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Quote from: light_warrior on May 12, 2023, 01:52:43 PM

God, how many times can we talk about this. Same thing, same thing, same thing. Everyone who writes in the Ukrainian locale has long understood. That it is necessary to be more active and blah-blah-blah. Write something new, not these all the time repeating mantras about activity.

If not to close the topic then this will last for some time each time topic is bumped as there are many users who don't read the topic but answer only the title of it or the first post.

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God, how many times can we talk about this. Same thing, same thing, same thing. Everyone who writes in the Ukrainian locale has long understood. That it is necessary to be more active and blah-blah-blah. Write something new, not these all the time repeating mantras about activity.

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Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:11:29 AM

I am aware, that this question was repeatedly raised, but since nothing in this regard, unfortunately, is not changing, I want to once again appeal to the administrators with a request to create a separate Ukrainian branch with its child boards, moderators and so on like many other languages/locations have. There are quite a lot of Ukrainian-speaking users on the forum, there is not enough general topic for discussion of issues, it is not active precisely because it is inconvenient to search for information there due to the fact that it is fast flowing. The demand for a separate board has existed for a long time, and there are enough reasons for its creation. I will be grateful to the administrators for considering this issue, and to the other members, especially the Ukrainian-speaking ones, for supporting and spreading this idea.

UPD: I am grateful to everyone for suggestions and advice. I understand that creating a separate board is a matter heavily dependent on user activity. From what I see on our local thread, the members are interested in creating one. I will try to involve more users in discussing various issues in the local thread and explain to them the need to be active there in order to realise the desire to get a separate board.

Your community must be strong enough in terms of the number of members and the level of active participation in the forum for your wishes to come true. From now on, build a local community on a strong social network, you could start by identifying the key influencers and thought leaders in the community. Engage with them through social media and show support for their work

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 29, 2023, 08:26:05 AM

Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:11:29 AM

There are quite a lot of Ukrainian-speaking users on the forum, there is not enough general topic for discussion of issues, it is not active precisely because it is inconvenient to search for information there due to the fact that it is fast flowing. The demand for a separate thread has existed for a long time, and there are enough reasons for its creation.

I don't think it's make sense to say the thread is not active because of fast flowing, what about the Nigerian when they also start with one thread and then @theymos create a local board for them since they're have a good amount of traffic.

I can't read your language and Russian language, but my assumption you guys are more active in Russian board, correct?

That's make @theymos think no need to create Ukrainian board because Russian board is already enough.

As Jawhead999 had mentioned, there's every possibility for Theymos to take into account the next set of locale to get their own local given a board, but before this, the Ukrainian thread has to be very active, mebers needed to post there and increase the activities on the locale thread, one of the criterials taken into consideration is to check on their activities and how active the members are, the numbers of influential members amidst them of reputable character and good asset to the forum, it may take a while before such request could be attended to, because who knows maybe they were under surveillance as part of their assessment before such request could be granted or not.

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Quote from: Rikafip on April 29, 2023, 10:15:50 AM

So, if they want their own local board, the least they can do is to actually be active in their local thread and if we learned anything when it comes to creating local boards is that theymos won't create new unless there is a real need for one. ~60 posts written in the last year or so shows that they are not really interested so why should forum staff bother?

Exactly like the Nigerian community was active in their thread and lot of members were asking it from a long time so the engagement was up for the whole section.There were lot of known members from Nigerian community and theymos find it suitable after a long time to give them a separate board and there are lot of posts also according to your local board activity charts also.

So if you are demanding any new local board the base should be strong for it otherwise it will be in vain as if the members won't be taking active part in discussion why would he even think about it? But there are still more updates pending on which theymos will work upon first of all.

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Having read all the responds to my initial suggestion and having thought a lot about what could make the Ukrainian thread more active in order to motivate the creation of a full separate board, I decided to offer the following. Recently I have been more active on the forum, I was lucky to receive some merits, that's why now I have some sMerits to give to somebody else. I would like to give them to the active members in our local Ukrainian thread, who will share some relevant and interesting information or suggestions/analysis about current situation in the crypto world (preferably connected to Ukrainian reality as well). If some of the Ukrainian speaking members find this initiative interesting and potentially useful for the development of our local board, they can take part in it and help to make the Ukrainian thread more active, with more merit givers there. I totally understand that I am not a merit source or at least someone who obtains a large amount of merits every day, but I guess, everyone have to start from some point. I hope I`ll find support and together we will make more efforts to make Ukrainian thread more active and alive.

