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October 04, 2019, 03:58:59 PM
#48
There are varying reasons which I have analysed over an year as to why Indians are not posting in the sub-section dedicated for us :
[1] Some say "They are afraid of the government and if posting in Indian board would land them up in jail" : The IPs are associated only with theymos and it's literally a parallel universe possibility that we would all be caught for using bitcoin and the government would push us in jail.
Thank you for bringing this up here, i was talking about this earlier in this thread about some responses i saw earlier and some thought i was declaring my loyalty towards theymos  Tongue.
We live in a country where things are twisted to suite their needs, i am talking about politicians  Wink. I did not have the time to dig who posted that in this forum, i usually read everything that is posted when i get time but to search the content at a later time will be a task.

As legendster pointed out in kabit9 thread,  not everyone who are contributing to the global boards are willing to reveal their nationality and indeed are cowards by just blending with the first world people in global boards.
Everyone have their individual thoughts on what they like to do and i respect their decision. You cannot force anyone to do anything, if they chose to participate in this local board they can and no one is stopping them and no one is forcing either.

Guess we all should stop saying that the Indian board needs at least one MS.  Grin
If the merit source is encouraging people to post better content and giving out merits then i will stop saying that  Tongue Grin.
The fact is i really care less about meriting people for being active but if it helps in making this forum better, so be it.


To everyone who is complaining that there is not much content in this sub forum, you are welcome to start interesting topics and threads, rather than complaining about others, start yourself and be active and everything will fall in place.
when it comes to spam i will try my best to report everything i see as all of my reports are successful till now.
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October 04, 2019, 06:28:58 AM
#47
As legendster pointed out in kabit9 thread, not everyone (who are contributing to the global boards) are willing to reveal their nationality and indeed are cowards by just blending with the first world people in global boards.

There are varying reasons which I have analysed over an year as to why Indians are not posting in the sub-section dedicated for us :

[1] Some say "They are afraid of the government and if posting in Indian board would land them up in jail" : The IPs are associated only with theymos and it's literally a parallel universe possibility that we would all be caught for using bitcoin and the government would push us in jail.

[2] The topics doesn't generate enough interest and the board is infested with spams : The older topics have worn out and outdated, we should be responsible for creating new topics and reporting them until the topic gets pinned by global mods. IMO the board is 80% free from spam and there is always a decent discussion going through in all the sub-boards.

[3] Eventhough bounties are an absolute waste of time and energy Indian bounty hunters are still hunting for them. They can never be rectified upon, and should be neglected from contributing anything for the betterment of the board.

Note : For past 1 month I have been speaking with Gabru [IndiaBits admin] and there were a few questions put forward by me on why the prominent knowledgable IndiaBits members were not involving themselves in Bitcointalk. The answer was that, the quality of the board was diluted and there doesn't seem to be anyone moderating the board. But on other hand, theymos would never appoint a moderator without much noise and the prominent forums members who left the forum would never return back without the appointment of a moderator.

P.S I am in the verge of creating a topic which will brainstorm various ideas from everyone which could subsequently pave the way for a better board. People like Bitlover10 should start contributing again in the regional language sections and people like legenster should bring back their 2013 sort of topics again which will gain more interest towards a better discussion.

As always a Youtuber says, "People won't watch your videos initially, but at one point of time in future if you don't stop posting videos there would be significant views". This might be the only way which will bring back the Indian section as how it was during the Benson era.
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October 04, 2019, 02:29:48 AM
#46
Yeah we only have ONE lonely little Merit Source. We surely need another with preferably a bigger bag than the bare minimum.

Regardless, I guess we can also assume we need something for people to talk about here, without that, there won't be anyone to send merits to and it'll soon become a circle jerking club..

So all I can do is perhaps share an idea with people like yourself (amish), eality, hiesenberg, etc and hope you guys can find the energy and motivation in yourself to act upon those ideas.
That is i think the basic issue rather than just the lack of merit sources.

Right now, we simply don't have sufficiently diversified activity that would justify the size of our population, much like the Olympics. Much of it is due to the legal uncertainty. We do not have too many of the developer kind visiting the forum and talking about mining, mining pools, potential use cases, developer activity etc.
I don't think that the mods are interested till we sort this out and get more people interested in this sort of thing AND to find sufficient incentive for them to be a part of the Indian community. Thanks for your offer legendster. Will get back to you.

I am awaiting for people to contribute since I have more than 15 smerits left with me to giveaway to everyone and help the Indians in ranking up. But to the contrary there doesn't seem to be not much of them posting anything really good here and subsequently there is far less activity in this board to spread out the smerits. I would be bumping the application only when I am in need of additional smerits and whenever I find some really good quality posts here.

Right Heisenberg. The thing is that there aren't even enough people joining up and being active in the Indian sub to get to at least Member (10 merits). Most of the people posting frequently are the same motley group. This needs to change. Lets bump our heads together so see if we can do something about it.




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October 03, 2019, 09:32:24 PM
#45
Yeah we only have ONE lonely little Merit Source. We surely need another with preferably a bigger bag than the bare minimum.
~snip
Regardless, I guess we can also assume we need something for people to talk about here, without that, there won't be anyone to send merits to and it'll soon become a circle jerking club..

