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Topic: Lisk is not a decentralized app platform !!! (Read 735 times)

sr. member
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April 10, 2016, 01:58:01 AM
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Ill jusp on the next Blockchain writen in CLojure
sr. member
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MaskNetwork lead developer
Hello Mask network,
answer to my support messages before you try to advertise here and spread fud over other coins.
I didn't get any email as a confirmation of my initial small investment. It looks more and more like a scam to me...
I saw after investing: Your so-called decentralized network is written in PHP. PHP? Kidding me?

I have sent you a PM.

Web interface is written in PHP. The web interface is linked to the java node by a db server (mysql / oracle....). The core that maintains the network connectivity,  encryption, virtual machine and so on is written in java and it's pretty big (over 50k lines of code)

Web Ndode source code - https://github.com/masknetwork/web_node
Java Node Source Code - https://github.com/masknetwork/java_node

So, only the interface is php. You can't write a p2p network using PHP alone...Smiley
legendary
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Hello Mask network,
answer to my support messages before you try to advertise here and spread fud over other coins.
I didn't get any email as a confirmation of my initial small investment. It looks more and more like a scam to me...
I saw after investing: Your so-called decentralized network is written in PHP. PHP? Kidding me?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
MaskNetwork lead developer
Lisk seems the new popular kid on the block

It is the new kid on the block...
sr. member
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Lisk seems the new popular kid on the block
sr. member
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MaskNetwork lead developer
This is the first time i heard of MaskNetwork. Are you trying to create a FUD for the benefit of your Project?
By the way i have nothing against your project but I think each Coin has their own purpose and features.

I was making a comparision between those three platforms and after digging lisk.io i reached the conclusion that we are not talking about a decentralized app project. You don't have to be a genius. I have just quoted what their sites states on the first page. You need 3rd party to run your "decentralized" applications.

Because we are talking about a project that generated so much interest from community, i was 100% convinced that we are dealing with a classic decentralized platform where contracts are run in a secure way inside a Virtual Machine.

I don't know why, but lately people are calling "smart contract" any new feature that has nothing to do with a turing complete language executed by each and every node of the network.

Now, about the FUD.

FUD means "Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a disinformation strategy used in sales, marketing, public relations, ....."

There is nothing dubious in this phrase " By utilizing our extensive user base, you can quickly find 3rd party nodes to execute your decentralized application through servers all over the world in a truly decentralized manner."

It's on the Lisk.io main page. I have just quoted.

sr. member
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SynqCrypto Team
This is the first time i heard of MaskNetwork. Are you trying to create a FUD for the benefit of your Project?
By the way i have nothing against your project but I think each Coin has their own purpose and features.
sr. member
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For Ethereum and MaskNetwork, things are easy :

1. The contract code is runned by all nodes and all nodes should reach the same conclusion after execution.

Good for Lisk, it will not crash under the enormous load.
sr. member
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MaskNetwork lead developer
Right now there are three networks that implement a turing complete language : Ethereum (www.ethereum.org), Lisk  (www.lisk.io) and Masknetwork (www.masknetwork.com)

For Ethereum and MaskNetwork, things are easy :

1. The contract code is runned by all nodes and all nodes should reach the same conclusion after execution.
2. After a contract is run, a small fee is paid depending on the number of steps executed.
3. A copy of the contract code and storage is maintained by all nodes.

In Lisk case :

- The contract code is NOT executed by all nodes.
- There is no fee paid depending on the code complexity.
- A copy of contract plus additional data (storage) is not maintained on the mainchain.

What i know :

All Lisk applications run over sidechains  where  "The decentralized application developer has complete control over the sidechain." (https://lisk.io/features)

You need a "third party" to execute your code - "By utilizing our extensive user base, you can quickly find 3rd party nodes to execute your decentralized application through servers " (www.lisk.io)


What i don't know :

Is Lisk a decentralized smart contract platform  ?? And why do you need a 3rd party to execute your code ??

I was 100% sure that "3rd party" and "decentralized" are antonymes. My personal opinion is that Lisk is far from a dapp platform. What do you think ?


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