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Thanks for the comments and assistance, I don't mind if you hold your discussions that are relevant here at all! Lender
Back to topic, please add the following to your lenders log:
0.10 BTC loan from Vod to letyouearn Repayment of 0.11 BTC no later than October 10. Thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-010-btc-loan-1199413
It is just an idea but maybe you could add in the OP if an escrow is involed in the loan.
Either would work...Should start crowfunding with an escrow holding the funds... im sure the active lenders would like something to simplify their jobs too. If you use my tool, crowdfunding won't be necessary... I really hate scammers, so i would create an online ledger for free (i wouldn't mind getting something in the tipjar once it's completely finished tough )wouldnt mind tipping at all if it has all those you mentioned earlier : Quote EDIT: an alternative to scraping the full forum would be this: - every lender opens an account on my ledger, and adds his/her loanthread - we all use the same (hidden) tag around our open loans - i schedule an hourly cronjob, fetch all first pages of all loanthreads for everybody in my database. I use a simple domparser to parse all loans Well... I'm thinking about creating an online ledger without scraper to begin with, and then use the API of the ledger to communicate with a decentralised scraper (probably written in perl, and running as a cronjob from one of my VPS's). That way, i'll avoid heavy load on my main server Don't worry about tipping. I was only half-serious when i mentioned it in the first place... I'll do the work for free if the community has a concensus to use the ledger, offcourse i won't complain if i get a small tip now and then... EDIT: at the moment, i don't think we've reached a concensus https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-lenders-fighting-scammers-together-1203414Either would work...Should start crowfunding with an escrow holding the funds... im sure the active lenders would like something to simplify their jobs too. If you use my tool, crowdfunding won't be necessary... I really hate scammers, so i would create an online ledger for free (i wouldn't mind getting something in the tipjar once it's completely finished tough )wouldnt mind tipping at all if it has all those you mentioned earlier : Quote EDIT: an alternative to scraping the full forum would be this: - every lender opens an account on my ledger, and adds his/her loanthread - we all use the same (hidden) tag around our open loans - i schedule an hourly cronjob, fetch all first pages of all loanthreads for everybody in my database. I use a simple domparser to parse all loans Either would work...Should start crowfunding with an escrow holding the funds... im sure the active lenders would like something to simplify their jobs too. If you use my tool, crowdfunding won't be necessary... I really hate scammers, so i would create an online ledger for free (i wouldn't mind getting something in the tipjar once it's completely finished tough ) -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out My demo is already running since yesterday. It's ugly as f*ck, and most functionality isn't included yet (if i ever make a beta version, both layout and functionality will be fixed.... I'll only make a beta if the community agrees to use my tool tough)... but it shows you how i would make a tool like this: http://www.altcoinhosting.com/ledger/ Your tool doesn't scrape this forum, does it? It would need to be integrated into TSP's script to be of any use. Otherwise you are just transferring from one manual system to another. No, it doesn't scrape the forum... I could make a scraper, but i'd hate to reinvent the wheel. If TSP already has a good scraper available, that would be fine EDIT: an alternative to scraping the full forum would be this: - every lender opens an account on my ledger, and adds his/her loanthread - we all use the same (hidden) tag around our open loans - i schedule an hourly cronjob, fetch all first pages of all loanthreads for everybody in my database. I use a simple domparser to parse all loans This will ofcourse only work if everybody uses the same tags around their open loans... i like this idea too. The lenders gotta agree to use it though else it'll be a waste of time and coins. all data needs to be in same format right? should we discuss here or in the other thread. Maybe the other thread would be the best place? Otherwise we'll fill TheGr33k's thread with a big discussion Either would work...Should start crowfunding with an escrow holding the funds... im sure the active lenders would like something to simplify their jobs too. -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out My demo is already running since yesterday. It's ugly as f*ck, and most functionality isn't included yet (if i ever make a beta version, both layout and functionality will be fixed.... I'll only make a beta if the community agrees to use my tool tough)... but it shows you how i would make a tool like this: http://www.altcoinhosting.com/ledger/ Your tool doesn't scrape this forum, does it? It would need to be integrated into TSP's script to be of any use. Otherwise you are just transferring from one manual system to another. No, it doesn't scrape the forum... I could make a scraper, but i'd hate to reinvent the wheel. If TSP already has a good scraper available, that would be fine EDIT: an alternative to scraping the full forum would be this: - every lender opens an account on my ledger, and adds his/her loanthread - we all use the same (hidden) tag around our open loans - i schedule an hourly cronjob, fetch all first pages of all loanthreads for everybody in my database. I use a simple domparser to parse all loans This will ofcourse only work if everybody uses the same tags around their open loans... i like this idea too. The lenders gotta agree to use it though else it'll be a waste of time and coins. all data needs to be in same format right? should we discuss here or in the other thread. Maybe the other thread would be the best place? Otherwise we'll fill TheGr33k's thread with a big discussion -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out My demo is already running since yesterday. It's ugly as f*ck, and most functionality isn't included yet (if i ever make a beta version, both layout and functionality will be fixed.... I'll only make a beta if the community agrees to use my tool tough)... but it shows you how i would make a tool like this: http://www.altcoinhosting.com/ledger/ Your tool doesn't scrape this forum, does it? It would need to be integrated into TSP's script to be of any use. Otherwise you are just transferring from one manual system to another. No, it doesn't scrape the forum... I could make a scraper, but i'd hate to reinvent the wheel. If TSP already has a good scraper available, that would be fine EDIT: an alternative to scraping the full forum would be this: - every lender opens an account on my ledger, and