Linux live usb for trading crypto (not for wallets)

Wind_FURY

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Quote from: bob123 on April 24, 2018, 03:37:39 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 24, 2018, 12:10:27 AM

Quote from: bob123 on April 23, 2018, 02:57:12 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 23, 2018, 02:23:13 AM

I do not believe that the people who have suggested Tails have really used them for trading or for daily computing. Tails is slow unless maybe if you have USB3.0.

The speed of a live usb system is always capped by the transfer speed you have with USB. This is not a 'problem' directly attached to Tails.
This applies to any live OS. USB 3.0 is (kind of) always required to have a smooth (and properly operable) system.

But to say and recommend that OP use Tails to trade clearly shows that those people do not use Tails regularly. Have you tried it? It is frustrating because everything is so slow.
For trading, a bootable USB with a regular light Linux distro would be enough, with or without persistence.

Again, this has nothing to do with tails.
You can install any live OS onto a USB 2.0 device. The speed will be *relatively* equal, less than 40 MB/s.
This is due to the USB port transfer speed, not because 'it is tails'.
Install *any* live os onto a USB 3.0 device (< 300 MB/s) and it will work noticeable faster. Completely independend from tails.

I tried different distros using USB 2.0. Tails was noticeably slower, Lununtu and Xubuntu were ok but lag sometimes. Surprisingly it was the "heavier" Linux Mint Xfce that worked very smoothly.

Plus what made Tails very slow was it had to connect to an Onion circuit and have ALL traffic go through Tor.

bob123

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 24, 2018, 12:10:27 AM

Quote from: bob123 on April 23, 2018, 02:57:12 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 23, 2018, 02:23:13 AM

I do not believe that the people who have suggested Tails have really used them for trading or for daily computing. Tails is slow unless maybe if you have USB3.0.

The speed of a live usb system is always capped by the transfer speed you have with USB. This is not a 'problem' directly attached to Tails.
This applies to any live OS. USB 3.0 is (kind of) always required to have a smooth (and properly operable) system.

But to say and recommend that OP use Tails to trade clearly shows that those people do not use Tails regularly. Have you tried it? It is frustrating because everything is so slow.
For trading, a bootable USB with a regular light Linux distro would be enough, with or without persistence.

Again, this has nothing to do with tails.
You can install any live OS onto a USB 2.0 device. The speed will be *relatively* equal, less than 40 MB/s.
This is due to the USB port transfer speed, not because 'it is tails'.
Install *any* live os onto a USB 3.0 device (< 300 MB/s) and it will work noticeable faster. Completely independend from tails.

Wind_FURY

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Quote from: bob123 on April 23, 2018, 02:57:12 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 23, 2018, 02:23:13 AM

I do not believe that the people who have suggested Tails have really used them for trading or for daily computing. Tails is slow unless maybe if you have USB3.0.

The speed of a live usb system is always capped by the transfer speed you have with USB. This is not a 'problem' directly attached to Tails.
This applies to any live OS. USB 3.0 is (kind of) always required to have a smooth (and properly operable) system.

But to say and recommend that OP use Tails to trade clearly shows that those people do not use Tails regularly. Have you tried it? It is frustrating because everything is so slow.

For trading, a bootable USB with a regular light Linux distro would be enough, with or without persistence.

bob123

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 23, 2018, 02:23:13 AM

I do not believe that the people who have suggested Tails have really used them for trading or for daily computing. Tails is slow unless maybe if you have USB3.0.

The speed of a live usb system is always capped by the transfer speed you have with USB. This is not a 'problem' directly attached to Tails.
This applies to any live OS. USB 3.0 is (kind of) always required to have a smooth (and properly operable) system.

Wind_FURY

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I do not believe that the people who have suggested Tails have really used them for trading or for daily computing. Tails is slow unless maybe if you have USB3.0.

OP, download the Linux Mint Xfce ISO and make a bootable USB out of it. There are many guides online on how to make a bootable USB with persistence. It should be easy for a typical internet user. Good luck.

cryptogovi

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Quote from: Anti-Cen on April 22, 2018, 09:47:46 AM

Quote from: wilwxk on April 22, 2018, 09:31:40 AM

Yes, it will be safer, but the worst problem is not the OS, in most of cases the account hacks are caused by phishing and exchange's security flaw.
If you really want to use a live usb for trading, you can use the Tails (as said before), but your experience in the Tor browser will not be the best, or you can even use a OS like Ubuntu. In both cases you can use the OS in live percistence mode for a better experience.

Tails uses a firefox based browser and they are just as bad as Microsoft or Google which you would know if you ran stuff like
wire-shark or peeked inside the Dll's and did a search for all the URL's

Tor has become a let-down, too slow and too few CIA/NSA exit nodes which are all well know addresses and don't even get me started
about WannaCry viruses coming out the Tor client software and NOT some browser exploit.

