Topic: Localcoin.is - Plagiarized Whitepaper (Read 1388 times)

Does anyone here have any contact details for Fluke? any info on him at all?

Still he's stolen 0.73BTC from me and I'm trying my best to track down his real identity.

Hello,  Fluke.

It has been months now since our quandary. We have yet to receive any rectification, and nor expect to. Can you please give us control of our wallet?

Ok so as an outsider considering investing in this project well I'd like to start with no bad publicity is a good thing but all good things normally have their critics and for many reasons with jealousy being a major factor.

All I can get out of this is that a dodgy white paper was released. Has that been fixed with an original based white paper?

Some work was done and has not been paid for to an alleged amount of 17k. This has not been disputed infact acknowledge with a comment stating "make it 500k it won't matter your still not getting paid". It could be fair to assume the work was not done properly.

After an initial payment was not made this person then went and spent $4700 to sub contract the video work which was then denied. Did this video meet standards? Why would you subcontract the work out anyway?

So please there is a lot of questions I would like answered before you label this whole project as a scam when really it could all just be about some work that wasn't done in the manner it should of been and didn't meet such standards as agreed, hence was not paid for. Which leaves me thinking would I pay someone for doing a job they didn't do as agreed or properly? No.

I have personally tested the exchange by depositing and successfully withdrawing Eth and LTC. It is a very nice user friendly, smooth running platform that can work on a $50 phone. It seem a lot of work has been put into this and if this is original then it's hard to see all this work being made to scam when this work has a future especially with the principles based on fees and rules. It has a big chance of setting new standards in the trading world.

So before labelling this entire project a scam over this one incident could you please answer these questions for me and any other possible investor looking at this project:

- I feel the stage name being used "Fluke Hawkins" is a little worrying for the person running the whole project. Which leaves a few questions in my mind as why not use your real name, is there any other ventures that Fluke has had that turned out a scam or any project he ran that people lost money? A bit of research shows that Fluke Hawkins is actually a character in a game called MDK, and an interesting read to say the least and is the picture Fluke uses as his avatar in screenshots from this thread so yes it is based on him. But what weight does this hold?

- Did the dodgy whitepaper get replaced with an original?

- Apart from the undisputed non payment of 17k is there any other examples of this?

- Why should the whole project be labelled a scam based on this one incident?

- it's been a month since the last post here and the project has continued as planned and is running the bounty through this website. Is it fair to assume that it isn't a scam project as labelled and was just a case of one person didn't get paid because they did a poor job?

- Since coming upon this thread I had a look at bitshares and yes the platform is very close to the same. But that is common in the internet world with most things built coming off an open source platform. Is there anything apart from being guilty of copying bitshares that suggests there is foul play going on?

So what I guess I'm really asking here is apart from this one incident where someone didn't get paid and we can all read all the details and make up our own mind about that. Is there any other reasons with substance that suggests this whole project is a scam because please share if there is. Otherwise please remove this scam alert  as it has certainly scared me a little and I'm sure it has scared plenty of possible investors away also. Which isnt fair on the project or people like myself if really this just comes down some someone having a cry because they didn't get paid for a job that seems so obvious they didnt do properly.

Thanks for reading and please for the sake of everyone who might consider investing answer these questions one way or another.

Dear ecnalubma, the only thing what was exposed is that We ordered design decoration and start text of our White Paper from this Scumbags

this is list of Scammers from Crypto Kinetics( ex ICO Social Media Marketing) this is their topic https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50622828
http://t.me/DexterD +62 838-2410-5458
http://t.me/solankiamit +1 704-957-4014
http://t.me/KryptoKazim81 +1 860-389-7090 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kryptokazim-2505952 possible real name is Jamie Martell

the full list of evidence about fraud committed by Crypto Kinetics has been presented in this posts
http://take.ms/Dv9Ou this is full conversation with them
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50771369
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50840979

They used our technical description and the main part of the White paper is originally written by our staff

What this fraudsters from Crypto Kinetics did is they took text from the other sources and gave it to us as his own invention, basically this is fraud comited by Crypto Kinetics and we paid 3500 usd for it. This is sad the reality.

