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Quote from: Peanutswar on December 28, 2021, 11:05:45 AM

If here on the forum it's open for everyone just keep asking there's nothing wrong with that you want yourself to educate and also others who don't know. Find your strategy or just use others as a guide.

So lucky you newbies who have good people on this forum willing to help out for free. Of course this is done with effort, if you are willing to read and ask. So be diligent to read because this forum provides all the complete discussion. In the end of course I agree with you, finding the most comfortable strategy for you is the best thing. That you can do if you have tried and tasted it.

Exactly!.So many person's share their experiences here so that the newbies can learn from it,so if you are new in this forum,always know that the primary thing you are to do is to read,research,and re-strategise.These three things will help you become a better version of yourself.
Sometimes you must not wait untill you make the mistake yourself,learn from the lessons and experience people share here and improve on yourself.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on December 28, 2021, 11:05:45 AM

If here on the forum it's open for everyone just keep asking there's nothing wrong with that you want yourself to educate and also others who don't know. Find your strategy or just use others as a guide.

So lucky you newbies who have good people on this forum willing to help out for free. Of course this is done with effort, if you are willing to read and ask. So be diligent to read because this forum provides all the complete discussion. In the end of course I agree with you, finding the most comfortable strategy for you is the best thing. That you can do if you have tried and tasted it.

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It depends on the way or pace of the investors or the newbie because some of them make their way still it's better there's proper guidance with the higher knowledge person. Having a mentor or a guide might prevent you to take too much loss and wrong decision making they are just a guide but at the end of the decision it's all about the member. If here on the forum it's open for everyone just keep asking there's nothing wrong with that you want yourself to educate and also others who don't know. Find your strategy or just use others as a guide.

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It's always hard to persevere out of diverse experiences from other people but it's best to understand that some mistakes are, and cannot be corrected.
If you, maybe because of your negligence at the rules of the forum plagiarise, there MIGHT still be a second chance for you but the are many more costly mistakes you shouldn't make that could possibly cost your "life" back to the context...
You said newbies shouldn't learn from their mistakes, how do you expect that? Mistakes aren't done purposefully and FOR THE REASON THAT NO ONE IS PERFECT, MISTAKES CAN'T BE EVADED.! What you understand at just a glance might be the same thing that took another person 6months to get it right, facts! Not because he/she was dumb but maybe he couldn't comprehend it at that point...
a quote says," no one is perfect" when any one makes a mistake, he/she isn't learning from it towards imperfection but perfection instead....

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

Growing up i was thought how to learn from peoples experience (mistake) because sometimes learning from personal mistake can be like a mark that one won't be able to forget and it could be to late to correct some mistake. When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules that if anyone takes for granted that person maybe penalized in respective of rank or position.
I believe times without number some top members have made little mistakes that is against the forum rules and they served the consequences. It will be too bad if will keep on falling fall little mistakes. New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

Great words of advice for not only -Newbies- but everyone many people has felt the hard rock fall of the penalty to mistakes they make, but one way to learn from others mistakes is to always be active on the forum, check different boards read threads see when people are criticized, see when people are commended (you can also learn from people success) find out time for your forum knowledge progress and I think you would be on a safe side.

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If I understood correctly what I just read, OP'S trying to say that the best way to learn from mistakes Is to learn from others, if that's it then am in partial disagreement with the post.

It's very okay to learn from mistakes, I mean it gives you a better opportunity and clearer knowledge for the next trial but in a case where your own mistakes are totally ignored because you're trying to copy from other people's experience, then the learning process can't be right.
If you intend to make your growth process a proper one, it's necessary you spice it up with both experiences you get from your mistakes and that of others, that's a better way to learn.
You can't be living another person's life in it's because you intend living rightly..
A little spice here and there makes our soup sweeter same with life.

In summary I'd say, spice up your life by learning from the best and when you try and fail, do not just stand and dust your self, try to look down at what pushed you down so that in your next step, you'll totally avoid taking that route to avoid falling again.

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Yes, need to take other's experience as a serious note and use them in our lives. Its really must. But often, though we might have heard the best advice, we will certainly try to experience the same. Experimenting new things is always not stoppable. In trading, we hear that patience is the key to success but when we are new to the same, we come to understand the importance of it when we practically undergo losses for a rush trades. Then we tend to realize what was said is right. But time and money is gone. So, its indeed the right thing to accept things said by experiences.

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Quote from: dbc23 on November 04, 2021, 08:49:32 AM

Getting to learn from others experience means reading and constantly reading so that falling into the same mistake that cost an individual to lose an account would not be repeated. As far the forum is concerned mistakes are inevitable because most people are just too desperate to make progress without considering the price needed to be payed to get it. There is actually no short cut to this process learn and watch the earning come in too easy

People's experiences are like directions, we look at it and learn from it. It doesn't make sense to take others mistakes for granted, learning from others experience it's called a wisdom. A wise man wouldn't like to follow a he already knows will take him backward. Learning from others experience is profitable to one.

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Getting to learn from others experience means reading and constantly reading so that falling into the same mistake that cost an individual to lose an account would not be repeated. As far the forum is concerned mistakes are inevitable because most people are just too desperate to make progress without considering the price needed to be payed to get it. There is actually no short cut to this process learn and watch the earning come in too easy

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Quote from: Heromember09 on October 27, 2021, 01:06:08 PM

I really agree with you as a newbie i learn something in this forum that in respective your rank once you do what is against the rule and regulations of this platform you must deserve your punishment. Sometimes i read some topic in this forum without making comments to add some knowledge to my understanding including people comments to avoid making a mistake in future.

