Topic: Life will most likely never return to normal, or at least in a very long time (Read 425 times)

The scientists has spread panic around the population.
They were afraid what this pandemic is going to bring but in the end it doesn't seem that it is so dangerous as it seemed - The only difference and the specific attribute is the fact that it is very contagious.

Totally not since it always evolve and change anyway. What was normal 20 years ago is not anymore. Even before covid-19. Right now we will see that people will take distance to each other more for few years. Will be more cautious and use more hygiene. It could totally change in few years time or either way.

Let me correct your statement?

While it is useless to worry about it, any of thousands of existing virii right inside your body could at any moment mutate to ...

We all knew that people who aren't apart of the at risk group getting it isn't really an issue for their own health. That's already well known. If someone who is under 40 gets the Coronavirus it's going to be like a bad flu for them and then they're most likely going to be fine (most likely, I want to stress that)

But the problem lies in the fact that they have the opportunity to spread it to people who are at risk, and once that happens that person who just got it and is at risk has a much higher likelihood of death. That's why they're trying to slow the spread and keep everyone inside, so it doesn't spread any further and those in the at risk categories aren't dying at a massive rate.

But realize some things about Mars.

1. Mars is so hostile that it is many times worse than any epidemic of ignorance among the people.

2. Even if Mars were a success, it would only be successful for a few people. The 7+ billion on Earth would still be here.

3. Everyone who hasn't given up hope, wants an utopia of some sort, even if it isn't near the surface of his thinking. Mars isn't the utopia. The utopia is much closer. Every time a person dies, he is headed either toward or away from utopia. Seek God, not Musk/Mars for your utopia, or you will never find it.

This is the reason why I strongly support Elon Musk in his big plan to create a colony of life on Mars because "the Earth is no longer a safe place"  

maybe the place you often go to (every Fridays) is a cafe because in general, the night club is a negative place.  drug transactions and women occur on average (I say this because I once worked as a bartender at a night club in my city)..

I disagree with you, there are much worse behaviours being done indoors than outdoor clubbing, besides, not all clubbings are full of immoralities, i go to clubs on fridays just to cool off my brain and i see no wrong in that, its a whole big sector on its own and it can't be scrapped off, how else would you want people to have fun if they don't club?

People who have not done so already really need to listen to Yuri Bezmenov

1. Demoralization. - [a couple of decades]
2. Destabilization - [2 to 5 years]
3. Crisis                - [a matter of weeks]
4. Normalization  - [indefinite] <-------------- we are here

'new normal' = normalization.  It has happened, my friends.  It was to easy.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeMZGGQ0ERk#!

Next question; "who done it?"  To get at least a partial answer to that one needs to understand "Tikkun Olam".

Jesus said, "According to your faith, so it will be done unto you." If you really believe all that, you will get it.

Nah this one will last. with the second wave and a third wave until spring of 2021.

UK plans on rolling lock down plans. 50 days shut 40 days open 50 days shut 40 days open.

This is what most countries will do.

It spreads out the death so we can bury them.

It allows for masks gloves bleach

And if lucky someone will find a good cocktail of drugs that lowers death a lot.

So May of 2021 and it is over and out.

This is an epidemic of ignorance. Since people like to remain in ignorance, the epidemic will last a long time... maybe as long as the earth lasts.

Yeah, I feel it'll take an extended time for this epidemic to finish but people will return to their normal lives it'll not last forever There are many epidemics before but people don't remember the purpose when everything is in check. therein case, there's nothing to be disappointed with it'll end but it'll take a while Every 100 years there's a plague that spreads round the world.

Don't write that. It simply is not true.

There is always some danger no matter your age or health.

You could be 25 in good physical condition with a good nutritional meal plan.

It could hit you and whack you right out of the picture.

The chances of it doing that are  less than that of a fat 75 year old guy with diabetes and heart disease.

As a healthy 25 year old. you may be at  1 in 3000 or 1 in 4000 chance of it whacking you.

As a sick 75 year old you may be at a 1 in 200 or 1 in 300 chance of it whacking you.


A better way to say it is here are 500 six shot revolvers one gun has 1 bullet you must pick one of the guns at random and pull the trigger.

No choice about you are going to do it.  May you pick a good gun and live.



As for me at 63 a little over weight with diabetes in control as my diet is good.  I have 50 pistols to choose from I must pick one up and I must pull the trigger.

