Not sure this is working out, folks tend to see it as "high risk" and "Scam", right out of the boat.
There is much less risk if I have some verification, people say.. Well how about your credentials can we see it?
(a) Who's going to vet my credentials on here.
(b) Do you have the instruments to conduct ID verifications?
Its incredibly frustrating that we cannot see the progress with Bitcoins lending, even with some transparency. I will try and get something with encryption and possibly, another page with X#provider, so this way verification is done on your own log, instead of submitting a scan of your license or other verification documents.
I will start from the bottom again, because this is pointless.
Topic: Loans - Business Loans - Over $50 - 1BTC no Collateral. (Read 941 times)
So you asked for potential borrowers to send you copy of sensible documents while you won't give yours for verification purpose ?
You can claim what you want but people here won't see you as a trustable party.
And, in my opininon, asking such documents for a loan in bitcoin is contrary to the nature of bitcoin itself.
Since nobody will give you these type of documents you asked for a bitcoin loan, better save your time and close this thread.
You can claim what you want but people here won't see you as a trustable party.
And, in my opininon, asking such documents for a loan in bitcoin is contrary to the nature of bitcoin itself.
Since nobody will give you these type of documents you asked for a bitcoin loan, better save your time and close this thread.
Nope, I thought he said, send the docs., to a trusted member and let them handle the data and I provide the loans..
..probably where you live, not where I'm from, the lenders who are more confident in their collateral, get ripoff, not sure what part of the information I am requesting makes you believe that I could steal it and use it?
not closing the thread, this offer is not meant for scammers, I do my due diligence it doesn't matter if I lend you 50 bucks!
i am talking about documents that verify who you are, the same stuff you requets from others.
i still think you want to get those docs from ppl to scam until you proof different. if you really tell us you would not have any clue how the informations you request could be used to scam, you actually dont understand what you ask for. its that easy.
So you asked for potential borrowers to send you copy of sensible documents while you won't give yours for verification purpose ?
You can claim what you want but people here won't see you as a trustable party.
And, in my opininon, asking such documents for a loan in bitcoin is contrary to the nature of bitcoin itself.
Since nobody will give you these type of documents you asked for a bitcoin loan, better save your time and close this thread.
You can claim what you want but people here won't see you as a trustable party.
And, in my opininon, asking such documents for a loan in bitcoin is contrary to the nature of bitcoin itself.
Since nobody will give you these type of documents you asked for a bitcoin loan, better save your time and close this thread.
Nope, I thought he said, send the docs., to a trusted member and let them handle the data and I provide the loans..
..probably where you live, not where I'm from, the lenders who are more confident in their collateral, get ripoff, not sure what part of the information I am requesting makes you believe that I could steal it and use it?
not closing the thread, this offer is not meant for scammers, I do my due diligence it doesn't matter if I lend you 50 bucks!
So you asked for potential borrowers to send you copy of sensible documents while you won't give yours for verification purpose ?
You can claim what you want but people here won't see you as a trustable party.
And, in my opininon, asking such documents for a loan in bitcoin is contrary to the nature of bitcoin itself.
Since nobody will give you these type of documents you asked for a bitcoin loan, better save your time and close this thread.
You can claim what you want but people here won't see you as a trustable party.
And, in my opininon, asking such documents for a loan in bitcoin is contrary to the nature of bitcoin itself.
Since nobody will give you these type of documents you asked for a bitcoin loan, better save your time and close this thread.
are you willing to documents that verifies to a trusted member here for a review?
I would take a look at it you can send it to loans (at) getprypto (dot) com
if a more trusted members offers to do so, would be cool
If I'm willing to send documents to a trusted member (like an 'escrow') for review? NOPE. Unless you can do all the following..
what steps does he/she takes for due diligence.. any verification solutions or providers to conduct accurate results?