Not all newbie members on this forum are really new and inexperienced members, and some of them run crypto companies and can say a lot about crypto.
Even newbie members who are really new to crypto can sometimes share some new and useful information with the forum community.
You don’t need to be afraid to participate in discussions and say your opinion, there’s nothing wrong with that.
Of course, certain rules should always be respected, but all forum members, regardless of their forum rank, should respect each other.

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Quote from: sherenikaw on September 27, 2021, 05:24:55 PM

there are many members in this forum and surely there is a lot of experience here too. It is true that we can learn from the experiences of others. a failure should not continue to be lamented but we must get up and learn from that failure. beside that, we can deepen our knowledge in this forum.

The best thing a good forum user should do is to observe the system of the community at first, secondly looking at errors or mistakes of someone will elevate or contribute for positive impact of another, anyone that says that we don't learn through experience or someone mistakes that means the person is not ready to learn from my perspective or observation, actually everybody is intending to embrace a good thing not a bad way of life, we are meant to emulate a positive things.

I believe that reading the unofficial rules will help people understand what is good and wrong on the community, and that mistakes like posting absurd statements are already frequent and should be avoided. They should approach the forum with respect, where people are truly open to talks and every word you make adds value to the discussion. Mistakes can't be avoided, but you can ensure that you won't do the same mistake twice and that the bare minimum acts are carried out. Let's strive for betterment.

See i was taught in school that mistake will make you to realise your wrong performance or attitude, actually no one is encyclopedias of knowledge, but I'm stipulating or embracing a consistent mistake of any user, from correction we learn and understand our fault, in normal since everyone is meant to scrutinized or assess he / her work before posting, because every post made here is representing the images of the person (user) till infinity, unless the user come to edit the work.

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Growing up, I do hear the saying, 'experience is the best teacher '. I don't know if you guys are actually familiar with this saying but then, as much as it is true, there is also a window for you to learn from other persons experience. There are some things you might experience and might not be able to tell the tale.
In essence, not every is to be experienced by an individual. Source for information, ask questions when confused, don't just see a window of opportunity and dive in. Always seek professional advice on whatever before subscribing to a strange idea. It could save you in the long run.

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I really agree with you as a newbie i learn something in this forum that in respective your rank once you do what is against the rule and regulations of this platform you must deserve your punishment. Sometimes i read some topic in this forum without making comments to add some knowledge to my understanding including people comments to avoid making a mistake in future.

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Quote from: Piggymonster on October 25, 2021, 11:26:04 PM

Quote from: ifarted on October 25, 2021, 03:38:30 AM

There is no need to repeat my answer, one respond is enough to make you understand.

You are talking about self reliance when our discussion is about learning from other's experience. That is my point I want impart with you. Yes I understand what you mean, I just wanted to reiterate that learning from other's mistake is way better than having to go through the bitterness of punishment and regrets before you can learn a lesson. Cheers! Wink

Self reliance or not, the topic points at which you learn from whether your mistakes or from others mistakes. Both are okay and fine and like i said there is nothing wrong in relying sometimes on yourself too. You think that learning from others mistake is way better than having to go through bitterness experiences but in own perspective learning from your mistakes is also good because it can make you stronger, you'll learn and discover more about yourself. Through all that bitterness of punishment, you'll learn how to handle it yourself and find a solution everytime you encountered a problem and it is good because you can grow.

I know that they are different but through all that it is still the same, the point is the same which you learn from mistakes. So i do not think that your ideas are wrong neither mine because both of us has a point.

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Quote from: ifarted on October 25, 2021, 03:38:30 AM

There is no need to repeat my answer, one respond is enough to make you understand.

You are talking about self reliance when our discussion is about learning from other's experience. That is my point I want impart with you. Yes I understand what you mean, I just wanted to reiterate that learning from other's mistake is way better than having to go through the bitterness of punishment and regrets before you can learn a lesson. Cheers! Wink

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Quote from: ifarted on October 20, 2021, 10:20:55 AM

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Quote from: Piggymonster on October 25, 2021, 03:14:52 AM

But if you simply acknowledging your own mistake and carry on as before, your still in danger of repeating the same mistake again. Put those lessons into practice and careful with your choices, read again and again the rules and follow it by heart.

We are not perfect, most of us are prone to making mistakes all over again but let me tell you one thing. If a person repeats the same mistakes that means he/she didn't learn from his/her mistakes. You see, that's the point there. You are not in danger of repeating the same mistakes if you acknowledge and learn from your own mistakes. That doesn't happen unless you had taken your mistakes for granted. If you keep making the same mistakes and you learn from them but then make another mistake that is another thing called stupidity because you are aware what will happen but still did it anyway.

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Quote from: Piggymonster on October 25, 2021, 03:14:52 AM

Yes, I agree that you can learn the most from your own mistakes, it can give you the required experience and the intense feeling of regret that you will never ever do it again. But is it much wiser by learning from the others than suffer the consequences of committing those mistakes? Why wait for yourself to stumble than watching the other so you can make careful choices?

There is no need to repeat my answer, one respond is enough to make you understand.

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Quote from: sherenikaw on September 27, 2021, 05:24:55 PM

there are many members in this forum and surely there is a lot of experience here too. It is true that we can learn from the experiences of others. a failure should not continue to be lamented but we must get up and learn from that failure. beside that, we can deepen our knowledge in this forum.

The best thing a good forum user should do is to observe the system of the community at first, secondly looking at errors or mistakes of someone will elevate or contribute for positive impact of another, anyone that says that we don't learn through experience or someone mistakes that means the person is not ready to learn from my perspective or observation, actually everybody is intending to embrace a good thing not a bad way of life, we are meant to emulate a positive things.

I believe that reading the unofficial rules will help people understand what is good and wrong on the community, and that mistakes like posting absurd statements are already frequent and should be avoided. They should approach the forum with respect, where people are truly open to talks and every word you make adds value to the discussion. Mistakes can't be avoided, but you can ensure that you won't do the same mistake twice and that the bare minimum acts are carried out. Let's strive for betterment.

