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Quote from: tikalbong on July 01, 2017, 02:48:00 AM

When can we say that a drug is legal and illegal. All drugs are harmful if not taken properly or being abused right? in this case, I think all drugs are legal, It's just a matter of how a person utilizes it right?

I think the legality of drugs depends on the user and how he/she utilizes it. Because some people who is ill needs a specific drug which can be harmful if someone who's not sick uses it.
There is a permit if country or your city will allow to use for example is medical purposes.

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Quote from: tikalbong on July 01, 2017, 02:48:00 AM

When can we say that a drug is legal and illegal. All drugs are harmful if not taken properly or being abused right? in this case, I think all drugs are legal, It's just a matter of how a person utilizes it right?

It is true that drug abuse causes a bad effect and any medication that if wrong use is wrong,. but do you know why drugs can be illegal,? Actually some drugs have a license and the license to use,, because in the content of these drugs have high levels. That's what causes some drugs to be illegal.,.

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Quote from: magneto on July 01, 2017, 08:41:28 PM

Though regulators rarely get it right, you see alcohol and tobacco is legal and widely used, yet many researchers have shown that it is more addictive than heroin, and many times more addictive than marijuana.

Alcohol and tobacco are legal, because the cartels running these commodities are too strong and they pose hardly any threat to the pharma mafia. On the other hand, legalization of marijuana negatively impacts the pharma as well as drug cartels. That is the reason why the politicians are not interested in lifting the ban on weed, despite the majority of the population remains in favor of lifting it.

Exactly, the government always says stuff about outlawing guns, having better healthcare etc. obviously it's going to be an improvement to life expectancy of the nation but why don't they ban cigarettes which kills more people?

Weed has a very negative connotation even though it's just as addictive as caffeine, yet smoking cigarettes is still socially acceptable?

It's all about money for the rich... More money and even more money. If something is there to stop them from having that extra money, they're gunna do anything they can to stop it from happening, and in this case - legalizing weed federally.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on July 01, 2017, 10:38:30 PM

Quote from: magneto on July 01, 2017, 08:41:28 PM

Though regulators rarely get it right, you see alcohol and tobacco is legal and widely used, yet many researchers have shown that it is more addictive than heroin, and many times more addictive than marijuana.

Alcohol and tobacco are legal, because the cartels running these commodities are too strong and they pose hardly any threat to the pharma mafia. On the other hand, legalization of marijuana negatively impacts the pharma as well as drug cartels. That is the reason why the politicians are not interested in lifting the ban on weed, despite the majority of the population remains in favor of lifting it.

That is true until they see that the economic incentive is there and a significant stream of revenue can be made by legalizing the market and taking the profits as taxes, so it depends partially on the influence of lobbyists and well as the tax advantages to legalization vs making it illegal in terms of cost management.

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Quote from: magneto on July 01, 2017, 08:41:28 PM

Though regulators rarely get it right, you see alcohol and tobacco is legal and widely used, yet many researchers have shown that it is more addictive than heroin, and many times more addictive than marijuana.

Alcohol and tobacco are legal, because the cartels running these commodities are too strong and they pose hardly any threat to the pharma mafia. On the other hand, legalization of marijuana negatively impacts the pharma as well as drug cartels. That is the reason why the politicians are not interested in lifting the ban on weed, despite the majority of the population remains in favor of lifting it.

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Quote from: tikalbong on July 01, 2017, 02:48:00 AM

When can we say that a drug is legal and illegal. All drugs are harmful if not taken properly or being abused right? in this case, I think all drugs are legal, It's just a matter of how a person utilizes it right?

Well, legal drugs are supposedly less harmful for your body. Obviously medicine is supposed to help yoru body... But if abused anything can be addictive potentially, as long as it makes you feel better. Though regulators rarely get it right, you see alcohol and tobacco is legal and widely used, yet many researchers have shown that it is more addictive than heroin, and many times more addictive than marijuana.

So in reality, weed shouldn't even be a debate. It should be legalized by the standards governments are setting with alcohol/cigarettes. But governments get $$$ from taxes so they can't just outlaw it overnight...

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I'd prefer they be all be banned until their long terms effects are fully know. It would be naive to compare cough syrup to meth. The former maybe addictive (depending on the component) but you need an awful ton of it to get high.

We already see what these drugs do to people. Just imagine if these hard drugs are legal. Many places can't even handle drunk people, much less those who are high.

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Quote from: Jherek on July 01, 2017, 05:43:03 AM

Personally i think that there is no point of outlawing any drug... At least the worst that can happen is that you kill yourself, that's all. maybe we should have illegal and legal firearms as well then???

