Topic: Lock Russian section. (Read 1124 times)

Like others, I don't see any value in censoring an entire group of people because of the actions of their government.  More likely, their government will cut off their access to the forum as they do not want people appearing as dissidents.  In times like this especially, it is important to give everyone a voice.  You specifically seem to need to hear this voice so that you can understand that just because someone is Russian and their country is doing something you don't like, doesn't mean that they are evil people who should have their rights taken from them.  I'm sure many of those people are passionately against the war, probably a lot more than you are and would appreciate any normalization of their lives they can get right now.  So long as the individuals are respecting the rules of the forum and not attacking other individuals with lies or personal assaults, I don't see why they should be deplatformed. 

The representative in the forum know nothing about the killings,  they have nothing to do about it,  they are innocent,  it so painful for them to bear consequences  they know nothing about.  Every blame should be on puttins and his soldiers they are in charge of the war, I wish all this can end anytime soon for innocent people to have peace of mind.

No it doesn't and it won't. Your argument is with the regime and its army, not with the Russian people. If you can't differentiate between the two, you are the one who shouldn't be here. You think Putin asked the average Russian if they want to wage war on Ukraine? He didn't and they don't. I am in contact with 2 Russians since we had business dealings in the past. They are ashamed of their country and their Russian names. The West looks at them with contempt even if they are against the war. 

Is this the first war you have seen in your life? Did you make similar suggestions when the US bombed the shit out of the Middle East? Oh I forgot, those are Arabs and Muslims, that's OK. Now the war is in Europe, it's totally different. How about the Israelis, any sanctions for them for what they are doing in Palestine for the last 60 years? Nah, who cares, it's Arabs again. It's not like their lives are worth anything.   

If you believe putting innocent people under sanctions for what their dictator is doing, don't call yourself civilized.

And last but not least, Slava Ukraini!
You can't lose this war. Russia has already lost it morally and sooner or later they will lose on the battlefield as well.

It has already been blocked:


Please read whole topic before replying.

don't do that. suchmoon is russian



https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5924/59244804.html

Judging by the Putin's attitude toward freedom of speech, I would say that BitcoinTalk.org is more likely to be blocked in Russia than the other way around.
Interestingly, the Russian Constitution should actually guarantee freedom of thought and expression and prohibit censorship. Obviously, this is not the case, so it can only be assumed that the authoritarian, controlling Putin regime is trying to curb freedoms it doesn't like while leaving people without access to services like Facebook, Twitter and Instagram. Evidently, Putin is trying to take control of online conversation, either by having his cronies at Russia's Internet regulatory agency Roskomnadzor block websites for political reasons, or by having the courts issue injunctions for people who dare to speak against the government in public.

The bottom line is that the Russian government and some of its stooges are trying to crush freedom of expression. Russia's human rights abuses have never been worse than right now.

Satoshi also wouldn't want an imposter CSW to roam around telling the world that he's the creator.
Makes me wonder if he would want a scammer and a liar to call his coin Satoshi's Vision. I could go on...

Anyway, Satoshi aside, the section should stay simply because there are Russian speakers who don't even live in Russia. Banning them from using Russian language would be like banning Korean language because of Kim and North Korea and not giving a damn about all those people in the South.


Some of it is true because the majority of Russians support this genocide. There was even a poll where the majority said that Russia should attack the EU starting with the Baltic States and Poland, so many russians indeed are brainwashed, but we should never punish the minority because of the majority. We should be better than that.
What if you were a Russian who lives in the UK and people begun to treat you like shit all of a sudden because of something Putin did and you didn't even vote for him?

OP, you have to realise that the forum cannot act without reason. To judge all russians here for the act of their president is not in line with how educated and enlightened people should behave. Also, how will locking the Russian section of this forum be of any help or contribution to stopping the war? We can't follow blindly without reason, unless the Russian section and the people there somehow go against forum rules & regulations, i don't see a reason this should be considered.

If the request of every Tom, Dick and Harry is granted on the subject of locking different sections on this forum due to some happenings, i don't think we will still have a variety of sections.

Since the UK government is sanctioning Russia, you want Theymos to do the same. This sounds ridiculous. Locking Russia's local board would it stop the Russian from bombarding Ukraine? This forum is a welcoming forum for everyone to join, it doesn't count on your identity or calamity before you be a member of the forum. The goal of the forum is for everyone to learn and understand what crypto is all about not in another way round of banning Russia for what they do not know about

I would also suggest an effective way to hang up the nameplate "fascist and moral monster" to those accounts that most zealously support the war and putin.