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Quote from: ifarted on October 20, 2021, 10:20:55 AM

It's common sense, everybody knows that you cannot learn if you don't admit and own your mistakes. It's very basic actually. Nobody learns when they don't even acknowledge their own mistakes.

But if you simply acknowledging your own mistake and carry on as before, your still in danger of repeating the same mistake again. Put those lessons into practice and careful with your choices, read again and again the rules and follow it by heart.

Quote from: ifarted on October 20, 2021, 10:20:55 AM

Yes, you can learn faster but not all people has the ability to listen and remember the advices from someone who committed mistakes. Some has been taking it for granted. What's the purpose of learning faster from others mistakes if you don't even know how to admit your own mistakes and learn from them? We need experience to understand. You can't always rely on others because they are not always there for you when you need advices. You need to learn to stand up on your own feet without anyone's help because they cannot help you all the time and i also wanted to add that there is nothing wrong in relying on yourself.

Yes, I agree that you can learn the most from your own mistakes, it can give you the required experience and the intense feeling of regret that you will never ever do it again. But is it much wiser by learning from the others than suffer the consequences of committing those mistakes? Why wait for yourself to stumble than watching the other so you can make careful choices?

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Quote from: Luffygroove on October 20, 2021, 11:02:01 PM

I have made one stupid mistake because of the greediness which is joining an airdrop or giveaway thread. I was momentarily banned for 7 days. I've learned so hard and I don't want to repeat it again. I've lost a chance to join great bounties because of that mistake. Sadly, some people make a bigger mistake by making alternative accounts. I just want to say that people should really read the rules. They're trying to overcome a mistake by doing another mistake. You can be banned permanently if you make the secondary accounts after that ban, that's why it's better to wait patiently and read the rules while in the punishment period. I hope people read this and learn from my mistake. Cheers.

At least that mistake turns into a valuable life lesson and makes you wiser. A mistake cannot be corrected by doing another mistake. Everybody deserves a second chance and this time you know better. This will also be serve as a warning or guide to us members to not give in with our greed and make better choices.

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I have made one stupid mistake because of the greediness which is joining an airdrop or giveaway thread. I was momentarily banned for 7 days. I've learned so hard and I don't want to repeat it again. I've lost a chance to join great bounties because of that mistake. Sadly, some people make a bigger mistake by making alternative accounts. I just want to say that people should really read the rules. They're trying to overcome a mistake by doing another mistake. You can be banned permanently if you make the secondary accounts after that ban, that's why it's better to wait patiently and read the rules while in the punishment period. I hope people read this and learn from my mistake. Cheers.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 07, 2021, 06:24:08 PM

They say experience is the best teacher,but nowadays,people no longer get experience as their best teacher,because the experience that they got might be so bad not to be able to teach anymore,but to have lifetime regret over something.

Buddy, experience is still the best teacher, not minding what the turn out of the event was, you'll still learn more effectively when you're the one experiencing the situation but that doesn't mean you should always put yourself at risk of always been hurt just to learn.

If the lesson are terrible, you just have to learn how to see the best in every situation as there's always something to learn that'll be of help to you tomorrow. The lifetime regret are also a lesson that won't be forgetten easily, you just don't have to let the situation win because your getting defeated means exactly that.

The bitter truth is that not everyone is ready to learn from them mistakes and lesson just too recalcitrant and adamant to learn....it's cool because they'll or they mostly find themselves in a bastardized and detrimental situations.

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Quote from: ifarted on October 14, 2021, 02:10:35 AM

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Quote from: Piggymonster on October 19, 2021, 11:28:21 PM

It is inevitable that we can make mistakes, no one is immune to it as we are all human and we are not perfect. But you can't learn anything from a mistake until you admit it, own it and fix it.

It's common sense, everybody knows that you cannot learn if you don't admit and own your mistakes. It's very basic actually. Nobody learns when they don't even acknowledge their own mistakes.

Quote from: Piggymonster on October 19, 2021, 11:28:21 PM

But why solely rely on your own mistakes to learn where you can learn faster through the mistakes committed by others?

Yes, you can learn faster but not all people has the ability to listen and remember the advices from someone who commited mistakes. Some has been taking it for granted. What's the purpose of learning faster from others mistakes if you don't even know how to admit your own mistakes and learn from them? We need experience to understand. You can't always rely on others because they are not always there for you when you need advices. You need to learn to stand up on your own feet without anyones help because they cannot help you all the time and i also wanted to add that there is nothing wrong in relying on yourself.

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Quote from: ifarted on October 14, 2021, 02:10:35 AM

Learning from your mistakes can improve your self development. Your mistakes can guide you from what you should do and what not. Here in the forum, if you don't read the rules, you'll probably fail. There are a lot of newbies who failed.

Most users whom had their account permanently banned is the cause of plagiarism. Newbies, who are not knowledgeable is easily caught by plagiarism. I understand them because they are new but still, they should have ask someone who had experience that can help them. Some who are caught by plagiarism are seniors, those who achieved high rank who purposely did it because they are lazy.

Bitcoin has a lot of opportunities just for you, so even if you got banned, you can always create another and make your mistakes as a lesson to avoid being banned again.

Newbies should read the rules before posting.

It is inevitable that we can make mistakes, no one is immune to it as we are all human and we are not perfect. But you can't learn anything from a mistake until you admit it, own it and fix it. But why solely rely on your own mistakes to learn where you can learn faster through the mistakes committed by others? Also, mistakes and failures are not the same thing, mistakes can still be corrected and fix while failure is the end result of all the mistakes you keep on doing, yet you can't fix it but you can start over and move on and get valuable wisdom from it.

