't be bothered if any match is fixed, but should just bet anyways and perhaps the match results turn out to favour them.
That is the true story for those who just places their bet and go to sleep or to do some other more interesting activity, only to return and see that they have won big on a bet they didn't put so much thought to.

Over thinking will surely and always do take the fun and thrill out of any risky endeavor, mostly as regards gambling or placing a bet and that's the fact.
Yes, that will be their decisions whether to still place a bet or leave the bet without thinks too much. They don't have to follows what other people who still place a bet, especially if they can't accept the reality that the match is fixed. They better leave it and not watch the match or their feeling will gets the impact of the dislike.

If that happens to us, we can used our time to do other things that's not related to gambling because that can makes them to feel enjoy with the other activities. We must search for the other activities that can gives us happiness and we will gets many things  besides of using gambling to have fun. So it's not be a problem if we thinks that match is fixed because we have the other thing to release our stress.
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If someone bet Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson and believe the match will going to serious, they're made mistake. You can't really know which one will win because it's an exhibition match, so I won't be surprised if Jake Paul will win.
Hahaha, Mike Tyson agreed and wanted to fight Paul because of the money and of course the money that Mike Tyson could make was huge, this was one of the main reasons why the fight took place.
Some people don't care about this fight because they will only rely on what is superior to win in betting but this fight is not an exhibition because there are other things that can happen.
If the medical test before the fight shows that Mike Tyson is having problems or does not meet the requirements, Sakio Bika will be the substitute fighter who will replace Mike Tyson, I read this in several trusted news media that I follow.
In the end it all comes down to money but this is not an exhibition fight.

So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.
I believe this is illegal in professional match, the player must not intentionally lose the fight and his relatives must not bet on his match. That's why most casinos ask KYC to prevent from this kind to happen.
Is KYC only intended for this kind of thing?
Many KYCs can be completed with fake data or buying other people data to complete KYC and everything can be much easier than we think.
If it is related to context like this, I think it will only happen in unimportant fights because for important fights that involve fighting for championship belt, no fighter will deliberately give up.
Winning can give him more money and for the next fight when it becomes fight to defend the championship belt it can also give him more money, they won't care about the bets made by their uncle or relatives.
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Thing like this happen a lot, even in the football sector, there is quite a good number footballer who break FIFA rule by gambling on a match that they ought to play or gamble against themselves, and such player have quite a good reputation in their team to deliver against their opponent but yet, we watch them missing lots of chances with 80% probability that they ought to perform well. If FIFA finds out, the player in question will definitely get a ban and a fine for a period of time. Due to this fact, I believe it's enough reason to prove to everyone that gambling is entirely based on luck.
We have players that have always been on the edge of breaking significant rules and I must say this, FIFA puts close range on these players and any player caught will have to face challenges and this will be out of shape for most of them, remember there are punishment for every rules been broken. We've been in the system and watch closely how everything play out and the shocking events that will shuts our mouths because there's absolutely nothing to do other than observing the system.
Yes, FIFA has adopted some quite strict regulations and consequences for player misconduct, both on and off the field. Fines, suspensions, and even permanent bans from the sport are among the sanctions. I believe this is significant because it sends a clear message that such behaviour is not accepted in the sport. However, I'm not sure if the punishment is enough to actually change the culture of gambling and illicit behaviour in sports, because regardless the rules, people still indulge in irresponsible gambling and sporting and allowing it to get between them and their lives.
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Firstly, it is very difficult to prove in retrospect that a particular match was fixed. To do this, you need to find materials that would confirm this. For example, oral negotiations between match participants and those who bet on the outsider with a large odds. Or correspondence between participants in a fixed match. At the same time, it is still necessary to prove that these negotiations or correspondence are not a fake, invented by a neural network on the instructions of some prankster. In addition, there must be a result of the match that would be highly doubtful. For example, an experienced and titled team unexpectedly loses to a newcomer for no reason. This is always suspicious in terms of match fixing.
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Thing like this happen a lot, even in the football sector, there is quite a good number footballer who break FIFA rule by gambling on a match that they ought to play or gamble against themselves, and such player have quite a good reputation in their team to deliver against their opponent but yet, we watch them missing lots of chances with 80% probability that they ought to perform well. If FIFA finds out, the player in question will definitely get a ban and a fine for a period of time. Due to this fact, I believe it's enough reason to prove to everyone that gambling is entirely based on luck.
We have players that have always been on the edge of breaking significant rules and I must say this, FIFA puts close range on these players and any player caught will have to face challenges and this will be out of shape for most of them, remember there are punishment for every rules been broken. We've been in the system and watch closely how everything play out and the shocking events that will shuts our mouths because there's absolutely nothing to do other than observing the system.
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

The movie scenario you mentioned is a product of fiction and might not likely be happening in reality. Since you referred to that UFC fighter as a reliable bet, it means the said fighter might be popular, therefore we can consider him as a big professional fighter.

If these professional players/athletes are involved in intentional loss, the cost of it is so huge, better than being a one-time millionaire just to win the high odds on the bookies. A player might faced sanction such as stripping the status of being a professional athlete with a lifetime ban on that sport, lose sponsorships, face a lawsuit, and many other worse things.

I doubt a professional fighter will be involved in that.
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Pretty sure this happens all the time in boxing, martial arts, and even in other sports, seen firsthand in a local tournament how one team threw the whole game and their chance at lifting the trophy cause the match was apparently fixed and they are bound to get a pretty good sum of money guaranteed if they'd just throw the game and let the other team win, we found out it was fixed because there was the difference in skill and overall enthusiasm while playing just changed all of a sudden when they were steamrolling every other team in their bracket and the closest ones previously.

Is it illegal? You can say that, does it ruin the essence of the sport? Yes if you'd ask me. The main reason why we have these types of competitions in the first place is to cement who's the best and who's the strongest athlete or player, and having matchfixing scandals like these destroys the reputation of the sport and the league where it happened in general. But can we really stop it? Nope. It's a systematic flaw that would not be vanquished anytime soon cause people want money, people want certainty, and if that certainty can only be achieved through throwing matches or whatever, they'd be asking you for the pen and where to sign on it without a second thought.

Game fixing is still not totally eradicated in any sports up until now. So yeah, I believe, it is still happening but most of the time, people are just silent about it. Why? Because it is hard to prove if only few people know about it. How can you get evidence of the act? People will talk but it is all talk. This is why you will only hear murmurs but no tangible evidence can be presented.

But if you know the players or athletes involved and know how they perform inside the ring or arena, you will see if there is something wrong with the game. You can see that they are throwing the game. Just like one of the threads here before stating about a local basketball game. The audience clearly saw what was happening because they knew the players involved. Hard to fake your moves while you are playing if the audience already knew how you perform inside the arena.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
Pretty sure this happens all the time in boxing, martial arts, and even in other sports, seen firsthand in a local tournament how one team threw the whole game and their chance at lifting the trophy cause the match was apparently fixed and they are bound to get a pretty good sum of money guaranteed if they'd just throw the game and let the other team win, we found out it was fixed because there was the difference in skill and overall enthusiasm while playing just changed all of a sudden when they were steamrolling every other team in their bracket and the closest ones previously.

