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Topic: List the lies from scammer adkin shills, tag reference (Read 520 times)

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Another newbie account with the obvious fake review for Adkins:

I loved this site. It will be one of my choices if its design is developed and its reliability is mentioned. To be honest, sportsbet is my first choice, but I was impressed by the variety of live matches, even the smallest match, corner bet etc. Here, I will rewrite the experiences I gained by depositing money as soon as possible.

The account was registered on July 16, 2017 and was dormant until recently, and one of the first posts afterwards was a shilling for adkinsbet.
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Still have any of those collectibles you bought? You couldn't possibly post a picture of just a single one of those, confirming the current date, right? How about anything in 2019 or earlier for identity verification, just so you can cast away those account transfer doubts?
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You are tagging people that they are lying, so where is your proof?
That's exactly what I am asking from those liars who are posting that they deposited x and withdrew y where adkins were failed to prove their legitemacy and loyalty to the clients and scammed many users on the forum. You are no different so STFU!

Awesome, somebody still cares enough to do the right thing. Get ready for the endless threads about how you are abusing the trust system nowGrin
Yeah one moron is already here.

Then I suggest to make it more specific, like changing the thread title.
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Actually, they are shilling for Adkins, probably bumping service. And of course, they are laying according to us. But the question is how moderators would determine if they are really laying? It'd easy to guess for us. Even moderators could guess but they can't take any action or delete posts based on a guess. They are taking advantage of the forum rule's loophole.
I understand the hands of the mods are limited and they are driven by the rules. My goal is to list those liars and tag their accounts so anyone who does not have idea of their words can at least see their trust page and see this topic.

if we accuse of them lying, that requires evidence in order to prove such accusation. 
They are free to bring blockchain evidences.
I'm not depending anyone here but IMO, it's up to them to share the transaction or not, bear in mind that we want privacy here.
You are suspecting and I suspect that what you have posted here are all the evidence you got.

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Looks lying and lying is different, one is suspecting while one is accusing.
Yes but in this case of adkins, it's obvious and there are zero doubt. I hope you have seen their self-moderated thread and how that thread developed.

I saw their thread and I also believe they are shilling but that's just up to me, however, lying is just another case though, that's my personal opinion too and the evidence provided if there's any doesn't suffice the accusation of lying.

Is this thread all about adkins? Then I suggest to make it more specific, like changing the thread title.

The main point here is it's not the mods job to take care of this matter.
legendary
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Or you can give a neutral or negative trust rating to the suspects and refuse to remove the rating till they provide proof. Why bother though, people barely read the forum...
That's what I am doing now. I have left some of them negatives (those I managed to discover). Hopefully few users will get alert from it. I know not many cares about it but it's something needs to be taken care of too. By the way, where the hell are you? I do not see you around these days.

Awesome, somebody still cares enough to do the right thing. Get ready for the endless threads about how you are abusing the trust system now.  Grin I have never left the forum. You weren't looking hard enough.
legendary
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Or you can give a neutral or negative trust rating to the suspects and refuse to remove the rating till they provide proof. Why bother though, people barely read the forum...
That's what I am doing now. I have left some of them negatives (those I managed to discover). Hopefully few users will get alert from it. I know not many cares about it but it's something needs to be taken care of too. By the way, where the hell are you? I do not see you around these days.

You are a complete idiot mate.

You are tagging people that they are lying, so where is your proof?

If you accuse people of lying, you need to have evidence to proof the lie.

You are working in the opposite way: You just write that people are lying and if you can not proof you do not lie, you are a liar.

Biggest joke on earth!

But since you are an alt account of the sportsbet.io gang, nobody will remove you from the DT zone.

Hopefully there are some honest DT members who will throw piggs like you out of the DT zone.
legendary
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Or you can give a neutral or negative trust rating to the suspects and refuse to remove the rating till they provide proof. Why bother though, people barely read the forum...
That's what I am doing now. I have left some of them negatives (those I managed to discover). Hopefully few users will get alert from it. I know not many cares about it but it's something needs to be taken care of too. By the way, where the hell are you? I do not see you around these days.
legendary
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Deposited 100 mBTC and make a withdrawal for 127 mbtc, received in about 3 hours.
After the successful bets, I will make a deposit again and see if I can get some money.

If I ask for a blockchain evidence then my post will be deleted from that topic. So here is my topic. I am pretty sure those users who are making post like this are bunches of liars. I received a PM with this link. They deposited 100 mbtc and received 127 mbtc. There will be more posts like this. Can anyone (including the guy who PMed) bring this sorts of links which are making false claim on this post? These users are not bound to show proves but considering the reputation this bookie have, it's pretty obvious that these are lies. Let's lists the lies until they are proven true.

The thread is self moderated and scamming is not against the forum rules. That's not the mods job to restore your posts that were deleted from a self-mod'ed thread. You can create another unmoderated thread with the same or similar title and post your questions there. This has been like this since the day I joined this forum.

Lying is not against the rules neither.

Or you can give a neutral or negative trust rating to the suspects and refuse to remove the rating till they provide proof. Why bother though, people barely read the forum...
legendary
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Actually, they are shilling for Adkins, probably bumping service. And of course, they are laying according to us. But the question is how moderators would determine if they are really laying? It'd easy to guess for us. Even moderators could guess but they can't take any action or delete posts based on a guess. They are taking advantage of the forum rule's loophole.
I understand the hands of the mods are limited and they are driven by the rules. My goal is to list those liars and tag their accounts so anyone who does not have idea of their words can at least see their trust page and see this topic.

if we accuse of them lying, that requires evidence in order to prove such accusation. 
They are free to bring blockchain evidences.
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Looks lying and lying is different, one is suspecting while one is accusing.
Yes but in this case of adkins, it's obvious and there are zero doubt. I hope you have seen their self-moderated thread and how that thread developed.
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Obviously you can tell that they are shilling but that is not anymore part of the mods job, so it's not wrong if they are not doing anything. Shilling and lying could be different, as we might think these people are shilling but if we accuse of them lying, that requires evidence in order to prove such accusation. 