I provide internal financial and background examinations, because so far, I can verify if the customer has a business, identity and address verifications for up to ten (10) years, pull any commercial and consumer credit history and score from any credit bureau (not hard pulls but commercial reports ex., Transunion, D&B, experian ect..) at cents to the dollar.
I have internal hosted 3rd party solutions, that let's me search relevant publicly available information online as permitted by law.
SO, Again, I don't think someone here can actively help me verify this material, when I can use third party providers and my best judgement to exercise caution when appropriate.
Collateral here, is not even something reliable, unless is tangible goods.
I hope you're serious and not just trolling around,
Is a KYC process to verify customers, for ex., I am required to verify businesses resale tax contributions, and validate business owners in order to commit/ payment processor because is mandatory for all US banks..
Same process here, except when you think about it Requirement A and C, would be a better combination, because just about anyone can falsify documents now a days.
Instead of bashing me here, you should share and contribute to the thread, I have to be careful who I lend, just about when I crossed out the ID requirement, my inbox started getting scam requests. See my point?
So in fact, to answer your question, the ID and Business Verification Docs., are a much better chance in recouping my monies or, convince debtors to pay the debt, or is the sum is worth it attempt to locate the debtor. Again, these are just bitcoins, even collecting unpaid debt is impossible at times, and it is why I ask for eBay or Amazon seller feedback links, and don't get me wrong it is not easy filtering the goods apples from the bad.
Also, is not like I would start everyone with high sums, impossible, I am transparent not blind, to be efficient without transparency there is no trust and to gain trust you need to verify who you do business with.
If this doesn't work out of course I will discontinue lending here.
Please do.
So are you saying that one can just send over his legal name and get a loan? No real point in requirements A/B then.
Is a KYC process to verify customers, for ex., I am required to verify businesses resale tax contributions, and validate business owners in order to commit/ payment processor because is mandatory for all US banks..
Same process here, except when you think about it Requirement A and C, would be a better combination, because just about anyone can falsify documents now a days.
Instead of bashing me here, you should share and contribute to the thread, I have to be careful who I lend, just about when I crossed out the ID requirement, my inbox started getting scam requests. See my point?
So in fact, to answer your question, the ID and Business Verification Docs., are a much better chance in recouping my monies or, convince debtors to pay the debt, or is the sum is worth it attempt to locate the debtor. Again, these are just bitcoins, even collecting unpaid debt is impossible at times, and it is why I ask for eBay or Amazon seller feedback links, and don't get me wrong it is not easy filtering the goods apples from the bad.
Also, is not like I would start everyone with high sums, impossible, I am transparent not blind, to be efficient without transparency there is no trust and to gain trust you need to verify who you do business with.
If this doesn't work out of course I will discontinue lending here.
I could actually give you my ID if you need it
Please do.
Requirement C:
Copy of your Drivers' License. Your name is just fine.
So are you saying that one can just send over his legal name and get a loan? No real point in requirements A/B then.
are you willing to documents that verifies to a trusted member here for a review?
I would take a look at it you can send it to loans (at) getprypto (dot) com
if a more trusted members offers to do so, would be cool
I hope you're serious and not just trolling around,
Is a KYC process to verify customers, for ex., I am required to verify businesses resale tax contributions, and validate business owners in order to commit/ payment processor because is mandatory for all US banks..
Same process here, except when you think about it Requirement A and C, would be a better combination, because just about anyone can falsify documents now a days.
Instead of bashing me here, you should share and contribute to the thread, I have to be careful who I lend, just about when I crossed out the ID requirement, my inbox started getting scam requests. See my point?
So in fact, to answer your question, the ID and Business Verification Docs., are a much better chance in recouping my monies or, convince debtors to pay the debt, or is the sum is worth it attempt to locate the debtor. Again, these are just bitcoins, even collecting unpaid debt is impossible at times, and it is why I ask for eBay or Amazon seller feedback links, and don't get me wrong it is not easy filtering the goods apples from the bad.