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You are very right experience is the best tutor who can teach or tell about trading. we can't do without others experience and if we don't learn from others people experience we can't benefits better in trading and we may likely give up . Learning from others experience will pattern the next step and next phase from mistakes.

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Learning from your mistakes can improve your self development. Your mistakes can guide you from what you should do and what not. Here in the forum, if you don't read the rules, you'll probably fail. There are a lot of newbies who failed.

Most users whom had their account permanently banned is the cause of plagiarism. Newbies, who are not knowledgeable is easily caught by plagiarism. I understand them because they are new but still, they should have ask someone who had experience that can help them. Some who are caught by plagiarism are seniors, those who achieved high rank who purposely did it because they are lazy.

Bitcoin has a lot of opportunities just for you, so even if you got banned, you can always create another and make your mistakes as a lesson to avoid being banned again.

Newbies should read the rules before posting.

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Correct. Other people’s experiences and suggestions can be highly beneficial when it comes to trading. You will learn what their mistakes were which will allow you to understand what not to do. You can also see what helped them succeed and it would help you in understanding what you can do. Otherwise, your own knowledge and skills matter the most.

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Quote from: Evgenklm on September 28, 2021, 02:11:05 PM

If we take into account the new participants of the forum, then it will not work without mistakes, because many rules are not read and are affected by this, so I think you need to be a little lenient to newcomers . Everyone makes mistakes and no one is immune from this.

I agree with you on this one.Its newbies that makes a lot of mistakes in the forum,which might result them been banned from the forum or not.We should know that if there is no mistakes,there won't be any corrections.
Mistakes must be there for corrections to be made,and for people to learn from it. It is after making such mistakes that one has experience in that field and should be able to tell somebody how it feels like to be a victim of that kind of mistakes.
Learning from people's mistake is what is expected of anybody in the forum,we must not wait for us to be victims before learning.And also telling people that are experience to teach how to grow in the forum is necessity.

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Quote from: sherenikaw on September 27, 2021, 05:24:55 PM

there are many members in this forum and surely there is a lot of experience here too. It is true that we can learn from the experiences of others. a failure should not continue to be lamented but we must get up and learn from that failure. beside that, we can deepen our knowledge in this forum.

The best thing a good forum user should do is to observe the system of the community at first, secondly looking at errors or mistakes of someone will elevate or contribute for positive impact of another, anyone that says that we don't learn through experience or someone mistakes that means the person is not ready to learn from my perspective or observation, actually everybody is intending to embrace a good thing not a bad way of life, we are meant to emulate a positive things.

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If we take into account the new participants of the forum, then it will not work without mistakes, because many rules are not read and are affected by this, so I think you need to be a little lenient to newcomers . Everyone makes mistakes and no one is immune from this.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

Growing up i was thought how to learn from peoples experience (mistake) because sometimes learning from personal mistake can be like a mark that one won't be able to forget and it could be to late to correct some mistake. When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules that if anyone takes for granted that person maybe penalized in respective of rank or position.
I believe times without number some top members have made little mistakes that is against the forum rules and they served the consequences. It will be too bad if will keep on falling fall little mistakes. New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

sadly I wasn't taught to learn from other people's mistakes, I had to learn that on my own and I think a lot of did the same, you see other people getting punished for their acts and you learn nothing from that, you're being blinded, learning from your own mistakes happens to unintentionally of course since it's a mistake, you have to learn how to deal with it and how to prevent it from happening again.

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Quote from: sherenikaw on September 27, 2021, 05:24:55 PM

there are many members in this forum and surely there is a lot of experience here too. It is true that we can learn from the experiences of others. a failure should not continue to be lamented but we must get up and learn from that failure. beside that, we can deepen our knowledge in this forum. there is a lot of information here that can't be found anywhere because most of it here is based on personal experience. keep growing and multiply information about crypto so that we can follow this crypto flow. investing in crypto requires a lot of effort and patience so don't give up easily with one failure.

This is very true, this forum is like a hidden gem waiting to be uncovered by those who are sincere in venturing in crypto. Honestly, this forum have helped me in a lot of ways, from choosing the best wallet, better crypto exchange or bette gambling sites to use. With the feedback from the community, we can always make a better decision for ourselves and avoid possible scam that can screw us. Also, one good section to check out also is the scam accusations board as you can see potential scam or ongoing scams. In that way, you can avoid being victimized by these people.

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there are many members in this forum and surely there is a lot of experience here too. It is true that we can learn from the experiences of others. a failure should not continue to be lamented but we must get up and learn from that failure. beside that, we can deepen our knowledge in this forum. there is a lot of information here that can't be found anywhere because most of it here is based on personal experience. keep growing and multiply information about crypto so that we can follow this crypto flow. investing in crypto requires a lot of effort and patience so don't give up easily with one failure.

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It is very exciting to see such posts in the beginners section. I learned about Bitcoin a little bit earlier than I knew this forum, and it makes me very happy to see so many people sharing his views on Bitcoin and decentralization. For novices, it is really difficult to get in touch with the knowledge of the cryptocurrency field. This forum is a treasure I found.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on September 25, 2021, 02:32:26 PM

Learning from other's experience is quite helpful as to make yourself not to do the same mistake

You are right, i adopt your solution and the same time Concord on the existing fact that learning from others experience is well acknowledgeable because it correct errors that may come across any person's way, and in other way round it's Base of the passed experience of users they use to educate new users, i would say we don't have a perfect educationist But learning eradicate errors or mistakes.