Looks lying and lying is different, one is suspecting while one is accusing.
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 yes it's a lie. it's too good to be true that they think people will actually believe it. with the reputation because of the scam accusation to them, there is even a chance that they will not let users withdraw than shouldering fees.

Actually, they are shilling for Adkins, probably bumping service. And of course, they are laying according to us. But the question is how moderators would determine if they are really laying? It'd easy to guess for us. Even moderators could guess but they can't take any action or delete posts based on a guess. They are taking advantage of the forum rule's loophole.

Self moderating threads are moderated by the creator itself so moderator is not going to involve anything related to it.
Moderators still would be involved if the creator doing anything wrong against forum rules. Doesn't matter if the post is self-moderated or not.

Adkins was recently exposed by DireWolfM14 because of their army of alts and it looks like there's more to the ones exposed who are now shilling for them after the temporary ban.

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Actually, they are shilling for Adkins, probably bumping service. And of course, they are laying according to us. But the question is how moderators would determine if they are really laying? It'd easy to guess for us. Even moderators could guess but they can't take any action or delete posts based on a guess. They are taking advantage of the forum rule's loophole.

Self moderating threads are moderated by the creator itself so moderator is not going to involve anything related to it.
Moderators still would be involved if the creator doing anything wrong against forum rules. Doesn't matter if the post is self-moderated or not.
legendary
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NotATether, it's not anymore LOL

The latest:
I received my withdrawal from Adkinsbet in about 5 hours, it was about 800$
Can you try to process my withdrawal next time a bit faster than 5 hours please?


i had some good bets today on the site and won 20 mbtc. i know, for many people it is nothing but for me is 20 mbtc still a lot of money its about 1000$ and now let us hope i dont blow it  Cheesy
legendary
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Who sent you that link? Was it "Lavander"?
No, it was not him but someone else. And I think we are on the same boat so there are no question about reporting his PM.

Let's see how long it takes for that mikelsmith2020 puppetmaster to delete this as if this message is somehow offensive to Adkins.

No I did not had to pay eny fee. I had a balance of 127 mbtc and withdrew the entire balance and received the complete 127 mbtc.
the fee for the blockchain was paid by adkinsbet

Care to post a screenshot of the record from Adkins webpage in your withdrawal history page as proof?

It still there so you are kind of lucky LOL however you already got two response and guess who were those that responded
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=330687
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=558703

Self moderating threads are moderated by the creator itself so moderator is not going to involve anything related to it. In the recent times we can see lot of accounts shilling for adkinsbet which is already discussed on Meta section but there will be no further actions on them unless the violate forum rules.
Unfortunately the scammers are using this hole of the unofficial rules we have.
Btw, you might want to change the latter part of the subject field.
Since the mods are helpless because of the unofficial rules for this very reason I thought you use the title that I have. I have not personal complain against any mod. They are doing their job.

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Self moderating threads are moderated by the creator itself so moderator is not going to involve anything related to it. In the recent times we can see lot of accounts shilling for adkinsbet which is already discussed on Meta section but there will be no further actions on them unless the violate forum rules.
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Let's see how long it takes for that mikelsmith2020 puppetmaster to delete this as if this message is somehow offensive to Adkins.

No I did not had to pay eny fee. I had a balance of 127 mbtc and withdrew the entire balance and received the complete 127 mbtc.
the fee for the blockchain was paid by adkinsbet

Care to post a screenshot of the record from Adkins webpage in your withdrawal history page as proof?
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I received a PM with this link.
Who sent you that link? Was it "Lavander"?
- If he/she just randomly sent you a PM with those things, you could also report that message to one of the admins.

29. Sending unsolicited PMs, including but not limited to advertising and flood, is not allowed.

Let's lists the lies until they are proven true.
Have you notified the user in question, to provide proof of some sort in this thread?

Btw, you might want to change the latter part of the subject field.
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That topic is self-moderated by mikelsmith2020 with 71 deleted posts so far, and forum moderators are not deleting those posts.
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I think you were right when create this topic, it could become a reference topic, a document for others to refer to in the future. You can update it regularly to protect everyone.
But I don't agree with this one
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mods are not doing anything
I don't think mods are responsible for moderating all posts in this forum to see if they lie or tell the truth. Mods only censor invalid topics, phishing posts are not censored.


Just leave negative feedback on their profile, is that enough?
legendary
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List of lies

Deposited 100 mBTC and make a withdrawal for 127 mbtc, received in about 3 hours.
After the successful bets, I will make a deposit again and see if I can get some money.

I received my withdrawal from Adkinsbet in about 5 hours, it was about 800$
Can you try to process my withdrawal next time a bit faster than 5 hours please?

i had some good bets today on the site and won 20 mbtc. i know, for many people it is nothing but for me is 20 mbtc still a lot of money its about 1000$ and now let us hope i dont blow it  Cheesy
legendary
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Deposited 100 mBTC and make a withdrawal for 127 mbtc, received in about 3 hours.
After the successful bets, I will make a deposit again and see if I can get some money.

If I ask for a blockchain evidence then my post will be deleted from that topic. So here is my topic. I am pretty sure those users who are making post like this are bunches of liars. I received a PM with this link. They deposited 100 mbtc and received 127 mbtc. There will be more posts like this. Can anyone (including the guy who PMed) bring this sorts of links which are making false claim on this post? These users are not bound to show proves but considering the reputation this bookie have, it's pretty obvious that these are lies. Let's lists the lies until they are proven true.
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