 So I am 10x more likely to get whacked than that healthy 25 year old.

But If I stay in place I make it more likely to not get whacked.  If the 25 year old goes to a large party and passes around some joints he has made his odds worse then 1 in 3000 and I have made my odds better than 1 in 300.

It is a simple problem in math the unknowns are how resistance you are and how exposed you are.

The world has set up a second wave situation it will come and be worse than the first one.

Maybe the 25 year old. odds go to 1 in 1000 and the 63 year old odds go to 1 in 100.

"Good luck bro or sis" I would hope you are on the good side of the math.

Life IS returning to normal... with people who like clubbing.



 

Well, life is returning to normal slowly, step by step in countries which were less affected by virus. They are opening restaurants, schools and etc. When walking in the city, I don't feel that we live in quarantine. Probably only place which reminds it is shops were people still forced to wear masks. And there is hand sanitizers at every entrance.
I think it mostly depends on what will happen in autumn. If there will be second wave and it will hard, life will not return to normal very soon.
But if there will be no second wave, or it will be very minimal, we will return to normal life fully in 2021. I hope to see stadiums full of people, concerts and other big events soon - I really miss it...
What?! Sorry, but it's biggest nonsense that I read today. So, what people are supposed to do? Just work, eat and sleep? What about social life? Maybe you don't like clubbing, but I don't see nothing wrong in going to club to dance and take few shots.

Life returns to normal eventually. And quicker than expected. This is not the first epidemic nor it will be last. We have seen 4-5 major epidemics in last 20 years. This time we have a more penetrated social media, hence more hype. Even in deadlier epidemic of 1919-20 was forgotten quickly.

I'm not saying that this covid19 pandemic is a good thing, why would it be called pandemic anyways, But I think this is the wake up call for all of us. The things we call "normal" these days seem to be worse than before. Our idea of normal become degraded. We are messed-up right now. No, we are already messed-up since then. Maybe it is way for us to reflect on ourselves, evaluate. I do hope at the end of this event we can be to go back to the normal - right normal way our living. Keep safe y'all.

We always got to take nutritious food to stay our bodies healthy Exercise regularly to alleviate fatigue And arrange entertainment Everything in lockdown is nearly impossible When these are opened everything will return to its previous place. Life will certainly return to normal it'll not take long, so you would like to strengthen your morale and always think positively about your health, not get frustrated  With touch care you'll control the virus very easily.

Why wouldn't we be able to go clubbing or watch a movie with friends? There's no danger if you're a healthy person who gets enough sleep, eats well, takes vitamins and so on. If you're afraid of the virus take a test. Chances are you've already had it and have antibodies in your system. More than 50% of people get no symptoms or just feel tired while fighting the virus and then it's all gone.

While it is useless to worry about it, it can mutate right inside your body to another, very similar form. This form might be different enough that your immune system won't recognize it until you have come down with some of the symptoms.

If you get reported to the medical for having symptoms, they will come and get you, and test you for Covid. Their tests might find 1 or more of 3 things:
1. You have something similar to Covid;
2. You have had a relapse somehow (their testing wasn't very good);
3. The symptoms say it all; you have Covid.

Then they will put you on a ventilator, and you will die from the ventilator, even if you are well enough from the Covid to get up and walk out of the hospital.

If you had kept up in your studies - rather than focusing on your useless research - you might be up-to-date in your understanding of what is going on in the field of medicine.

Nice to hear from you, though.

 

There was so much consuming behaviors from people lately and I think that coronavirus came to adjust them to a new normal situation.
Clubbing is not a normal behavior it i s a waste of time and a waste of money.
It is good that we are keeping clubs close so that people will be focused on more important things.

Time flies, changes, and things cannot be the same. I grew up to not see those events OP listed above as a prevail edge but now I can see that clubbing and meetings are things to appreciate. Took them for granted but it is now a feeling to see a crowd of people reciting a song at the same time dancing. Those feelings are gone and I won't say forever because nothing will last forever not even the social distancing. Here in Africa people are stubborn and can't be controlled like people in the first world. Most of these activities have been banned but still, go on daily. I am saying this so that you will know that they are a high possibility that life will still get back to normal.

If you already had it, then you could stop worrying about getting it.

oh badecker has no clue. .. maybe he should stick to being dumb in the 911 topic.

