Topic: Let's change the perspective and stop plagiarism. (Read 331 times)

I don't think it's the same case here, it does seem a lot like merit fishing but he did the opposite, rather than try to persuade poeple with a lot of mumbo jumbos to improve creativity or make another half a page of useless advice on how one should write proper contact, stuff that unfortunately still gets merits even now, he clearly tried to defend plagiarism. I took just a brief look at the accounts lovesmayfamilis mentioned in that topic and the resemblance in the structure of the phrases is quite similar to what the OP uses here, probably a huge language barrier that keeps him from making phrases and sticking to short sentences like an old telegram letter.

Just out of pure curiosity I'm going to bookmark OP's profile, check in a few weeks his posts, I have a feeling I already know the ending.

Anyhow, the funny part:



Source

Source.

Much creativity! No stealing! Such style!  

Seems like that. I think that you are right. After quite some time, the op didn't seem to visit this thread again like replying some of the post in this thread and stating the real intention of this thread so, I would support that op created this thread as a desperate measure to gather some merit not thinking that this kind of way to represent this topic is kind of harsh fot newbies and those who did plagiarized but not on purpose though many have banned because of it since it is one of the forum rules. At first when I saw it I was going to sent smerit but decided to wait for some time and yes I am glad I did it as what my guts tell that this person is aiming to gain merit this way.

I tried so much to know the core purpose of this thread, first I saw it as a motivational thread aimed at discouraging plagiarists, but when I saw Lovesmayfamilis, I became more confuse as to relate the present threat to the one created by Lovesmayfamilis days ago.
It seems that part of your thread argued that everyone has plagerised in one way or the other. That is not correct, ideas may be similar, but individual works are unique.
When I joined this forum and understood the consequences of plagiarism, I took it upon myself to even advice my then fellow newbies about it. But, later I understood that plagiarism just like stealing is part of humanity, no matter how often you crusade against it, it must surely exist.

Etc.

He is just trying to fish some merit. This type of post is always looking for the same thing, although they are more common in the B&H section, what surprises me is that no one has fallen for it and has given it merit.

I guess many members (especially merit sources) are hesitant to give merits to articles that are merely copy-paste without any commentary or analysis. I believe this is why some members plagiarize and post without citation and the source link. It is even worse when they try to hide this act using obfuscation and various other tricks.

Well, I don't see how putting a source link to an article one copied from will debar it from getting merited if it's good and those who read it have merits to share. For me, it doesn't make any difference. If I find any post or comment interesting and I've merit to spare, I don't hesitate to do so, whether copied or original. I believe it is so for many others too. There's no absoluteness or perfection in any situation. If there's, we wouldn't be having projects fork or contract swap and migration as a way of improving on what is on ground. There's always room for improvement. If there's anyone outrightly copying others' articles and not crediting them because they feel doing so belittles them, they should scale pass that low mentality fence now.

The essence of plagiarism is causing other's work as your own. Once you copy another person's work, information, or study without giving proper acknowledgement, you are committing plagiarism as if you are stealing someone else's work blatantly. Like what most have mentioned, the rule on plagiarism in this forum is clear and unambiguous. It is very straight forward and such is common knowledge that whenever you attempt to plagiarize, you will have to suffer the consequences.

Again, I think it is mostly on users who chase with merits on the reason on why they plagiarize. As much as their intention is noble and innocent, one cannot excuse himself from such ignorance of the rules stated.

That's a horrible way to look at things. The issue isn't to not imitate at all. In this case, it isn't imitation but complete lifting. You've to credit the source of your imitation, so to speak. If you leave out the link to the source it means you're passing it off as yours. It's property theft when that happens. The forum is clear on that as plagiarism. However, when you imitate a work and internalize the concept and then create something out from that idea, it can safely pass off as yours. Henry Ford created his automobiles from the idea of getting a faster horse. It's an imitation of a concept. It's the same way aeroplanes were created from birds. No issues. But when you copy someone else's work, endeavour to put them in the credit. It's a simple way of showing gratitude.

Sounds like poetry on crack (or worse). 


Yeap, probably another one of his alt accounts "bites the dust". Good job lovesmayfamilis!

Sounds like a poetry, are you one in real life 😉

It seems something against @lovesmayfamilis as the OP specifically mentioned
That's exactly what I had in mind. All the pain inside is because lovesmayfamilis ruined his account.

People always say don't drink while you are driving but we need to extend that to don't do crack while posting on Bitcointalk with automated translation tools. While reading that "thing" in the OP, I kept thinking: get to the point, get to the point, tell us what this is all about. And you never do. It's just waste of space. My guess is that one of those accounts in lovesmayfamilis' post is one of your alt-accounts that got banned and now you are trying to say that plagiarizing is not that bad. Just add the source to the information you take from someone else and everything will be ok. 

What in the name of holy hell are you blabbering about?  Your post reads like it was processed through a translator program written by someone who doesn't know how to code correctly--but even aside from that, what little I could understand doesn't seem to make a coherent point.

If you're trying to make some vague argument that everyone plagiarizes because nobody's thoughts are completely original, that's a failure from the get-go.  It's an argument that would be made by a highschooler caught cheating on a research paper.  "Everyone does it!" is what I'm gathering is being said, am I in the ball park or what?

