Libertarian Party of Texas to Store Election Results On Three Blockchains

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Quote from: BayAreaCoins on April 08, 2016, 07:54:41 PM

Quote from: franky1 on April 08, 2016, 07:19:45 PM

im talking about "their private blockchain"

id say much easier to just put it on the bitcoin blockchain as a message.. and thats it. the private blockchain they have is meaningless vs a global decentralized system

Ah ok I'm following you now.

yep. their description of "The signed voting data is then stored with its public key on a ~~blockchain~~ database managed by the voting machines." is just a couple of machines.. thus not even as secure as anything that is truly a blockchain.

its like he is playing on the bitcoin fame to sell a couple crappy computers to the state, while also getting a long term contract to maintain the couple of computers, all of which have nothing to do with a true blockchain

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Quote from: franky1 on April 08, 2016, 07:19:45 PM

im talking about "their private blockchain"

id say much easier to just put it on the bitcoin blockchain as a message.. and thats it. the private blockchain they have is meaningless vs a global decentralized system

Ah ok I'm following you now.

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Quote from: alani123 on April 08, 2016, 07:38:44 PM

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The idea is that after the balloting is collected, the records will be uploaded to the blockchain for future generations and accountability.

http://www.coindesk.com/libertarian-party-texas-logs-votes-presidential-electors-blockchain/

I'm fine with this but it's not as exciting as other potential applications would be. If there was a way to verify each vote individually other than just use the blockchain to archive the result after counting this would have been more of a significant event.

I think this would not only just be exciting, but yet a huge success of revolutionizing the shadiness of elections. Also, from what I gathered from the article was that they are doing the "old fashioned" method of using paper ballots, but also scanning and uploading the results on florincoin and also, I guess, "test" if it's possible to hash out the results on a private bitcoin blockchain?

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To make the idea of using a blockchain less daunting to the convention attendees, paper ballots will be used to actually mark the votes. Each ballot will then be digitally uploaded using two scanners with a third back-up using BTC’s patent-pending technology.

Published in January of this year, the patent application for the voting machine describes how the device uses private keys to digitally sign voting data and broadcast the results along with a public key to the distributed network. The signed voting data is then stored with its public key on a blockchain database managed by the voting machines.

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Quote from: alani123 on April 08, 2016, 07:38:44 PM

but it's not as exciting as other potential applications would be. If there was a way to verify each vote individually other than just use the blockchain to archive the result after counting this would have been more of a significant event.

exactly

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The idea is that after the balloting is collected, the records will be uploaded to the blockchain for future generations and accountability.

http://www.coindesk.com/libertarian-party-texas-logs-votes-presidential-electors-blockchain/

I'm fine with this but it's not as exciting as other potential applications would be. If there was a way to verify each vote individually other than just use the blockchain to archive the result after counting this would have been more of a significant event.

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im talking about "their private blockchain"

id say much easier to just put it on the bitcoin blockchain as a message.. and thats it. the private blockchain they have is meaningless vs a global decentralized system

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Quote from: franky1 on April 08, 2016, 06:51:26 PM

firstly, the OPs article is not about voting using the blockchain.

I don't think anyone said it was about voting using the blockchain.

Quote from: franky1 on April 08, 2016, 06:51:26 PM

you might aswell get 100+ people to start their own separate texas websites and upload the archived results to those. because (apart from the the cost of domain/server) there is no real difference once you remove the buzzwords

How does getting 100 people starting their own central website comparable to using decentralized blockchains storing results?

I'm sure 100 websites get pwned a day. I haven't seen any of the blockchains get rekt yet today.

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firstly, the OPs article is not about voting using the blockchain.

this is about storing standard ballot results AFTER they are voted the old fashioned way(paper ballots), AFTER they are counted the old fashioned way. then later uploaded onto a database that multiple people have.

its not a chain its not even endless transactions needing confirmation.. its just decentralised database.

nothing more.

you might aswell get 100+ people to start their own separate texas websites and upload the archived results to those. because (apart from the the cost of domain/server) there is no real difference once you remove the buzzwords

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Quote from: chennan on April 08, 2016, 06:04:59 PM

Interesting...

But I don't see where this "florincoin" comes into play... I'm just assuming it's a fork of the normal Bitcoin blockchain? I just briefly skimmed the article and it didn't seem to address the issue of who is going to be putting in the resources to do the hashing... that will honestly be the biggest concern of voter fraud if there are only a few people/government doing the hashing.

I guess it's hard for me to imagine creating an incentive for a lot of people to put energy and time into hashing something that doesn't hold monetary value... I guess I just look at this kind of thing more realistically. It's a great concept though nontheless if it does end up working out.

Florincoin was the first coin to allow for text to be directly saved into the blockchain. It's an "old" coin from 2013. I think the purpose of using it along with BTC and their own private blockchain is just to have a third blockchain to check the other two against for future reference.

I honestly not sure though.

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Interesting...

But I don't see where this "florincoin" comes into play... I'm just assuming it's a fork of the normal Bitcoin blockchain? I just briefly skimmed the article and it didn't seem to address the issue of who is going to be putting in the resources to do the hashing... that will honestly be the biggest concern of voter fraud if there are only a few people/government doing the hashing.

I guess it's hard for me to imagine creating an incentive for a lot of people to put energy and time into hashing something that doesn't hold monetary value... I guess I just look at this kind of thing more realistically. It's a great concept though nontheless if it does end up working out.

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http://www.coindesk.com/libertarian-party-texas-logs-votes-presidential-electors-blockchain/

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