That's the same thing I have observed over the months and have been trying to explain here all this while.
I don't see many posting here. It's just the same group of people who keep posting and replying to the threads.
If the Indian board is just used by a few people who keep posting in most threads then I don't know see it growing to be a bigger community.
We don't need a Merit Source as of now because we already have one but we do need people to actively post in the Indian board.
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October 03, 2019, 02:40:10 PM
#44
No. There is no irrefutable evidence that suggests we have any merit source dedicated to India forum. One guy making some stray statement out of his imagination, does not make it a fact.
Not exactly, no one makes stray statements here and there are irrefutable evidences which suggest we have a merit source dedicated to Indian sub forum. Just dig through various topics in Indian sub-forum you will find out who the source is actually.
What? You have irrefutable evidences and others will dig through the forum? What kinda joke is that? Either provide your irrefutable evidences to the community or STOP making claims that you can not prove!

In other words, he is saying that if you are curious enough then do your own digging instead of asking someone else to dig it for you.

He would have otherwise obliged had you asked nicely, since that is not the case, expect exactly 0 help from him.

idk he might change his mind though.
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October 03, 2019, 01:50:49 PM
#43
No. There is no irrefutable evidence that suggests we have any merit source dedicated to India forum. One guy making some stray statement out of his imagination, does not make it a fact.
Not exactly, no one makes stray statements here and there are irrefutable evidences which suggest we have a merit source dedicated to Indian sub forum. Just dig through various topics in Indian sub-forum you will find out who the source is actually.
What? You have irrefutable evidences and others will dig through the forum? What kinda joke is that? Either provide your irrefutable evidences to the community or STOP making claims that you can not prove!
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October 03, 2019, 12:58:12 PM
#42
Yeah we only have ONE lonely little Merit Source. We surely need another with preferably a bigger bag than the bare minimum.
That's quite a good sarcasm man.  Grin I got to know about this the day I merited the post in which the source has themselves accepted they are indeed a source.

There may be certain queries that why I bump my merit source topic even after knowing there is an Indian source : It's because I don't have any merits left behind to merit a very few merit worthy posts which are being posted here. If I was on a posting streak (something like 15-20 posts per week) I would be facing no difficulties in spreading out the merits to every good post here. But the problem arises when I am inactive in posting and visit the forum only to report spams and merit a few posts.

I am awaiting for people to contribute since I have more than 15 smerits left with me to giveaway to everyone and help the Indians in ranking up. But to the contrary there doesn't seem to be not much of them posting anything really good here and subsequently there is far less activity in this board to spread out the smerits. I would be bumping the application only when I am in need of additional smerits and whenever I find some really good quality posts here.


As for Merit source, I wasn't aware there is one and if your "little" is any hint then I think he's not from India but I could be thinking of someone else than who is actually refered to here.
The merit source is from India and they are pretty much active here in spreading out the merits here.  Grin


If the merit source made their name public, we could conduct a merit campaign,
They made their name public and they are indeed a source of merits.

No. There is no irrefutable evidence that suggests we have any merit source dedicated to India forum. One guy making some stray statement out of his imagination, does not make it a fact.
Not exactly, no one makes stray statements here and there are irrefutable evidences which suggest we have a merit source dedicated to Indian sub forum. Just dig through various topics in Indian sub-forum you will find out who the source is actually.
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October 03, 2019, 11:34:40 AM
#41
@eaLiTy : About merit source

Recently I came across one thread and conversation there clearly suggest that we already have one merit source for Indian board. I don't want to reveal poster's name because it seems to me that s/he doesn't want to come out in the open as an MS, or maybe there are some other reasons.

Guess we all should stop saying that the Indian board needs at least one MS.  Grin
Yeah we only have ONE lonely little Merit Source. We surely need another with preferably a bigger bag than the bare minimum.

No. There is no irrefutable evidence that suggests we have any merit source dedicated to India forum. One guy making some stray statement out of his imagination, does not make it a fact. There may be some global merit sources though, who visits Indian sub-forum, as it mostly runs on English, which is comprehensible to global merit sources.
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October 03, 2019, 09:32:41 AM
#40
Yeah we only have ONE lonely little Merit Source. We surely need another with preferably a bigger bag than the bare minimum.

I couldn't care less about what that guy thinks or wants people to do.

As for Merit source, I wasn't aware there is one and if your "little" is any hint then I think he's not from India but I could be thinking of someone else than who is actually refered to here.

Regardless, I guess we can also assume we need something for people to talk about here, without that, there won't be anyone to send merits to and it'll soon become a circle jerking club..

If the merit source made their name public, we could conduct a merit campaign, something like which was/is done for other local communities here.

Despite earning so much merit, I barely have anything left to send as I have only 3 right now.. sometimes I feel like just ditching everyhing else and dedicate all my time to go ahead and do more for this community, like I used to do, perhaps apply as a MS as well, but the recent events involving members from my own country discourages me to do anything like that.

So all I can do is perhaps share an idea with people like yourself (amish), eality, hiesenberg, etc and hope you guys can find the energy and motivation in yourself to act upon those ideas.
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October 02, 2019, 11:28:48 PM
#39
@eaLiTy : About merit source

Recently I came across one thread and conversation there clearly suggest that we already have one merit source for Indian board. I don't want to reveal poster's name because it seems to me that s/he doesn't want to come out in the open as an MS, or maybe there are some other reasons.

Guess we all should stop saying that the Indian board needs at least one MS.  Grin
Yeah we only have ONE lonely little Merit Source. We surely need another with preferably a bigger bag than the bare minimum.
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September 30, 2019, 03:25:48 PM
#38
~snip

PS: I agree that i took a swipe on you because your statement about Theymos seemed ill-placed.