The instant you cut your finger, your body is already sending immune response cells to the cut to fight off anything that might be there to fight.

The instant your body senses a new pathogen, it is already sending immune cells to fight the pathogen even though it doesn't know if it has seen this pathogen before.

A vaccine only mixes your immune system up so that it can't do a proper job of determining what the pathogen is. The vaccine does this by sticking all kinds of foreign animal cells and human fetus cells into your body, so that your immune system goes into panic mode, and essentially destroys its own strength to fight the new pathogen.


If the new pathogen isn't of the kind that causes an immune reaction of a runny nose, hopefully you won't display a runny nose. If you do, it's because your immune system has been compromised. Go straight to the kind of immune response that fits the particular pathogen.


If people get a runny nose, it's simply because they got a cold... the thing that Coronavirus is generally. It's impossible to get Covid-19 without having thousands of kinds of other Coronaviruses present, like those that produce coughs, runny noses, fever, etc.

an unknown new virus does not give you a runny nose because it doesnt trigger the immune response as soon as you inhale the pathogen. because your body doesnt know its bad.
you usually only respond once its started doing damage in the cells of your lungs.(dry cough>fever>breathing issues)
a vaccine helps your body respond sooner and excrete it faster before it does damage(pneumonia). so having a runny nose is a good sign your immune response is triggered

if you skipped the runny nose and went to the cough>fever then your body hasnt got good immune response.. either because what you had was new virus or your body is immuno compromised

hopefully people do get runny nose symptoms in the next season oc covid if they had it before or get a vaccine.
what people dont want is for it to go unnoticed and only start feeling it once it hit the lungs and already multiplying.
people dont want it to get to the pneumonia stage next year

its better to have a runny nose and excrete it before it gets to the lungs.

Ugh, dont even remind me of the flu vaccine. Had it this year for the first time in awhile and still got the flu, pretty sure I'm just on a cycle of getting the flu every few years - regardless of a vaccine or not.

I know the vaccine does help to make it milder, but shit no one could convince me that the flu I experienced this year was milder. Actually -- I should get the Coronavirus antibody test to see if I had it, would be nice to know.

vaccine creators have in the past tried making a vaccine that aims for making the immune system recognise a specific pathogen. EG only SARS bot not MERS.. only MERS but not sars.

but this time vaccine creators are trying to have a vaccine that recognises all the corona family. thus it will take care of all the small seasonal mutations.
(yes some are only trying to aim at the covid19 specific identifiers(facepalm))

what it wont do. is if say someone in africa is infected with both ebola and covid. and they rna mix in a cell combines to create a hybrid. which looks nothing like covid or ebola.

but the chances of that is super slim.
so we can actually have hope of a vaccine that does more than work for one season. and not require re-design/development/trials yearly.

however.. how long the vaccine causes the bodies immune system to stay programmed to identify it. is another situation which is why some people may need yearly vaccine 'boosters' instead of one a decade.

yep once your body is immune. your bodies immune system can forget how to protect it in 3months/6 months/year. or if lucky decades.. this part is the unknown

As far as COVID, "vaccine" is a media pipe dream. COVID-19 like all these virii mutates rapidly. But every year, they'll have a flu vaccine that's better than no vaccine. That's the way it is.

I didn't include more about the vaccine in my post, which I should've, but I do think it is important for people to note that I do think a large amount of people are going to be sketpical of such a vaccine at least without much research occurring on it.

This isn't me saying that people are going to say that this vaccine is causing autism, because I'm not doing that (yes, some tards will do that, but that's not what I'm on about here) I'm talking about how people are going to have to make informed decisions about if the vaccine is worth it for them - meaning if the benefits of not getting the coronavirus outweigh the potential side effects of this vaccine.

Yes, if the vaccine is already available to the public, I think it will start to return to normal. However, this will take maybe years but OP don't say never. And also, once the potent combination of medicines is identified, we will slowly trust ourself to go out. But still practicing social distancing and all. Outbreaks in our history had been surpassed so is this one.

I wouldn't use the term never, but it will take sometime until life is back to what we think of as normal. Most people aren't going to be too excited to be going out in a time like this, even if government restrictions begin to lax, I highly doubt that restaurants are going to fill up, or sports stadiums will fill up, and so on and so forth.