Is it illegal? You can say that, does it ruin the essence of the sport? Yes if you'd ask me. The main reason why we have these types of competitions in the first place is to cement who's the best and who's the strongest athlete or player, and having matchfixing scandals like these destroys the reputation of the sport and the league where it happened in general. But can we really stop it? Nope. It's a systematic flaw that would not be vanquished anytime soon cause people want money, people want certainty, and if that certainty can only be achieved through throwing matches or whatever, they'd be asking you for the pen and where to sign on it without a second thought.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
It is called match-fixing and for this, a lot of gamblers suffer a lot for this type of match-fixing. Many people lose where there is a confirmed win. I hate any type of match-fixing as it is related to our emotions as well as our money.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

Is different UFC than boxing, but for sure we have rigged games in both kinds of events, just remember what happened with the Logan Paul VS Mayweather Fight, it ended in a draw, so, all the people who bet on Logan or bets in Floyd lose their money. It was a great day for the casinos.

And we have seen in the past some fights where was obvious how does fighter A won while the Judge decided to give the match to fighter B. When there is a lot of money involved, weird results can show up.
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Thing like this happen a lot, even in the football sector, there is quite a good number footballer who break FIFA rule by gambling on a match that they ought to play or gamble against themselves, and such player have quite a good reputation in their team to deliver against their opponent but yet, we watch them missing lots of chances with 80% probability that they ought to perform well. If FIFA finds out, the player in question will definitely get a ban and a fine for a period of time. Due to this fact, I believe it's enough reason to prove to everyone that gambling is entirely based on luck.
Also happening in boxing, imagine a world champion being beaten by the challenger, and still get a huge amount of profit compare if he will win the match. This is how the contract works and of course, evert team have their own terms and conditions regardless of their reputation as long as the money speaks, they will obey and follow it. This is not new anymore as many rumors already spread before, and yet just a few held accountable for this.
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Match fixing has always been an issue when it comes to competitive sports and betting. It's as old as one can imagine and whatever issues our scenario imagined is actually a very big possibility.

I would like to think that this fixing of matches may become more prone in regions where it is like a major career and for those who enjoy placing a bet on such matches, it would be wise to research the region and cases of such previous happenings before betting huge.

It also would be a wise decision to bet on both sides if there's enough cash or better still, half the original amount intended to bet with on a single player (for boxing matches)and bet on both to win whichever way, incase there's suspicion of match fixing.
We don't needs to bothers to thinks about that and just act normally. If we wants to place a bet, we can try to analyzes the match before we decides. No matter what's the outcomes, we can accept that even if that match is fixing by some people. We don't have to place any bet if we thinks that match is fixing so we don't have to feels anything bad. We just follows what happens to the match.

Maybe we can feels that before we analyze the match or placing a bet because if that match is fixing by them, there will be a sign that be suspicious. People who familiar with that sign can guess that match is fixing by some people and they will not place a bet to any teams or player or they can place a bet with their selection. We must have aware of this and not make a decision if we are not sure so we don't have feels sad or regrets because we make a wrong decision.

True, we as spectators only know everything in general that is published and maybe we just know about which players have a high probability of winning the fight or match without the slightest thought that leads to the cheating scenario, but yes, however unexpected things like that are very possible or have the potential to actually happen but maybe I think such scenarios are quite rare because the problem is that it is impossible for a player or fighter who already has high flying hours and good popularity to sacrifice everything they have worked for just for money.

Although for example the public does not know about what really happened behind the scenes but still the defeat experienced by their favorite player will indirectly cause considerable disappointment and obviously this incident can make supporters put a bad point of view on players who pretend to lose just for money, which means that the player's popularity will at least definitely experience a decline and I'm sure most players don't want to sacrifice their popularity just for money alone.
That's we must not influence by that and accept whatever happens. Besides that, if we are only a viewer, we don't have to watch the match and can choose the other things that can entertain us. Many scenarios can happens with the fixing match so if we thinks that can't gives us the win, we don't have to place a bet instead just to watch the match. That's what people needs to do when they see the match that have a chance to be the fixing match by some people so they don't have to spends their money because the outcomes can be wild. But we can place a bet if we are okay if the money will be lost in that match.

Fans that will be sad when they see their star defeat in that match. But if fans knows about the fixing match, they will do something, especially if they see something wrong with their star. That will makes the organizations gets bad reputations and that means, corruptions or something like that already happens in the organizations. People will asks a higher level to investigate if they thinks that something wrong happens to that match.
You got a very solid point on the fact that one shouldn't be bothered if any match is fixed, but should just bet anyways and perhaps the match results turn out to favour them.
That is the true story for those who just places their bet and go to sleep or to do some other more interesting activity, only to return and see that they have won big on a bet they didn't put so much thought to.

Over thinking will surely and always do take the fun and thrill out of any risky endeavor, mostly as regards gambling or placing a bet and that's the fact.
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Match fixing has always been an issue when it comes to competitive sports and betting. It's as old as one can imagine and whatever issues our scenario imagined is actually a very big possibility.

I would like to think that this fixing of matches may become more prone in regions where it is like a major career and for those who enjoy placing a bet on such matches, it would be wise to research the region and cases of such previous happenings before betting huge.

It also would be a wise decision to bet on both sides if there's enough cash or better still, half the original amount intended to bet with on a single player (for boxing matches)and bet on both to win whichever way, incase there's suspicion of match fixing.
We don't needs to bothers to thinks about that and just act normally. If we wants to place a bet, we can try to analyzes the match before we decides. No matter what's the outcomes, we can accept that even if that match is fixing by some people. We don't have to place any bet if we thinks that match is fixing so we don't have to feels anything bad. We just follows what happens to the match.

Maybe we can feels that before we analyze the match or placing a bet because if that match is fixing by them, there will be a sign that be suspicious. People who familiar with that sign can guess that match is fixing by some people and they will not place a bet to any teams or player or they can place a bet with their selection. We must have aware of this and not make a decision if we are not sure so we don't have feels sad or regrets because we make a wrong decision.

True, we as spectators only know everything in general that is published and maybe we just know about which players have a high probability of winning the fight or match without the slightest thought that leads to the cheating scenario, but yes, however unexpected things like that are very possible or have the potential to actually happen but maybe I think such scenarios are quite rare because the problem is that it is impossible for a player or fighter who already has high flying hours and good popularity to sacrifice everything they have worked for just for money.

Although for example the public does not know about what really happened behind the scenes but still the defeat experienced by their favorite player will indirectly cause considerable disappointment and obviously this incident can make supporters put a bad point of view on players who pretend to lose just for money, which means that the player's popularity will at least definitely experience a decline and I'm sure most players don't want to sacrifice their popularity just for money alone.
That's we must not influence by that and accept whatever happens. Besides that, if we are only a viewer, we don't have to watch the match and can choose the other things that can entertain us. Many scenarios can happens with the fixing match so if we thinks that can't gives us the win, we don't have to place a bet instead just to watch the match. That's what people needs to do when they see the match that have a chance to be the fixing match by some people so they don't have to spends their money because the outcomes can be wild. But we can place a bet if we are okay if the money will be lost in that match.