Be easy on him bro.  Tongue As he said, he was in a party mood and had a few beers on  Grin
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when i wrote this i was on a party mood and had a few beers. 
LOL, I can't even read posts on bitcointalk while I am high. Tried it twice.


There's a simple solution to that. Stop drinking  Grin

After all, we're Indians, we have a history of not being able to handle our drinks.



But lest we divert from this topic, let's not bring this up again. The fact remains that we still need at least a merit source - if not a mod for this community.
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September 19, 2019, 10:29:43 AM
#37
~snip

PS: I agree that i took a swipe on you because your statement about Theymos seemed ill-placed.

Be easy on him bro.  Tongue As he said, he was in a party mood and had a few beers on  Grin
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when i wrote this i was on a party mood and had a few beers. 
LOL, I can't even read posts on bitcointalk while I am high. Tried it twice.
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September 18, 2019, 02:32:22 AM
#36

@amishmanish there is a point of legality and morality when it comes to anything in life, this forum (for most part but certainly i) will not support scammers and criminals like the names you mentioned and if there is any investigation against criminals then they will be weeded out, but if you are a genuine trader (investing and trading with your own hard earned money and not other peoples savings) and if any authority is trying to make your life hell because of technicality then there will be full support from everyone.

I quoted those incidents in a very India specific context @eality. The guy @escrow.ms had not scammed anyone on the forum here as far as you could tell from the opinion other members had about him. If you go through his case, he was simply screwed by the concerned local police. These things don;t even gain enough traction in our country when there is Taimur smiling or a rape-victim's relatives getting killed while a case is ongoing against a powerful MLA. So relying on "full support from everyone" is hardly the wise thing to do.

I do not worry about the country-ban resulting in me personally getting indicted if i use BTC to trade, yet I can understand if people would be concerned about the anonymity, fearing the typical high-handed approach that law-enforcers are allowed in our country.

I am not alarmist about the prospect of dealing in bitcoin. The case at SC has had some good progress. I will gladly carry on trade with BTC or be associated with it without any fear for my identity. Yet, if you are a very well known, old person on BTC forum, there is nothing stopping "law-enforcers" or "random strangers" making assumptions about the net-worth that can be coerced out of you. There have been physical attacks and that is why, if you intend to do any trades, best to put the cypherpunk ideals to practice.

PS: I agree that i took a swipe on you because your statement about Theymos seemed ill-placed. You quoted me as saying:
--snip--

PS: this response goes to amishmanish, pawanjain and the rest who pose those doubt against theymos.
Never did i say that i fear for my identity as the owner of the forum may compromise it. I have followed theymos here and have read his posts at reddit etc. for a long time and am well aware of his commitment to privacy. My doubt was on the extents to which our own law-enforcement can go, not on Theymos. The case of law-enforcement officials using their findings to earn bitcoin for themselves are well known. You could read about the dirty cops who manipulated Ross Ulbricht..
So yeah, lets put it aside and be friends again..LOL..
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September 17, 2019, 03:29:41 AM
#35
@eaLiTy : About merit source

Recently I came across one thread and conversation there clearly suggest that we already have one merit source for Indian board. I don't want to reveal poster's name because it seems to me that s/he doesn't want to come out in the open as an MS, or maybe there are some other reasons.

Guess we all should stop saying that the Indian board needs at least one MS.  Grin
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September 17, 2019, 02:42:09 AM
#34
Not active enough in Indian Sub-forum to vote for a moderator.

Regardless, it's not upto us. I just would like to add that we can certainly use a moderator here. and many of you would do a great job at it.

So hope Theymos hears about it. I will do my bit and drop a PM to him as well.


PS- it's not a paying job if some people mistake it to be. You will need to follow up a lot and be active here.

Good Luck
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September 16, 2019, 11:35:40 PM
#33
All we need is a merit source to merit good posters here to have a healthy community and good activity and i have seen some application and i support them.

well I am not a merit source but I merited you for this looooong reply. But yes I agree with you. Not comepletely. But as far as theymos is concerned.. I have observed his actions for the past 2 years, that is since I joined. I never tried to interact with him but he seems like an anonymity oriented guy. He will not just wake up one day and decide to sell out to the government. These early adopters are anonymity-freaks.
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September 16, 2019, 10:56:12 PM
#32
I do hope Theymos would someday see your post and acknowledge your declaration of loyalty../s LOL.. Roll Eyes
Now you talk like Paparazzi media, taking words out of context  Tongue Grin. I have seen a few responses in this forum about not visiting Indian sub forum because the government might ban bitcoin and the users will be targeted and such, if i find those response again i will quote here.
The context i said i trust Theymos is simply because i use this forum daily and if not for the trust no one would visit literally and the user i quoted was saying about jail term to be an active user or a Mod here, literally what it means is that even if the government targets anyone theymos will not reveal any IP details to anyone.

It'll be great though if he does. We'll have a better chance at getting someone to moderate the Indian sub.
If the admin and the global moderators think that there is a need for a dedicated moderator they will appoint some candidate, all of my reports are taken care of in this sub section for the past few years and with more than 2090 reports with 99% accuracy and hence this is not a priority for them and hence they are not responding i guess Tongue.  If i see spam here i will make sure it will be cleaned and all of my reports are dealt till this time . All we need is a merit source to merit good posters here to have a healthy community and good activity and i have seen some application and i support them.