Scammer KryptoKazim ripped us off and now he is pissed because we exposed Him and his 2 friends

Also This scumbag KryptoKazim has created several accounts on this forum
The_Crypto_OG
TurnAroundTeddy
Guy-Cryptonix
agnusdei
[email protected]
All new registered and posting staff to cover up his scam blaming on us. I suppose people are not idiots and can clearly see it.

Scamer KryptoKazim has not presented any evidence at all of the work he claimed he did because we told them to good by for such a poor so called service
No video, no articles, nothing!!!!!!!!!!

We did order it, because it needed to be presented properly. The majority of text is original and written by our staff.
This is normal to hire outsource personal to do the decoration and painting + some extra descriptions and text because there are professionals who know how to do it better
turner our we got scammed by Scamer KryptoKazim and his 2 associates

Now he(Scamer KryptoKazim) is trying to blackmail us and annoyingly posting a lot of rubbish to cover up Crypto Kinetics fraud.

The new updated White Paper will be presented shortly as we are woking on it right now to fix what this fraudsters from Crypto Kinetics did

We will precent a team members linkedin profies and etc. All will be sorted.

Almost starting to promote this project, good thing I've d read this topic. Its hard to promote projects nowadays specially if you don't investigate and dissect them very well you could be an accessory to their lies without your knowledge, I salute those persons consuming time just to expose them.  

Well, some people are doing a hype on this coin in the altcoin section https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/project-localcoinis-decentralized-p2p-otc-exchange-trading-platform-5139850 I hope people are aware that this coin is now marked scam, a scam project usually employ people to hype their coin by doing forum and social media posting.

Exactly, guess the team didn't comprehend that.

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Really Fluke? You scammed my partner and I. We left your project after being blackmailed by you on our witness node and lack of payment, after all that transpired we had to step away (after results of heavy losses). Good business practices would equate to profits earned and not paying  to work for a project that turns out to be run by a scam artist. You started this by neglecting your obligations to LocalCoin as its founder. You didn't even cross reference the Whitepaper. Enough said.

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"LocalCoin's COO"

I have hundreds of pictures. All documents reviewed by Cypto Kinetics were from their website, which still I am sure has not been fully edited.

I have screenshots of all the original website spelling errors, to be released upon request.

https://how.localcoin.is/en/latest/index.html

Can both decided on the final amount??
I would suggest going with 500k ))) because you will not get anything anyway

Kryptokazim clearly states $15000+ meaning more than.. His partner is claiming it's $17k total losses. You're so cavalier about answering "you will not get anything anyway" mean while there's photographic evidence of you scamming them. Your project will inevitably fail.

LLC SCAM.

It's not a good option to buy whitepaper anyway. You can get problem no matter how trustable you are. And here everything is cleared up. Once you lied, you are possible to create more lies in the future.

SCAM.

Our first interactions. 8/14/2018


Our first agreement, which then changed as did our services.

Above is your proof, that you are in fact full of bullshit!

Mic Drop...

Seriously this whole statement is controversial it states you've never collaborated with them,  but then state you purchased a white paper from them and further implications of other services.

You just have to solve this problem as soon as possible with your team. the proof is there, you can't do anything with it besides solving this problem as soon as possible and updating your WP.

What more evidence do you need?
Your whitepaper was plagiarised and all the links from which it was plagiarized are in the OP.

Its you who hired the team and not ICOEthics. So do your part or else your reputation is at stake.
How shall you handle investors' money if you have failed to even manage the white paper situation for your project?

What do you mean with that?  We did our investigation, and your whitepaper is plagiarized, do you need better evidence than the one that is on the first post of this thread? We are not going to chase wild goose trying to find who created the paper for you. Your company is the one responsible for everything that you put out there for the public/investors, such as the website, team information and images, whitepaper, etc...

So, we do point the finger to the plagiarized whitepaper owners.  We opened this thread so you can discuss and provide evidence to your public and investors and try to convince them that it is not "your fault" and you are "not responsible" for that plagiarized whitepaper. If you wrote or someone else wrote the whitepaper for you, in the end, your company/project is the only one responsible for everything.

