Topic: Let's be real here about countries economics (Read 121 times)

The greatest issue is not the language by itself, but the random nature of their thought process which makes it very difficult to follow the points they are trying to make, especially since there are some easy to spot factual errors on their post, which will bring mistaken arguments and conclusions, and when adding they expressed all of this on a wall of text instead of just a few paragraphs, it is not surprising it is difficult to understand the points they are trying to make.

I support getting more independent of China, but actually, China is very important in global manufacturing. Take anything you own, and you're very likely to find "Made in China" note on most of those things.
Europe is a very diverse and broadly defined region, so it can't be summarized in one sentence. Russia has natural resources, but so does the Middle East, and so does the US. Also, it's the kind of resources we must globally be moving away from if we don't want climate change to get much worse pretty fast. As for Ukraine, it is important for agriculture, but some countries actually don't like it (for example, Poland has been organizing boycotts to ban Ukrainian products from getting into Poland).
Overall, I think op is oversimplifying things and not taking important factors into consideration.

There are many countries whose economy has been ruined due to war and yes I don't think China can win one USA and like I said wars have destroyed many nation I don't think any nation which is occupying lands of other will be able to flourish ever as USA can take up the issue of Chinese Uyghur Muslim and it's treatment and I feel china can go down anytime a situation has created lot of enemies and India will try to replace it due to its friendly relationship with lost of the powerful nations.

I don't think, China can win over USA in terms of good economy in their countries, because it has be long USA have be dominating over China to be the most popular and influencial country to many countries to transact business and other things that is bringing development to USA. Russian is another country that was doing well to have a good economy before the war came to reduced them to some level, which it will take them some years before they can come back to their normal economy in the country, and they are depending on China products and influence to sustain their economy. Ukraine is another country that was trying to be in a competition with China, Russia and USA, but war has made their economy to collapse, and USA are the major backbone of Ukraine to survive through their products and influence.

The way you are speaking tells me that your observation might not be completely objective. There are different factors to consider if we were to categorize countries in a loser and winner sides. Not all losers should partner up with winners and I am not even completely sure whether your perception of losers and winners are correct.

Countries have different strengths and weaknesses that I do not think you really mentioned which makes the whole list a little invalid in my opinion.

The whole text is too long. You should include a “TLDR” section or a short summary of everything you just said. I think this is the summary well I didn’t read it all.

I think your standard is their economy and currency, no? I will disagree about China as it is one of the countries still with quite a good economic state. They are exporting lots of products all over the world. Experts say that China is headed into the loser side as you may say but right now I don’t think they should be considered to be in the loser side.

OP Is English your native language? Your idea to discuss the real economic status of so many countries is interesting, but your English writing skills could use some real improvement.

You are quite confused.
Sweden is part of the EU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_state_of_the_European_Union
Russia might be a winner, its citizens won't share your view.
Europeans might be winners although most won't share your view.
China we can repeat the exercise.

Let's be very real and there is too much talking how important is china but lets be very very real and honest here about reality.
China...we need made in china actually we don't we can do life without.
Europe: well well it's providing nothing but some countries like spain the fruits so food while a lot european countries don't provide nothing much they reap the benefits of one single economic currency called euro.
Russia: yes yes let's be honest the natural resources.
Ukraine: all Europe need and other world the food the wheat is there so yes yes yes we need !
USA well USA need itself china need and europe need if not dealing with russia.
Canada: well Canada should pay higher food and higher prices since USA Will be first priorority and Canada competation Will be USA the Canada economy and life Will be a lot more better If USA would be weaker USA will have all privileges front of trading partners like japan and china asia India Canada might dream about USA position.
And UK ? Well well the biggest thing from UK are Queen and kingdom lol who needs that for surviving or everyday needs ? Well nobody so it's just matter of time when world Will tell to UK you want to trade with us then lower your currency nobody don't want UK high value currency so that for no reason UK can be over other countries currencies so others don't like that.

Canada need to find the way how to get out from the USA shadow and Canada people might see bigger inflation and lower Canada currency value becouse brazil Mexico china and others Will tell to Canada we don't want your worthless currency go find where to exchange your worthless currency only USA will take it but with not good rate Because Canada needs USA.
So here are 3 losers on the block china uk Canada those 3 countries need to lower their own currency in order to deal with others and even to find trading partner  
Canada want to buy something then canada need to go and exchange first CAD but who want to take cad....only those who want Canada oil...but USA don't like that If Canada taking USA customers so it not gona happening Canada can Do loser exchange only with CAD it means CAD must go lower and lower If anyone want even to deal.
UK well world don't need your Queen and what really UK can offer that russia or USA give something to UK ?
So UK need to play and speculate a lot and need to give good reasons others to deal with UK ...eu seen that UK is just Queen and nothing useful so they did BREXIT eu had enough UK sucking life blood out of europe.
Ireland well they discovered they are worthless country too so they Made corporate taxes Zero that's why USA companies now register in ireland.

In Europe there is a lot losers countries also who does not produce even enough things for themselfes hey but if they are together with Europe union they can get benefits of other countries utilities and resouces.

Norway Are in well position in Europe and Norway want that russia Will not deal with Europe so Norway can provide resouces.
So so NOK currency can go up and eu need that directly.

Sweden: well this one don't provide nothing it's useless and in order to trade they need to lower also their useless currency called sweden crone

But USA russia and Europe Are in trouble when all the losers will join together the China UK Canada sweden the biggest losers and If they join forces it Will be damgerous for USA russia and Europe.
Russia and china cant be friends of China Because china knows russia use china just becouse the russia got more things the losers can make allience with other losers so china and Canada can secretly working and Also the UK and sweden Also the switzerland can join them as loser as world don't need switzerland at all.


If anyone have losers in mind more then give comment
So far my losers pointless countries list:
China, Uk,sweden, switzerland,
The winners list
USA russia emirates australia latin america ukraine and europe

The losers knows that winners want only deal with them to dump into their country something with lower rate currency exchange and so but the losers might want to secretly to join together and start going against winners countries so china UK Canada and sweden switzerland agents might work together to start take down russia usa and Europe and emirates power ...well they can make emirates working on their side , i guess here something for USA CIA to check the loser countries might cooking something together Canada don't like USA and China want power from USA and Uk don't like russia.
So china Canada Will deal with USA and UK sweden and switzerland Will deal with russia.
Loser countries Will hate most USA and Russia powers.
USA is not Canada UK and sweden friend the losers hate usa power and they like to see fall of USA neither they like russia also sweden UK Canada switzerland don't like Norway because Norway it's another winner here.
Losers dream are to make Canada number oil seller and UK Will be benefit of that selling Canada oil to Europe or Even better UK china Canada sweden switzerland Will join the forces to take over russian oil and gas but If they cant do that st least they try to take ukraine fully Under them.
And they might try to support china to win over USA so losers want USA and russia get away from their goals with Europe it's easy to deal for them once they get usa and russia out of the way.