What result would the ban on Russians in the forum result in the real world?

Is it a crime that Russians have got a passport that categorises them as a citizen of Russia?

Is that in any way to mean that, all Russians are in support of the on going conflict between both nations @Ukraine and Russia?

Is it just that Russians should be wiped out of the face of the earth because some dictator choose war as a means to protecting his nation from the west?

In fact, the people that should be blamed and cautioned in this whole war is the NATO and NATO member nations. What becomes our words and treaties when it stops to make meaning. It's wrong to make promises and after several years of compliance fro  every side, NATO finds a way to by-pass what was agreed upon and move further towards Russia.

We would be commiting 2 crimes to try and justify what's happening with Ukraine by victimising Russians as well. The forum is not involved in world politics and so long as its members play by its rules, such unjust practices won't be perpetuated here.

Besides, the death count isn't just on Ukraine, Ukrainians are killing Russians too!

I'm not in support of the war and would never be and even still, I don't wish any harshness towards Russia and Russians.

@Xenon131 I really understand the frustration you are feeling right now especially if you witness everything including the bombing. But just like what everyone trying to point out here, Russians in the forum aren’t supporting Putin as well as the normal citizens leaving in fear on Russia right because of there strict government. You should at least focus your attention to the Russian government and not to its people because the Russian government is doing alone this crazy shit without the consent  of its citizens.

Let’s just be united.

This is bitcoin and bitcointalk community. You are mistakenly considering it as a dirty political platform, this is not. I am sorry your son is in war and the loses of your country but the community has no business with it. Civilians do not fight, it's the dirty politicians who fight for power. Bitcoin is not for a nationality but for the world.

You must realize by now that your suggestion is wrong. In fact, to me it seems you are trying to express your personal anger towards a community who gave you a nice ground to settle down on the forum. You are no different than Putin. The world needs friendships not dictators.

What do you think? Putin and his oligarchs have bitcointalk accounts to spread propaganda? Even if they have the forum rules does not allow to get banned unless they caught on something that breaks the rules.

I am sorry the good of Earth were never there. Where was it when Iraq was destroyed, Afghanistan was destroyed, Palestine conflict, bombing in Hiroshima and Nagasaki? I am not supporting any war to be clear but at the same time I am frustrated to see these double standard mentality from the West, EU politicians and their mainstream media.

Just imagine where are we taking the mother earth? We are destroying it. And nature will avenge itself. When it will do, none of us will survive for the next moment. Let's forget hatred towards each others and spread the hand of friendship and peach.

xenon131, if dont like Russian Local Board, just go to your profile > Ignore Boards Preferences > mark them > click Change Profile, and you will never see them.

If you want to accuse every Russian for what is done to Ukraine, then you are narrow minded and we can accuse you for every criminal action any Ukrainian did.

Instead of creating this useless topic, you could have spent power, that you've spend pressing buttons while creating topic, on saying thank you to everyone who helped and donated to Ukraine. I have rarely seen any Ukrainian writing or saying simple "thank you". But all I see is "do/must/give/send".

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It's this kind of stupid shit that's been cropping up here in recent weeks why I've cut back at my posting here.

The bitcointalok forum was blocked in Russia by a court decision for some old topic about tax evasion. It is not available on search engines. Therefore, all Russian users use VPN. I think that blocking by IP address is the most stupid decision that a regulator can come up with today.

Does Putin do it along?

Well, I see you understand nothing. Russians ppl from the street do obey Putler and go into Ukraine to kill innocents ppl.


The  most cynical statement I have  ever seen.

Russians will come after your if Ukrainians will not stop them. ~14000 Russian   criminals have been already killd in Ukraine. 400+ tanks & ~80 war planes  destroyed .  But we need help from all intelligent ppl to stop Russians' war crimes   otherwise they will come to western countries and do the same.

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Theymos, pls lock Russian section. Those who are not barbarians can communicate in English. Russian war criminals have no ability to do this.

Read that as well, though there’s an on-going cybercrime as well restricting Ukrainian can’t still help same thing with Locking the section of Russian here in the forum. We should not get involve on the conflict and should remain neutral especially on ordinary people of Russia and Ukraine, because they are the victims here. This might be the only forum for them to voice out, so it should remain open.

Despite his efforts, Zack is still far from the bitcointalk standards we enjoy here. 

@OP, as long as I can freely say that Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin is a murderer and war criminal that should be held criminally accountable for his actions, and not have my ass kicked to death, I'm happy with bitcointalk forum's moderator policy. If you can't have two parties to a debate, there's something fundamentally wrong with the system.