Although, there isn't much to moderate till the RBI comes clean on its stupid stance and we can have some real commerce going on here. It is all strangulated right now.
What is stopping you from trading here even if RBI does not comes clean, as long as you find a trusted escrow and trust the other person you can carry on with the deal. The point i made about trusting theymos must be crystal clear to you now, even if the Indian government bans bitcoin and if i make a trade through this forum, theymos will not reveal any of our details which will harm our identity and privacy. Hope this make you understand the bigger picture i said earlier.  

I don't quite remember when I posed a doubt against theymos. He is a genuine person and I admire him for his morales.
I never mentioned anything against him bud.
I never said bud that you questioned his genuinity or morality. The quote you said for fun was the context. I know it was a funny one but when i wrote this i was on a party mood and had a few beers.  Cheesy

"I would gladly accept the position even if the term jail was 50 years for trading in crypto.
Because in my perspective, being a mod doesn't justify if you are trading crypto or not."


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amishmanish there is a point of legality and morality when it comes to anything in life, this forum (for most part but certainly i) will not support scammers and criminals like the names you mentioned and if there is any investigation against criminals then they will be weeded out, but if you are a genuine trader (investing and trading with your own hard earned money and not other peoples savings) and if any authority is trying to make your life hell because of technicality then there will be full support from everyone.
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September 14, 2019, 10:38:27 AM
#31

I think HHunter or Amish has the highest report count. I only have 94% accuracy (352 good, 25 bad, 63 269 unhandled) as of now.
Not that I am voting myself for the mod position but just to say that I have started reporting a few posts lately too  Tongue Grin
These are my stats.

I have reported 55 posts with 99% accuracy (52 good, 1 bad, 2 unhandled).
Long way to go I guess.

First and foremost i am seeing many people claiming that they are not active in this sub forum because they do not want to expose their identity posting in Indian sub forum, but the real fact is that if anyone wants to know their IP address theymos must provide them and i trust theymos than anyone else in this forum and i am hundred percent certain that he will not provide any IP address unless there is a fraud case against a user. So there is no point in having a doubt like that.

PS: this response goes to amishmanish, pawanjain and the rest who pose those doubt against theymos.

I don't quite remember when I posed a doubt against theymos. He is a genuine person and I admire him for his morales.
I never mentioned anything against him bud.
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September 10, 2019, 02:15:24 PM
#30
I'm not much active here in local, don't know who is active either. I know legendstar more than anyone probably because he is active in some more boards like service, reputation etc. But his recent negative tag isn't good at all for being a moderator. Otherwise, I would certainly name his name.
On top of that, active reporters must be given more value, we don't know who had most reports in Indian boards. However, I vote for newindia because he already has created a petition thread in meta, he must be a genuine guy here who will care about the forum.

Thanks for your vote of confidence.

My recent negative tag for JSRAW is nothing that I can control. It is his choice to bring up an old mundane resolved issue that occurred on this forum even before he joined this place. Whom he chooses to negatively review is his business. It does not and should not reflect what I do for this community. And it should hold zero effect on my reputation and so it does.

With that said, I have never considered myself to be a forum moderator here. I don't tolerate bullshit and would permaban so many people. haha so it's best if I was left out of that conversation.

And when it comes to reporting.

I think HHunter or Amish has the highest report count. I only have 94% accuracy (352 good, 25 bad, 63 269 unhandled) as of now.
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September 10, 2019, 01:23:25 PM
#29
I'm not much active here in local, don't know who is active either. I know legendstar more than anyone probably because he is active in some more boards like service, reputation etc. But his recent negative tag isn't good at all for being a moderator. Otherwise, I would certainly name his name.
On top of that, active reporters must be given more value, we don't know who had most reports in Indian boards. However, I vote for newindia because he already has created a petition thread in meta, he must be a genuine guy here who will care about the forum.
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September 09, 2019, 01:27:16 AM
#28
First and foremost i am seeing many people claiming that they are not active in this sub forum because they do not want to expose their identity posting in Indian sub forum, but the real fact is that if anyone wants to know their IP address theymos must provide them and i trust theymos than anyone else in this forum and i am hundred percent certain that he will not provide any IP address unless there is a fraud case against a user. So there is no point in having a doubt like that.

PS: this response goes to amishmanish, pawanjain and the rest who pose those doubt against theymos.

That's true. Even though if a subpoena is issued by the Indian government to theymos (on very rare circumstances) for revealing the users location (who are not connected through TOR) theymos would be definitely against that and would be against the government doing that. This has been mentioned many a times by theymos himself that he would turn against the government if they are going to sue the citizens for using bitcoin or involved in bitcoin. I am well aware of the technicalities of keeping myself anonymous by connecting through TOR or though a VPN, but I don't need to hide away since the IP is visible to only theymos himself and none other than him can see that.

The foremost reason for most of them being inactive here is the un-controllable spam which was prevailing here all the days right from 2017.
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September 09, 2019, 01:14:30 AM
#27
Especially that banning crypto news all over your country. Given that circumstance I do not think anyone would be even willing to step up to the plate and offer their neck for a 10 year jail term.
First and foremost i am seeing many people claiming that they are not active in this sub forum because they do not want to expose their identity posting in Indian sub forum, but the real fact is that if anyone wants to know their IP address theymos must provide them and i trust theymos than anyone else in this forum and i am hundred percent certain that he will not provide any IP address unless there is a fraud case against a user. So there is no point in having a doubt like that.

PS: this response goes to amishmanish, pawanjain and the rest who pose those doubt against theymos.
I don't know where did you get this impression that we are posing doubt on theymos. LOL. Why bring the man in the discussion?