adds his/her loanthread - we all use the same (hidden) tag around our open loans - i schedule an hourly cronjob, fetch all first pages of all loanthreads for everybody in my database. I use a simple domparser to parse all loans This will ofcourse only work if everybody uses the same tags around their open loans... i like this idea too. The lenders gotta agree to use it though else it'll be a waste of time and coins. all data needs to be in same format right? should we discuss here or in the other thread. -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out My demo is already running since yesterday. It's ugly as f*ck, and most functionality isn't included yet (if i ever make a beta version, both layout and functionality will be fixed.... I'll only make a beta if the community agrees to use my tool tough)... but it shows you how i would make a tool like this: http://www.altcoinhosting.com/ledger/ Your tool doesn't scrape this forum, does it? It would need to be integrated into TSP's script to be of any use. Otherwise you are just transferring from one manual system to another. No, it doesn't scrape the forum... I could make a scraper, but i'd hate to reinvent the wheel. If TSP already has a good scraper available, that would be fine EDIT: an alternative to scraping the full forum would be this: - every lender opens an account on my ledger, and adds his/her loanthread - we all use the same (hidden) tag around our open loans - i schedule an hourly cronjob, fetch all first pages of all loanthreads for everybody in my database. I use a simple domparser to parse all loans This will ofcourse only work if everybody uses the same tags around their open loans... i like this idea too. The lenders gotta agree to use it though else it'll be a waste of time and coins.
i like the idea from altcoinhosting, as long as i know "most" ppl that give out loans its cool. its a pain in the ass to check the whole sub for every user that requests a loan.
-snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out My demo is already running since yesterday. It's ugly as f*ck, and most functionality isn't included yet (if i ever make a beta version, both layout and functionality will be fixed.... I'll only make a beta if the community agrees to use my tool tough)... but it shows you how i would make a tool like this: http://www.altcoinhosting.com/ledger/ Your tool doesn't scrape this forum, does it? It would need to be integrated into TSP's script to be of any use. Otherwise you are just transferring from one manual system to another. No, it doesn't scrape the forum... I could make a scraper, but i'd hate to reinvent the wheel. If TSP already has a good scraper available, that would be fine EDIT: an alternative to scraping the full forum would be this: - every lender opens an account on my ledger, and adds his/her loanthread - we all use the same (hidden) tag around our open loans (for example, and anchor-tag) - i schedule an hourly cronjob, fetch all first pages of all loanthreads for everybody in my database. I use a simple domparser to parse all loans This will ofcourse only work if everybody uses the same tags around their open loans... -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out Yes definitely mate -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out My demo is already running since yesterday. It's ugly as f*ck, and most functionality isn't included yet (if i ever make a beta version, both layout and functionality will be fixed.... I'll only make a beta if the community agrees to use my tool tough)... but it shows you how i would make a tool like this: http://www.altcoinhosting.com/ledger/ Your tool doesn't scrape this forum, does it? It would need to be integrated into TSP's script to be of any use. Otherwise you are just transferring from one manual system to another. -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out My demo is already running since yesterday. It's ugly as f*ck, and most functionality isn't included yet (if i ever make a beta version, both layout and functionality will be fixed.... I'll only make a beta if the community agrees to use my tool tough)... but it shows you how i would make a tool like this: http://www.altcoinhosting.com/ledger/ -snip- PM sent. Replied and lets keep the rest of the discussion here mate as the project infos are posted here. If it's affordable i'll fund this project personally and if its not , well im sure we can work something out I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. Yeah i agree, maybe tspacepilot could help out with a script. ...says the dude who got caught trust-farming and setting everyone up for a long-con  Anyway, if someone wants to hire me to write a script for something, they should PM me. Definitely curious as james has asked, as I'm sure we could get a community pool together for something rather quickly unless I am over-estimating things If you do not wish to publicly answer, then I will be in touch via PM when it is appropriate. Well the number of people it is actually a good idea to lend to, that actually request loans is very low right now. It is also not necessarily a scam if someone is attempting to borrow additional money while having an outstanding loan (they could have underestimated their needs, and requested a lower amount in order to avoid paying excess interest. If a lender is not willing to make a simple neutral feedback (and if they are not willing to check for neutral feedback), then I do not see why they would be willing to post (or check) this thread. I would say in a best case scenario, you will need to check for outstanding loans yourself to update this thread, and follow up on loans to confirm once they have been repaid. This is not the first time a thread like this has been created, and I am not sure how successful it was. I think the concept is good, however there are simply too many lenders who are clueless as to how to protect themselves. Thank you for your input, and I am very aware of the tremendous amount of work this thread may amount to. It was just an idea we got talking about in another thread and I ran with it figuring it couldn't do any harm. At the very most I end up wasting time and at the very best I save someone from getting scammed. I suppose we'll see how it plays out. I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. Yeah i agree, maybe tspacepilot could help out with a script. ...says the dude who got caught trust-farming and setting everyone up for a long-con Anyway, if someone wants to hire me to write a script for something, they should PM me. What would you charge for something like this ? Well its also for the community benefit. PM sent. I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. Yeah i agree, maybe tspacepilot could help out with a script. ...says the dude who got caught trust-farming and setting everyone up for a long-con Anyway, if someone wants to hire me to write a script for something, they should PM me. What would you charge for something like this ? Well its also for the community benefit.