Total Lie, You have contacted us and offered your services, we never contacted you first
Please, provide evidence of what you say!!! Otherwise it is all bullshit



evidence, evidence, evidence please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Never asked for it, if you posted something no one asked you to do it, we have many affiliates posting things in youtube, twitter, blogs and etc

where is it?

where is it? Never ever asked you to do anything!!!!!!!

Assist with airdrop preliminaries, faq and administrative support.

We never ever asked you to do anything!!!!!!!!!! Onece again, if you did something no one asked you, you can carry one with our referral program sending users via referal link

this message was a joke, becasue you were keep nagging about you work and you wanted to get paid for it, We are getting at least 20-30 people like you contacting our admins every day

Massive LOL

Show this video

Another Lie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

check this out
Dexter is your associates which you delegated WP which took 5 month and in the end was fraud for 3500 USD


dear ICOEthics, we are waiting for them to reply since this post is started

here what we got




You are clearly see how it looks like, will not point fingers.

1. ICOEthics found Plagiarized Whitepaper
2. We contacted The team who did the Whitepaper
3. And now the team Crypto Kinetics - ICO Social Media Marketing  is trying to cover their asses

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You should investigate further more and don't point any fingers without any evidence


Can both decided on the final amount??
I would suggest going with 500k ))) because you will not get anything anyway

Ones again, Never have LocalCoin Team ordered or agreed on any services from them
Currently we have many partners who does a great job and Crypto Kinetics/ICO Social Media Marketing is not one of them and have never been!!!

Our team receive 20-30 offers every day form any sort of people of so called promoters and ICO developers and etc.
Some of them are really annoying and even use offensive language we block them straight away.
If we pay attention to all fo them we would never move forward.

If they expected us to use them after WP took 5 month to complete, they are completely wrong.

Hello, Fluke I'm assuming due to your poor writing abilities, again with the misspellings. You state "We stoped any cooperation with them a long time ago due a lack of competence and do not recommend doing any business with them
They had a website icotelegramadvisers.com now it is down and new one is here https://bitcointalk.org". This is humorous, our team left LocalCoin due to multiple issues elaborated upon below. Please review attached photos.

After 7 grueling months of working with Fluke Hawkins, the LocalCoin LLC primary funding "Bitcoin millionaire", my partner and I was scammed out of over $15,000+ usd.

My company was contracted to do marketing and set foundations for Localcoin LLC social media outlets before launching their ICO. We also placed a stake in the project buy purchasing a witness node for $5000 usd.

We first started by consulting and implementing methodology. Our team error proofed most Localcoin's copied and pasted documents taken from Bitshares (LocalCoin is a clone/fork). Everything that has came from the team has been slapped together and randomly advertised by them unprofessionally.

Our team proceeded to provide Fluke Hawkins with a bitcointalk post, 21+ Graphic project posters, steem, medium & reddit articles. Assist with airdrop preliminaries, faq and administrative support.

After much of the work was completed as agreed, we then proceeded try and collect our first payment after the flow of airdroppers came in. After 2 weeks and still no payment received I then again ask "are you ever going to pay us?" Fluke Hawkins stated "yes I need amount and address" then proceeded to block us from contact after requesting payment and a LocalCoin LLC witness vesting balance withdrawal. I have photographic proof of this scam.

He also proceeded to blackmail my partner and I on our witness node purchase from LLC, bullied into 3 active nodes on one witness. He then had all votes pulled and our nodes are no longer active. We paid $5000 usd, plus monthly payments to multiple vps suppliers.

Agreed to pay our team $5000 usd for services, then blocks after a majority of work completed.

My partner then outsourced a HD 3D project video that was nitpicked and edited costing $4700 to complete to be turned down by Fluke and then denied payment.

Beware of scammer FLUKE HAWKINS, Telegram - http://t.me/FlukeHawkins +46 76 692 23 37

I have our 7 months all photographed. Please pay us.

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Whitepaper was purchased solely from Dexter and not Crypto Kinetics. Please view Flukes links provided solidify these claims.

This project is a scam , will be sending whole lot of documentation where a single person driving this project.