A large amount of offices are going to have people work from home while having people come to the office in shifts. I know this is pretty common right now for companies that need to have their workers in the office (and are deemed essential) and can't just work fully online for some reason.

People are going to want to wait for a vaccine, but they'll probably just settle for not having large events if the spread slows and deaths slow. Obviously older people and those that are at risk are still going to be at home though. Education is a tough one, and I expect for that to be online for at least the first half of the next school year. Going to be hard for schools (and really everyone) when flu season comes and its hard to differentiate who has Corona and who has the flu.

“PROF. LOCKDOWN” CAUGHT MASSAGING THE STAATS - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ep58auSuoE



Neil Ferguson "made" the computer code for the modeling that started the whole pandemic. He finally gave us the programming code. Turns out that what he gave us is crap, and... it wasn't the original code. Probably he never had a code. It probably was all guesswork... or worse, deadly propaganda.

The whole pandemic is based on a lie.

There were some reports about kids not acting as transmission vectors, but of course the preliminary reports should always be taken with a grain of salt until it's verifiable.

https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/coronavirus/article242403731.html

If it ends up being the case that kids don't transmit the virus, then it means opening up schools in the Fall. People are underestimating the fact that a home education for some people isn't viable if their parents can't teach them. 

With regard to the past, there isn't any such thing as a shift in the present. There is only the present, which differs from the past. Any shift that is being done is a simple changing of present into what suddenly becomes past. And, this is what always has been done and happened. So, since it has always been done this way, everything is operating normally right now.

The reason a person might think that things are not normal now, is that he hasn't experienced enough of life to know that there is always change. He might be losing some of his toys or freedom right now, but it isn't normal to him because it never happened to him before. But it has happened to lots of other people in many different ways.

The biggest normal that has ever existed is the normal of people doing it all for themselves, except that they had a little help from a few friends.

I don't really see it as a return to the past, but rather a shift in the present. I mean, we have the technology (especially the Internet and everything it allows), ways to produce cheap energy and food, we give more value to human life and the general level of education has improved drastically. Will we see a reduction of consumerism? Yes, of course, there was never a real need to get a new car every 5 years, or to go on holiday to another continent once a year. But I don't think we will have to start growing our own food and that kind of stuff (although many will choose to do it if they can).

It might not affect children in a very harmful way but they do seem to act as contagious vectors and they would of course have to be kept away from their grandparents (another sad event).

I wish 2021 would be a realistic target for a return to normality but I don't see it so close.

Life is returning to normal. What is normal? Prior to about 300 years ago, people had to slave to make a living, just to survive.

Think of what it is like to make everything you have from scratch. Make your clothes, build your house, grow your own food, teach your kids at home, do everything for yourself... except when a few families got together and helped each other out.

The last 300 years is where we got to do all kinds of things never done before. What other time in history did average families have cars and super-highways to drive them on? Whoever heard of TV or radio and other forms of communications we take as normal?

The last 300 years has been a departure from the normal. Time for us all to wake up to what normal was for thousands of years.

Things are returning to normal, even though it is happening through a fake-Covid pandemic.

There were some studies released that coronavirus doesn't affect children the way it does adults and that potentially, infected children might not be transmissible to adults. With that being said, there was an outbreak of some sort of COVID related syndrome that affected 50 children, but they're treatable. I think we'll probably be able to open up schools sooner than people think.

As far as concerts goes, it's a wrap. You're not going to see concerts until 2021 at the earliest and many of the small business venues that host these events are going to have to close as a result.

It's not only about the people dying or suffering, the crashing economy or any other pains yet to come. It's about a whole new paradigm in the way we understand life, social interactions, fun and relationships.

Will we (or young people at least ) ever be able to go out clubbing again?



Will rock/metal concerts ever be the same?



How will singles go out to meet new people who could possibly be their life companions? How will they be able to break the distance barrier?



Will people in Latin countries ever be able to greet each other with 2 kisses on the cheek?



Will it be at all possible to keep small children in schools separated from each other?




There are so many questions and way too few answers. I have a feeling that life as we have known it is going to change drastically, with new upcoming social conventions, more (forced) individualism and a yet sharper decline in birth rate. I don't believe there will be a magical vaccine that will make us safe again from one day to the next, nor any group immunity coming soon. And even if there is, it will take long for people to feel confident about going "back to normal" again.