Fans that will be sad when they see their star defeat in that match. But if fans knows about the fixing match, they will do something, especially if they see something wrong with their star. That will makes the organizations gets bad reputations and that means, corruptions or something like that already happens in the organizations. People will asks a higher level to investigate if they thinks that something wrong happens to that match.
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Thing like this happen a lot, even in the football sector, there is quite a good number footballer who break FIFA rule by gambling on a match that they ought to play or gamble against themselves, and such player have quite a good reputation in their team to deliver against their opponent but yet, we watch them missing lots of chances with 80% probability that they ought to perform well. If FIFA finds out, the player in question will definitely get a ban and a fine for a period of time. Due to this fact, I believe it's enough reason to prove to everyone that gambling is entirely based on luck.
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Reading about your topic made me realize that these things may do happen in real life, although we do not know for sure if these kinds of scenarios do happen or not. I'm not a sports enthusiast or UFC fan but I'm sure that the sports organizations have preventive measures such as regulations to ensure that these kinds of scenarios would not happen in their sports because it would ruin the organization's integrity and reputation as well as their player or fighters.
Yes, that's happen in real world but we don't knows for sure because that practices is hidden from public and not many people will knows. They are smart enough to hides their activity to makes the scenarios works for them without public knows so they can gets the benefits from the scenarios. We as a viewer only knows that the match is fair enough and not have that bad practice but the reality is we don't knows what happens to them. Some people gets the advantages of what they did and maybe the organizations doesn't knows about that or only some people inside the organizations knows about that practice. It will ruins the organizations reputations and integrity if the public knows the truth and the public will demo so the organizations can do prevention of that such practice.

True, we as spectators only know everything in general that is published and maybe we just know about which players have a high probability of winning the fight or match without the slightest thought that leads to the cheating scenario, but yes, however unexpected things like that are very possible or have the potential to actually happen but maybe I think such scenarios are quite rare because the problem is that it is impossible for a player or fighter who already has high flying hours and good popularity to sacrifice everything they have worked for just for money.

Although for example the public does not know about what really happened behind the scenes but still the defeat experienced by their favorite player will indirectly cause considerable disappointment and obviously this incident can make supporters put a bad point of view on players who pretend to lose just for money, which means that the player's popularity will at least definitely experience a decline and I'm sure most players don't want to sacrifice their popularity just for money alone.
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
The bets can indeed be analyzed, it's the same as football betting. but it's still like what you said from the film you watched. manipulation can be carried out in sports matches. Maybe this is also related to the number of sports bets that occur in the match.
I'm not saying that the situation is like that, but we have certainly heard that in football, score fixing often occurs in one match to determine positions or tickets to qualify for the next round.
I personally avoid bets that are very clear or the results are certain. The first reason is that the odds are small, and the second is that surprises often occur beyond our predictions.
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Reading about your topic made me realize that these things may do happen in real life, although we do not know for sure if these kinds of scenarios do happen or not. I'm not a sports enthusiast or UFC fan but I'm sure that the sports organizations have preventive measures such as regulations to ensure that these kinds of scenarios would not happen in their sports because it would ruin the organization's integrity and reputation as well as their player or fighters.
Yes, that's happen in real world but we don't knows for sure because that practices is hidden from public and not many people will knows. They are smart enough to hides their activity to makes the scenarios works for them without public knows so they can gets the benefits from the scenarios. We as a viewer only knows that the match is fair enough and not have that bad practice but the reality is we don't knows what happens to them. Some people gets the advantages of what they did and maybe the organizations doesn't knows about that or only some people inside the organizations knows about that practice. It will ruins the organizations reputations and integrity if the public knows the truth and the public will demo so the organizations can do prevention of that such practice.

Match fixing has always been an issue when it comes to competitive sports and betting. It's as old as one can imagine and whatever issues our scenario imagined is actually a very big possibility.

I would like to think that this fixing of matches may become more prone in regions where it is like a major career and for those who enjoy placing a bet on such matches, it would be wise to research the region and cases of such previous happenings before betting huge.

It also would be a wise decision to bet on both sides if there's enough cash or better still, half the original amount intended to bet with on a single player (for boxing matches)and bet on both to win whichever way, incase there's suspicion of match fixing.
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Reading about your topic made me realize that these things may do happen in real life, although we do not know for sure if these kinds of scenarios do happen or not. I'm not a sports enthusiast or UFC fan but I'm sure that the sports organizations have preventive measures such as regulations to ensure that these kinds of scenarios would not happen in their sports because it would ruin the organization's integrity and reputation as well as their player or fighters.
Yes, that's happen in real world but we don't knows for sure because that practices is hidden from public and not many people will knows. They are smart enough to hides their activity to makes the scenarios works for them without public knows so they can gets the benefits from the scenarios. We as a viewer only knows that the match is fair enough and not have that bad practice but the reality is we don't knows what happens to them. Some people gets the advantages of what they did and maybe the organizations doesn't knows about that or only some people inside the organizations knows about that practice. It will ruins the organizations reputations and integrity if the public knows the truth and the public will demo so the organizations can do prevention of that such practice.
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Money can make a lot of people go against their will. If the strongest fight gives up the fight to a weaker one, it means that the money involved is what he is after and not for respect. I am not surprised that nowadays, people prefer money to respect.

Matches that are been fixed, kills the fun and professionalism of the game, decieving people and extortiing them of their funds in disguise of a bet, which is against the law. I prefer to bet on football matches on big leagues to avoid being a victim to match fixing.
In the world we live in recently, everything is business and every organization is looking for ways to maximize their dividends. It would shock you if I mention that its not only match fixing that the sports world is into, they're using it for money laundering too, if not convince me why a player would be bought for a whooping €100m and be paid €4m monthly.

I think this money laundering present especially in football is why a spending limit was initiated to curb the way money moves around. There are more corruption in circulation and like I pointed out earlier, everything is now seen as business.
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Yes, this kind of things happen, and proof of it is that in many jurisdictions there is criminal legislation on the matter. For example, in Spain it was quite famous some time ago the regulation regarding sports competitions, specially La Liga; and we recently knew about at least one referee who was allegedly bribed.

So yes, it happens, although in which sports and how often will remain a mystery, like most shady and illegal practices.
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Reading about your topic made me realize that these things may do happen in real life, although we do not know for sure if these kinds of scenarios do happen or not. I'm not a sports enthusiast or UFC fan but I'm sure that the sports organizations have preventive measures such as regulations to ensure that these kinds of scenarios would not happen in their sports because it would ruin the organization's integrity and reputation as well as their player or fighters.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
what you've watched isn't just applicable in movies alone, in real ufc fights, thier area matches that are fixed and it's almost certain that it will go on favor of a particular guy. Sports is no longer all about the entertainment it used to be in the past. Each fighter has his own sponsors and all of them want to make in big from whoever they are sponsoring. Iether a fighter wins or looses in a match, he still goes home with his money and and so it's not strange that they might just get paid to fake some sort of knock out and get a folk to win even when he is the weaker fighter. Similar scenario played out during the Anthony Joshua vs Frances fight when it was obvious that the match was already fixed and the fighters just had to come up and entertain their audience and go home with the bag.

To some extent, it's unfair to spectators who pay to get thier ticket expecting that thier favourite fighter wins the match only to witness a display of laxity that's mere product of a manipulated system. Their are real fights that's see till neutral in the UFC but few of them are damn fixed.
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How funny it sounds saying it is more reliable even when you just said someone who has never lost a fight intentionally lost a particular fight due to stakes involved against his opponent but meanwhile... There are other bettors who staked that he would win and believing in him to be a fighter who never lost his matches but unfortunately he lost and those who predicted on him to win failed.

Nothing changes in the luckiness of gambling.