Also, is not like I would start everyone with high sums, impossible, I am transparent not blind, to be efficient without transparency there is no trust and to gain trust you need to verify who you do business with.
If this doesn't work out of course I will discontinue lending here.
Please do.
So are you saying that one can just send over his legal name and get a loan? No real point in requirements A/B then.
Is a KYC process to verify customers, for ex., I am required to verify businesses resale tax contributions, and validate business owners in order to commit/ payment processor because is mandatory for all US banks..
Same process here, except when you think about it Requirement A and C, would be a better combination, because just about anyone can falsify documents now a days.
Instead of bashing me here, you should share and contribute to the thread, I have to be careful who I lend, just about when I crossed out the ID requirement, my inbox started getting scam requests. See my point?
So in fact, to answer your question, the ID and Business Verification Docs., are a much better chance in recouping my monies or, convince debtors to pay the debt, or is the sum is worth it attempt to locate the debtor. Again, these are just bitcoins, even collecting unpaid debt is impossible at times, and it is why I ask for eBay or Amazon seller feedback links, and don't get me wrong it is not easy filtering the goods apples from the bad.
Also, is not like I would start everyone with high sums, impossible, I am transparent not blind, to be efficient without transparency there is no trust and to gain trust you need to verify who you do business with.
If this doesn't work out of course I will discontinue lending here.
I could actually give you my ID if you need it
Please do.
Requirement C:
Copy of your Drivers' License. Your name is just fine.
So are you saying that one can just send over his legal name and get a loan? No real point in requirements A/B then.
I could actually give you my ID if you need it
Please do.
Requirement C:
Copy of your Drivers' License. Your name is just fine.
So are you saying that one can just send over his legal name and get a loan? No real point in requirements A/B then.
Identity theft? You are required more than that to actually steal someone's identity.
All of these combined; SSN, DOB, ID, ADDRESS<
I could actually give you my ID if you need it, right now there is no way to steal your identity or business, by asking you for this information.
I provide dropshipping and this is information is something required, I would ask my customers, so you would say people steal identities everyday because you're asked for your ID, FEIN (not your social) and a copy of your business license?
Sounds like shit, companies can obtain your EIN, by just giving the name of the company. I can verify and obtain a copy of your business records (validate at least), with the state you incorporate or the county in which you founded your business.
However, obtaining a certificate of good standing cost at least $19.00 or more.
The problem seems, you give someone 1BTC worth and w/o the collateral, how do you know they won't run off with the money, at least if you have an Amazon or eBay business, or an established business you could at least write a bad review against the business or collect depending on the amount.
All of these combined; SSN, DOB, ID, ADDRESS<
I could actually give you my ID if you need it, right now there is no way to steal your identity or business, by asking you for this information.
I provide dropshipping and this is information is something required, I would ask my customers, so you would say people steal identities everyday because you're asked for your ID, FEIN (not your social) and a copy of your business license?
Sounds like shit, companies can obtain your EIN, by just giving the name of the company. I can verify and obtain a copy of your business records (validate at least), with the state you incorporate or the county in which you founded your business.
However, obtaining a certificate of good standing cost at least $19.00 or more.
The problem seems, you give someone 1BTC worth and w/o the collateral, how do you know they won't run off with the money, at least if you have an Amazon or eBay business, or an established business you could at least write a bad review against the business or collect depending on the amount.
lol identity theft attempt. ..
OP, do you really think that someone will fall for this pathetic scam attempt ? Nobody's gonna give these information (not really useful for a bitcoin loan) to a newbie account.
I see a loans in the Long term offers section that doesn't require that much requirement, with those requirement you are asking, the documents can be exposed as well as the real identity of the borrower.
The type of inormation you request could be easily used to scam the shit out of everything. i strongly advise everyone here not deal with you...
Ok, Here it goes. Well, I would like to start lending - Yes I know, the no collateral rule - this thread is for business/individuals with businesses.
