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February 05, 2024, 04:20:21 AM
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Where do you live? if you live in the jungle, it make sense you have a thought real estate will crash.

If you answer you're live in a building, that contradict your claims since you're not able to live without a roof. There's no way real estate will crash since anyone in this world need house to live.

For luxury goods, it can only crash if a big war happens e.g. World War 3.
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Of course only a very rich man would spend his money blindly on something. When investing whether in crypto, stocks, luxury products or real estate you always have to be aware of the current market situation. Even some investments that are relatively stable still have their best and worst times so as an investor, you are going to want to get maximum profit.

Make sure that you are coming in to the market the right time and also check if you are financially ready to be investing

Interesting advice and the market day was also quite good at the beginning of the opening and I saw that on average everyone experienced price increases after the pump and dump a few days ago. Yes. In the past, perhaps many people didn't dare to enter, but if they were already skilled, the reversal had already occurred, even though it was still relatively small, but at least they had made a profit of several percent of their initial capital.
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Then you are better with the real estate tycoons that have been monitoring that niche for how many years. I've been hearing as well this crash that should have happened long time ago but instead of a crash, what I am seeing is overpriced housing properties and lands.

I thought when the covid-19 pandemic came, most of the real estate have gone down. I've seen many of them were but after the recovery period, then everything came back and expensive again.

No doubt that Bitcoin is a good choice but talking about safety, in what kind of sense it is? Guaranteed? Like that, well no debate that it is probably the next best choice before or after real estate.
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People have been calling on real estate crashes for years. Besides what happened in USA, most real estate markets around the world are very strong. Look at Canada for example. We got $2M dollar homes here which are competely run down. And they are only selling because of the area they are located in.

Luxury goods like watches already peaked in 2022 and are slowly correcting. Same with luxury cars. No longer are people paying markup for such goods as before.
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not gonna crash if the population density kept on increasing you should realize that the real estate always climbing up its price for a reason. that is because population density in certain area keep increasing if you look at the country side everything about the price of housing and real estate still make a lot of sense but you come to a big city its entire different problem a house could cost so much I doubt any ordinary gen z could even afford it in the future that is because centralized living, people want to live as near as possible to the public facilities and so on.
i might be wrong but i think the market of housing won't just pop a bubble right that, i've been waiting for that to happen i waited few years already nothing happened its just getting higher and higher make me rather
doubtful whether those bubble popping off thing with housing is just a myth.
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Btc,gold,oil,Silver,and all the other assets listed on exchangers and have a lot funds to lock the lowest prices Are much Safer.

There is no investment without risk at all. Even if an investment doesn't have too much risk, it will still contain small risk that can also result to unprofitable investment or loses. Investment that have too much of profit will also have too much of risk but all you have to do is to study the risk and be prepared on when to act. When to act, I mean the time which you are supposed to zoom out from the investment.    Example is trading, in trading some people make too much profit but when the market turn against their favor they will also face too much loses. All the asset  you have mentioned, have different risk which varies.
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There is a possibility of an economic catastrophe where a lot of markets crash around the world but "crash" doesn't mean there is a bubble. Bubble is when price is a lot higher than the intrinsic value and apart from a handful of cases, there is no bubble globally speaking.

The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.
That's a weird comparison since NFT is not an asset, it is a useless abstract whereas cars, real estate, etc. are useful and at the end of the day even if they crash, they still remain valuable but NFTs being useless crash and die.

By the way when you talk about 80% crash in real estate market you should be specific about where, so we can discuss its possibility. After all it is not a global market!!!
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My bold call 80% real estate crash.
The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.
The art and Luxury goods and watches also about to fall.
How can real estate crash? How can you say that real estate's price is like NFT where price only goes high if someone pays? There is a big demand for houses, there are millions of people living in rent. Wouldn't they pay for a house instead of rent? Real estate companies, millionaires and many other people want to buy houses because it's a good and easy way to make money. You can't sell a house overnight but no house owner wants and expects to sell the house in a few days. I don't think we will see a real estate market crash during such a big demand.

the whales using the "falling locks" specially for btc so that's btc is far more safe Investment now than real estate. Becouse assets wich traded on exchangers have only limited downsides priced in monthly lows and highs.
Bitcoin is very volatile, you have to be psychologically ready for that investment. Most people aren't ready and when they see the price going down, they sell their bitcoins immediately while the housing market progressively goes up, that's why people prefer to stick to it.
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It is true that property will always increase in price if the property being sold remains good. actually what goes up is the price of the land and building materials. if you buy a new car and sell it again, the price does not increase but instead decreases, there is depreciation in the value of the asset that is certain.
the thing with property i think is that population density kept increasing, housing in country side is cheap as heck because nobody wants to live in countryside except they trying to start agriculture or something even running industrial only benefits certain niche its not really good for industry.
but in the city the population density keep increasing like there's no tomorrow certainly will affect housing price in the long run, even more so with the fact that inflation hits, i don't think this time around there will be bubble with real estate, its just not really a thing people are still finding housing even when the price are high, why should many people suddenly sell their house at cheap price and call it a bubble popping off while really it isn't.
i would instead think that the price of housing will be increase higher again, as long as the centralization of population in certain region is not solved it will just increase as high like silicon valley.
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What properties are you referring to? The real estate market is Chinese, American, European, or what? Real estate is linked to financing and the dollar, and both of them may witness improvement in the coming months, so purchasing real estate now may be considered a good opportunity, especially with the possibility of paying off less debt.