I was ruining a dedicated machine that was scraping the internet for about a year using Tor's Vidalia and didn't open browsers on the
machine (Only IE10 installed) and guess what this machine picked up and yes my routers firewall was well setup both inbound and outbound?

So what browser do you recommend?

Anti-Cen

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Quote from: tumis on April 22, 2018, 09:58:02 AM

I have an impression that I have no control over it.

You don't because it has turned into a remote terminal for the CIA/NSA.

Developers are being locked out of windows all over the place and not only are parts of the
registry locked (if you can traverse 400,000 key, 12 levels deep) but we cannot even delete
some of the hidden files (Index.dat) even when we know where to find them.

Shit i got this new "People" program forced on me and I cannot even stop, let alone un-install the thing
without reverting to some serious hack tricks.

Linux Mint is my advise but I cannot join you, to well versed in windows to jump ship myself.

tumis

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What do you think about the ubuntu touch ?

I would like to install Linux on my tablet but I don't know how to do it.

Removing everything and isntalating a clean system? Do you leave any system?

At this moment I have Android and Windows 10 on my tablet and I'm especially annoyed by Windows - I have an impression that I have no control over it. I wonder to remove it (windows and android) and insert Linux. And now I don't know if this simplified touch-up installation will suffice or if something else? Do you know how to do it well?

Anti-Cen

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Quote from: wilwxk on April 22, 2018, 09:31:40 AM

Yes, it will be safer, but the worst problem is not the OS, in most of cases the account hacks are caused by phishing and exchange's security flaw.
If you really want to use a live usb for trading, you can use the Tails (as said before), but your experience in the Tor browser will not be the best, or you can even use a OS like Ubuntu. In both cases you can use the OS in live percistence mode for a better experience.

Tails uses a firefox based browser and they are just as bad as Microsoft or Google which you would know if you ran stuff like
wire-shark or peeked inside the Dll's and did a search for all the URL's

Tor has become a let-down, too slow and too few CIA/NSA exit nodes which are all well know addresses and don't even get me started
about WannaCry viruses coming out the Tor client software and NOT some browser exploit.

I was ruining a dedicated machine that was scraping the internet for about a year using Tor's Vidalia and didn't open browsers on the
machine (Only IE10 installed) and guess what this machine picked up and yes my routers firewall was well setup both inbound and outbound?

Anti-Cen

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Quote from: cryptogovi on April 22, 2018, 04:51:04 AM

more safely than using Windows?

Yes agree 100%, Microsoft's black box API's are steeling any data they can get and this is why your CPU keeps
going crazy and yet windows task manager makes out that nothing is going on.

Do not trust Netstat or program calls into windows to return a task list of processes because they both lie and this comes on top
of all the back doors built into Intel Chips, You are now the product when using a "Personal PC"

wilwxk

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Yes, it will be safer, but the worst problem is not the OS, in most of cases the account hacks are caused by phishing and exchange's security flaw.
If you really want to use a live usb for trading, you can use the Tails (as said before), but your experience in the Tor browser will not be the best, or you can even use a OS like Ubuntu. In both cases you can use the OS in live percistence mode for a better experience.

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Quote from: bob123 on April 22, 2018, 09:01:12 AM

But be careful with the built-in wallet. It took several months for them to update the wallet to the most updated version (this version of electrum was vulnerable to exploits).

I can confirm this. When I installed Tails, the built-in Electrum was an older version ( 2.7.9 if I'm not mistaken).
But the really annoying part was that it wouldn't sign transactions.
Being an amnesic operating system, Tails also would not allow you any new installation. That is, you would have to reinstall a new version of Electrum every time you restart your computer.

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Quote from: aleksej996 on April 22, 2018, 04:53:34 AM

You could even use Tails OS to have better privacy, plus it has an Electrum wallet already installed in it.

Tails is a good option for a private distro just for crypto stuff.
But be careful with the built-in wallet. It took several months for them to update the wallet to the most updated version (this version of electrum was vulnerable to exploits).

Any clean OS should be fine (with linux kernel in a slight advantage here).

But instead of running it via live usb, you might want to install it on a dedicated device (medium size USB stick / usb 3.0 hard drive) to keep updates installed ("buffer between startups" option when installing on USB).
You don't want to update/download everything each time you plug your USB in.

aleksej996

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Yes, that would be a lot safer.

You could even use Tails OS to have better privacy, plus it has an Electrum wallet already installed in it.

cryptogovi

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Hi,

I can't have a dedicated laptop just for crypto now, could it be a good idea to use a bootable linux usb to trade on Binance, etc, more safely than using Windows?

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