Mike Tyson has made some influential histories so if I would have to bet on the match, I would like bet on him to win and also in the fact that I am his fan.
I will always bet on the side that I will enjoy the game being aware that I may lose or not. 
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

         -   I think that often happens when there is a fight, that instead of betting on their player, they bet on the opponent because of the realistic or practical nature that I see in this kind of thing.
And it doesn't just happen in the UFC fight; it also happens in the boxing fight.

Now for the fight that will happen with Mike Tyson, we don't know if that will happen; it may or may not, and we will know that when it is there on the day of the fight, for sure.
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not only in the UFC but in all sporting events sometimes there are very bad things like insider betting as you said and previously there have been discussions regarding this issue so maybe a lot of people already understand incidents like this and indeed things like what you said it becomes a fear to try betting on sports betting but for me only my own mind is able to throw away negative thoughts like that and prefer to think that whatever happens gambling is always full of surprises and of course luck is also very important.
like in football betting, problems like this often occur, whereas UFC is the sport that many people like the most, only with 1vs1 you can manipulate to give in to lose just for money from the other direction.

with an incident like this, it might be a valuable lesson that betting on casino games or sports betting or any type of betting still has to use an amount that you can afford to lose and to avoid things like this, even though UFC is very profitable, there will still be surprises.
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If someone bet Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson and believe the match will going to serious, they're made mistake. You can't really know which one will win because it's an exhibition match, so I won't be surprised if Jake Paul will win.

So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.
I believe this is illegal in professional match, the player must not intentionally lose the fight and his relatives must not bet on his match. That's why most casinos ask KYC to prevent from this kind to happen.

It is still very possible for a relative to place a bet on his relative even if KYC is involved, all they need to do is ask a friend to pass the KYC and the friend will also be the one to place the bet, the person's name and surname will be different, enough to confuse the platform that they are not related in any way.

You also called the Mike Tyson and Jake Paul fight an exhibition, that sounds like something that can definitely be rigged, it's left for them to choose, win for themselves and their statue, or win or lose for more money.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
I only place low wagers on fights due to the fact that they could be fixed. I don't think Dana White would allow it and would likely ban a fighter for life if he found out, but I'm sure that it has happened.

Far as Jake Paul and Tyson goes, Tyson would kill him if they were going at it. I am pretty sure they are just doing a glorified sparring match and Jake is supposed to be the winner. It's a joke.
I don't really know much about the UFC rule but base on your reply I can say no sport allow the sports men and women to place bet on themselves though I guess they bet on other games while their relative or friends placing a bet on their game is also not allowed and players caught faces punishment for it, this is from my knowledge from football but I guessed it holds the  same on  every sport
Yes, definitely there should be certain rules against the players from making bets tho, it's likely possible they can do it without being caught, who gets involved and was caught is who they considers a victim of law breaking. In every sports I believe their is every means deployed by this experts to make the game look not rigged whereas an under ground work is being carried out. We as gamblers may not be opportuned to detect all this, we just stake or bet under probability and waits the outcome. Whoever is found guilty should be severely punished, for misleading gamblers who staked their wins on him, with some months ban and a fine.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

Yeah this is a big problem in sports betting which made me be more cautious when considering placing larger bets. It's not only in UFC or boxing where one fighter can decide to intentionally to throw a fight. Every athelete can decide to not give his 100% during a game and let the other team win. Of course having family members placing money on your own games which you can influence seem like a violation of professional code of conduct and should lead to some leagal consequences. Are you really willing to risk your whole sports career for manipulating games? Given the large sums of money involved in sports betting, there are many people keeping a close eye on the matches that everything is legit. When I first started out with sports betting I thought that in todays world the manipulating of games would not happen anymore. Unfortunately, this is not true and every year there are new big cases coming out where people managed to throw a game and profit of it. Which is why we need to be cautious and not only focus on our own skill finding the right teams.
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Many decades ago, mafia families used to have a lot of control over boxing. There are even allegations that Muhammad Ali won the heavyweight title against Sonny Liston in a fixed match. The Wikipedia article on this rivalry is fascinating to read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_vs._Sonny_Liston

It is entirely possible that fixed fights are still happening today. Most top UFC fighters are not likely to throw a fight because it would ruin their career, but an undercard fighter who knows they won’t ever become champion could probably get away with acting like they are hurt to force a stoppage.

Exhibition fights like Tyson vs. Paul, I almost expect them to be rigged. These fights are unregulated and there is no obligation for them to have a fair fight. You are taking a risk if you are gambling on these fights. Jake Paul, an NFT scammer, is the exact type of person who would resort to doing something shady for the sake of profit.
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Everything's possible, but in a professional match, fighters are not just focused on their immediate monetary prize. Winning a fight means a lot. It means having a better record. It means you're rising through the ranks. It means you're one step closer to a championship fight, or becoming a star or a celebrity. It means you could fight the biggest name in the sport. This goes on. And all this implies bigger money, higher paycheck. Not to mention that this is also about your name, your pride, your legacy. So, why would you sacrifice all this for the sake of a single bet?

But, yeah, this might not apply to exhibition matches and those that are more of a joke like Jake Paul's fights.
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

If this is proven to be true and facts leaked from previous fights, then this will only lead to so much hate and boycotting from the game of professionals especially in UFC or any professional boxing match. With regards to skill, fighters can chose whom they are going to fight depending on their condition which can give them great advantage.

About the exhibition fight of Tyson and Paul, I just hope that won't be a cocky fight or entertainment fight. And whomever wins on that fight, both of them would truly make large amount of money.
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I think the plan of the uncle and the friend were link to him and that was why he loss the fight to surprise them. If not he would have still fighting with his opponent with a good fight and his uncle and friend would have won him. It is a good calculation. Those who bet on him would loss and that is another part of gambling it is either you lose or you wins. And other y were saying it is 50/50. and may be they have been also winning all these while when they were betting on him too. In any sport the participant must first think of themselves before the fans.
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If you're an MMA fan, watching a set fight is nothing new, just like any sport, because it just happens. Not every match is suspect, but there are some matches with questionable results. Everyone wonders when watching a fight where a seemingly weaker opponent wins or where financial gain takes precedence over the fight itself, it raises a lot of eyebrows. In the same way, mysterious mistakes in top football competitions can evoke doubts. That's also the reason I don't often watch friendly matches. Their emphasis on fun rather than just the competitive nature of the game tends to make them weaker targets and easier to manipulate. Lower stakes in a fight can promote a stronger thrust to land some punches.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

It does happen in some sports today. It’s actually nothing new as match fixing has been going on nearly as long as people are willing to place bets.
Talking about the UFC, I doubt there could be cases of match fixing as it’s widely watched and scrutinized by everyone. Match fixing may still go on today but perhaps in somewhat unknown leagues and small teams.

About the fight between Jake and Mike, it’s obvious Mike cannot beat Jake. But then again, It’s an exhibition fight.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.
When you mentioned UFC related movie, what came to my mind was "RoadHouse" as I just watched  it recently but unfortunately don't remember story line being this way...care to share the name of this movie  Cool

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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?
All I will say is don't trust these exhibition matches because end result will always shock you!!!
Btw had this match being a real punch for punch boxing 🥊 match Iron Mike would take it any day but parading the Legend this way against clowns like Jake should tell you it's for entertainment purposes and money raising venture!!!