It is true that it is wrong to spend money to buy a house, but what is true is that it is an investment, and with any investment, you need to have a background in it, otherwise it will be bad. Even Bitcoin, without experience with it, you are betting on losing your money.
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My bold call 80% real estate crash.
The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.

real estate does not exactly "crash" or "pop"
what actually occurs is rather than regional comps raise by inflation rate per square foot.. it stagnates.. but mortgages where someone buying a $200k house at inflation interest rate mortgage ends up paying ~$350k to settle the mortgage. but the house value over time did not reach $350k over the time of the mortgage. so even if the comps market reached average $315k as opposed to $200k .. its seen as a 10% market crash

the comps market does go up.. just appears as a crash due to many factors
EG new affordable homes for $150k(smallerft) sways the pre-available home market $200k to appear as houses have lost $50k

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Right? Real estate and luxury goods being like NFTs, where prices depend on finding someone willing to pay more. It's a reminder to know what you're doing before throwing money into real estate. BTC seems safer to now really but its always a matter of priorities
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Now it's time to learn hard way If you don't understood markets you better not even spend money to buy home without learning first how the finances and market works.


Of course only a very rich man would spend his money blindly on something. When investing whether in crypto, stocks, luxury products or real estate you always have to be aware of the current market situation. Even some investments that are relatively stable still have their best and worst times so as an investor, you are going to want to get maximum profit.

Make sure that you are coming in to the market the right time and also check if you are financially ready to be investing
Even the rich also cry, you can't be so rich that you can't lose it all if you go on to continually make wrong investment decisions, it is not an issue of rich or poor as an investor just don't invest blindly, do your underground study about the asset you which to invest in because that's what makes you an investor and not a gambler who has to go all in wishing for luck to take it course. If you have the money to go into any business investment but have no prior knowledge it is wise you seek professional expertise support and guidance than taking risk blindly because you have the money.
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My bold call 80% real estate crash.
The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.
The art and Luxury goods and watches also about to fall.

Real estate is much more special than the rest you have mentioned. Where I live, the demand for houses is high, and there are not enough spaces to build more. This is because its a student residential area. Every year, thousands of students are admitted to the institution, but the environment and houses are not enough for everyone. This brought about an increase in the cost of houses in the area. And those who invested in real estate over there are making lots of money because of the demand. Students are willing to pay a huge amount to get an admission; if not, they will suffer from the disadvantages of staying away from the university premises.

I purely trust real estate. Why? Because every geographical area has a point in time when there will be a high demand for spaces within that environment. By then, the real investors who took the opportunity to own a space would be the beneficiaries.
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the whales using the "falling locks" specially for btc so that's btc is far more safe Investment now than real estate. Becouse assets wich traded on exchangers have only limited downsides priced in monthly lows and highs.
There is no general real estate market, the cost, risk and reward of land and property differs in each country, though we can generally agree that real estate is a much safer and stable investment than Bitcoin and thus i do not agree with your analysis. Bitcoin is a volatile investment with spontaneous movements in its price, though in the long run investing in Bitcoin can accrue huge ROI for investors. It is basically up to the investor and their risk appetite, and it is also great to diversify by buying both Bitcoin and landed properties, to avoid putting all your eggs in one basket.
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It is true that property will always increase in price if the property being sold remains good. actually what goes up is the price of the land and building materials. if you buy a new car and sell it again, the price does not increase but instead decreases, there is depreciation in the value of the asset that is certain.
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My bold call 80% real estate crash.
The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.
The art and Luxury goods and watches also about to fall.

Btc,gold,oil,Silver,and all the other assets listed on exchangers and have a lot funds to lock the lowest prices Are much Safer.

Now it's time to learn hard way If you don't understood markets you better not even spend money to buy home without learning first how the finances and market works.

Silver i would'nt buy because germany producing silver a lot and there is more suplly of Silver than demand.

the whales using the "falling locks" specially for btc so that's btc is far more safe Investment now than real estate. Becouse assets wich traded on exchangers have only limited downsides priced in monthly lows and highs.

Make that "your dumb call", but then again you've not even specified which property market we're talking about - China? America? Europe? They all have vastly different dynamics and while loosely connected have large differences. Some markets have 30 year fixed mortgages which are not affected by short term winds, others are newcomers who have tried to grow very fast and are likely unstable or other markets can be driven largely by renters so are less bothered by price changes. Then again, there is not much correct logic to anything you've posted, as you spring from real estate, to precious metals and then the stock market - try to analyse one thing instead of many, because even in the worst financial crisis for decades in 2008, the property market barely dropped 15%.
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My bold call 80% real estate crash.
The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.
The art and Luxury goods and watches also about to fall.