Knowing your IP address isn't the only way to ascertain identity out here. You should consider that it wasn't just the cypherpunks who joined this forum and not everyone was so diligent about privacy. Maybe you were. The "doubt" doesn't pertain to what you concluded man..Its about the amazing law-enforcement we have in our country. I am sure you've heard about the cases where the police personnel colluded to extort bitcoin from a Gujarati businessman.

Imagine if they were to ban bitcoin. There won't be any dearth of "genius investigators" who will jump to portray an anoymous forum as the den of money-launderes and criminals. (just to earn a few brownie points). Law enforcement in our country has a history of making people's lives difficult by making sensational announcements of success on highlighted issue. Remember how the UP Police botched up Ayushi Talwar investigation to declare "case solved"? This is not the USA where the cops chasing your car will ask "Sir, can i see some ID". There are no bodycams here. What they do is their own discretion and a lot depends on how connected or powerful you are as a person.

It may not be a real risk but this just goes on to show that its best to keep your identity seal-tight on the forum. You must be aware of the fact that Ross Ulbricht lost his identity here at the forum and I don't think he has seen the outside of a jail compound since then.

Do you know about the guys from "Darwin Labs" who were involved in providing software services to the GainBitcoin mastermind Amit Bhardwaj. Two of those guys are still in custody. Read about the travails of the guy escrow.ms on this forum who had to go through hell when Delhi Police rounded him up as he acted as an escrow on the forum.. All guilty by association..So frankly, its not about your or anyone else's trust on theymos. People should discuss and be aware of the potential risks that simply being "associated" can bring to you in a country like ours..Keep your records clean..Pay your taxes..Know what your are doing..That sort of stuff..

I do hope Theymos would someday see your post and acknowledge your declaration of loyalty../s LOL.. Roll Eyes

It'll be great though if he does. We'll have a better chance at getting someone to moderate the Indian sub. Although, there isn't much to moderate till the RBI comes clean on its stupid stance and we can have some real commerce going on here. It is all strangulated right now.
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September 08, 2019, 03:52:07 PM
#26
Especially that banning crypto news all over your country. Given that circumstance I do not think anyone would be even willing to step up to the plate and offer their neck for a 10 year jail term.
First and foremost i am seeing many people claiming that they are not active in this sub forum because they do not want to expose their identity posting in Indian sub forum, but the real fact is that if anyone wants to know their IP address theymos must provide them and i trust theymos than anyone else in this forum and i am hundred percent certain that he will not provide any IP address unless there is a fraud case against a user. So there is no point in having a doubt like that.

PS: this response goes to amishmanish, pawanjain and the rest who pose those doubt against theymos.
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September 01, 2019, 03:14:16 AM
#25

Saw that board a long time ago last year. I think the condition of your community has shifted a lot since then. Especially that banning crypto news all over your country. Given that circumstance I do not think anyone would be even willing to step up to the plate and offer their neck for a 10 year jail term.
Doc, The legislation has not yet gone through..The highest court has ordered the central bank to explain "Why implement ban when you can regulate?".. The P2P exchanges are working alright and there is quite a lot of interest in bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies. So as of now there is no ban or threat of 10 year jail term..Though if a ban comes into effect, would they come to catch the "kingpin?".

Do you think that being a mod could be risky like that?

LOL, it's hard for me to understand how can one possibly risk anything by just becoming a mod of a board. If I were given a chance I would gladly accept the position even if the term jail was 50 years for trading in crypto.
Because in my perspective, being a mod doesn't justify if you are trading crypto or not.
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August 30, 2019, 11:07:50 PM
#24

Saw that board a long time ago last year. I think the condition of your community has shifted a lot since then. Especially that banning crypto news all over your country. Given that circumstance I do not think anyone would be even willing to step up to the plate and offer their neck for a 10 year jail term.
Doc, The legislation has not yet gone through..The highest court has ordered the central bank to explain "Why implement ban when you can regulate?".. The P2P exchanges are working alright and there is quite a lot of interest in bitcoin as well as other cryptocurrencies. So as of now there is no ban or threat of 10 year jail term..Though if a ban comes into effect, would they come to catch the "kingpin?".

Do you think that being a mod could be risky like that?
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August 24, 2019, 08:10:21 PM
#23
In case any of you is not aware, there is already a thread asking for a new moderator of India forum in Meta - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-we-expect-some-active-mod-in-india-forum-3125174.

Saw that board a long time ago last year. I think the condition of your community has shifted a lot since then. Especially that banning crypto news all over your country. Given that circumstance I do not think anyone would be even willing to step up to the plate and offer their neck for a 10 year jail term.
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August 23, 2019, 03:18:07 PM
#22
In case any of you is not aware, there is already a thread asking for a new moderator of India forum in Meta - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/can-we-expect-some-active-mod-in-india-forum-3125174.
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August 22, 2019, 02:28:44 PM
#21
You all have been talking about electing a person to act as a moderator for the Indian sub board and clean the board by reporting unwanted shit posts and spams.
While this is an efficient way of eliminating the shit posts, it would be wise if we could bring in traffic in the Indian board and have active discussions over quality posts.
If more people make quality posts then there won't be enough space for shit posts lying around. So apart from concentrating on reporting shit posts, we should also pay more attention on bringing in some quality discussions.
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August 21, 2019, 12:27:43 AM
#20
To make the Indian Board cleaner and more active, we all have realized that the Indian Board needs an active moderator. In the process of choosing a good moderator, we also have to keep in mind some of the basics, which I keep in front of you as following points: -

1 He or She must be indian
2 He or She should be active in Indian Board
3 There should be no allegations on him
4 He or She should not be part of any troll or allegations.
5 He or she should have a good history in this forum
6 There should not be any kind of serious negative trust on him.
7 Must have the ability to understand the subject
8 He or she should respect the diversity of India, means, all languages ​​and cultures should be respected equally by him.
9 Apart from the English language, he should have knowledge at least two or more official language of India .
10 The most important point, he is be able to place condition of Indian board prominently on other boards and bring its importance to everyone.

