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June 19, 2018, 08:47:12 AM
#32
We cant less the risk of kyc, no edit must be done. For me just do kyc for a ICO which 100% you do believe real and scam. Or can be avoid bounty that has a kyc program.  Yes, there is a risk behind that kyc and its hard to determine which are the best ICO and no possibility of using our identity. Dont easily fall in a bounty campaign, use the internet, gathered some data and decide if you want to do kyc with them
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June 19, 2018, 08:32:53 AM
#31
I will try to study KYC and update this thread. Thank you for your concerns.
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June 15, 2018, 12:20:44 PM
#30
You should never send your personal documents to untrusted individuales, i mean it's crypto we all got to crypto because it protects our privacy, so why should we give it out  just to have some worthless tokens ?

If people start to ignore every projects that require us to do kyc, soon or later they will be gone and won't hurt us as crypto lovers. Anonyminty is everything and I don't believe that our data will be safe with them.
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June 15, 2018, 11:51:06 AM
#29
KYC or Know Your Customer procedure is now a requirement on most ICOs. It is used to check customers or investors and also for them to comply with AML or Anti-Money Laundering Laws.

Most of us don't want to do KYC for reasons that it might leak or endanger our privacy. But I saw procedures that may make our data and personal documents still safe.

What I want for this post is to actually build a list of what are positive with KYC on the customers or investors view/side or what they can do to protect themselves. Let me add one;

1. You can HIDE your identity numbers in the images of the Documents you will send. You can only show;
   a. First Name
   b. Last Name
   c. Address
   d. Nationality
These are the only data needed. This will somehow protect your personal referencing data and protect against some unwanted legal usage.


Help me build this list guys! As we all know we will need to adopt with this kinds of regulation. We all want Bitcoin to succeed and for that, I believe it needs to be legal.

In the main dignities, crypto currency, always indicated confidentiality. To find the target bandits enough: name, surname, nationality and date of birth. With the help of these data, you can easily find any person.
Passing their personal data, no responsibility for security is not.
newbie
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June 15, 2018, 11:21:54 AM
#28
I don't think hiding those verifiable numbers  will be accepted by companies or project demanding kyc. These numbers on it is the one to be use to trace if the bearer of the ID is truly the person he claim to be.
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June 15, 2018, 10:50:51 AM
#27
KYC or Know Your Customer procedure is now a requirement on most ICOs. It is used to check customers or investors and also for them to comply with AML or Anti-Money Laundering Laws.

Most of us don't want to do KYC for reasons that it might leak or endanger our privacy. But I saw procedures that may make our data and personal documents still safe.

What I want for this post is to actually build a list of what are positive with KYC on the customers or investors view/side or what they can do to protect themselves. Let me add one;

1. You can HIDE your identity numbers in the images of the Documents you will send. You can only show;
   a. First Name
   b. Last Name
   c. Address
   d. Nationality
These are the only data needed. This will somehow protect your personal referencing data and protect against some unwanted legal usage.


Help me build this list guys! As we all know we will need to adopt with this kinds of regulation. We all want Bitcoin to succeed and for that, I believe it needs to be legal.
  But in some ICO projects, they do not accept such type of KYC. They need a full image because they are afraid we use photoshop software and the excuse for us to provide full information.
But in return, you'll get a fair amount of money from the campaign. We can do nothing but accept the rule.
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Blackjack.fun
June 15, 2018, 09:48:49 AM
#26

No serious service in this world is going to accept a scanned copy that was tampered with but cutting parts from it.
None!!!!!

I really can't find any supporting blog or documents for the number 1 in the list. I have seen in some (about 30%) of the ICOs I study that they REQUIRE hiding of identifying number in the ID before submission. So I guess this is a real thing?


I found this just now, in a website here http://www.austrac.gov.au/part-b-amlctf-program-customer-due-diligence-procedures

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"a reporting entity could verify the customer’s name by referring to their driver’s licence that shows the customer’s first name, middle initial, and family name. "

But it says nothing about the covering of some data.

Of course, because you can't cover that data. It's common sense.
The article you point out clearly specifies the name:

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For example, a reporting entity could verify the customer’s name by referring to their driver’s licence that shows the customer’s first name, middle initial, and family name.

Following the logic that it only asks for the full name, you could send them an ID with a photo, right???

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The documentation-based safe harbour procedures involve:
an original or certified copy of a primary photographic identification document, or both:

You know what original means? It means something that hasn't been tampered with.
legendary
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June 10, 2018, 01:34:45 PM
#25
Your first name and last name is already enough for most hackers to target you. If these people hack these centralized services and they get their hands on this information, then they can track you and steal your identity or they know you are a Crypto currency holder. They follow the money and these KYC/AML infringe on your private identity and your private financial data.