This project is all outsourced , go and look bitshares feed. We were asked to buy to buy a witness node for 5k and promote project , but but , Flukr Hawkins threatens us to bring down the node if we don’t have 3 nodes working .

I personally paid $5k for his videos which was never paid of ( initially told to correct it and later on , his people discarded the video saying it don’t worth it ) who loses , we are one loses of $ 17k in this project and suggest zero people investment, all his paper work done by crypto kinetics, llc code had all bitshares footprints . This is core copy z

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A billionaire from 2009 thinks he is super guy , trust me , thoug he deleted all history due to new telegram features. I have screenshots for everything he spoke . It’s not about losing money ( crypto respect people
And make money , scamming like Fluke isn’t allowed ) on the name of decentralization, he will get all his coins to Develop ( a project he himself , just paid contractors )

here is the video  of he conversation with http://t.me/DexterD +62 838-2410-5458
http://take.ms/Dv9Ou this is full screened conversation
from today http://take.ms/ZJRmr

the 1st WP has been given us in November 2018
they've been doing it for 5 month(September 2019 - January 2019)

refer tho this investigation topic
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--5140394

Hello Team,

Can you provide evidence that you purchased the whitepaper service for the company that you mentioned?

We find your team listed on the website, but it is listed on the whitepaper, can you provide links to their professional profile/bio, so we (community/investors) can read more about their previous jobs and experiences?

Thanks.

ICOEthics, you did a great job

I have contacted you via email, in order to resolve this issue
this is frustrating because we ordered our WP from this people bellow

Crypto Kinetics - ICO Social Media Marketing - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50622828
refer to this topic fraudsters from Crypto Kinetics

http://t.me/DexterD +62 838-2410-5458
http://t.me/solankiamit +1 704-957-4014
http://t.me/KryptoKazim81 +1 860-389-7090 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kryptokazim-2505952

You can clearly say that this people just did what they did

The only think i can say, when you do the research you end up using other sources for the basic terminology description

We stoped any cooperation with them a long time ago due a lack of competence and do not recommend doing any business with them
They had a website icotelegramadvisers.com now it is down and new one is here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50622828
and whole concept is been in development since Jan 2018

can you pm me your telegram so we can to resolve this issue ASAP
We are looking into this situation now

Anyways, the work is been in the progress since march 2018
Everyone can go ahead and check our commits and branches

https://github.com/LocalCoinIS/LocalCoin-core Was started in may https://github.com/LocalCoinIS/LocalCoin-core/commit/7411879d1a989989649ddef2cc2990d59002395d
https://github.com/LocalCoinIS/LocalCoin-ui  Was started in march 2018 and have more that 1000 commits https://github.com/LocalCoinIS/LocalCoin-ui/commits/live?after=ba32a2ffa371ed0ca0b57a0caae7cbb5fdddb009+1100

Development can be traced on a daily basis https://github.com/LocalCoinIS/LocalCoin-ui/commits/dev

The new updated White Paper will be presented shortly as we are woking on it right now to fix what this fraudsters from Crypto Kinetics did

We will precent a team members linkedin profies and etc. All will be sorted.

Despite the warning, OP of the ANN then went ahead and opened up a bounty thread the next day even without responding to the accusation.
I have put up a warning in the bounty thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bountyairdroplocalcoin-llc-decentralized-exchange-platform-5135574

Not sure if Xterry is part of the team or just an announcer but seems to me he doesn't really care about his reputation in the forum.

I saw this project the other day and knew there was something off about it thou i didn't look into further detail.
Great work ICOEthics.

OP has ignored the scam accusation, we need some DT members to tag him/her so that they can wake up.

What happened: Plagiarized Whitepaper

ANN Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annlocalcoinis-decentralized-p2p-otc-exchange-trading-platform-5135104
https://archive.is/HBKRQ

Website Link: https://localcoin.is
https://archive.is/YA37i

Whitepaper Link: https://localcoin.is/downloads/LocalCoinBlockchain.pdf
https://archive.is/B5IJ1


Many parts of their whitepaper are plagiarized. Here are just a few examples: