Topic: Localbitcoins and legal protections (Read 951 times)
At first conclude transactions with reliable users also you can get help locally and resolve disputes. Big plus is "Login guard" which prevents unauthorized login.
What are you asking us in legal terms? I can understand the case, but if you want to know if they can legally keep your account banned even though you're explaining the situation, the answer is yes.
I think it should be moved to "service discussion" or "exchanges".
so in that case the case always goes to the vendor without a judiciary?? I think it should be moved to "service discussion" or "exchanges".
What are you asking us in legal terms? I can understand the case, but if you want to know if they can legally keep your account banned even though you're explaining the situation, the answer is yes.
I think it should be moved to "service discussion" or "exchanges".
I think it should be moved to "service discussion" or "exchanges".
From what I deduce here, you were desperate and you sent too many support ticket which caused confusion. To avoid further confusion, they have to ban you.
If you had allowed them to work at their pace it not had resulted in the ban. Again, that is why you have to secure your password and also check wallet address before sending.
If you had allowed them to work at their pace it not had resulted in the ban. Again, that is why you have to secure your password and also check wallet address before sending.
tried to edit best I could the names of those parties not directly involved but pretty much first they say they they don't deal with banks or lawyers (shady as hell), big banks.. ok, THERE are honest credit unions who provide services as well as ethical lawyers that defend the public who make less than 50k with their education.
Also, they told me that they only deal with police. I am giving them blatant proof of said incident in which I was so distraught at the bank and their lack of knowledge or reaction to my predicament that the police were called in. I didn't file a police report on a missing wallet cause wtf is that going to do. Looking back I should have cause it might have protected against ID fraud but i have no experience in this.
Since then I have changed PW on all my accounts btw and it's been a nightmare. This is why normal people are so scared of getting into BTC!
Also, they told me that they only deal with police. I am giving them blatant proof of said incident in which I was so distraught at the bank and their lack of knowledge or reaction to my predicament that the police were called in. I didn't file a police report on a missing wallet cause wtf is that going to do. Looking back I should have cause it might have protected against ID fraud but i have no experience in this.
Since then I have changed PW on all my accounts btw and it's been a nightmare. This is why normal people are so scared of getting into BTC!
So this is a log of a support ticket in which i made a ticket AGAINST someone who made one against me for fraud of $50.
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bluengold963 June 21, 2017, 8:15 p.m. - 15 minutes ago
(Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:15:01 +0000)
with no reason? even though i am able to cite local county police as proof? (county level, USA)
elena.localbitcoins June 21, 2017, 7:43 p.m. - 47 minutes ago
(Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:43:02 +0000)
Hi Michael,
as previously stated, I am afraid, we can not unban your account.
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Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 21, 2017, 12:29 p.m. - 8 hours ago
(Wed, 21 Jun 2017 04:29:30 +0000)
?? please I rely on this site to trade wtf my ID WAS TAKEN i have proof multiple reputable employers as well as local police (county: x, GA) who can testify what happened.
bluengold963 June 21, 2017, 7:25 a.m. - 13 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:25:29 +0000)
OK
yes sorry i opened up two tickets essentially saying the same things so i'm sorry for that and can you please consolidate the two tickets?
I dont know what "proof"? this require but yes from Wellsfargo that i made the claim fraud on my account due to wallet left in doctor hospital (Dr. x, augusta, ga), my primary care doctor), that I John Smith, that i was at his office around 2pm about a month ago. My employers Dr. Jane Doe, and Dr. John smith can also the almost post ((around $9-1k) because what some ppl can do with just your ID...
Would any physical hard copy signatures from these entities verify my claim? Or a simple reference by calling either ENTITIES. Banks ok. These are working doctors don't want to sign something as trivial as that for this amount of currency in btc and some/most dont know what btc is.
Oh that just reminds me i was so distraught at my bank, which is federally secured, US bank, one of the tellers called the cops "way overreaction, small town". Although i do have a bit of a temper problem to just come and cool things down. My account is with them for 15, have grandfathered accounts dating 20+ years, high valued bank accounts on them with spending limits of 300k (whatever top is).
All of these entities can write statements.
max.localbitcoins June 20, 2017, 8:31 p.m. - 23 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:31:10 +0000)
Hi!
I'm really sorry but as you have no proof of the identity theft and there is proof of the fraud we have no choice but to keep your account banned.
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Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 4:30 p.m. - 1 day, 3 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:30:35 +0000)
so basically one ticket is saying to show proof of verification, which I am able to do, and now your saying that even with that if I can't prove that I didn't dispute these claims I can't??? I did dispute them with my bank their the ones who notified Paypal
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 4:26 p.m. - 1 day, 4 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:26:13 +0000)
It's not even about the measly .03 it's my ability to trade
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 4:25 p.m. - 1 day, 4 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:25:46 +0000)
Are you serious? What if i provide the proof?? This is ridiculous
max.localbitcoins June 20, 2017, 4:17 p.m. - 1 day, 4 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:17:05 +0000)
Hi!
I'm afraid that your account will stay banned
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Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 3:40 p.m. - 1 day, 4 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 07:40:00 +0000)
It certainly was, because my identity had been stolen.. like I said i have multiple witnesses as well as a check made out as an advance to me from my employer during this time to cover the lost funds. I never made a police report because what's that going to do??
elena.localbitcoins June 20, 2017, 3:04 p.m. - 1 day, 5 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 07:04:58 +0000)
Hi Michael,
user has boody11096 provided evidence of disputed Paypal payment.
Unless you can prove that the payment was never disputed by you, we will not unblock your account.
Please, DO NOT open multiple tickets regarding same issue, because it will just prolong the resolution of this case.