Let's be very cautious on the indirect attack on our privacy and the unmasking of Crypto currency users.
Very well said. Only knowing up a persons full name can really already put you on risk to unmasked you and might used on other impersonation.Suggestions posted on OP arent bad after all but same as other people mentioned above most project or Team do ask KYC do need a clear and uncovered picture or image of your ID which means hiding something will still lead you failing up such procedure.
legendary
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June 10, 2018, 01:19:26 PM
#24
It's good that someone made a tutorial how to do KYC, I also noticed how much confusion it makes among new people who never done it before. It's good, but this thread should be updated and nicely arranged, for new people to see I'm first post what kyc is, how to do it, and what kind of problems people have.
KYC is becoming normal thing in crypto, especially with new services and government regulations. For people who lice under the grid there will always be escape with some coins, but who wish to participate in new projects must do kyc, most of the new projects asking for that.with
newbie
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June 10, 2018, 01:05:40 PM
#23
to apply for all data kyc must be complete and detail should not have a picture that is less clear, if the data is correct then our kyc must pass. a lot of kyc fail because the picture is less clear.
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June 10, 2018, 12:38:10 PM
#22
The safest way is to not to send your banking details as proof of address , but you can use a gas payment bill or electricity bill. It is safer than revealing your account details through your bank statement.
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June 10, 2018, 10:33:33 AM
#21
some ICO KYC procedures require Full scanned ID without any blur or tampered parts then another picture of yourself holding your scanned ID with a required colored background they are so demanding you are not going to pass the requirement if you did that suggestion worst part if that is an airdrop campaign giving out a few bucks? Is identity worth risking? nope, be careful of sending personal info.
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June 10, 2018, 07:23:41 AM
#20
How to do KYC safely- You don't do it, if everyone stops doing KYC these people will stop asking for it.  don't trust random strangers over the internet with your information.
legendary
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June 10, 2018, 07:14:34 AM
#19
Most often requirements include a rule about no editing for uploaded  image. So this can't be implemented in most cases
newbie
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June 10, 2018, 07:05:10 AM
#18
I have encountered that in some airdrops.. Filling up the KYC.. But we have our choice to choose if we want it.. We refuse it of course.. But most of the airdrops that required KYC are those who offer a good prize..
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June 10, 2018, 06:56:25 AM
#17
Your proposal is good but I dont think some ICO, etc. will accept that or your kyc will be denied, I'm hoping theres a list of fully verified ico by SEC to minimize the risk of losing our data but still many hackers out there can stole our data its a matter of time if they found out a hole.
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June 10, 2018, 06:22:29 AM
#16
You should never send your personal documents to untrusted individuales, i mean it's crypto we all got to crypto because it protects our privacy, so why should we give it out  just to have some worthless tokens ?
You've got a point but it doesn't apply to anyone i guess it's good for anybody who wants to risk it even as selling their most important information about their lives it's upto them not ours so giving harsh opinions are out of the line take note not all tokens are trash some have greatly produced large sum of money by spending or investing through it also it's not worthless if you put a great amount of money in it and watch your target move. Of course all of this will work somehow if the site is totally legit and if not you're doomed from the very beginning.
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June 10, 2018, 05:35:53 AM
#15
Kyc is necessary for many projects now, what is the general point of this? to avoid the multi accounts? or what?
i dont see any problem with it, but i hope they wont lose the data base
sr. member
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June 10, 2018, 04:13:33 AM
#14
I think it is a good idea though it might not worked. Because the idea of personal data through KYC is to identify the participants. And if there is a slight that is missing, the process of identifying might be unsuccessful.
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June 09, 2018, 09:56:09 AM
#13
KYC or Know Your Customer procedure is now a requirement on most ICOs. It is used to check customers or investors and also for them to comply with AML or Anti-Money Laundering Laws.

Most of us don't want to do KYC for reasons that it might leak or endanger our privacy. But I saw procedures that may make our data and personal documents still safe.

What I want for this post is to actually build a list of what are positive with KYC on the customers or investors view/side or what they can do to protect themselves. Let me add one;

1. You can HIDE your identity numbers in the images of the Documents you will send. You can only show;
   a. First Name
   b. Last Name
   c. Address
   d. Nationality
These are the only data needed. This will somehow protect your personal referencing data and protect against some unwanted legal usage.


Help me build this list guys! As we all know we will need to adopt with this kinds of regulation. We all want Bitcoin to succeed and for that, I believe it needs to be legal.

And what about the bill: "the dignity of the crypto currency - confidentiality"?
If someone wants to distribute their GDPR with KYC it is his desire. Then these personal data can be transferred to anyone, including robbers.
There must be one authorized representative (the company with a guarantee of reliability), which can own information and confirm, if necessary, other companies.
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June 09, 2018, 09:13:39 AM
#12

No serious service in this world is going to accept a scanned copy that was tampered with but cutting parts from it.
None!!!!!

I really can't find any supporting blog or documents for the number 1 in the list. I have seen in some (about 30%) of the ICOs I study that they REQUIRE hiding of identifying number in the ID before submission. So I guess this is a real thing?


I found this just now, in a website here http://www.austrac.gov.au/part-b-amlctf-program-customer-due-diligence-procedures

Quote
"a reporting entity could verify the customer’s name by referring to their driver’s licence that shows the customer’s first name, middle initial, and family name. "

But it says nothing about the covering of some data.
legendary
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Blackjack.fun
June 07, 2018, 09:28:06 AM
#11
Most of us don't want to do KYC for reasons that it might leak or endanger our privacy. But I saw procedures that may make our data and personal documents still safe.

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Everything you say below that, about hiding numbers on your scanned documents is wrong.

If there is an ICO that says they follow KYC requirements and they do accept your card with blurred info, then run away as that is not legal and they have no idea about what real KYC is, they just do that to fake trust.

No serious service in this world is going to accept a scanned copy that was tampered with but cutting parts from it.
None!!!!!

Besides, in less than a few years in most of the EU, scanned documents alone will no longer be enough for KYC/AML requirements as you will need a legalized copy from a notary.  Grin
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June 07, 2018, 09:25:25 AM
#10
is this true that KYC only need the first name, last name, nationality, and address? if yws i think we can hide other privacy as you said like the number of our identity, oh is photo is important too for KYC? i dont know about KYC at all because every time i do KYC i only scan my identity card only and send t them
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June 07, 2018, 09:17:31 AM
#9
It is useful cus KYC is required anywhere and we should know how to use it properly
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June 07, 2018, 09:13:04 AM
#8
KYC or Know Your Customer procedure is now a requirement on most ICOs. It is used to check customers or investors and also for them to comply with AML or Anti-Money Laundering Laws.

Most of us don't want to do KYC for reasons that it might leak or endanger our privacy. But I saw procedures that may make our data and personal documents still safe.

What I want for this post is to actually build a list of what are positive with KYC on the customers or investors view/side or what they can do to protect themselves. Let me add one;

1. You can HIDE your identity numbers in the images of the Documents you will send. You can only show;
   a. First Name
   b. Last Name
   c. Address
   d. Nationality
These are the only data needed. This will somehow protect your personal referencing data and protect against some unwanted legal usage.


Help me build this list guys! As we all know we will need to adopt with this kinds of regulation. We all want Bitcoin to succeed and for that, I believe it needs to be legal.

I don't know if we can hide our ID numbers and our photo if filling a KYC.
I've ever submitted a KYC for one of an ICO, buat my ID (driver license) on the photo area is blurred because it was ever damaged by water.
But they reject my KYC, they said it's a scam ID.
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June 07, 2018, 09:10:20 AM
#7
Your first name and last name is already enough for most hackers to target you. If these people hack these centralized services and they get their hands on this information, then they can track you and steal your identity or they know you are a Crypto currency holder. They follow the money and these KYC/AML infringe on your private identity and your private financial data.

Let's be very cautious on the indirect attack on our privacy and the unmasking of Crypto currency users.
newbie
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June 07, 2018, 09:04:53 AM
#6
KYC is the opponent of all crypto currency. Thus, the Crypto-currency is once again wanted to take control. And control is the enemy of everything as we see in this world!
sr. member
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June 07, 2018, 08:46:31 AM
#5
Most of the KYC procedures need full-image of your documents while covering or hiding some part of the documents can might failing the KYC.
yes, many kyc need full_image, how solve the problem?
i think u must select the trust  ico and do not part in untrusted projects.
jr. member
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June 07, 2018, 08:41:12 AM
#4
You should never send your personal documents to untrusted individuales, i mean it's crypto we all got to crypto because it protects our privacy, so why should we give it out  just to have some worthless tokens ?
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June 07, 2018, 08:37:56 AM
#3
Most of the KYC procedures need full-image of your documents while covering or hiding some part of the documents can might failing the KYC.
newbie
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June 07, 2018, 08:27:50 AM
#2
I'm new here and I'm still in the learning stage. KYC is new and I'm glad to know that there are some people here that giving idea and knowledge about this bitcoin. In this case I can enhance my idea fast and properly on this forum.
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June 07, 2018, 08:03:29 AM
#1
Will be updated soon!

KYC or Know Your Customer procedure is now a requirement on most ICOs. It is used to check customers or investors and also for them to comply with AML or Anti-Money Laundering Laws.

Most of us don't want to do KYC for reasons that it might leak or endanger our privacy. But I saw procedures that may make our data and personal documents still safe.

What I want for this post is to actually build a list of what are positive with KYC on the customers or investors view/side or what they can do to protect themselves. Let me add one;

1. You can HIDE your identity numbers in the images of the Documents you will send. You can only show;
   a. First Name
   b. Last Name
   c. Address
   d. Nationality
These are the only data needed. This will somehow protect your personal referencing data and protect against some unwanted legal usage.


Help me build this list guys! As we all know we will need to adopt with this kinds of regulation. We all want Bitcoin to succeed and for that, I believe it needs to be legal.
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