I see Heisenberg_Hunter as a qualified and best candidate for Moderator of the Indian Board. The way he have assessed the status of the Indian board in the meta board and other boards further strengthens their participation. As far as the matter is Benson Samuel he is no longer active in this forum, so I don't think so he is a good candidate for Indian moderator.
I will vote for Heisenberg_Hunter
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August 20, 2019, 10:39:17 PM
#19
Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention..

It will only start if Theymos takes a note just like you said and appoint someone to wipe the spam out from this local section. It's been 1 year or maybe more without a mod and there have been threads in Meta requesting for appointment of a new mod for Indian section but I guess it's not in Theymos priority list yet.

Deadly showed some interest here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32324011

Krishnapramod have a good amount of reports but it seems like he recently defaulted on a loan from condoras so I don't think it will be a good idea to choose him as a suitable candidate for moderator. : https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/krishnapramod-372359
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August 20, 2019, 07:22:51 AM
#18
Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention..

We also need to figure out how we can make the community active and worthy here.


Precisely the same reason I posted a list of Indian members, more poster chipping here only then we can see notable activity in Our board. I am regular in Cricket community, and I see a fair amount of Indian users, will try to convey this msz to them and then it's up to them if they want to contribute in local boards.
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August 20, 2019, 02:47:50 AM
#17
Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention..

We also need to figure out how we can make the community active and worthy here. As a mod, I think it'll be much easier to organize the Child Boards. Weed out the unnecessary clutter, especially in the translation sections.

A community means way more than just keeping the sections clean. In a community, people respect each other for whatever they are worth. They learn from mistakes, they move on. People build their opinion on personal experiences and so far, my experience has been - get extorted, get blackmailed, get tagged for shit you didn't do.

I'm sorry if this seems pessimistic but off late this is the kind of toxicity that has come out of this region. And this is not unique to this forum.

As of now, the regulatory framework is in a grey area so it is understandable that a lot of old people/ HODLers have gone inactive. Yet, we can create and outreach and make the India-sub a welcoming, informative as well as a sincere, authentic source of local information for newcomers.

It will be a few years before the gov decides on what to do. Remember how long the case for Aadhaar actually took?

For example, Someone like legendster and JSRAW could be the outreach for freelancing and work opportunities.

Despite his flawed sense of judgment. I still have no beef with Jrsaw. I chose to improve, he chose to ignore. So I move on. in my book, I win.


Heisenberg is delving into the technical and dev part and he could provide an outreach for interested developers. Dishwara seems to be pretty busy.

I can help on that end as I have had an extensive history with masternodes. I have helped out in the tech boards whenever I was able to.

Deadley has been an old community/ campaign manager.


Known him for a long time. Good guy but we have our differences. However, he is not untrustworthy.

Then of course we need our local spam-busters and Scam-identifiers too.

Can do and have done.

But then again, it all comes down to what you enjoy doing and as I have mentioned before I certainly don't enjoy interacting with most Indians on this forum anymore.

Although there are many exceptions.

We also have a host of CA's and Lawyers who bob their heads here and there at times.

Maybe we can get the CK guys to sign up here or reveal their useri-ds here..

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August 20, 2019, 02:18:44 AM
#16
Appointing a mod now seems more like a matter of getting Theymos' attention..

We also need to figure out how we can make the community active and worthy here. As a mod, I think it'll be much easier to organize the Child Boards. Weed out the unnecessary clutter, especially in the translation sections.

As of now, the regulatory framework is in a grey area so it is understandable that a lot of old people/ HODLers have gone inactive. Yet, we can create and outreach and make the India-sub a welcoming, informative as well as a sincere, authentic source of local information for newcomers.

For example, Someone like legendster and JSRAW could be the outreach for freelancing and work opportunities.

Heisenberg is delving into the technical and dev part and he could provide an outreach for interested developers. Dishwara seems to be pretty busy.

Deadley has been an old community/ campaign manager.

Then of course we need our local spam-busters and Scam-identifiers too.

We also have a host of CA's and Lawyers who bob their heads here and there at times.

We have a great group building out here. If Theymos took note, things can become a lot more organized and the India-sub could regain its true potential.
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August 20, 2019, 12:32:35 AM
#15
Good to see that the community is active here and i am sure if we collectively voice our opinion to theymos he will make a decision, there were chatters earlier about appointing a mod here but it was not a collective effort, i support anyone who will take his time to weed out the spam and make this a great local board, global mods are taking care of my reports here but it takes a couple of days and with 50 plus odd pending reports i usually pump my brakes  Cheesy but it gets resolved eventually. If we have a dedicated mod here to take care of the reports that would be great.

Thank you JSRAW and Heisenberg_Hunter for the suggestion. Smiley

Benson Samuel is not active for a long time and i even asked his help when he was a mod here to clean this section but he was busy in real life and you cannot complaint him.

Muhammad Zakir is not active either, when he came online last year i tried to have a conversation with him and exchanged a couple of PM and then he disappeared again.