Also, note that we do not contact bank and attorneys. We deal directly only with users and Police.
Thank you for contacting us!
---
Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 8:52 a.m. - 1 day, 11 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:52:08 +0000)
no explaination huh?
bluengold963 June 19, 2017, 10:36 p.m. - 1 day, 21 hours ago
(Mon, 19 Jun 2017 14:36:44 +0000)
Did you even contact my bank and attorney?
Or even read what I said?
How long before u release my funds
max.localbitcoins June 19, 2017, 4:40 p.m. - 2 days, 3 hours ago
(Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:40:46 +0000)
Hi!
The PayPal payment you've made in trade 11654283 has been reversed. Your account is banned.
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Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 18, 2017, 9:56 p.m. - 2 days, 22 hours ago
(Sun, 18 Jun 2017 13:56:49 +0000)
makes false accounts to boost his rating and then uses them to devalue other users.. I got three negative ratings on another account during this interval after which even though my log clearly shows i only made trades with this one seller, shortly after I call my bank and claim identity fraud. This has affected my life and peace of mind btw so i have multiple witnesses who can scan their ids.
(Wed, 21 Jun 2017 12:15:01 +0000)
with no reason? even though i am able to cite local county police as proof? (county level, USA)
elena.localbitcoins June 21, 2017, 7:43 p.m. - 47 minutes ago
(Wed, 21 Jun 2017 11:43:02 +0000)
Hi Michael,
as previously stated, I am afraid, we can not unban your account.
---
Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 21, 2017, 12:29 p.m. - 8 hours ago
(Wed, 21 Jun 2017 04:29:30 +0000)
?? please I rely on this site to trade wtf my ID WAS TAKEN i have proof multiple reputable employers as well as local police (county: x, GA) who can testify what happened.
bluengold963 June 21, 2017, 7:25 a.m. - 13 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 23:25:29 +0000)
OK
yes sorry i opened up two tickets essentially saying the same things so i'm sorry for that and can you please consolidate the two tickets?
I dont know what "proof"? this require but yes from Wellsfargo that i made the claim fraud on my account due to wallet left in doctor hospital (Dr. x, augusta, ga), my primary care doctor), that I John Smith, that i was at his office around 2pm about a month ago. My employers Dr. Jane Doe, and Dr. John smith can also the almost post ((around $9-1k) because what some ppl can do with just your ID...
Would any physical hard copy signatures from these entities verify my claim? Or a simple reference by calling either ENTITIES. Banks ok. These are working doctors don't want to sign something as trivial as that for this amount of currency in btc and some/most dont know what btc is.
Oh that just reminds me i was so distraught at my bank, which is federally secured, US bank, one of the tellers called the cops "way overreaction, small town". Although i do have a bit of a temper problem to just come and cool things down. My account is with them for 15, have grandfathered accounts dating 20+ years, high valued bank accounts on them with spending limits of 300k (whatever top is).
All of these entities can write statements.
max.localbitcoins June 20, 2017, 8:31 p.m. - 23 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:31:10 +0000)
Hi!
I'm really sorry but as you have no proof of the identity theft and there is proof of the fraud we have no choice but to keep your account banned.
---
Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 4:30 p.m. - 1 day, 3 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:30:35 +0000)
so basically one ticket is saying to show proof of verification, which I am able to do, and now your saying that even with that if I can't prove that I didn't dispute these claims I can't??? I did dispute them with my bank their the ones who notified Paypal
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 4:26 p.m. - 1 day, 4 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:26:13 +0000)
It's not even about the measly .03 it's my ability to trade
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 4:25 p.m. - 1 day, 4 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:25:46 +0000)
Are you serious? What if i provide the proof?? This is ridiculous
max.localbitcoins June 20, 2017, 4:17 p.m. - 1 day, 4 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 08:17:05 +0000)
Hi!
I'm afraid that your account will stay banned
---
Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 3:40 p.m. - 1 day, 4 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 07:40:00 +0000)
It certainly was, because my identity had been stolen.. like I said i have multiple witnesses as well as a check made out as an advance to me from my employer during this time to cover the lost funds. I never made a police report because what's that going to do??
elena.localbitcoins June 20, 2017, 3:04 p.m. - 1 day, 5 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 07:04:58 +0000)
Hi Michael,
user has boody11096 provided evidence of disputed Paypal payment.
Unless you can prove that the payment was never disputed by you, we will not unblock your account.
Please, DO NOT open multiple tickets regarding same issue, because it will just prolong the resolution of this case.
Also, note that we do not contact bank and attorneys. We deal directly only with users and Police.
Thank you for contacting us!
---
Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 20, 2017, 8:52 a.m. - 1 day, 11 hours ago
(Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:52:08 +0000)
no explaination huh?
bluengold963 June 19, 2017, 10:36 p.m. - 1 day, 21 hours ago
(Mon, 19 Jun 2017 14:36:44 +0000)
Did you even contact my bank and attorney?
Or even read what I said?
How long before u release my funds
max.localbitcoins June 19, 2017, 4:40 p.m. - 2 days, 3 hours ago
(Mon, 19 Jun 2017 08:40:46 +0000)
Hi!
The PayPal payment you've made in trade 11654283 has been reversed. Your account is banned.
---
Best regards,
LocalBitcoins
bluengold963 June 18, 2017, 9:56 p.m. - 2 days, 22 hours ago
(Sun, 18 Jun 2017 13:56:49 +0000)
makes false accounts to boost his rating and then uses them to devalue other users.. I got three negative ratings on another account during this interval after which even though my log clearly shows i only made trades with this one seller, shortly after I call my bank and claim identity fraud. This has affected my life and peace of mind btw so i have multiple witnesses who can scan their ids.
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