People are saying, how with this info anyone can steal your identity - So just provide requirement A and your name. If, you provide your FEIN, even better as it cost me to validate this info. NO ID necessary.
If you need a loan $50 - 1BTC, Business owners or folks with online businesses, freelancers or home businesses. See REQUIREMENTS combination of one or more copies:
Requirement A:
Any, of the following copy of your certificate.
Domestic Profit Corporations - Good Standing, Legal Existence, Dissolution
Foreign Corporations - Good Standing, Registration, Revocation, Withdrawal
Non Profit Corporations - Good Standing, Legal Existence, Dissolution
Domestic Limited Partnership - Legal Existence
Foreign Limited Partnership - Registration
Voluntary Associations & Trusts - Legal Existence, Fees Paid
Domestic LLC - Legal Existence
Foreign LLC - Registration
Domestic LLP - Legal Existence
Foreign LLP - Registration
Sole Proprietorship,
Copy of Current Business or Occupational License
-OR-
Copy of Current Tax Registration Certificate, Permit or Declaration for any State or Local Tax.
-OR-
Copy of Fictitious or Assumed Name Certificate.
Requirement B:
FEIN (EIN - employer identification number) - - I will verify you are a business or Authorized officer of a business. optional
Requirement C:
Copy of your Drivers' License. Your name is just fine.
Why all this information? No, I am not asking for the real cert., just copies, and is fair enough if you want me to trust my coins. No collateral, but I need this information in case you default.
- Why folks may want this loan? Some people just need coins, some folks simply sell on Amazon or eBay and have register businesses, or even business certificates, this is not collateral. Instead, based on your company I may calculate the risk.
I am entitled to denied any loan request for whatever reason, no explanation.
How to REQ for a loan:
Message title must start with.. '[LOAN REQ] Need Loan..'
Loan Amount:
Business type:
eBay/Amazon Feedback Links (if any):
Next sit tie, let me respond, I will send you the email where to send the documents, and then after I received the copies and verify your business, I would issue the loan.
People are saying, how with this info anyone can steal your identity - So just provide requirement A and your name. If, you provide your FEIN, even better as it cost me to validate this info. NO ID necessary.
If you need a loan $50 - 1BTC, Business owners or folks with online businesses, freelancers or home businesses. See REQUIREMENTS combination of one or more copies:
Requirement A:
Any, of the following copy of your certificate.
Domestic Profit Corporations - Good Standing, Legal Existence, Dissolution
Foreign Corporations - Good Standing, Registration, Revocation, Withdrawal
Non Profit Corporations - Good Standing, Legal Existence, Dissolution
Domestic Limited Partnership - Legal Existence
Foreign Limited Partnership - Registration
Voluntary Associations & Trusts - Legal Existence, Fees Paid
Domestic LLC - Legal Existence
Foreign LLC - Registration
Domestic LLP - Legal Existence
Foreign LLP - Registration
Sole Proprietorship,
Copy of Current Business or Occupational License
-OR-
Copy of Current Tax Registration Certificate, Permit or Declaration for any State or Local Tax.
-OR-
Copy of Fictitious or Assumed Name Certificate.
Requirement B:
FEIN (EIN - employer identification number) - - I will verify you are a business or Authorized officer of a business. optional
Requirement C:
Why all this information? No, I am not asking for the real cert., just copies, and is fair enough if you want me to trust my coins. No collateral, but I need this information in case you default.
- Why folks may want this loan? Some people just need coins, some folks simply sell on Amazon or eBay and have register businesses, or even business certificates, this is not collateral. Instead, based on your company I may calculate the risk.
I am entitled to denied any loan request for whatever reason, no explanation.
How to REQ for a loan:
Message title must start with.. '[LOAN REQ] Need Loan..'
Loan Amount:
Business type:
eBay/Amazon Feedback Links (if any):
Next sit tie, let me respond, I will send you the email where to send the documents, and then after I received the copies and verify your business, I would issue the loan.
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