Plagiarism isn't carrying on the work of others--especially not on bitcointalk.  Usually what it boils down to is members being too lazy or illiterate to write their own posts (and get paid for them) that they break out the standard shitposting, bounty-hunting keyboard:



I think that model is a best-seller in certain parts of the world.

The account has been sleeping since December, waking up and changing the password, jumped to write this stream of consciousness. Why? OP, tell us which of your accounts has been banned? Why such hysteria? Why did you remove your post from Ratimov's board? What did you expect? https://ninjastic.space/post/59506986
I hope you have the strength to explain in more detail the meaning of this stream of consciousness. I'm starting to worry about your psychological state. And yes, walk in small steps, so you will walk much more. 

Thats not plagirism really , thats continue a work that is already done.
If you say that work is yours that already have be done without any mention of the creator thats plagirism .

Thats the biggest fault you can make , why you want to imitate someone when you can be just yourself ?
There should be also not a single thought about what you want or can imitate , find yourself and your way.

It is a long topic but in my opinion, it is unnecessary because there are abundant topics on plagiarism.

Welcome there

• Plagiarsism QA topics. I don't think new topics about plagiarism are necessary
• [Guide] Searching effectively. If you know how to search effectively, you can find available answers, then think whether you should create a new topic or not.

Did you read the OP in that thread, the topic was basically made just to draw the attention of the mods to those cases as it had taken a while to handle, i don't really understand what you mean by "ruining your beautiful account", and i doubt the OP was frustrated cause it happens every now and then, if mods miss something, you can just make a topic to draw their attention, or ask if you the reporter actually got things wrong. Having said that, it does not look like you fully understand how the forum works on some issues, it's much better you use the search button and read as much as you can, rather than making this sort of threads that are difficult to define.

What's this thread for?. I think this is just a motivational thread where it is explained why plagiarism is not good for you and for this forum. Users can report users who plagiarized a content just like what lovesmayfamilis did as you have take a screenshot of it. As what Upgrade00 said everyone can open a thread and post a content that another person own the content or topic but the user must add a reference link to where you get it.

I fail to understand the purpose of this thread, the forum rules on plagiarism is not ambiguous;
• Users do not get banned for sharing content of others as long as it is referenced or indicated that is a quote,
• If there is enough original thought and content put in, it doesn't count as plagiarism,
• Cases are handled case by case and leniency shown in different scenarios,

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Users can report to the mods based on their personal view and mods can decide on what action to take, that does not warrant a thread. Users who report are not the problem, those who break the rules are.

Today, I will talk to you about a different world. I will share my vision with you as much as I can today. If I make a mistake here, everyone will look at it with for giveness.

So why delay, let's get started:
Keep copying until you succeed, until people see you the way you want them to.
But, you have to remember, you can see the big ones from here. They too, like you, have come to the present state by standing up and falling down again and again in the face of that position of yours. They have imitated just like you. They start with fakes. And those fakes have become so beautiful that they are slowly becoming real.
The thing is, the whole Bitcointalk.org is a platform. Creative work is a theater. The stage is the threads of your Bitcointalk.org. Your desk or your workstation. Costume is your account, where you can think while looking at your work and experience and your post. And pop is your stuff, instrument, medium. The script is time.

Keep trying until you can master something before you learn it. No one here learns from before. Those who come are using their creativity to imitate and create their position in a new way.

When we want to do or learn something. We consult with people, Who have a good knowledge of it and we learn by imitating them. Here it means to imitate. It's like opening different parts of a car and seeing how they work.
We are talking about practice here, not plagiarism. Plagirism is to carry on the work of others in one's own name.

When Salvador Dali said, "Those who refuse to imitate cannot create anything."


First you need to understand who you want to imitate and what you want to imitate.
Stealing from someone is "plagiarism". Stealing from thousands of people is "research". If you are influenced by only one, people will say you are the next one. And if you are influenced by a hundred people, people will tell you how "basic" you are.
What to imitate? It's just a matter of thinking whether you steal the style or steal the idea behind the style. By doing this you will see that in some way you will be able to peek inside their minds. The real truth is that they have assimilated their point of view. If you just copy someone else's post from the outside and understand that there is no source inside it, then you will only remain in imitation.

You have become a basic person yourself since you started to use your creativity from everyone. In this way your personality will be revealed in its original form and you will gradually move towards improvement.
Use your creativity and your intelligence to strengthen your position. We all promise to look good by eliminating fake accounts and plaza reason.

You don't have to be a part of Plasarism to start Bitcointalk. Keep trying to learn something for yourself. Don't let the secondary of unnecessary plagiarism be abandoned here.

@lovesmayfamilis Sir, open the account of each of the plagiarism gula marks I have seen. You are well on your way to moving forward with your accounts. But I do not understand why you posted the copy. How you are ruining your beautiful accounts and getting frustrated. All you can do is move forward with small steps, then something good will happen. It will be better for you if you leave out this plaza ism completely. Always work with caution.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.59430082

@lovesmayfamilis sir did not want to harm you sir just point out your mistakes you learn from this and keep your feet on good steps then you can survive here for a long time you can recognize this world as your own.

Everyone Talk Care. Thank you 😊