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Learning from other's experience is quite helpful as to make yourself not to do the same mistake but nothing beats experiences that you will go through and then share it to other people. Some may say that they are not doing it right or not having enough knowledge that's why it happened to them and later on it also happen to the one who said it the learn a lesson after experiencing it her/himself. Cases like this are about plagiarism.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules

Forum has some rules to protect the community. But following these rules is not very difficult. Have you ever wondered what would have happened if these rules did not exist? The forum would have been a hangout for scammers. I think newbies should be taught the rules so that they don't give birth to any new experience.

They should and they have to follow it otherwise, they'll face the consequences of committing any mistakes.

I know we sometimes commit mistakes ( I think everyone does) but at least it comes minimal. If we wanted to grow and improve ourselves better to listen to what others saying. It was for the sake of correcting our mistakes and not be going to happen. To follow the rules isn't really hard if we wanted to do so. Honestly, it is really hard to imagine the forum without certain rules to follow, and probably it has nowhere to go. And this is the reason why we still exist up to this time and counting.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 24, 2021, 06:51:09 AM

Quote from: Mpamaegbu on September 24, 2021, 01:37:39 AM

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That's the best no doubt but is it the smart way? We're in a time when what's best isn't enough anymore, now we have to do what's smart as well. Which is why we have smart devices to doing that for us. Learning from others mistakes will save you both losses and time. You don't have to wait for you to make that mistake when you can easily google it and see how to avoid it.

I got your drift quite alright, Brainboss. From the second sentence of where you quoted, I didn't mean we should deliberately go out on our way to make experiences of ours just because we want to learn from the mistakes. No, that isn't what I meant. The point I tried to labour there is that the lesson stays there longer with us if it's from an experience that happens to us than what we have others tell us. Look at it this way, why do you think we all have to read and then have revisions for examinations? It's simple. It's because those things we were taught in schools were the experiences of others which are shared to us on textbooks. Were those things on textbooks directly what happened to us we wouldn't need to bother revising them to remember them, would we? That's just the point I tried to buttress there.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules

Forum has some rules to protect the community. But following these rules is not very difficult. Have you ever wondered what would have happened if these rules did not exist? The forum would have been a hangout for scammers. I think newbies should be taught the rules so that they don't give birth to any new experience.

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Learning from our own mistakes and the mistakes of others will be beneficial for our future development. But many newbies are not even aware of their mistakes or never want to know what not to violate in this forum. they are not disciplined enough to read the rules that have been written and have been explained repeatedly.
This forum has many users with different mindsets. Breaking the rules once or twice is common, but if you keep repeating them they never learn.

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Quote from: Mpamaegbu on September 24, 2021, 01:37:39 AM

There's no way that will be possible. In fact, the best way to learn should be from one's mistakes and that's experience that lasts with us.

That's the best no doubt but is it the smart way? We're in a time when what's best isn't enough anymore, now we have to do what's smart as well. Which is why we have smart devices to doing that for us. Learning from others mistakes will save you both losses and time. You don't have to wait for you to make that mistake when you can easily google it and see how to avoid it.

Do you know some mistake hurts you forever even though you learn from them, Let me illustrate, you get banned for plagiarism on the forum, automatically you're banned forever as anytime you try rejoining the forum with similar details been posted on previous banned account, you get banned but if you had learnt from others making such mistakes of plagiarizing, you'll get same lesson but now be at advantage as you'll still be a member of the forum.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 06, 2021, 01:51:00 PM

I'll put this topics in a context that really matters and not focused on the affairs of the forum, When it comes to the life lessons of the market then learning from others has to be the only way to avoid been hurt.

Truth be told, in real life encounter there's no way people won't make their own mistakes. Even when one does nothing and folds one's hands in idleness, one would still be making a mistake of not taking any risk. And the greatest risk in life, they say, is not taking risk at all. I think what everyone should be canvassing here is to minimize one's mistakes but not that one can't make any at all. There's no way that will be possible. In fact, the best way to learn should be from one's mistakes and that's experience that lasts with us.

I got your point brother, we all make mistake, no one is above mistakes or perfect. But learning from others experience or mistakes who lead one to the right part. If everyone should wait to learn from his mistakes first there will be alot of damages. Learning from others mistakes will help to reduce bad occurance

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 06, 2021, 01:51:00 PM

I'll put this topics in a context that really matters and not focused on the affairs of the forum, When it comes to the life lessons of the market then learning from others has to be the only way to avoid been hurt.

Truth be told, in real life encounter there's no way people won't make their own mistakes. Even when one does nothing and folds one's hands in idleness, one would still be making a mistake of not taking any risk. And the greatest risk in life, they say, is not taking risk at all. I think what everyone should be canvassing here is to minimize one's mistakes but not that one can't make any at all. There's no way that will be possible. In fact, the best way to learn should be from one's mistakes and that's experience that lasts with us.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

I believe times without number some top members have made little mistakes that is against the forum rules and they served the consequences. It will be too bad if will keep on falling fall little mistakes. New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

Remember that these 'little mistakes' that you mentioned (e.g. plagiarism) is against forum rules. It is posted on the rules on the forum. Whether if someone reads the rules or not, constructive notice is enough for liability to attach to people who violate such rules.

But I do have to agree with you that experience is what separates a newbie from a veteran. Experience teaches you something to absolutely avoid since a person has experienced it personally.

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Quote from: Pmalek on September 20, 2021, 11:19:10 AM

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The thing about learning from other experiences is that you won't experience the same thing so you cannot feel the same way as that people have experienced, failure should be felt first before we succeed that is why it is way better to learn from your own mistakes, you gain experience and knowledge by that thing.

Are you sure you want to experience all the negative sides of crypto so that you can learn from them? You feel like bleeding, losing money, having your identity stolen, getting hacked, phished, and having your devices destroyed or corrupted by malware? What about pump & dump schemes and pyramid scams. Would you like to be tricked and invest money in those? I would rather not. I prefer reading about them, being cautious, applying security recommendations, and using my common sense to avoid all of the above and more. If I can.