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
It's matches like this that are easy to fix, settle for a draw and all punters lose money with the inner circle benefiting.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
I only place low wagers on fights due to the fact that they could be fixed. I don't think Dana White would allow it and would likely ban a fighter for life if he found out, but I'm sure that it has happened.

Far as Jake Paul and Tyson goes, Tyson would kill him if they were going at it. I am pretty sure they are just doing a glorified sparring match and Jake is supposed to be the winner. It's a joke.
I don't really know much about the UFC rule but base on your reply I can say no sport allow the sports men and women to place bet on themselves though I guess they bet on other games while their relative or friends placing a bet on their game is also not allowed and players caught faces punishment for it, this is from my knowledge from football but I guessed it holds the  same on  every sport
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Unfortunately, you can never know if there is a fraudulent agreement between two players/teams.
It exists and is also very frequent in some regions of the world and minor leagues (so much... that betting is not possible or odds are very low)

if you see something unbalanced well most of the times is pretty clear to see a rigged match.
if you don't have "insider information" the only way to understand the market is to look at the odds and the amounts..
there are several videos that explain how to observe the odds with geektoys / betfair.com
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The UFC is all about business and many fighters utilise this to their own gain by deceiving the spectators and even the organizers of the game. I believe in every game and sports, their are rules which prevents players from cheating. I am curious to know if there are penalties for players who intentionally lose their fights just to deceive the spectators and gain more money. Gamblers who bet on these kinds of games should accept the outcome because they wouldn't  be  complaining if the act of deceit by the fighters  turned out to be in their favour. It is called gambling because it is difficult to predetermine the outcome of a particular game and there is still no guarantee that the fighter we expect to win will be strong enough to fight.

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All these are happening in real life, that's what we called a rigged fight or game. There are rumors about that in any kind of sports, so it's not new at all. As a gambler, we should consider the possibiilty that any game could be rigged, and there's no time for us to comply othewise it will only distract us and we will keep losing, thing we should do here is just bet on the right side by considering all the factors involved, including a possible rigged.

That's the life of a gambler, we never know if a game is rigged or not, but even so, there's still no assurance that the fighter we trusted to win is guaranteed to win, you know, there's this thing called an upset which underdog wins but most of us doesn't bet on underdog.
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It probably happens quite a few times? Mostly in lower-level matches imo. Afaik it's pretty damn rampant during a sort of qualifiers tournament in the China eSports LoL scene, which some current players were discovered to be a part of (I forgot their names, was just a part of some eSports news that I randomly watched). Ofc if caught, it's an instant fee or maybe even permanently banned from said tournaments and other future ones. So yes, it happens, but we can't exactly know if it does until revealed, if even revealed.

I don't expect the famous ones to be participating in it since they already earn much more so I don't think there's any reason or purpose to trying to risk their entire reputation for one match.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?
Maybe, who knows. I am curious why would people bet on an obvious exhibition match like this.

So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.
I believe this is illegal in professional match, the player must not intentionally lose the fight and his relatives must not bet on his match. That's why most casinos ask KYC to prevent from this kind to happen.
Yes, this is illegal and if you are found out to be doing it, you'll most likely get fined and banned for certain amount of time or for life, they could get into a legal battle against the organization where the athlete plays at. that being said, I am not sure if relatives betting on them would have the same punishment as the athlete if they are found out.
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I think it's very likely to happen or may have happened in some fighting competitions or other sports, and I see it as a pretty clever strategy where popularity is secondary and money comes first. Most people would probably prefer a fighter who has a bigger winning potential from his track record so they prefer that fighter to bet on but without them knowing that there is a strategy that is running behind the scenes which is obviously a clever idea about cheating that is very possible in a competition.

But I think this kind of strategy can only be done when you know the fighter or at least you have made an agreement with him behind the scenes about the profit sharing, but on the other hand I think this kind of situation is quite unlikely to happen in some major sports especially if the fighter already has popularity and a very good track record where actions like this can bring down their achievements in the world of sports, I understand that money is everything but building popularity cannot be done with just money.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
This here is just a typical example of proof that there's no certainty in gambling, anything can happen at any time. This even happens in football or soccer sometimes. I'm not saying that teams are being bribed to lose on purpose, no, all I'm saying is that you'll see situations where a very weak team will just come out of no where and beat a stronger team, and this often happens when people do not expect. That's why it's always advisable to bet with an amount you can afford to lose and not going ahead to take a tremendous risk that you know too well would affect your finance immensely or your relationship with someone or people around you, simply because you believe that you're 100% sure the team you're betting on would win. This is too much of a risk to take because nothing is sure in the world of gambling.
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I don't really know if such things can happen on real UFC, it's a game of competition and lot of people and fans are betting on them and really really they want to win so that they can be able to take the cup. I haven't seen  much bigger odds on soccer games and I don't like betting on them very big ones because their possibilities or losing is more bigger than the winning attempts. Most of them can not play well with the ones who's odds is smaller and the odds from any betting sites about a club is totally depends on the performance of the club management and the the players also.
What you experienced can only happened on a boxing games because it's about two people fighting against each other, and one can decide to give up for the other and the other will want to win and get the money.
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This could really be true, we couldn't even know if the fight result is real, I mean if the players are just giving us a show and making it looks like it was a close fight.
It could happen in tournaments or famous athletes, some could pay up or bribe the players to make sure they win.
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Well, the truth is that, these players and athletes have a name to protect, a reputation to build and a career to grow and most times, you ain’t expect them to just throw it away and these is one major reason boxers aren’t allowed to gamble not only on their matches but also in over matches.
I do understand the fact that, rigging and match buying are still going on but I don’t think, it will be on major players like this as both boxers will be fighting passionately to add a feather to their names and not getting bribed over some few thousand.

Most times, what is been acted actually happens in real life, but most times, we should also try as mush as possible to not compare real life experiences with movie scenes.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
Rigged matches have always been a problem, but since the gambling industry has gotten more popular during the last decades, this has in return increased the problem, as now now there is an economic incentive to know the outcome of the match before it takes place, and there have been several infamous cases like that before, which raises the question, if this is what we know then how many matches could have been fixed and we never knew this happened? And unfortunately the reality is that such a number is many times higher than what we may imagine.
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Wouldn't it be cheating if it was proven that one of the fighters who sometimes convinces to win but actually loses in unexpected situations because there is a good bet in terms of profit than the victory is done but sometimes things like this can indeed happen for some cases where we are too blinded by the results that make this kind of setting can happen even though on the other hand not always the winning and favorite fighters will still win in every match because there must be one moment where they can lose.

For the Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson fight, do you believe this fight will be that serious? This is a fight that is full of intrigue from the beginning so we don't need to work hard to bet because the results may not be absolute because from the beginning the purpose of this fight is only for the media not a serious fight so I think for this fight it is better to watch than to bet.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

Mike Tyson is one of the legendary fighter I respected more, if there is any fight I don't think it should be against Jake but what do I know, UFC is now more like entertainment where people are given what they want and not what the fight is really about, I'm not sure if Jake can survive Tyson fist in the first round during his peak but they are fixing the fight to make money from this two individuals and the fact that people knows Tyson world wide will make these game to be more interesting. Some people also think that this fight is just about giving more publicity to Jake since Tyson is legend but will equally make some money as well.