Haha We do!
In most countries automatic weapons are illegal. You just can't buy things like this m249, they are reserved for the military.

Also some guns are legal to own, but illegal to carry with you. They can be used only on shooting ranges.

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Some would probably argue "it's the dosage". I would add that the frequency of use of any drug, illegal or legal, will determine effect. Many drugs are addictive and changes the brain chemistry, changing the user's personality as well. More often than not, these drugs are labelled illegal.

What determines what become legal or illegal is what the government thinks of the substance, as well as the culture. For example, alcohol causes brain impairment (possibly permanent with prolonged use) and is addictive but it is legal in many countries where people are accustomed to having access to it.

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And this and that should be banned!

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Quote from: tikalbong on July 01, 2017, 02:48:00 AM

When can we say that a drug is legal and illegal. All drugs are harmful if not taken properly or being abused right? in this case, I think all drugs are legal, It's just a matter of how a person utilizes it right?

As bad as cocaine is, it has its own medicinal use which is to heal serious wounds as a result of fatal accident but in that case, it has to be under the supervision of a medical personnel. That's legal because its for a greater good but not to use it and get high and after that start misbehaving which can in turn lead to been remanded in rehabilitation homes if he has been declared bankrupt as a result of its use. That's outrightly illegal.

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Quote from: tikalbong on July 01, 2017, 02:48:00 AM

When can we say that a drug is legal and illegal. All drugs are harmful if not taken properly or being abused right? in this case, I think all drugs are legal, It's just a matter of how a person utilizes it right?

The only thing that makes anything legal or illegal is if Government uses some form of adjudication to make it so.

If you are property of the Government, then legal and illegal apply to you. If you are not property of the Government, then illegal and legal do not apply to you.

In the United States, if you are taken to court by Government for anything, if you require it, Government has to show the harm or damage you did. The entity on the complaint against you (the indictment) has to take the oath/affirmation, get on the stand, speak into the record the harm you did to him, and show the harm, and prove that it was you that did it to him.

Using drugs at home doesn't hurt anyone. Prove it if it does. Somebody make a claim that accuses. Government only makes complaints. Claims in law overrule complaints. Make the claim in court that nobody is going to get on the stand and show the harm you did to him. State that if he does, you will reimburse him. Government can't get on the stand. Government is only paperwork. If a man/woman gets on the stand, make sure the man or woman is the one on the indictment.

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Quote from: tikalbong on July 01, 2017, 02:48:00 AM

When can we say that a drug is legal and illegal. All drugs are harmful if not taken properly or being abused right? in this case, I think all drugs are legal, It's just a matter of how a person utilizes it right?

Whether a drug is legal or not is up to the government to decide.

Personally i think that there is no point of outlawing any drug... At least the worst that can happen is that you kill yourself, that's all. maybe we should have illegal and legal firearms as well then??? Roll Eyes

Weed is way less harmful than tobacco, yet governments need tobacco to survive somewhat because it's a main revenue stream for them. And to classify weed as recreational and medical is just even more ridiculous...

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Quote from: TheButterZone on July 01, 2017, 02:55:48 AM

All drugs are harmful, self-harm is a human right, the end.

Depends if the druggie is out to harm me because they got a crack addiction and threatens me with a knife or something for a fix or the bum on the street is bugging me for change cause he can't break the habit and won't get a job, goes to the shelter for food and stuff people donate then uses the begging money to feed his booze addiction. Then it's my problem and I want them handled.
That said if it's a Nicaragua model to drugs your right I have no issues with that fundamentally, honeybadger don't give a damn as long as you don't damn me about it as well, which is the real question.
http://www.history.com/news/americas-war-on-drugs-was-designed-to-fail-so-why-is-it-being-revived-now

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This also can be applied for cigarettes they are legal in like every country and we all know that they are bad for people. Most of the drugs are bad, there are few that can really be helpful and be used in medical way but if you consume them the right way, which means no overdosing and not taking them more as you should take them.

Countries tend to ban them for no reason, I mean people will find and buy drugs if they wanted to, just price is higher as they are illegal, while cigarettes on the other hand also have bad impact on human beings but are legal because it is a huge industry that can't be taken down that easily. Again governments like to control what you do with your life - what you can and what you can't.

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All drugs are harmful, self-harm is a human right, the end.

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When can we say that a drug is legal and illegal. All drugs are harmful if not taken properly or being abused right? in this case, I think all drugs are legal, It's just a matter of how a person utilizes it right?

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