Lol it will be terrible to experience all this as a self mistake, the best to learn is from the stories of others to plan things well to avoid mistake.

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The thing about learning from other experiences is that you won't experience the same thing so you cannot feel the same way as that people have experienced, failure should be felt first before we succeed that is why it is way better to learn from your own mistakes, you gain experience and knowledge by that thing.

Are you sure you want to experience all the negative sides of crypto so that you can learn from them? You feel like bleeding, losing money, having your identity stolen, getting hacked, phished, and having your devices destroyed or corrupted by malware? What about pump & dump schemes and pyramid scams. Would you like to be tricked and invest money in those? I would rather not. I prefer reading about them, being cautious, applying security recommendations, and using my common sense to avoid all of the above and more. If I can.

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the good side of this forum is that we can get information that is rarely found in others because here there are many members with their respective experiences and it is quite helpful for beginners where they need more knowledge. but keep in mind that getting failure continuously is not a good thing so as much as possible make experience as the best teacher in learning because we know our own shortcomings. believe in yourself that you can do it and stay positive and calm no matter what the crypto market situation is.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 06, 2021, 01:51:00 PM

I'll put this topics in a context that really matters and not focused on the affairs of the forum, When it comes to the life lessons of the market then learning from others has to be the only way to avoid been hurt. Time and time again we have been told to ignore the get rich quick schemes (which mainly resolve around altcoins) as they're been hyped and usually don't last long but yet the newbies chooses to ignore our advices and continue in their endless search for quick profit which usually end up with them losing then later regretting their actions.

If the newbie coming into the industry will understand how important this advice is, they'll not be going through same mistakes others before them made. There's no doubt your personal experience are needed to become a better investors or trader but you can equally get similar experience from using others experience as your reference instead of waiting for personal experience.

Now on the forum, the rules are very self explanatory, don't engage in activities that'll result to you getting banned or ruined your account and you'll be alright.

Well expressed nothing good comes easy, as we are after getting things done quickly, but this advice is enough for us because " A word is enough for the wise". What you just explained has make me loose so much by engaging in what is temporary made to scam, not knowing that it will fail at last. Thanks for this wonderful advice.

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The most important life lesson we will ever learn will be from the bad decisions we make. Understand what you did wrong and make sure that you do not do it again. But it is much wiser also to learn from other people's mistake so you can avoid the negative feeling and suffer the consequences. With regards to this forum rules, as long as you are not plagiarise and be good to anyone here, you will be okay.

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Quote from: Rruchi man on September 12, 2021, 09:18:19 AM

Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 06, 2021, 01:51:00 PM

Now on the forum, the rules are very self explanatory, don't engage in activities that'll result to you getting banned or ruined your account and you'll be alright.

I think the major problem here in the context of this forum is that some newbies are not disciplined enough to read through thoroughly the rules of this forum before they started, and so they have little understanding of how the forum operates.

Also there are also those who have read the rules and even heard the experiences of others but still choose to try maybe thinking that because the forum has many users it will be difficult to single them out.

For us who have been here a bit and the really old users, if you refer any bitcoin or crypto enthusiast to bitcointalk for the purpose of learning, please be sure to advice them to read and understand the rules of the forum, and if possible share personal or another users experience with them.

Not everyone is lucky enough to live in a life where we never committed any mistakes but as a normal practice we should know the basic things about it before jumping in which also applies to bitcointalk. Most of the boards have sticky threads which may give you an idea about what is the place is about and also how to save us from scammers.

Also there are set of rules which we should follow to stay in this forum. We all should know knowledge is more important than making few cents through bounties so just get started and sooner it may change your life completely.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 07, 2021, 06:38:09 PM

Buddy, experience is still the best teacher, not minding what the turn out of the event was, you'll still learn more effectively when you're the one experiencing the situation but that doesn't mean you should always put yourself at risk of always been hurt just to learn.

Experience ofcourse is the best teacher. But the OP stretch the topic towards another angle. The suitable title ought to be "Learn from others mistakes" and not "Learn from others experience". I would probably not commit murder in order to have prison experience. Likewise, I would also not want to plagiarise in order to have a permanent ban experience.
Experience should rather be used in more positive failed missions. Like, I chosed the wrong risk management in trading and blew my portfolio(this should be an experience) in a better context.
So, in order to have better understanding in live, experience is needed, but in the context of op, we learn not from others experience but mistakes.

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 06, 2021, 01:51:00 PM

Now on the forum, the rules are very self explanatory, don't engage in activities that'll result to you getting banned or ruined your account and you'll be alright.

I think the major problem here in the context of this forum is that some newbies are not disciplined enough to read through thoroughly the rules of this forum before they started, and so they have little understanding of how the forum operates.

Also there are also those who have read the rules and even heard the experiences of others but still choose to try maybe thinking that because the forum has many users it will be difficult to single them out.

For us who have been here a bit and the really old users, if you refer any bitcoin or crypto enthusiast to bitcointalk for the purpose of learning, please be sure to advice them to read and understand the rules of the forum, and if possible share personal or another users experience with them.

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I totally agree with you. It is better to learn from the mistakes of others, being observant and analytical along with being intuitive so that you can avoid making it and be punished. Just read and abide the rules and study more. I liked it that everything is fair here, wether you are a newbie or legendary, if you do something bad then you will get what you deserve.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

Growing up i was thought how to learn from peoples experience (mistake) because sometimes learning from personal mistake can be like a mark that one won't be able to forget and it could be to late to correct some mistake. When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules that if anyone takes for granted that person maybe penalized in respective of rank or position.

