Topic: Lautauro Martinez for Ballon D’or Vs Vini and others (Read 491 times)

Clubs like Chelsea and Manchester United are in crisis and they need time to resolve their own crises but meanwhile, it affects competitiveness of Premier League representatives in Champions League too. Chelsea shown some good performances in late of past season and if they can continue it in this season, they will return to top four of Premier League and can help the league competitiveness in Champions League in 2025 - 2026 season.

Manchester United did not show any good signal to end their crisis and they have more things to do than Chelsea in a new season.

Manchester City and Arsenal are best representatives of Premier League but Champions League is very competitive and unpredictable. We already saw that Manchester City had to spend a lot of money, many seasons to win their first title. Arsenal are improving themselves but winning Champions League is not easy and to enhance score of the league in European ranking, it needs more clubs from Premier League to do their jobs well in Europa League and Conference League too.

Is that true, am I just dreaming of seeing Lionel Messi enter as the best candidate for the Ballon d'Or, if this year Lionel Messi gets the Ballon d'Or, there will definitely be many questions that come out of my mind, Messi's era is over and there should be no need to include him in the list of the best Ballon d'Or winners this year, and give the opportunity to young players who are currently in their golden age, it makes sense if Vini wins the Ballon d'Or this year, seeing the performance shown during the two seasons with Real Madrid, with the achievements he has achieved, and for Jude Belingham maybe this year is not the time to win the award, next year it might come true,

Oh but look, who cares about individual prizes, we only care about who is the most talked about on social media and on stakeouts.  And anyway, who is Jude Bellingham, a relative of the bell ringer?  Vinicius jnr on the other hand is the latest cry, maybe he takes selfies with the Champions League trophy while eating pizza.  But Martinez, how many things he has won, but you know, in Rome those who win the Golden Balls are always the politicians.

It is very surprising to see Messi in the list of very best candidates for Ballon d'Or this year. It's not surprising to see Jude Bellingham, Vinicius Junior, Lautaro Martinez, Rodri in the list, but Messi is not deserved to appear in the list.

If Messi wins Ballon d'Or this time, it is a big scandal in football because honestly he does not deserve to win it this year. Transition time of Messi - Ronaldo era is coming to ending and now it is beginning of new era with new young star players, Jude, Vini, Yamal and more to compete for Ballon d'Or award.

Messi is a great player but this year, it's better for football if the winner of Ballon d'Or is someone else.

I dunno why I feel really weird towards the selections of players for the ballon D'ors awards.. The era of two rivals has only done more harm than good; creating a huge gap between what was perceived a "complete players", thereby making it impossible to find a record fit for a distinction.

It's like forcefully fitting a square peg in a round hole -- it can never be in shape anymore. Lautauro Martinez - judging from his performances in the copa america, and club/individual awards isn't qualified for the award.

Been the most mentioned or talked about isn't a guarantee you are going to win the title, to think meeting up with all of the requirements is what determines for sure who eventually gets crownes with the ballin di'or, vinicius has got a whole lot ranging from his performance and awards and he's a very young player aswell which I see as an edge, almost same applies to Bellingham.

In your argument that Martinez has got more personal award than any of the nominated players, you have a very valid point but I don't think that's all that is to meeting up to be chosen as the possible winner of the award so away from personal awards he should be sure to meet up other requirements and that will be his edge over others to get the award.

If you look at Premier League clubs currently, it is different from when years back that it use to be the best and strongest league to watch and you can see that in their performance but currently, most of those big clubs like Liverpool, Manchester united and Chelsea have lost their strengths because of some reasons best known to the clubs.

Only Manchester city is keeping to their quality and improving their strength which makes me see that it is only them that can make things happen in European competitions from England, the rest clubs have declined in quality and that is why England clubs are finding it difficult to dominate European competitions currently. Look at the two semifinals in UCL and Europa League non of England clubs was present.

EPL is not competitive anymore and only Arsenal is still keeping to their name as a big club.