I just hope Tyson doesn't lose this fight to Jake, it will lose its reputation and many wouldn't take them serious again because that's exactly what I'm going to bet onto, Tyson will beat Jake blue black if everything were to be normal. Let's see how "sign the contract" will end.
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The first thing I want to say, it should be noted that films often enlarge or create dramatic narratives for entertainment purposes, to make them more interesting to watch. Meanwhile, when talking about betting on the results of sports matches, including UFC, it is common. However, this betting must be done fairly and transparently, in accordance with applicable rules and regulations. Manipulation of match results, such as the example you give in the film, is illegal and can damage the integrity of the sport.

So it is quite important to always maintain and ensure that the integrity of sports and matches at stake is carried out fairly and transparently. Spectators, gamblers and sports participants need to continue to fight for standards of honesty and fairness in sport.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know?
This is another version of match fixing, and it can be happening under our noses without you having an idea about it.

 Gamblers are at the disadvantage because they never know when these things happen and in a situation where you bet against the house you lose all your money regardless of the statistics that your choice has because even the fighters in this sort of match fixing are very aware. A fighter who is a known loser, may have been loosing and then be fixed to win in a fight where everyone least expects, in these fights, they have the biggest odds, and when they win, the fixers make lots of money as well as those who bet on them, and the fighter.  
Match fixing indeed but just been said by others above that this one cant be totally be applied on big leagues or fights on which the world is watching you and doing such thing would really be raising up tons of questions and would really be raising up some eyebrows and this is where it could be the possibly end line for you once its been proven out. There's no way we could be able to trace it up
that they had bet out on the other side just because they are really that betting up that big. Yes, it do really happens on betting world but knowing it specifically is really that hard to be pointed out.
As long there wouldnt be those kind of solid evidences then the only thing we can do is to assume and its really just that good as that.

We do know that when it comes to probabilities then it could really happen but its unlikely into those sports that been that too big. There would really be those
observing eyes whenever there's something happening which it isnt right.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know?
This is another version of match fixing, and it can be happening under our noses without you having an idea about it.

 Gamblers are at the disadvantage because they never know when these things happen and in a situation where you bet against the house you lose all your money regardless of the statistics that your choice has because even the fighters in this sort of match fixing are very aware. A fighter who is a known loser, may have been loosing and then be fixed to win in a fight where everyone least expects, in these fights, they have the biggest odds, and when they win, the fixers make lots of money as well as those who bet on them, and the fighter.  
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
This is why its called betting and it would really be just that depending on you on whom you would gonna choose for such certain fight. It is really just that cant really be avoided not to think about these probabilities on which it could really actually happen and this is something that will really be leading out into those kind of approach that you would really be thinking about making some counterbets because you've been assuming that this would really be an upset. Tons of times i have witnessed about those upsets in sports on which you couldnt really be able to believe that it did happen on which you could really be basically be able to tell on whose gonna
win on a bright sunny day if we do base up on stats and fighting skills or whatever it is, but it turns out to be a losing one then there's nothing we can do about it.

Intentional loss in bigger leagues or fights is really that hard to be done. Why? the world is watching out and if they have seen something odd then it would really be a huge problem for you as a player/fighter.
They would really be accusing you for it to be intentional.
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

I guess you should check the "Magic City" serial... S1.E6 "The Harder They Fall" to be accurate. It's actually a reverse story, after a mobster spreads a rumor that he made a bet on an underdog many people decide to follow him and bet big on the underdog. Of course, the underdog lost and many people lost a lot of money, a huge profit for mobster bookies. I am sure there are many different "fixes" in one vs one sports games, and even though I am more into "team sports", I think if we get too deep into conspiracy theories it's better to stop betting on sports in general. 
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Staged fight in the world of gambling is something that have been since of old, and even till this moment, it still happens and unfortunately, there seem to be absolutely nothing the ordinary gambler can do about this or such things, if a gambler have a connection with someone who works closely with the organizers of this games or matches, then they can use that to their advantage as such person will always know which fights are staged or rigged, and which are not.

I once have come across a user on telegram who told me had connections with some people who have connection with those who organizes some UFC matches, and the organizers always pass out such information to those in their circle, or matches that they have staged or rigged, and those on that circle now pass out same information to some of their circles as well who are willing to pay them huge sums of money for such information, and the dude on telegram told me that that is how he makes his money from gambling.

So, there is actually such possibility as stated by the op, that some this fighting matches are sometimes rigged, but there is no way the ordinary gamblers can know, expect those with deep pockets who are willing to spend so much to get connected to source that will provide such information to them.
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The world of UFC operates through multiple combinations such as promotion, the fighters contracts, sponsorship revenues and deals, merchandise sales and many many other aspects. Although what you said might be possible, these sport are not based on gambling only.

It is what might be happening in all sports betting and not only UFC, but It is not surprising as we find a lot of manipulation and businesses that take profits behind these sports.  In sports betting and generally in all gambling world, the risk is always present because we put our money on things we're not 100% sure of them working on our behalf, so the right thing to do is to do a lot of researches about anything, understand the odds, and gamble responsibly.
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Whatever happened gambling is risk. Tere are several manipulations and favoring side that occurs in sport general. It does not have to do with boxing alone. In sports or entertainment its necessary we understand that realty is involved, and it should be giving concerns before we choose a side. However, it is most found in fight where we can see the dark side of sports, where the rich manipulate the game to fall in their favor. I have seen cases of fighters throwing fights, often due to financial pressure or threats. And i have seen cases where a fighter is been threatened to lose a fight if not something bad would happen to his family. Many other crazy things happen in fight, so for a gambler like me i stick to football gambling so that i won't find myself in such a scenario like this.

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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
Still happening I guess especially with small tournaments and leagues. But with mainstream matches, this is still possible to happen given that big money is involved. However, we know how risky it is to do so since their names are on the line; if it would be discovered then their careers will be instantly over. Perhaps in this match, Mike sells it. If he'd be bashed for it, his brands being promoted would be also at risk and that is something he should consider since no amount of money will be equal to such things and privileges. It would be totally unfair for bettors especially those who are fans of them. Disappointment would be on the line as well.

There are bettors who has access with fixed matches. Unbelievable how they set aside their conscience given how many people are losing big amount of money on matches they believed of.
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That could happen because we may have often encountered things like that. So it is not surprising that things like that will happen in the future, and we should consider them normal.
You don't need to think much about fixing such matches. If you want to place a bet, place it immediately and wait for the results.
If you win, enjoy the result but if you lose, you don't need to be sad.
It's just a gambling game you often play, so consider it mere entertainment.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?


This is not far from what happens around sporting world and betting on it. We need to remember that there is business under these whole thing and that is the more reason that those who are tipped to win certain times don't get to win but how do you know about it? You will never know except an insider reveals to you.

Real gamblers don't take friendly matches seriously likewise fight put out for shows  The upcoming fight is not a serious match and so anything can happen. Mick Tyson might get a bigger tip to lose the match and so be it, he gets to benefit both sides and that gives him more financial balance. We have to always consider the business in such as it may not be winner takes all.
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We can never ensure that a match is completely free from fixing, this has been a part of it knowingly and sometimes athletes are too involved in it to make more money if they lose than they win but there are also kinds of athletes who play for their pride and never wanted to lose no matter what.