For what please?
Are they the soldiers fighting and killing Ukrainians?

I can only agree with you if at the Russians section they are only agitating over the war to kill and are giving a threat to the forum members and nothing more, anything aside this i think is an act of inconsideration.

Everyone has the right to be a part of bitcointalk forum. Even Satoshi never forbids a certain country or a certain nation to join this forum. So, why we must exclude the Russian section? Russian section is one of the most active sections in this forum, we must appreciate what they have done to this forum. Russian members have contributed to growing this forum, it is strange if we must lock their local section.

Regarding the war (Russian invasion), we cannot blame the Russian citizens. Instead, many of them don't agree with the Russian government to carry out the invasion. In this matter, Russian members in this forum are just ordinary citizens, not a part of the Russian government. They did not participate in the war at all and never did anything to support the war. Why we must punish them?   

There’s a lot of innocent Russian here who doesn’t have the power to dictate on their own government and also afraid of their own government, so I don’t see any big reason to punish them here. Their government may banned Russian access to social media but in this forum, they are always welcome. I believe its better to lock this thread than to lock the Russian section, this is decentralized after all.

Are you crazy with your suggestion, not reason to lock Russia section or Russian member because not relationship between war and Russia member forum here. You try to make politic here and I am not agree with your why have lock Russia section, every one have freedom here what ever countries come from not any reason to lock their freedom. They not asking about war on their forum section is not enough reason why have to lock Russia section forum.

Better apology to Russia member what have your recommended here and you need really disappointed what have you did.

xenon131, although I don't agree with your request, I understand your reasons.
It’s very hard when your country is going through a war, and it’s emotionally hard for everyone.
I went through the same experience when there was a war in my country, Croatia, 1991 and I personally suffered a lot.
In our local Croatian section we also have active members from neighboring countries, Bosnia, Serbia, Montenegro due to the similarity of languages, similar to the Russian section of the forum, which includes Russian speakers from different countries.
None of us have a problem with the past and we don’t talk about it because there’s no need for it.
This is not a political but a crypto forum and we come here because we are interested in crypto topics and not politics.
There are other forums or sections of Politics & Society to discuss politics.
There are certain forum rules for expulsion from the forum, such as plagiarism or financial fraud.
If you want to introduce a category of moral punishment, then you should be consistent and extend that to other countries in war like Yemen or Ethiopia for example.
Not all members of the forum who have an IP address from Russia are Russians, but there are many other nationalities living in Russia, then foreign workers, foreign students etc.
Should they send a passport to the forum administrators to prove that they are not Russian citizens even though they live in Russia and use Russian IP?
What about Russians who do not live in Russia?
I believe that from this you understand that your request is inviolable and that it makes no sense.
I suggest that instead of trying to introduce moral punishment in this forum, you take a more constructive approach and organize some action in the forum for collecting crypto donations for your country.
This will help your country a lot more than your request from the introductory post.

You are so funny, friend, instead of being sympathetic, I actually feel a little displeased with you if you still make statements like this.
Russia's current problem is a conflict that refers to politics.
Don't think that the Russian people don't suffer from this either.
Look now how many athletes have to bury their dreams now due to the sanctions imposed on their country.
There are so many companies or entrepreneurs who have to give up their current assets due to the Russian problem.
In the country I live in now, many Russians cannot return to their country due to the many regulations that are detrimental to them, even just to eat, they are now street musicians in my country due to their bank accounts being frozen.

Frankly I feel very sorry for them too because they don't know anything but they feel the impact.

Don't equate all things Russia-related with your hate speech. Political problems are still political problems, don't let civilians get involved in the ban as you say.

This is upto 10 months that I have been in this forum, I have never heard or known that this forum was created to fight banks and other financial institutions. Please, how did you come about this statement of yours? Is it included in bitcoin whitepaper? Was it rather said by Satoshi or Theymos  or you fabricated same yourself.
I think you really missed the entire essence of this forum and what her users represent.
I think this forum was one of the tools created to propagate bitcoin and not to go into war or fight with anyone or institutions.

If you can't handle free speech you should leave this forum immediately imo. I read the news all the time, people in Europe are kicking Russian students out of the colleges, firing random Russian people etc. It is the shit like this makes the EU look bad.

Maybe Facebook is a better platform for you. I heard Zuck has given a go on insulting the Russians.

The Russian language is multinational. Not only Russians, but also Belarusians, Ukrainians, Ossetians, Moldovans, Kyrgyz, Abkhazians, Kazakhs, Tatars and many other peoples of the world communicate in it.