Well the number of people it is actually a good idea to lend to, that actually request loans is very low right now. It is also not necessarily a scam if someone is attempting to borrow additional money while having an outstanding loan (they could have underestimated their needs, and requested a lower amount in order to avoid paying excess interest.
If a lender is not willing to make a simple neutral feedback (and if they are not willing to check for neutral feedback), then I do not see why they would be willing to post (or check) this thread. I would say in a best case scenario, you will need to check for outstanding loans yourself to update this thread, and follow up on loans to confirm once they have been repaid. This is not the first time a thread like this has been created, and I am not sure how successful it was. I think the concept is good, however there are simply too many lenders who are clueless as to how to protect themselves. I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. Yeah i agree, maybe tspacepilot could help out with a script. ...says the dude who got caught trust-farming and setting everyone up for a long-con Anyway, if someone wants to hire me to write a script for something, they should PM me. I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. Yeah i agree, maybe tspacepilot could help out with a script. It really should not be difficult to check for any open loans, all a potential lender will need to do is search the lending sub with the potential borrower's username, check his untrusted feedback for neutral notes saying they have an open loan, and check their post history for evidence of an open loan. It should be impossible for a borrower to use the same collateral twice as a lender should not fund the loan until the collateral is properly secured by either himself or an escrow. There is also no real reason why someone cannot borrow from two lenders at the same time, or have two loans open. Plus the most common issue with "double borrowing" will be that the borrower makes multiple loan requests and then two lenders fill the loan almost at the same time. A lot of lenders these days are unfortunately accepting small loans to low-level accounts for small amounts of BTC. Most do not leave neutral feedback, and for whatever reason many also do not read untrusted feedback. I agree he probably has no interest in making a script for the community, but I'm sure there are others who would be willing if it was drawn out properly and thoroughly with significant benefit laid-out clearly. There isn't any reason why a borrower can open more than one loan at a time, however it would be a nice thing to know if they already have a public loan active. I agree if a borrower spams two threads quickly this system does not help assist against that other than the fact that it is reminding users constantly to check this thread, along with the most recent posts of other threads for the aforementioned scam-type. @altcoinhosting I have added yours to the log! I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. @Vod: we're currently discussing about the best way to attack the scammers: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12630947 Since you're one of the bigger loaners out here, maybe you can join us. It would be nice to have a lot of opinions @TheGr33k: while we're waiting untill i have the time to create a poll, maybe you can add my loans to your thread to? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12435612 Thanks! I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. Yeah i agree, maybe tspacepilot could help out with a script. It really should not be difficult to check for any open loans, all a potential lender will need to do is search the lending sub with the potential borrower's username, check his untrusted feedback for neutral notes saying they have an open loan, and check their post history for evidence of an open loan. It should be impossible for a borrower to use the same collateral twice as a lender should not fund the loan until the collateral is properly secured by either himself or an escrow. There is also no real reason why someone cannot borrow from two lenders at the same time, or have two loans open. Plus the most common issue with "double borrowing" will be that the borrower makes multiple loan requests and then two lenders fill the loan almost at the same time. I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. There is an active thread going on where members are discussing creating an extension for browsers that allow lenders to do just that. I'm just attempting to band-aid the situation and hold down the fort while I've got some time available to be active and maintain a real-time loan thread. Nothing major, but any lender that wants to be involved has to do their part and the thread shouldn't be too hard to maintain. Might make scam-busting even easier. I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement. Yeah i agree, maybe tspacepilot could help out with a script. I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans. Good idea, but manual lists are hard to keep up to date. An automatic system would be much better, but hard to implement.
I think it's a good idea. An all in one spot to double check all the loans.
Update my funded loan here on your topic . Topic link = https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-003-loan-1201781 Lent = 0.06 BTC total. Repayment = 0.07 with interest. Added your requested active loan to OP
Update my funded loan here on your topic .
Topic link = https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-003-loan-1201781 Lent = 0.06 BTC total. Repayment = 0.07 with interest.
This thread will be prettier as time goes on, but it's a simple principle and we'll see how it plays out: This thread is for lender's to post their active-loans that they are comfortable being public and the reason for this thread's creation is to stop multiple-loan scamming / double-fulfillment. Post your active loans below to have them added to the public log, and when the loan is concluded please get in contact with me to update it's status! Per discussion here : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12629938
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