Never joke with Bitcontalk.org cause all eyes are watching you especially when you ignorantly break the 7 golden rules of the forum attracting bigger penalty that is capable of throwing you out of the forum if you are not that careful with your activities here. Bitcontalk is one of the best forum I have ever joined, full of information and individuals that are ready to help, guide and portray an epitome that is suitable for one's activities throughout the journey of cryptocurrency and trading.

Many newbies might still be skeptical of what this great forum entail and capable to adding one's life if they'll keep to the rules guiding there activities here on this forum. Never mind, I'm still learning and I can afford to let go of this forum.

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I believe times without number some top members have made little mistakes that is against the forum rules and they served the consequences. It will be too bad if will keep on falling fall little mistakes. New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

Never wait to learn from your own mistake cause it might be a disaster to you and difficult to amend. Life is full of ups and downs and circumstances everywhere, so we'll have to watch before we leap, learn unlearn and relearn to balance what life has to offer.

Wouldn't you wanna reach the top? The position where you'll be called a Legendary?...The journey is tough while the tough will keep on moving in respective of the circumstances on the way.

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Quote from: jackg on September 06, 2021, 12:24:41 PM

I think most of the parts you'll be permabanned for here are quite logical and explicit (like don't plagiarise).

There are some that aren't as explicit like people being banned for scams when they're claimed to be unmodded, however, the idea of just not making the forum a bad place probably still exists there - and a lot of those scammers might be the same person.

Even in the real world Plagiarism is an offence that in some cases is punishable by a jail term. As for scammers, they are one of the smartest lots in the world however instead of they have chosen to channel their intelligence to the wrong activity. In the human society such behaviors are not condoned.

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A wise fellow don't have to experience a thing before knowing what's obtainable. Learning from peoples mistakes can come in handy when dealing with risky adventure. One thing to point out is that nothing is new certainly someone somewhere must have encountered what you are about to tackle so taking advantage of their experience will help you alot in tackling yours you shouldn't reinvent the will

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Quote from: CryptopreneurBrainboss on September 07, 2021, 06:38:09 PM

Buddy, experience is still the best teacher, not minding what the turn out of the event was, you'll still learn more effectively when you're the one experiencing the situation but that doesn't mean you should always put yourself at risk of always been hurt just to learn.

~snip~

Yes I agree with you, it will be remembered forever. But we must not remember it forever, forget it and immediately take a new step. There is no point in overrepenting, if wrong and wrong is normal. Humans can't do anything perfect. Regret will only make us worse if we remember it. I will never regret because regret does not make something lost come back again. I prefer to learn from my own mistakes because it's more effective remembering to learn from others is also good but I think it's best to learn from what I've done.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 07, 2021, 06:24:08 PM

They say experience is the best teacher,but nowadays,people no longer get experience as their best teacher,because the experience that they got might be so bad not to be able to teach anymore,but to have lifetime regret over something.

Buddy, experience is still the best teacher, not minding what the turn out of the event was, you'll still learn more effectively when you're the one experiencing the situation but that doesn't mean you should always put yourself at risk of always been hurt just to learn.

If the lesson are terrible, you just have to learn how to see the best in every situation as there's always something to learn that'll be of help to you tomorrow. The lifetime regret are also a lesson that won't be forgetten easily, you just don't have to let the situation win because your getting defeated means exactly that.

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They say experience is the best teacher,but nowadays,people no longer get experience as their best teacher,because the experience that they got might be so bad not to be able to teach anymore,but to have lifetime regret over something.

Learning from others mistake,and experience I accept and buy the idea because it can make you maintain a clean record of yourself. I know mistakes and experience about something really help in making the right decision in future, but I mean having an experienced person in that field can help you cross that stumbling block.

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Learning have a diverse ways and it's not necessary that you will learn from someone because you can emulate some steps while the pattern of the is not legit, looking at some person's that kicks against plagiarism to the community but they plagiarised article almost every time, so following their steps or method of writing you may think that they are doing right while they engaged in negative side, shall in other form you might be right because some can be corrected or learn a lesson through someone's mistakes.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 07, 2021, 05:23:48 AM

Learning from personal mistake is best for improvement. But it will be more better to learn from others experience

It is the worst learning approach. Because sometimes you will have to pay expensive cost.

Sometimes you won't have chance to fix your mistakes.
Sometimes you will have to spend years to fix your mistakes.

So please listen to advice and try to think about it very carefully. Sometimes you will not understand advice if you only glance at it.

Learning from advice and mistakes of others are better, if not the best.

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Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on September 07, 2021, 01:47:13 AM

Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

Not to? Did you know that learning from mistakes make someone more improved since he fail something and to be able to change it he will try his best for improvement. I dont think it will be too late, its always has not In my opinion. Everyone has a chance to prove it amd keep trying. Being here in forum maybe harsh for some newbie but thats life. Some higher rank here correct them in order to help them not to downgrade them.

You are right. Learning from personal mistake is best for improvement. But it will be more better to learn from others experience

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Quote from: Hippocampus on September 07, 2021, 02:01:07 AM

<…> If the original text is not in English, is it okay?

If the original text is in a different language than that used within the post, the same convention applies: you need to add the link to the source.

In any case, the source should kind of warrant not falling into being accused of plagiarism, but really, everyone should make a minimal effort to move away from a verbatim copy/[translate][spin]/paste, and come up with something more personalized, be it a summary, a criticism, a series of questions, a versed opinion, or whatever.

From my point of view, it’s pretty annoying trying to discern what is the poster’s original content and what is not, and it’s rather much an irritating waste of time.

Note that the objective of adding the reference link is, in general, to make it feasible to discern what is your own text from what is not (quoting external source fragments would greatly improve giving visibility to this). If there is no source present, the assumption is that the wording on the post is entirely yours (the wording, not the idea). Links can also be added to reference further reading and such.