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Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:11:29 AM

I am aware, that this question was repeatedly raised, but since nothing in this regard, unfortunately, is not changing, I want to once again appeal to the administrators with a request to create a separate Ukrainian branch with its child boards, moderators and so on like many other languages/locations have. There are quite a lot of Ukrainian-speaking users on the forum, there is not enough general topic for discussion of issues, it is not active precisely because it is inconvenient to search for information there due to the fact that it is fast flowing. The demand for a separate board has existed for a long time, and there are enough reasons for its creation. I will be grateful to the administrators for considering this issue, and to the other members, especially the Ukrainian-speaking ones, for supporting and spreading this idea.

The local language topic for your country is almost totally inactive with only 2-5 posts monthly. There have been only 2 posts in the last 30 days out of which one post was deleted and one was your own. Which is not applicable to request for a local board. If you want to get local board then try to post atleast 250-300 monthly and for that all you need to do is invite members from your country to be active on local topic and try to increase new users.

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Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:33:10 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 29, 2023, 08:26:05 AM

I can't read your language and Russian language, but my assumption you guys are more active in Russian board, correct?

That's make @theymos think no need to create Ukrainian board because Russian board is already enough.

No offence, but considering the ongoing war russia started against Ukraine, I believe it is a little bit cruel to suppose that Ukrainian speaking users would want to write in russian board, communicate with local members and be cool with that.

The fact, that most Ukrainians know russian language does not mean that they would not like to have their own board where they can communicate in their own language.

In the first place you guys shouldn't have merged into Russian board knowing some day you would be requesting for your own Ukrainian board. Having Ukrainian participating actively in Russia local board eliminates any need to create a Ukraine owned local board.

Like what is the possibility that if given the board at this moment that almost all Ukrainians actively participating in Russia board instead of your local thread would wanna resort to using the local board when currently they aren't showing convincing participation in your local thread but rather flooding that of Russia. Have you considered the activeness of Pakistans in their local thread and others compared to that of Ukraine but are yet to have a local child board of theirs.

Am not against anyone requesting for a local board but from your statement it's obvious your idea was borne out due to the ongoing war between the two warring countries. And we're hopeful this war is going to end very soon for normalcy to take it's course. But then the war shouldn't be a locus point why you should be demanding a local board of yours. When the timing is ripe am sure @Theymos in his discretion would definitely see to it's ratification.

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Since you stated your mind fine I know this is not just thing of coming to air out how you feels or what should be done according to how you felt it. A local board can be requested but it's from how active, putting efforts to make sure you people are organized maybe after locating a special thread for Ukrainians you all come together post as one family sharing things in common also discussing on how your local board can be achieved without you moving individually to request for this offer.

Well no doubt that there are lot of Ukraine users here but that should be enough reasons for you all to united and come in one voice in seeking for the request I think it will be more presentable to Thymos and many other users here to support the request just as the way we did for our local board.

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Quote from: Rikafip on April 29, 2023, 11:08:44 AM

I don't think that you are looking at things neutrally or objectively if you think that its unfair for Ukrainians not to have their own local board while Nigerians do because getting a local board is much more than about which language has been used.

First I meant about language. They can use both Ukrainian and Russian languages and perhaps it is reason they still feel comfortable to use Russian local board which is one of biggest local boards.

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What you forgot to mention is that Nigerians got their local board by being consistently active for several years. They earned it by their effort and no one handed it out to them with the hope that they might be active in the future. If they were as (in)active as Ukrainians are, they certainly woulnd't get their own local board.

Just to add that I have nothng against Ukraine local board (on the contrary, I am a big supporter of local boards) but if they are not initially interested in being active in their own local board, what's the point in creating one?

Second, I did not look at their statistics, honestly.

Nevertheless, if they feel that they have demand for that board, they must raise it first, then they can proceed it with something more. Neutrally said, if language is a main factor to create a local board, Nigerian local board should not be created as I see. I agree with you that two biggest factors are: demand and intensity of local activities. The latter one seems to be weak at the moment but they can improve it.

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Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:11:29 AM

I am aware, that this question was repeatedly raised, but since nothing in this regard, unfortunately, is not changing, I want to once again appeal to the administrators with a request to create a separate Ukrainian branch with its child boards, moderators and so on like many other languages/locations have. There are quite a lot of Ukrainian-speaking users on the forum, there is not enough general topic for discussion of issues, it is not active precisely because it is inconvenient to search for information there due to the fact that it is fast flowing. The demand for a separate board has existed for a long time, and there are enough reasons for its creation. I will be grateful to the administrators for considering this issue, and to the other members, especially the Ukrainian-speaking ones, for supporting and spreading this idea.