To make this local board great with quality posters, we need to have a merit source too and i have seen Heisenberg_Hunter merit application and i support him and hopefully theymos will hear our collective voice .


Anyone who wishes to contact me can reach me in telegram @eality
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August 20, 2019, 12:08:50 AM
#14

I am not endorsing anyone from this list for Indian Mod or anything. my point was to include other Indians as well in any process or any voting for future because 5 people taking participation in any voting doesn't make sense IMHO.

My apologies, I was under the impression that Joel is Indian. If he's not then yes doesn't make any sense.

And I suggest, At this stage let Amish or Hunter do the talking with the other members or promoting anything related to the Indian community because I am on hold regarding your trust ratings.

But if I have to endorse someone. Then I will go with the following users:

1. Promod: I haven't interacted him here, but I think I know him in real.
2. Hunter: Cool dude
3. amishmanish : sometimes he and Hunter both sound carbon copy to me. Both are cool.
4. Patatas : We talked a couple of time. Yeah, he has a temper but a reasonable guy.

Having said that in the end, it depends on the community or highest reports stats when opting for MOD.




Patatas, even though composed at many times, is not suitable to be the Indian mod. He is not Indian and would not be able to connect with us here, understand the ground realities vs what he reads online.

Anyone that is chosen to be the Indian mod must at the least understand the difference between what's written on paper officially and how things work practically. Frankly - even you do not have that sense, else you and I wouldn't be having a point of contention about my past mistakes.

Second point, stop mentioning people's first name. This exposes their identity unnecessarily and could land them in hot waters or serve as ammunition for extortion, doxxing, personal attacks, like in the case of kabit9 vs me.


Lastly,

I would like to endorse Promod as well, but I have never seen him interact here.

Amish & Hunter are good choices, I would lean towards Hunter more than Amish because I have been noticing him from day 1. I believe his sense of judgment is not compromised. Neither is Amish's but I haven't had the time to observe him.
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August 19, 2019, 11:43:38 AM
#13
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If you are not Indian then you will not connect with the Indians. Suggesting Joel to mod Indian board is like asking King Arthur to speak Bhojpuri.

Also, Erika can't be a mod with his / her tainted trust.

The only one from your list that I could support is Pramod. But I have never interacted with him

Besides, guys like Patatas and I are kinda short tempered. We need people that are more diplomatic. So I'd like to interact with some of these people that you have suggested, before I rule out any other Indian on the list.

I am not endorsing anyone from this list for Indian Mod or anything. my point was to include other Indians as well in any process or any voting for future because 5 people taking participation in any voting doesn't make sense IMHO.

My apologies, I was under the impression that Joel is Indian. If he's not then yes doesn't make any sense.

And I suggest, At this stage let Amish or Hunter do the talking with the other members or promoting anything related to the Indian community because I am on hold regarding your trust ratings.

But if I have to endorse someone. Then I will go with the following users:

1. Promod: I haven't interacted him here, but I think I know him in real.
2. Hunter: Cool dude
3. amishmanish : sometimes he and Hunter both sound carbon copy to me. Both are cool.
4. Patatas : We talked a couple of time. Yeah, he has a temper but a reasonable guy.

Having said that in the end, it depends on the community or highest reports stats when opting for MOD.

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August 19, 2019, 10:32:42 AM
#12
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If you are not Indian then you will not connect with the Indians. Suggesting Joel to mod Indian board is like asking King Arthur to speak Bhojpuri.

Also, Erika can't be a mod with his / her tainted trust.

The only one from your list that I could support is Pramod. But I have never interacted with him

Besides, guys like Patatas and I are kinda short tempered. We need people that are more diplomatic. So I'd like to interact with some of these people that you have suggested, before I rule out any other Indian on the list.
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August 19, 2019, 06:52:29 AM
#11
Reporter statistics is the primary consideration in the appointment of a moderator for any board. For instance, rickbig doesn't post much anywhere either in the English board or in the local board but based on his reports he is extremely well suited for the global moderator position.

If Muhammad Zakir was still active, he would have been the MOD without any further clarifications. Apart from him, I support krishnapramod, Eality, newIndia and deadly. Everyone miss a person like MZ (perfect example for being a MOD)  Cry

I have PM'd theymos a day back requesting for reporter statistics in the Indian board, that should probably be helpful if we get a reply.
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August 19, 2019, 05:35:12 AM
#10
If we are going with the voting system, then I would suggest that we should inform other Indian users as well. otherwise, there is a high possibility that we could end up as a small group and then no one going to hear our side as a community and the last thing we want is eco chamber where we are cursing everyone about "nothing going to change."

Some members are quite active in the International community, and I respect them as a community member. We need to think about them as well and bring them back to the Indian community.

Please add more name to this list. We can use some support here, every member counts.

1. Joel_Jantsen  (i think he's DT2 as well) he's not Indian
2. patatas  
3. Juggy777
4. Haunebu
5. bryant.coleman
6. Vishnu.Reang
7. erikalui : (he's already active here i suppose)
8. akram143 : (Not sure if he's from Pak or India. will confirm.)
9. deadley
10. onrise
11. iamsheikhadil
12. avikz (he's active here as well)
13. Krishnapramod (if I am not wrong, then this guy has the highest report if that's a big thingy.)
14. Eality
15. newIndia

If we can bring good amount of users on the same page/same goal, then I am positive we can present our case better. In terms of Mod, activity, Merit source, etc. We are strong if we are working towards one goal together. The difference of opinion can happen, but we shouldn't change goal post at any cost.