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Quote from: SquirrelJulietGarden on September 06, 2021, 10:03:57 PM

Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules that if anyone takes for granted that person maybe penalized in respective of rank or position.

Rules are clear. Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

Two most common violations and your account will be banned. For other rules, you will be warned multiple times.

Copy, paste and don't leave source link: plagiarism
Spread phishing links, malwares.

It seems that the history of plagiarism is a serious mistake, and the account will be banned. Just mark the citation or directly paste the link to the original text. If the original text is not in English, is it okay?

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

Not to? Did you know that learning from mistakes make someone more improved since he fail something and to be able to change it he will try his best for improvement. I dont think it will be too late, its always has not In my opinion. Everyone has a chance to prove it amd keep trying. Being here in forum maybe harsh for some newbie but thats life. Some higher rank here correct them in order to help them not to downgrade them.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules that if anyone takes for granted that person maybe penalized in respective of rank or position.

Rules are clear. Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ

Two most common violations and your account will be banned. For other rules, you will be warned multiple times.

Copy, paste and don't leave source link: plagiarism
Spread phishing links, malwares.

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I don’t think all experience is desirable。
The rules are set by people, and the forum is regulated in the process of operation, but the rules are always user-served.
The rules should be more and more in line with people’s needs, rather than scornful，
Even national laws and regulations need to be corrected in the course of time, so the rules of the forum should also be perfected in the process of practice.

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For some certain conditions, yes, learning from other people's mistakes and experiences is good to be done.
For, if we have that kind of mistake or experience such a certain experience, we don't have any chance again to fix the problem. And we are gone.
Sometimes, if we have a second chance for doing something, self-experiences are very worthy, worthier than other people because we are feeling and pricing itself by ourselves, we are feeling the hurt and also the loss.
But once again, if we will not have even a chance again after doing the mistake, it is better to learn from others.
OP may refer to the experience in this forum, making mistakes that make us permabanned means that we don't have a chance, that is why we must not do that mistakes.
But, if we do a mistake that is still understandable and apologized, we must learn from that experience, learn to form our mistakes, and don't do the same or that kind of mistake again.

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Quote from: isaac_clarke22 on September 06, 2021, 03:09:53 PM

Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

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New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

Shouldn't this be "learn from our mistakes" instead of "try not to learn from mistakes"?

I think what he is explaining is that one should not wait to make a mistake first before learning their lesson. It is better to learn from other's mistakes.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

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New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

Shouldn't this be "learn from our mistakes" instead of "try not to learn from mistakes"?

We all do make mistakes, OP but the problem is that there are just those newer users that just go straight up and post and not bother to read the forum rules.
Freedom in the internet is just way too of an overstatement to some, I must say.

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I'll put this topics in a context that really matters and not focused on the affairs of the forum, When it comes to the life lessons of the market then learning from others has to be the only way to avoid been hurt. Time and time again we have been told to ignore the get rich quick schemes (which mainly resolve around altcoins) as they're been hyped and usually don't last long but yet the newbies chooses to ignore our advices and continue in their endless search for quick profit which usually end up with them losing then later regretting their actions.

If the newbie coming into the industry will understand how important this advice is, they'll not be going through same mistakes others before them made. There's no doubt your personal experience are needed to become a better investors or trader but you can equally get similar experience from using others experience as your reference instead of waiting for personal experience.

Now on the forum, the rules are very self explanatory, don't engage in activities that'll result to you getting banned or ruined your account and you'll be alright.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 01:03:54 PM

The reason I said it is strong. It's a law that can't be reversed

I am not againsting you, the reason I said it is not strong is because they are easy to follow in real life while they are accurate

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Quote from: Oshosondy on September 06, 2021, 12:59:46 PM

Yes members should read and abide to the rules in ways they will not violate it.

Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules that if anyone takes for granted that person maybe penalized in respective of rank or position.

There is nothing strong in the rules than to just follow it, what newbies do fall into is plagiarism, some intentionally plagiarised because they think nobody will know, it will then be a surprised for them after they are banned as a result of plagiarism, I read the rules over and over, again and again but I did not see anything strong about it but just the rules to keep this forum healthy.

The reason I said it is strong. It's a law that can't be reversed

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Yes members should read and abide to the rules in ways they will not violate it.

Quote from: Rockstarguy on September 06, 2021, 12:06:17 PM

When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules that if anyone takes for granted that person maybe penalized in respective of rank or position.

There is nothing strong in the rules than to just follow it, what newbies do fall into is plagiarism, some intentionally plagiarised because they think nobody will know, it will then be a surprised for them after they are banned as a result of plagiarism, I read the rules over and over, again and again but I did not see anything strong about it but just the rules to keep this forum healthy.

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Quote from: jackg on September 06, 2021, 12:24:41 PM

I think most of the parts you'll be permabanned for here are quite logical and explicit (like don't plagiarise).

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this is what some people take for granted. Knowing fully the forum stand against it

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

I think most of the parts you'll be permabanned for here are quite logical and explicit (like don't plagiarise).

There are some that aren't as explicit like people being banned for scams when they're claimed to be unmodded, however, the idea of just not making the forum a bad place probably still exists there - and a lot of those scammers might be the same person.

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God is great

Growing up i was thought how to learn from peoples experience (mistake) because sometimes learning from personal mistake can be like a mark that one won't be able to forget and it could be to late to correct some mistake. When I joined the forum some months ago I got to know the forum has strong rules that if anyone takes for granted that person maybe penalized in respective of rank or position.
I believe times without number some top members have made little mistakes that is against the forum rules and they served the consequences. It will be too bad if will keep on falling fall little mistakes. New members let's try not to learn from our mistake because if we do ,it maybe too late to correct it .

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