I am a supporter of progress, enlargement, and advancement, so your request is not out of place based on my ideology. I visited the Ukrainian thread and I discovered that it is not very active. I have also seen some countries that have local boards that look like a waste of space in the forum because these boards are practically dormant. I also discovered that the Ukrainian board was even more active last year than this year. I am guessing that the war might have contributed to it because many citizens have been destabilized. Your appeal will be strong if the thread activity increase and you mobilize more support for this request. Wishing you peace in your land and success in your request.

Quote from: SamReomo on April 29, 2023, 11:15:07 AM

You should also keep in mind that there are some good and active threads from other countries who want their local board. Let's take the example of Pakistan local thread, the users in that local thread are doing their best to have their own local board, but still the local board is pending. Of course the priority will always be given to the ones who will do their best for the forum.

Members from Pakistan deserve a local board and hopefully, the administrator will consider your request. Pakistani have prominent members and their activity and contribution to the forum is commendable. Don't be discouraged, keep pushing.

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The best option for you and other users of Ukraine is to be active on your local thread so that the administrators should see some good activities in the local thread. Once the admins see some good activities done by Ukraine people in their local thread then the final decision of creating the local board will be decided by Theymos. So it's better to keep your local thread active.

You should also keep in mind that there are some good and active threads from other countries who want their local board. Let's take the example of Pakistan local thread, the users in that local thread are doing their best to have their own local board, but still the local board is pending. Of course the priority will always be given to the ones who will do their best for the forum.

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Quote from: tranthidung on April 29, 2023, 10:53:13 AM

Let's put political issues aside and see it neutrally. If Nigeria has their local board even they mostly use English, can speak and write well in English, why Ukraine does not have their local board? It's unfair.

I don't think that you are looking at things neutrally or objectively if you think that its unfair for Ukrainians not to have their own local board while Nigerians do because getting a local board is much more than about which language has been used.

What you forgot to mention is that Nigerians got their local board by being consistently active for several years. They earned it by their effort and no one handed it out to them with the hope that they might be active in the future. If they were as (in)active as Ukrainians are, they certainly woulnd't get their own local board.

Just to add that I have nothng against Ukraine local board (on the contrary, I am a big supporter of local boards) but if they are not initially interested in being active in their own local board, what's the point in creating one?

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your best course of action in order to get your own local board is to make the Ukrainian local thread active again, to the point that it warrants its own board. as Wapfika has said, encourage Ukranian users to actively post on the Ukranian local thread. if I remember correctly last year Excimer requested a Ukrainian local board because of the Issue going on with Russian and Ukrainian users but was told by other members that the Ukrainian local thread need to be active.

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Honestly, Ukraine is a big nation with big population and even they have similar language like Russia and other ex-Soviet nations, I support them to have their own local board.

Let's put political issues aside and see it neutrally. If Nigeria has their local board even they mostly use English, can speak and write well in English, why Ukraine does not have their local board? It's unfair.

With all the shit Russia is doing around Europe especially in Ukraine, if Ukrainians have their local boards and separate themselves from Russians if they don't want to have discussions in the same house (board), that is great for them.

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Although the idea of collecting similar Slavic languages under Russian is well-intentioned, it can create very different problems in the background. It's normal for Ukrainians to want their own local board. But the issue to be looked at here is how active the local thread is. Before Ukraine, there are very active local threads such as Pakistan and Vietnam. It's pointless to wait for such a board to be opened for Ukraine before they have their own local boards. The Ukrainian thread is not even active as far as I can see. It seems impossible to get your own board unless suddenly hundreds of Ukrainians register on the forum and keep the topic active.

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Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:33:10 AM

No offence, but considering the ongoing war russia started against Ukraine, I believe it is a little bit cruel to suppose that Ukrainian speaking users would want to write in russian board, communicate with local members and be cool with that.

While I sympathise with their struggle and I can imagine what they are going through as my country went through similar thing ~30 years ago, no one is forcing anyone to be active in Russian local board.

So, if they want their own local board, the least they can do is to actually be active in their local thread and if we learned anything when it comes to creating local boards is that theymos won't create new unless there is a real need for one. ~60 posts written in the last year or so shows that they are not really interested so why should forum staff bother?

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I am not against local board for any country but seeing your Thread i recommend you to work more to keep active your own thread. Once this thread activities catch Theymos attention we hope you will enjoy own local board like others. I don't understand one thing that RikafiP not added Ukraine in their monthly chart list. I think you also talk to Him so that its become more easy to check monthly activity (Number of posts, Active members, Merit shared).

Here you can check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231446.680

moreover active member should also be increase with some quality posting. Seniors member should engage their thread and bring new students to learn crypto here in Bitcointalk. This will increase your community and they will learn btc and crypto.