I agree with Serie A and La Liga primes but disagree on Premier League prime. The Champions League title of Chelsea, Liverpool and Manchester City recent seasons are not enough to cover bad performances of other clubs from Premier League. Recent seasons, there are surprising rises from Italian clubs and during same time, clubs from Premier League shown their problems.

Premier League have good clubs, rich and strong but they are still have many things to do for dominating Europe.
La Liga had golden era with domination of Barcelona and Real Madrid, it's impressive but it's hard to repeat by Premier League clubs.

Serie A's prime happened in 2002-2006
La Liga's prime happened in 2008-2017
Premier League's prime happened in 2018-2022

Only both La Liga and Premier League teams can survive, Serie A is always like a second tier league if judge based on international match.

Ngl, seeing Messi really not deserved to be in this picture, the medias include him because we know there are many Messi's fans out there, same like Ronaldo. If they both are included in Ballon d'Or candidates, even the chance is almost zero, they will include Messi and Ronaldo on the thumbnail.

This year Ballon d'Or has a majority of young players as candidates, so in my opinion this might make it difficult for correspondents to make their choice because each candidate has quite good achievements and accomplishments in the last 2 seasons, several criteria will be the focus of the player assessment such players as individual and collective performances (winners) throughout the year, player class (talent and fair play) and overall assessment of the player career.
Vinicius may be in the first rank of players who deserve to win the ballon'or after his success in helping Madrid win Champions League and also La Liga, but I personally see that Rodri and Martinez are two players who really deserve to win the Ballon d'or this year, Pedri has succeeded in helping Spain and Manchester City become champions, apart from that his performance has been very consistent with Manchester City and also Spain so far should be an added value for him in the correspondents assessment, as well as Martinez who has had a big role in helping Argentina and also Intermilan this season, we cannot differentiate the quality between one player and another but in terms of assessment of course every aspect and Also, contribution to the team and country will be an important factor in making the player worthy of winning the Ballon d'Or.

BTW, what about Messi current chances, do you think he still has a chance to win the Ballon d'Or the ninth?

I am not sure what date the voting will be closed but if i am not mistaken the nominees will be announce on September 4th and after that the winner of Ballon D’or 2024 will be announce at October 28 and if we see based on the nominees player i think we all know Vinicius is in the first place of the list which very possible he will being an the winner of this award and indeed it might be controversial because Lautaro Martinez or Rodri probably is more deserved than him

If we talking about Ballon D’or winner lists i have to says Laliga players were dominate this award and since 2009 until 2022 the winner of this award is came from the players from Laliga teams which usually from Barcelona or Real Madrid even on 2023 this award goes to Lionel Messi which he is the former player of Barcelona and about Serie A players indeed last time who win Ballon D’or is AC Milan player Ricardo Kaka on 2007 and since that Serie A players were never able to gets the trophy from this award

do you really think that lautaro martinez can win the ballon d'or he will certainly be in the running to win it but now to say that he was incisive in everything seems a bit risky to me, certainly among the top 10 but really there are many who can win the ball I'll leave you with Carlo Ancelotti's statements: Asked about the next Ballon d'Or, then added: "Vinicius Junior of Real Madrid will win the Ballon d'Or, in my opinion. Carvajal also did very well, he won the La Liga, the Champions League and scored in the final, he won the European Championship... but Vinicius is young, he has an excellent reputation, he won the La Liga, he scored in the Champions League in the Final and in the Semi-finals... He scored two goals in Munich, let's not forget that."
surely if Messi was there he would win it ahaha

I really don't know who is going to win the Baloon D'or, but I think that Lautauro Martinez won't win this award.
Serie A isn't what it used to be and the top goal scorer of Serie A isn't respected as the best striker in Europe.
I expect the next Baloon D'or winner to play in La Liga(Real Madrid). Bellingham didn't impress me at all during the Euro 2024, but England reached the final. Vinicius Jr. disappointed in the Brazilian national team and he didn't won Copa America. It's kinda weird for me to finally realize that the "Messi vs. Ronaldo" era is over and the Baloon D'or doesn't have a clear favorite for winning this award.

it would have been a straight win for vini had it been he has good attitude and also played well in the Copa America. While the champions league was on, his overall performance and personality in the game displayed what a top balon d'or contender should possess but his poor performance for his country speaks otherwise. Jude Bellingham on the other hand is just a an over hyped player that gets lucky to score at big stages and even though he's closer to the top on the list of the most likely to win the balon d'or, I feel that rodri deserves it more. Rodri has won Euro 2024, Premier League, Club World Cup & UEFA Super Cup and played a crucial role in all of those trophies. But here is the reality that will me most likely happen, Jude Bellingham will win the balon d'or, it will bring a lot of controversy but it doesn't change the fact that a lot of people have tried to push him up above his level and are rooting for him to get hold of the balon d'or.

Odds shock me. How do Yamal and Willams can be given better odds than Martinez?

They had past good season with their clubs and won Euro 2024 with their national team Spain with good personal contributions for the team and that trophy too. Even their performances and contributions are good, it's not enough to compare with Martinez's performances and it's not fair and correct to say Yamal or Williams played better than Lautaro Martinez in the past season and in this summer at national team level.

If compare and assess the three, I would say that Rodri will never be able to surpass Vinicius or Bellingham as long as these two players are still with Real Madrid, and last season the success of the two Real Madrid players was far above Rodri success.
He will not be strong competitor in the fight for the championship title, in fact I not sure that Rodri assessment in the event to compete for the Ballon d'Or title will be good enough later.
What Rodri got was only limited to success with the club with domestic competitions, he was unable to show good performance in all the competitions he participated in last season.
But one thing that gave Rodri higher assessment was his success in becoming part of the Spanish national team to win Euro 2024, it just that even though he got the title, his performance and contribution were not so satisfying.
I doubt this will be reference for him to be able to compete later.

It doesn't seem so, Martinez is currently at 8th rank, the chance is completely low. I think it's either rank 1-5, Yamal quite deserved because he bring Spain to win EURO, but overall performance Rodri should become the winner.

In that year FIFA can choose correctly the player that deserved to win Ballon d'Or because there have been many years they reward to undeserved players. If FIFA always reward Cristiano Ronaldo to win Ballon d'Or, I believe people will say FIFA is fair.

I agree with you, we believe Rodri, Carvajal, and Toni Kroos performances were outstanding last season, but I do not believe their names belong on the list of players who deserve the world's best award. I was surprised to see Rodri on the list, he was even ranked as the first player who deserves the award, and I was like, for what?! What has he achieved for the previous season that led his name to the list and even ranked the first players? Many supporters believe that Rodri deserves the award because of his contribution to Manchester City last season, they didn't lose any of the games that Rodri played with them, and to me that isn't good enough for him to achieve it. If Manchester City won the Champions League last season, I would not talk, and I would agree that he deserved it.

Vinicuis, on the other hand, many people believe he deserves it due to his impressive performance in the Champions League, no player performed as well as Vinicuis in the Champions League, but according to international records, Vinicuis did not deserve the award because he only scored two goals and they were eliminated in the quarterfinals.

After Argentina won Copa America, and Martinez was the one who scored the winning goal his chances of winning Ballon d'or increased and that was when some persons started checking his achievements last season. He was a great player and contributed towards Inter success, his performance during Copa America was also brilliant.

Jude Bellingham and Vini failed to win their nations cup and that is why you see that they are having a competitor currently. I think Martinez deserves it more than the other two because his performance was consistent in all competitions.

So true! I think the last Ballon D'or where fans where happy was with Luka Modric right ? That was a fair decision in that year but since then , I can't remember fans being happy with who was the winner of Ballon D'or. Lautaro is a true contender but so is Vinicius and so is Rodri and in my opinion, Rodri should win because he was player of Euro 2024 , he had massive influence in his national team + he provided assists. I also won't be surprised if we see Vini Jr to win just because he scored the winning goal of UCL final and he also had one blast season in LaLiga where he scored important goals in important games. 

The Ballon D'or awards always have disputed results. The fans are never happy with the results. I think it's one of the most prestigious awards in the world. And it's normal to have disputes. Lautauro Martinez is having two great seasons at Inter. Not only in his last season but also in the season before that, he had great stats there. But I don't think he has impressed everybody. I don't know if he could have achieved the same stats in another team other than Inter. He achieved good stats as a special part of a special team. But I don't know if he could have achieved the same stats in another challenge. I think for these reasons he will not be a strong candidate for the Ballon D'or.

Rodri had a very fantastic campaign last season by winning the English Premier League title with Manchester City and the European Championship with the Spain national team of which he played a huge part in winning both trophies for his club and country so I perfectly understand why he's been considered as a major contender for the Balon D'or. That being said, I think Vinicius Jr and Jude Bellingham stands better chances of winning the Balon D'or ahead of the Rodri because they had better performances and achievements than Rodri did last season.

Yep the main criteria for Ballon d'Or are not only based on goals and assists only, fair play and Club/national team success are also among the criteria for winning Ballon d'Or.
Even though Messi no longer plays in Europe now, he could win this title again if his performance was very good in the last season because since 2007 every player in the world is eligible to be selected as the candidate to win Ballon d'Or.

The Ballon d'Or definitely between Vinicius Jr, Jude Bellingham and Rodri. These are my favorites to win the Ballon d'Or based on their spectacular performance. Rodri have played major role in the midfield of Manchester City. Pep Guardiola spots the Spaniard to be a very important player for the team and with his presence, Manchester City can dominate and win matches without stress but in his absence, it's really a long day for them I think. The Citizens have best players that are experienced and capable of enacting the smooth running improvement.

If Rodri deserves it more, what about Dani Carvajal? He scored in the Champions League finals against Borrussia Dortmund. He won the UEFA European Champions League Competition, he won the La Liga Competition. He was also amongst the squad that won the European Championship with the Spanish National Football Federation. Are you saying you want to exclude him. I once thought he merited it though, but when you pay to a close stats of other players, I feel like he should come fourth finally.

He won the English Premier League Competition. He won the best player in the European Championship and Europe Championship, I don't think he has a place in the amongst those that won the Ballon d'or.
This shiit should either be given to Vinicius Junior or Lautaro Martinez. They're both hardworking and they're players that have merited it last season.

We'll have to agree ro disagree on that 2021 Lewy defeat to Messi because Lewy has more G/A assist including trophies for that year amongst other stats. But that's just btw. I'm sure Martinez won't stand a chance against the likes of Vini and Bellingham. If there's anybody that can rival them since G/A doesn't seem to be the main criteria for emerging a winner, then Rodri can win it. I'd be glad it either Rodri and Martinez will get to win it. It's going to be a close call though.

The problem of selecting the golden player is there’s no set rule’s and guidelines to the selection and the criteria varies . FIFA need to give us the criterias openly we’re past Ronaldo and Messi era let’s start anew.
Vinicius jnr might be the most exciting player right now accompanied with his goals and assists but achievements of Lautauro Martinez supersedes his .
2021 wasn’t for Lewy Messi had more achievements and individual awards

To tell the truth, I'm favouring Rodri for Ballon d'Or now. Because I believe he deserves the most this time.    People shouldn't look at this prize like the player with most goals or assists wins it. It is a bad way to assess it.

There are already prizes for that like European Golden Shoe and so on. Ballon d'Or has much more different criteria. Especially after winning Euro 2024, I think Rodri is even closer to getting that prize. As for Messi, I don't think he should be given it. It wouldn't be fair. He won the last Copa America, I know but I still don't think he deserves more than Rodri. Messi doesn't even play in Europe anymore.

Id love Rodri but how about Dani Carvajal then? Didn't he win the Champions League Competition, ( Scored a goal during the finals ), Won the La Liga. Won the Euros Competition and also played a huge role in the defense likewise. 

This nominations for this Ballon d'or are crazy and funny for real. I don't want to pick a side but if I'm to do I'd say Vinicius Junior, during the Champions League Competition, he had a great time, assisting and also scoring mandatory goals for Real Madrid. It's fingers crossed right now, let the best man be voted in between.

Lautaro Martinez stats are damn impressive, I didn't take a look at him until two days ago when having a chat with my pal about the Ballon d'or.

Indeed, Lautaro Martinez is player who has scored lot of goals for his team and has several individual awards, but basically the assessment to get the Ballon d'Or is not only that but there are several other factors that are determining factors.
It just that for the real assessment, no one knows, even that is secret in my opinion, if there are players who have been truly selected, it will only be published and announced when the event is officially held because everything is secret.

For now, only Bellingham and Vinicius Jr are the most potential players to get it, but there are other names like Mbappe who are also favorites of some people, they are young players who have created new era in European football.
Lately, Bellingham performance has also been highlighted quite impressively in helping England reach the Euro 2024 final, but that will not guarantee whether he will be selected.
In my opinion, only those two players are worthy, whether it Bellingham or Vinicius, they are still two great young Real Madrid players who has won various titles during his career in European football.

These players have balancing achievements with their clubs by winning domestic titles (domestic league, domestic super cup) but Lautaro did not win Champions League, while Vinicius and Jude Bellingham won Champions League with Real Madrid. To cover this disadvantage at club level, Lautaro won Coppa America title with his national team while Vinicius and Jude Bellingham failed with their national teams in Coppa America and Euro 2024.

At international level, Lautaro looks better but Judge went to a final match in Euro 2024 with England and only failed against Spain. Between Vinicius Junior and Jude Bellingham, I see Jude is a better competitor against Lautaro for Ballon d'Or this year.

I so much like it as it's hard to even predict who's going to be the winner for the Ballon D'or, players have proven to be the best and non can easily say is going to be from the EPL, la Liga, Ligue 1, Bundesliga, Serie A etc. But definitely we are sure to have a winner, according to this past event (Euros) player like Rodri said this is the time for a Spanish player to win the Ballon D'or and I buy the idea too because they have been one of the best and going out to play 7 games without any defeat is something they need to look out for and their performance was out of this World, non expected it from them because the way and manner they went about business in that competition has been great with them giving the fans every single moment to believe and have a 100% confidence in them.
With that been said I think if they're handing the award it should be from the Spanish side or maybe give it to Rodri because he has been a better player both club and country, he's also the main reason City have their first champions league title and some other trophies including the Euros, I'd say Rodri deserve the award and I think you guys would agree with me on that.

Sometimes it is the popularity that matters among its fans. It is not about the number of goals or trophies that a player is holding under his belt. It is the charisma so to speak. Also, we don't know the criteria of the judges these days. It can be the combination of  -
> their individual performance (career success)
> impressive on-field performances that people are talking about
> their role in the team, any significant contribution of the athlete
> fair play
Which translates that it is not about the number of goals or trophies but the overall performance of this individual as an athlete of the sports. It is like they are looking for the best role model of this sports.

Well he is the most consistent scorer in Serie A and in the last 60 or 65 years there were only 5 players to have scored 20 or more goals in three consecutive seasons in Serie A and one of them is Lautauro with different strike partner every year which proves he can play with anybody, also to mentioned he finished Capocannoniere. But the most sensational about him being the top league's scorer, is he also the forward with the most interceptions also his teamplay is also off the charts he hounds the defenders off the counter-press and takes the pressure off and assure the other nine field players.


For me Lautauro is a complete package of a player but these awards also have Recency Bias, Popularity and such. I would say they count World Cup over Copa America.

The hype! Bellingham is being overrated and, that's not just gonna sit well for him at the end... I don't know why please think FIFA has been corruptible for years now with just one player.... Messi gave football an essence, and over his first 7 years of his Career, having him at 25, he won 4 ballon d'ors and that has been the highest so far for an average player at that age.
We've had players that were complete - even more than what any complete player in football should be... Pedro! Was he able to win the best player? No! Why's that? FIFA doesn't really focus on a player's achievement alone; your ability to create Chances and score unimaginable goals is part of their analysis as well.

On 2021 there was a debatable about who is Ballon D’or winner because at that time Messi with PSG can being an the winner and some of people has give their opinion about this because on that year Messi performance is not really good with PSG so he didn't deserved to gets Ballon D’or because if the benchmark is individual achievement or club achievement people said Lewandowski is more deserved to gets that award rather than Messi which at that time Lewandowski can being an Bundesliga top scorer and can gets Bundesliga trophy with Bayern Munich

And this year too probably the winner of Ballon D’or could be very controversial because if we see from the achievement Lautaro Martinez is more deserved to gets this award rather than Vinicius but recently i have seen the lists of the winner candidates of this year and Rodri can replace Vinicius position on first place and if this position not change until October means Rodri will being an the winner of this year

The Ballon D'or winner is usually a striker who scores a lot of goals and assists, Rodri is a midfielder and his total goals and assists are still far less than Vini, Bellingham and Martinez.
Actually, Rodri really deserves to win the Ballon D'or, but it looks like the journalists and the coaches + captains of the national teams will choose Bellingham even though England failed to win the Euro - If Bellingham doesn't win it, Martinez will definitely win the Ballon D'or this year.

There's no doubt to the fact that the winner of this year's ballon d'Or will be decided by the performance of the players that has been shortlisted in their various clubs last season but the truth is that we currently do not know who is going to win as the votes are yet to be casted. Again the ballon D'or winner this year isn't yet decided because some of the performance of players in the new in the first few months of the new season will also determine if they can win the ballon D'or or not. That being said I think the players still have much more more work to do another to be winner.
Vinicius Jr had a very impressive season with Real where he helped the club to win the Spanish La Liga as well as the UEFA Champions League title which he finished as the best player of the tournament while Lautaro Martinez was able to win the Italian Serie A as well as the Copa America with his national team. Lautaro Martinez I think is a good candidate for the Balon D'or but not on the same level with Vinicius Jr who I think was clearly better

It doesn't matter what we think or discuss here. I want to believe the winner is already known to inner circles. Players like Vini and Bellingham are just for the PR. Looking at the stats, Vini abd Bellingham don't come close at all. If Bellingham won the Euro 2024, he would've been placed ahead of Vini. If people won by merits, Lewandowski would have won it in 2021 ahead of Messi despite having more goal/assist tally. That's why I want to believe that Martinez won't win it this year.

I won't be surprised if he is not even nominated for the Ballon D Or awards. Because this is not the first time someone who deserves this award was denied it. There were many players who would have won it but were denied of it in the past because of the fan's dominance of Messi and Ronaldo hype. It's just feeling this day it is based on hype because certainly when it comes to qualification Lautaro Matinez is the qualified candidate for this award. But the hypes and fame of Jude Bellingham and Vinicius have overshadowed his light. At the end of the day, i see no offense if Vinicius was given the awards but Jude I think he is not worth it at least not yet.

Who will be named the Golden Ball in 2024, perhaps a question that is difficult to answer immediately for many world football fans. Euro and Copa America take place at the same time with many exciting competitions and many surprises. However, competing for the Golden Ball is never easy. Lautaro Martinez will have to face strong opponents like Vinicius, Rodri, or Bellingham.
If talking about Rodri with the Euro 2024 Championship, Lautaro Martinez of Argentina is also a bright candidate for the Golden Ball. Martinez had the most successful season of his career to date, winning the Serie A Championship with Inter Milan and the Copa America Championship with Argentina. In the individual category, Martinez won the title of Serie A top scorer and was the best player of the tournament. This striker also won the Copa America top scorer title. So with the titles he has won, Lautaro Martinez deserves to win the award but to be honored he needs a lot of luck.

If the Copa America and Euro 2024 are considerable factors, then I think Lautaro Martinez might have a shot at it too, for Vini and Bellingham, their chances are rather more dim now with Rodri also having had a special season, he wasn't bad in the PL this season and despite not making the finals of the Champions and winning it like Vini and Bellingham, I think his standout performance in the Euro would have place right on the same level with the supposed favorites, Vini and Brazil were way below par in the Copa America so, it really is going to be a very close margin now.

I think it might be Vinicius Jr but a name not mentioned in the OP is Rodri of Man City. He won the PL title and was player of the tournament with Spain winning Euro 2024.

It’s much tougher now since the step down from peak CR7 and Messi is huge.

It is the first time hearing Lautaro Martinez in this debate for Ballo D'Or, and I do not think he comes close or should even be a candidate for it. He has not been as influential for his team as Vini Jr or even Bellingham was for Real Madrid, and even though he finished the season as highest goal scorer or some other record. It still does not qualify him for it. Picking Lautaro Martinez is like picking Alvarez or some other random person for the award. It is Vini's year, he should have it.

It's hard to say who deserves Ballon D'or this year because when it was Messi's and Cristiano's era, it was easy to predict, both of them were phenomenal players with phenomenal statistics. I think we don't have footballer as magical and competitive as Messi for example and because of that, these days people mostly support their favorite players. There is not a clear best football player in the world right now, individual performances sucks today.

I personally like Lautaro Martinez very much, he also scored an important goal in the Copa America finale but I think that Rodri will get the Ballon D'or. I think Vinicius doesn't deserve it.

Lautauro is not a push off or push by fans. The man deserves it, his achievements and statistics is there to prove it. He had a very outstanding season both National and club wise.
For me he’s the BEST candidate for the Ballon D’or.

I disagree with anyone who thinks Rodri or Cavajal to be the ballon Dior, Vinicius, Bellingham and Lautauro should be the favorite players to win the award, these players deserve the award because they turn up for their team when the team wants to win, Vinicius and Bellingham have made Real Madrid not to miss Benzema because, from the beginning of the season, people think that Real Madrid can not win any trophy because they don’t have a striker but the players turn and make sure they played for the team and make their fans happy, even Toni Kroos deserves the award because he is among the best player that makes the young players in Real Madrid win the league.

I was very disappointed to see Rodri at the top of the Ballon Dior top five, can anyone tell me what Rodri has achieved this season, Rodri played for Manchester City and Manchester City won only the premier league trophy and they got knockout by Real Madrid in the champion league round of 16 and he played for Spain and won the Euros with them and they gave him the best player of the tournament that he did not deserve, Rodri didn’t deserve the best player of the tournament for Spain, those players who deserve it are Dani Olmo and Fabian Ruiz because they were very much better than Rodri in this tournament, If Rodri win this season ballon Dior that means the player performance for a team means nothing.

Any other name aside  Vini, Jude Bellingham is just a push by their fans to force us to believe that they are deserving of this award. And in my estimation it is ridiculous. These players have had brilliant records from the last season. And Lautauro Martinez, is also a top contender for this award...his records are damm impressive from being a Scudetto winner to Copa to top scorer. And I agree with everyone who says his name also should be in the list. I disagree with anyone who will want Toni Kroos, Rodri or Carvajal to be in the list with the earlier mentioned names. While they are fantastic players, their records are not as brilliant as the ones I mentioned.

Lautauro Martinez was serie A best player and highest goal scorer last season.
He Won the Italian Super Cup
Won the Serie A
Won Copa America and was the highest goal scorer.
He has more individual award than Vinicius jnr or any other player on the list and also has some good trophies.
Based on the criteria for ballon D’or as the overall golden ball he’s the best candidate but sadly he’s not been talked about enough.

Please what has Vinicius jnr or Jude Bellingham got over him (if you say UCL he has National Trophy)
Vinicius and Jude Bellingham both have
1.La Liga
2.UEFA Champions League
3.Super cup
I don’t think any of them have any individual awards, so why are they the most talked about.