We can't know anything that is why I am putting my money under my fate instead of trusting others.
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What you see in films is very different from real life fights, fighters will always try to maintain their reputation to avoid defeat. In this position, not only money is the main benchmark, prestige, a winning record and the belt that adorns his waist are the most valuable things that money cannot buy.
The fight between Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson was only an exhibition match, meaning whatever the result will not be included in their professional records. Mike Tyson is a great boxer, but now that he has passed his golden age, appearing again in the ring to face Jake Paul is something that should not happen, especially since he is almost 60 years old. What is certain is that this fight will make a lot of money for both of them.
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i think cases like this don't only happen in ufc, but also in other sports, such as football, cricket, etc., where teams/individuals who should win are forced to play less optimally in exchange for a certain amount of money. this is quite an unfortunate action, how sports should be honest and fair, but are polluted by acts of cheating carried out by irresponsible parties.

supposedly something like that wouldn't happen if regulators were strict with their competition, but what happens in the field is usually not like that. often regulators don't really care about this and turn a blind eye.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?
Yes, that is what we name as fixed matches. It's a pretty common phenomeon, especially in minor leagues which don't receive too much attention from public, authorities the media. Coincidentally, I saw today a video on Youtube stating there is going to be an investigation by the politicians in my country to analyze if the national sports industry is fair and legit on its results, of if the games are being fixed. I haven't watched it yet, but I will soon, because there are going to be interesting news which directly impact our bets results.

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
The possibility the favorite team or athlete loses is always present, otherwise, if the results were assured since before the game started, there wouldn't be a reason to gamble at all. When you gamble, you must be aware about the risk the match is going to be fixed. I don't believe there are any guarantees a match isn't going to be fixed, because no one is trusted on this industry, including the regulators who theoretically ensure the legitimacy of the games and their results.
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

Use whatever method and strategy you like while gambling, take any control measures and precautions as you like, as long as it is all about gambling, you only have the two option of winning or losing and the chances for loosing is still more higher than that of winning, the reason why the house edge will always prevail over the gambler because that is how such is been expected to operate by default, this doesn't mean that we cannot win either, but we lose more often than we win each time we are gambling, while your suggestion may work base on the game type we are playing if it's a luck base or skills to determines our chances for winning.
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if the rules and the right gloves are to be used in this match,  i think Mike will lose. the old Mike has almost chronic backpain. In real life, it's not possible to win against someone as huge as Jake who has also KO'd fighters bigger than Mike. you may think Jake is just a problem child of Disney but he is a real big guy who can box. but this is an exhibition where rules are prepared for Mike not to drop dead.

there could be some Mafia in UFC also just like in Boxing but this is almost rare to be seen by the public eye as is done in the situation of Pikey Mickey. but they give some clues though especially in the rival fighters which they know the fight could become a series up to a trilogy.
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
It's still a toss-up and thinking this match would be more reliable than casino games is a trap given they've already secured their fair share of money.

Jake Paul might have the upper hand if we look at the odds, but you never know what the other side plans to do, and to me, it's always possible for Mike Tyson to step up even though there's not much on the line.

I'd rather bet my money on another match and betting on casino games doesn't look any worse.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
I only place low wagers on fights due to the fact that they could be fixed. I don't think Dana White would allow it and would likely ban a fighter for life if he found out, but I'm sure that it has happened.

Far as Jake Paul and Tyson goes, Tyson would kill him if they were going at it. I am pretty sure they are just doing a glorified sparring match and Jake is supposed to be the winner. It's a joke.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?
If it's an exhibition fight, there's a possibility of fixing it because it's all for the show but if it is a real fight and there's something at stake they will have second thoughts about fixing the game because people are watching the fight closely, and if they are caught fixing a real fight then people will not support their coming fights.


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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
They cannot do it in title fights and if it is sanctioned by big organizations they will nullify their license if caught, game fixing is a serious offense and the organizations have observers to see if the fight is not being fixed, it's a big gamble for the part of perpetrators they will lose money, reputation and even go to jail if found guilty.
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Well, that just means it is match-fixing. It's cheating but it's still a win. If it's not a movie, it's liable to criminal charges you know. I think this is not a brilliant idea because it's sometimes obvious. I do remember an NBA player who is unknown but too obvious that he is stat farming or something. He didn't want to rebound because he might add up so early in the game. I forgot the name but I saw it on YouTube.
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Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

It can happen and it is still happening, but the cheater should make the act good for not to make it obvious that he is fixing the game, there is a camera and the experts can easily trace if one of the fighters is just doing acting, and every fight is very important as it will draw you closer to big fights.

That's one of the problems of combat sports and they have a way to trace this if the act is evident they will take out the fighter from their roaster, you can do fixing on small circuits or organizations, but it's hard if it is done in an organization as big as UFC.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

It is here and in every other sport games.You risk such things in sport betting as we have seen odds of 1.07 in tennis losing the game and odds of 1.04 in basketball.This means that most people with power like big bookies will try to alter things as if all odds of lower 1.10 would win their games the bookies would be losing money so these are well known things,some intentional lost games may be the standard in such sports yet it is still much better than playing slot games.
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In big-money sports like the UFC, everyone speculates about manipulated fights. With Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, the stakes are high. However, these are world-class athletes. They arrived without tossing matches.

Sure, corruption is always on your mind. Remember, these fighters are proud. This costs them blood, sweat, and sacrifice. Showcase their tremendous skill. Fans that wager must bet wisely. Do your research on the combatants, form, and sport before betting on rumors.

A modest bet is fine. It excites and engages you. Done responsibly, its more than money. Appreciating the fight, tactics, and athleticism. It demonstrates you're a true fan and participant. wager wisely, wager with your head, and respect these warriors' hustle and heart.
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This is a problem that is being solved by governments, by casinos, by the people who run sports, but there will always be one case and another, and it is difficult to think that there would not be some case. but nowadays with the professionalization of sport, most athletes take their profession very seriously, they know that if they are found playing fixed games, then they will lose everything: they will be fired, they will lose sponsorship contracts, they will lose all respect and admiration that fans have for them, they will lose a lot of money and miss new opportunities. in other words, they will be finished if they are found participating in fixed games. By that I mean the following in this fight between Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, I think people shouldn't be discrediting this fight

I know that in most exhibition fights, the fighters don't take the fight very seriously because they are fights in which in many cases the fighters involved are retired, they are people who haven't fought for a long time, so people quickly start thinking that the fights are fixed. people are quick to think that the end result of the fight was planned before the fight even took place. In my opinion, this fight will be a fight in which both fighters will take the fight seriously, I don't see Mike Tyson putting on an act in this fight, the guy is the type of fighter that many people have already seen him fighting, there are controversies that he involved, I'm talking about fights in real life, so anyone will find out when he puts on an act. That's why I don't think he would be stupid enough to put on an act in this fight. also if he puts on an act in this fight, then he will destroy his reputation
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If someone bet Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson and believe the match will going to serious, they're made mistake. You can't really know which one will win because it's an exhibition match, so I won't be surprised if Jake Paul will win.
Yes just an exhibition and both fighters go home with a ton of money. The only losers are those who will bet on them. At the moment nobody knows who the winner of the match will be awarded to. Yes I said awarded because I like to think that this has already been concluded by the show promoters.