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Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:11:29 AM

I am aware, that this question was repeatedly raised, but since nothing in this regard, unfortunately, is not changing, I want to once again appeal to the administrators with a request to create a separate Ukrainian branch with its child boards, moderators and so on like many other languages/locations have. There are quite a lot of Ukrainian-speaking users on the forum, there is not enough general topic for discussion of issues, it is not active precisely because it is inconvenient to search for information there due to the fact that it is fast flowing. The demand for a separate board has existed for a long time, and there are enough reasons for its creation. I will be grateful to the administrators for considering this issue, and to the other members, especially the Ukrainian-speaking ones, for supporting and spreading this idea.

It is a matter of activity. Speaking and supporting of a new board in English in Meta but not cooperating to show activity in Укpaїнcькa (Ukrainian) topic doesn't have sense. I guess if there is a real need of Ukrainian section then you probably should cooperate with others who desire it and to spend some time in developing an existing topic so everyone will see that it is what is really demanded. When everyone will see that there is not just one post a week or a month but multiple posts a day then probably there will be a reason for admin to open a section in Ukrainian. And just supporting here in English will hardly lead to that. IMO.

When I look at the Ukrainian topic at the moment there is mostly political content and scammers in there, mostly no bitcoin discussion. I guess it is one of reasons why mostly no one is talking in there.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on April 29, 2023, 08:26:05 AM

I can't read your language and Russian language, but my assumption you guys are more active in Russian board, correct?

That's make @theymos think no need to create Ukrainian board because Russian board is already enough.

No offence, but considering the ongoing war russia started against Ukraine, I believe it is a little bit cruel to suppose that Ukrainian speaking users would want to write in russian board, communicate with local members and be cool with that.

The fact, that most Ukrainians know russian language does not mean that they would not like to have their own board where they can communicate in their own language.

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Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:11:29 AM

There are quite a lot of Ukrainian-speaking users on the forum, there is not enough general topic for discussion of issues, it is not active precisely because it is inconvenient to search for information there due to the fact that it is fast flowing. The demand for a separate thread has existed for a long time, and there are enough reasons for its creation.

I don't think it's make sense to say the thread is not active because of fast flowing, what about the Nigerian when they also start with one thread and then @theymos create a local board for them since they're have a good amount of traffic.

I can't read your language and Russian language, but my assumption you guys are more active in Russian board, correct?

That's make @theymos think no need to create Ukrainian board because Russian board is already enough.

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Mate since you're quite aware that this had been discussed already on several occasions, you would have just behaved well by making a bump up to any of the old threads with your comment instead of creating a new thread, in addition to this, i believe this is the first time you will be coming across a thread requesting for for local board and i believe you would have seen how they make such presentation, i will be honest with you this isn't good enough in convincing the admin for creating a local board for you, now not about the local board but rather the manner of your presentation.

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Quote from: Etranger on April 29, 2023, 08:11:29 AM

I am aware, that this question was repeatedly raised, but since nothing in this regard, unfortunately, is not changing, I want to once again appeal to the administrators with a request to create a separate Ukrainian branch with its child boards, moderators and so on like many other languages/locations have. There are quite a lot of Ukrainian-speaking users on the forum, there is not enough general topic for discussion of issues, it is not active precisely because it is inconvenient to search for information there due to the fact that it is fast flowing. The demand for a separate thread has existed for a long time, and there are enough reasons for its creation. I will be grateful to the administrators for considering this issue, and to the other members, especially the Ukrainian-speaking ones, for supporting and spreading this idea.

Your local thread should be more active in able for theymos to create a local board for your country. There’s only few users actively posting on your local thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=236982.5620 and that’s not enough to consider having a local board if your local thread is not yet crowded.

Pakistan local board is more active than yours but still they haven’t get the local board that they are requesting. Encourage every user on your thread to become active on discussion like what Nigeria did to have their local board.

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I am aware, that this question was repeatedly raised, but since nothing in this regard, unfortunately, is not changing, I want to once again appeal to the administrators with a request to create a separate Ukrainian branch with its child boards, moderators and so on like many other languages/locations have. There are quite a lot of Ukrainian-speaking users on the forum, there is not enough general topic for discussion of issues, it is not active precisely because it is inconvenient to search for information there due to the fact that it is fast flowing. The demand for a separate board has existed for a long time, and there are enough reasons for its creation. I will be grateful to the administrators for considering this issue, and to the other members, especially the Ukrainian-speaking ones, for supporting and spreading this idea.

UPD: I am grateful to everyone for suggestions and advice. I understand that creating a separate board is a matter heavily dependent on user activity. From what I see on our local thread, the members are interested in creating one. I will try to involve more users in discussing various issues in the local thread and explain to them the need to be active there in order to realise the desire to get a separate board.

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