Edit :

@Hunter  : Yeah, you are right. By " big thingy" I didn't mean to point out any disagreement, my main focus was to bring all Indian user back to the Indian board so that they can have their say in any decision-discussion in future.
 


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August 19, 2019, 02:50:15 AM
#9
I concur that Heisenberg as Mod would be great.

A new Mod would be nice to have but what we really need is some more initiative. Great to see people getting enthusiastic towards the board.

I do wish some of the older, well-meaning people would come around. Benson is one name. Who else do you guys know?
From the older generation, I think we only have legendster being active enough.. (Older generation...lol..)

There was one guy I hated.
He's a little trigger friend. But rich-af.
I used  to call him Dishwasher. lol but his id was Disawra or Dishawara or something.

Extremely knowledgeable about mining though.

Def. not one to moderate but would be nice to have him back.

Then there was Americandesi - the resident Ripple guy. Even had a ripple based forum. And Skang - who's a big shot these days.

infonetenergy was a frequent poster. I never interacted with him though.
Amitabh - the well respected phd guy turned altcoin stealer. ( I still can't believe)
subvolatil - the pink pony cypherpunk guy. (good guy)

dashingriddler - the guy behind unocoin if I'm not mistaken.
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August 19, 2019, 01:19:26 AM
#8
I concur that Heisenberg as Mod would be great.

A new Mod would be nice to have but what we really need is some more initiative. Great to see people getting enthusiastic towards the board.

I do wish some of the older, well-meaning people would come around. Benson is one name. Who else do you guys know?
From the older generation, I think we only have legendster being active enough.. (Older generation...lol..)
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August 18, 2019, 04:50:55 AM
#7
I really don't know who to support to be a smart for India because I am recently active in the local board so I am not so who prefer to moderate and spend time to be a moderator here so I will wait and decide who is doing the right word to be a moderator.

I saw lot of Indian members on the main board but not here much active.
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August 18, 2019, 03:16:45 AM
#6
Thanks for all the trust you people have kept on me. But the appointment of moderator (at least in bitcointalk) doesn't take place in the way of voting. The forum is a decentralized one and not as we think the majority of other forums are. Here report statistics speaks for themselves. If you have reported more posts and if the percentage of good reports are higher you will have a fair chance to become a moderator.

As I always say, I don't quote myself as a top reporter in the Indian board and the stats can only be presented by theymos himself. More importantly we need the stats of reporters after Benson was dethroned from the position. Right now I have around 820-850 reports and from that around 650-700 good reports should probably be from the Indian section. I have PM'd theymos regarding the stats and we need to wait for the reply from him.

I urge everyone to read my previous post on the current stance of our country and people in terms of adopting digital currencies. We need to note that, moderator is just a volunteer and not like a leader/administrator  for the section. They can only move posts to correct sections and represent the community in a global level. It's sad to note that, I haven't came across even a single Indian developer contributing to the bitcoin code. Among the fellow Indian crypto enthusiasts (where around 90-95% of them are traders) I took a different path to learn the code and thinking of contributing to the source code in future once I get strong with the concepts.

Considering the Altcoins (India) subsection, they are completely dominated by low level greedy spammers who don't care anything for the forum and just translate shit to receive free money. Being a non-native Hindi speaker, my point of view might be wrong with translations. So if anyone of you find a fake translation taking place in the child board, report them regularly until they get handled by global mods. I report regularly in other Indian child boards and main boards and they are being handled within a hour or two either by global mods or mitzie (Greek mod).

P. S : Reporter Statistics are important, let us wait for it.
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August 17, 2019, 03:09:56 PM
#5
Earlier I had a minor scuffle with Heisenberg_Hunter.

Or so I thought.

Given the light of recent incidents, I think I am willing to let that go and even support him if that's what it takes to keep this section clean.
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August 17, 2019, 02:05:07 PM
#4
I vote for Benson Samuel

He has been the mod before and he took care of things pretty well.
Coinsecure is in the past and we all know that he wasn't involved.

His status show he is last active on Aug 14 2019, but he hasn't posted anything for almost a year and a half. So, I believe he is not as active as before to moderate the Indian Board.
Heisenberg_Hunter, not a legendary member but doing a good job here even if he doesn't post much in the Indian Board. So, I'll vote for him.
Yes mate you are right the Heisenberg_Hunter is very active in Bitcointalk community, so I am going to support him only, Heisenberg_Hunter doing well mate keep going.
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August 17, 2019, 01:11:33 PM
#3
I vote for Benson Samuel

He has been the mod before and he took care of things pretty well.
Coinsecure is in the past and we all know that he wasn't involved.

His status show he is last active on Aug 14 2019, but he hasn't posted anything for almost a year and a half. So, I believe he is not as active as before to moderate the Indian Board.
Heisenberg_Hunter, not a legendary member but doing a good job here even if he doesn't post much in the Indian Board. So, I'll vote for him.
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August 17, 2019, 12:31:01 PM
#2
I vote for Benson Samuel

He has been the mod before and he took care of things pretty well.
Coinsecure is in the past and we all know that he wasn't involved.
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August 17, 2019, 12:29:37 PM
#1
I hear you.

India has no mod. But Theymos does not hear you (yet).

So let's put together a list of candidates that you think is active here and can moderate this board.

Just reply to this post with a name recommendation and a comment on why you support that guy.

In the end, I'll create a meta thread and our top picks would be suggested there so that Theymos can take a look at it and decide.






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