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I believe this is illegal in professional match, the player must not intentionally lose the fight and his relatives must not bet on his match. That's why most casinos ask KYC to prevent from this kind to happen.
I know the first part is true but not the second part of the statement. Will this be akin to match fixing if it is discovered that the fighter's relative bet on the match?
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It can happen in entertainment games but when it comes to professional games I doubt it could happen. Why? I believe there's a clause in their contract about the family and the professional sports player about it. It's forbidden to either bet for yourself or bet for your opponent and that includes their close relatives because what you have seen in the movie could really happen.
That is to prevent these players from either selling the game by losing or point-shaving just to let the other team win.
It's illegal, and if caught, I bet their whole career is in jeopardy so who would want that? Imagine working so hard to be a pro and then wasting all of it with a single bet that won't even suffice to buy an island for yourself or for the future of your kids until your grandkids.
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Money can make a lot of people go against their will. If the strongest fight gives up the fight to a weaker one, it means that the money involved is what he is after and not for respect. I am not surprised that nowadays, people prefer money to respect.

Matches that are been fixed, kills the fun and professionalism of the game, decieving people and extortiing them of their funds in disguise of a bet, which is against the law. I prefer to bet on football matches on big leagues to avoid being a victim to match fixing.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
This doesn't happen only in boxing, most sport are into it, where the big guy looses intentionally and in turn get good money's from the high odds of him losing, in football some years back, juventus FC in Italy where facing some sanctions for match fixing. So they do fix some of this big event, we might not know but if you dig deeper you will find of some cases that where found to be true.

The game between Tyson and Jake, I'm not sure if they will actually let that fight happen, mike Tyson is 57 and Jake Paul is around 27 there is a high level of mismatch with their age difference, which I feel the organizers might not want it to happen however if it does happen then it will not be as aggressive as we would have wanted.
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Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?


Unfortunally, I have the hunch situations like that are very common when comes to fighting, wrestling and boxing, because unlike sports which are played in teams, the outcome of the match or the fight between these two parties are dependant only in the willingness of one of the fighters to continue.
Since money is very effective to corrupt people in all kinds of sports and situations, fighting would not be the exception. Because of this I believe it would be better not to bet in small fighting clubs, events of leagues which could easily be influenced that way, one needs to stick to fighters who are already in a very good economical position (and their family members), so they would not ruin their reputation and statistics for mere money.

Initially, I was going to suggest to investigate whether any of the family members of the fighters had high stakes on the fight, in order to spot this kind of illegal activity, but realistically, the fighters can ask a friend or someone who would not be part of their family circle to place the bets in their place.

Whatever the case, I usually bet on football... Not fighting and this is one of the reasons of it.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
First of all, where is the evidence? or proof that a UFC fighter intended to lose just so he could gain money from his uncle's winning as it bets on his match? At least your OP should put up or provide a link that will support your statement, because otherwise we will treat this as a fake statement or made-up story. Anyway,  let's look up the idea or concept of the statement about a player or team in a sport that can be similar to the statement of the OP. 

A match in sports can be scripted in the sense that an opposing opponent or team will let the other team or opponent win just because there is a big bet going on, so in order to work it out their way or for them to benefit from that, they will follow what is in the expected result, which we know sometimes happens in sports, especially those popular sports leagues.
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This is real, not Hollywood BS. It illuminates one of combat sports' worst problems. Clever? Yes, if you like defrauding and destroying precious things. This whole mess, genuine or not, makes you doubt sports betting's legitimacy

The disrespect is the issue, not whether this happens in the UFC or elsewhere. Fighters live for this. They bleed and strain for what? So some scumbags can rig everything? It insults honest fighters and those who risk money assuming it's a fair contest

Imagine Jake, Tyson, or anyone faking it for money in the ring? This is a crime, not simply sad. It mocks fans, the sport, and fighting with everything you have. That "what-if" is always hanging in the air, so we need solutions. Saving the sport from ruin is more important than one fight
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 I watched something like this too. Although the stronger guy lost deliberately because his opponent begged him to so the latter could still remain fighting since that was the only thing that put food on the table and was also paying bills but in real life I dunno if this kinds of things go on.
There was a time I watched a UFC game, it was intriguing and a bit one sided because the stronger fighter was busy doing his opponent's face in and it was obvious he was the winner but at the start of second round, the very beaten opponent just gave a sharp blow to this guy's jugular and he just fell to the ground! For me it was not really something I'd call heavy( well, how would I know since I'm not on the receiving end, right?) but the fall was a looking a bit premeditated, maybe he agreed to sell the game?  Huh
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?

I'm not sure if there will be gamblers and a lot of them are going to bet on the Tyson vs Jake Paul as it might be rigged, for all we know. And we don't like fights like that, exhibition and just try to milk their fans. Not sure what you watch, but obviously it's a movie and most of the time this is pure fiction Going back to the Tyson vs Jake Paul though, yeah it if rigged then someone will have to make a lot money right? But there are Las Vegas bookies who might look at some disparities in the betting line. And if they see that something is not right and there are big bets to try and manipulate the result, then they might not get their big win because it will be investigated unlike in the movies wherein they are paid right away.
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It surely do happen, many things are fixed in the entertainment world. Name it, football matches, wrestling, boxing, etc. I watched one boxing match that AJ lost to someone I considered a  weaker opponent sometimes ago, I kept researching to convince myself of the reason he lost that match and finally  found out that the loser even had more funds obtainable than the winner. It was obvious that's the reason he lost the match. The money was more important to him.

Even in footballing, you'll see a very weak team defeating a team in great form and the team will be displaying unnecessary errors that prevents them from scoring and you'll be like what's really happening. I think that Tyson match isn't a very serious one and I don't see what they're fighting to achieve. Its obvious they fight for entertainment, so expect any outcome from the match. Myself would not bet on such a match because the possibility that it would be fixed is very high.
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I believe a lot of this happens in all kinds of matches. The fighters are after legacy and money, and there are a lot of dirty games being played off the ring and in the background. That's why there is always some kind of speculation about certain matches being fixed and the result being known. 
 
Since it's illegal for such to be brought to the open, those big players who place a big bet on their person won't allow it to come out to the open, and this can only be possible with a fighter who has mutual agreement with those placing the bet, and the fighter, after calculating the risk, will have nothing to lose. 
 
To the gamblers who place bets on someone who they know, based on skill and strength, is going to win a fight, then all of a sudden the fight goes the opposite way. You just have to accept it that way, and if it repeats itself, the confidence you have in that fighter will reduce. The best thing to do is to avoid placing bets on any of his fights in order not to incur more losses as a result of his reckless decision.
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If someone bet Jake Paul vs Mike Tyson and believe the match will going to serious, they're made mistake. You can't really know which one will win because it's an exhibition match, so I won't be surprised if Jake Paul will win.

So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.
I believe this is illegal in professional match, the player must not intentionally lose the fight and his relatives must not bet on his match. That's why most casinos ask KYC to prevent from this kind to happen.
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So I happened to watch a UFC related movie yesterday and the main character is a very strong one who never loses a fight but during a fight he decided to lose the fight, I found out that he did it intentionally because his uncle and his uncle's friend bet a lot on the biggest odd, which is the other fighter.

He lost the fight and he still made a lot of money from his uncle and his uncle's friend, how brilliant? Since they use a large amount and also on the biggest odd, but I think about the other gamblers who chose to bet on him because there was assurance that he would win the fight.

Now I started to think about the real life UFC, maybe this is even happening underground and we don't know? Jake and Mike Tyson's upcoming fight for example is gearing up, many believe that Mike will win, but maybe something like this will happen?

Many gamblers are placing bets on this fighter since its more reliable than you against the casino games, this is all about agility and skills, but the possibility of intent loss to make more money is also possible in this game, what's your take on this?
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