Btc,gold,oil,Silver,and all the other assets listed on exchangers and have a lot funds to lock the lowest prices Are much Safer.

Now it's time to learn hard way If you don't understood markets you better not even spend money to buy home without learning first how the finances and market works.

Silver i would'nt buy because germany producing silver a lot and there is more suplly of Silver than demand.

the whales using the "falling locks" specially for btc so that's btc is far more safe Investment now than real estate. Becouse assets wich traded on exchangers have only limited downsides priced in monthly lows and highs.



And how exactly the air will be out of the economy?? And who will do it?

If real estates crashes, all banks will be crashed to dust as well. Art, car and luxury goods have a very different customer base who can be left aside because they are wealthy class people and usually do not goes bankrupt during a recession. But what's the issue with precious metals like gold?

I agree that Bitcoin looks like a good investment for the troubled times. But too much dependacy on Bitcoin is not wise. I am worried that Bitcoin has now become an exchange traded fund. It shouldn't have!



That's how you get idea the btc prices lows are protected.
The whales have locked in lows but that's not the case with real estate.
Look at my 2024 btc price lows and highs prediction. Quite accurate.

Not just btc but all the other assets also what you can trade on exchangers and markets gold oil agriculture and so more also the forex currencies and sp500.
The real estate with REIT are all most like protected by whales.

That's why i tell you how important is to follow to whales and their actions.
Only reason Im in btc because of when i do things what the elite does it Im safe and wealthy together with them.

I have no other ideas than just money and profit.
The blackrock vanguard vaneck cboe nyse are like GODs. They rule our world and i don't mind as long as i get profit from their activities and i learn everything about them.
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My bold call 80% real estate crash.
The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.
The art and Luxury goods and watches also about to fall.

Btc,gold,oil,Silver,and all the other assets listed on exchangers and have a lot funds to lock the lowest prices Are much Safer.

Now it's time to learn hard way If you don't understood markets you better not even spend money to buy home without learning first how the finances and market works.

Silver i would'nt buy because germany producing silver a lot and there is more suplly of Silver than demand.

the whales using the "falling locks" specially for btc so that's btc is far more safe Investment now than real estate. Becouse assets wich traded on exchangers have only limited downsides priced in monthly lows and highs.



And how exactly the air will be out of the economy?? And who will do it?

If real estates crashes, all banks will be crashed to dust as well. Art, car and luxury goods have a very different customer base who can be left aside because they are wealthy class people and usually do not goes bankrupt during a recession. But what's the issue with precious metals like gold?

I agree that Bitcoin looks like a good investment for the troubled times. But too much dependacy on Bitcoin is not wise. I am worried that Bitcoin has now become an exchange traded fund. It shouldn't have!

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My bold call 80% real estate crash.
The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.
The art and Luxury goods and watches also about to fall.

Btc,gold,oil,Silver,and all the other assets listed on exchangers and have a lot funds to lock the lowest prices Are much Safer.

Now it's time to learn hard way If you don't understood markets you better not even spend money to buy home without learning first how the finances and market works.

Silver i would'nt buy because germany producing silver a lot and there is more suplly of Silver than demand.

the whales using the "falling locks" specially for btc so that's btc is far more safe Investment now than real estate. Becouse assets wich traded on exchangers have only limited downsides priced in monthly lows and highs.


Well for me real estate depends on which specific country you are in since it is not like crypto wherein Bitcoin falls others will follow. Real estate also depends on the cause of crash but if you mean war then yeah no doubt about that. I actually selected three assets to hold on to for my long term investments namely Bitcoin, precious metals and real estate and I know I am able to get all of it in the near future. All of em were future proof so I think it's all good.
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Now it's time to learn hard way If you don't understood markets you better not even spend money to buy home without learning first how the finances and market works.


Of course only a very rich man would spend his money blindly on something. When investing whether in crypto, stocks, luxury products or real estate you always have to be aware of the current market situation. Even some investments that are relatively stable still have their best and worst times so as an investor, you are going to want to get maximum profit.

Make sure that you are coming in to the market the right time and also check if you are financially ready to be investing
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My bold call 80% real estate crash.
The assets wich are not traded on exchangers like cars and real estate Are by default like NFT the price goes up only If someone will buy with higher price.
The art and Luxury goods and watches also about to fall.

Btc,gold,oil,Silver,and all the other assets listed on exchangers and have a lot funds to lock the lowest prices Are much Safer.

Now it's time to learn hard way If you don't understood markets you better not even spend money to buy home without learning first how the finances and market works.

Silver i would'nt buy because germany producing silver a lot and there is more suplly of Silver than demand.

the whales using the "falling locks" specially for btc so that's btc is far more safe Investment now than real estate. Becouse assets wich traded on exchangers have only limited downsides priced in monthly lows and highs.

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