There are no separate locales for their national languages on the forum, so they choose the Russian locale. Besides, even if a person is Russian it does not mean that he can not be in opposition to the government.

According to the latest information, a person who goes out to a peaceful protest in Russia receives a fine of $300 to $600 (the average salary for one or two months of work), and for the second protest, he could face three years in prison.

I start from the assumption that most of the members who visit this local board still live in Russia, although it is quite logical that they can be in any country in the world.


I will not excuse anyone, but we need to take into account that people who are exposed to the sufferings of war and fear for themselves and the lives of their loved ones often react in a way that everyone on the other side is equally to blame.

You're talking sake of the European nation and US sanction against Russia, simply imposing restrictions in belief of Russia keeping away from their action. However, situation is remain same moreover now invasion of Ukraine in heavy measure. I can see you're quite active Russian local board and sharing Ukrainian innocent peoples troubles, hardship during Russian invasion of Ukraine. I also can feel it but your approach absolutely not make sense. There lots of Russian residents continuously protest against Russian invasion, not every one of them holding a similar mentality as the Russian dictator.

As far as I know, Russian local board is visited by users not only from Russian territory or using "Russian" internet. Bitcointalk forum is already banned in Russia (or by several internet providers only) and many users are already using VPN to access this forum.

I cant understand why xenon131 accuses all Russian local board for military actions in Ukraine. He has been earning on this forum through signature campaigns by making posts there, and now local board turns to be bad. When he earned there they were good, not they are bad. He is so cheap.

Turing bitcoin or the forum into a political tool will never happen. Theymos is following the Satoshi's legacy and everything that bitcoin as build on is freedom, no matter race, nationality, gender nor political views! The crypto is for everyone and everyone suppressed by their government should have an alternative to the current corrupt payment system.

This should apply for both sides, the Russians as well as Ukrainians. The consequences from the every conflict are for the civil population, for the normal people, they will pay the price. The politicians and the oligarch will always find a way to save their a$$es, they are already moving assets to Dubai.

There is a better chance that Putin will walk through Kyiv smeared with tar and feathers and publicly apologize to everyone for the war, than that the admin would go so far as to close a board for political reasons. Such censorship exists only in Russia or the media of North Korea, and if it started happening at the forum, it would be the beginning of the end.

But if there is any truth that Russia intends to completely separate itself from the global Internet, then that board will lock itself up because Russians from Russia will no longer be able to access it.

Why dont you want to solve problem with Russia and Russian by yourself, and stop asking others to do your work? Dont drag others into your conflict. Dont try to use others hands and keep your hands clean and fluffy.

You must the among those who call teacher every time you get your ass kicked at school.

Satoshi wouldn't want that...

You are talking like Bitcoin should ban Russian holders which are impossible. This is a Bitcoin forum, not for a specific nation or jurisdiction. A lot of Russian are against the current war, but they are hopeless. They can't do anything but suffer from many sanctions. Definitely, I don't support any kind of war, but I can't blame citizens for government decisions. Even my governments have been taking a lot of decisions that I do not agree with, but can't do anything. So the forum is dedicated to cryptocurrency enthusiasts, doesn't necessary to turn it for a few specific nations. The forum is accessible via Tor from anywhere. So can't prevent anyone.

last time, I saw someone suggest that Ukrainian accounts should be restricted from PW/email change(something like that) to prevent Russian propagandists from taking over the Ukrainian accounts to spread propaganda and false information. both this and that thread are ridiculous.

This isn't going to happen, without going into the politics of it all; we aren't going to censor a certain section because of current events, whether that does cause hostilities between users or not. We're far more likely to take action on those users only if they're sending death threats, or breaking some other forum rules.

For the same reason that the OP's request wont be carried out; users can to a certain degree without trolling request whatever they want. While, I don't agree with the OP's reasoning, and there's no chance that it would actually be seriously taken into consideration, they can within the rules request it. We aren't going to remove a thread, because their request seems ridiculous to most users. We have plenty of other threads which take extreme views, which don't get removed. That's part, and parcel of freedom of speech. At the very core of this request, a user is asking for something forum related to be changed, despite the poor reasoning, that does fit in Meta. Also, while it might be poorly constructed, we don't tend to remove threads based on someone's English, as long as it's legible.

Now, it doesn't mean that users have to reply to that discussion mind. That's a separate issue all together.

I strongly believe there are always good people in any nation so does Russia. The war, this invasion was triggered by the obsession on power and Great Russia of only a single person, Putin. Why does he have such obsession?

Because he grew up under the Soviet Union and after taking over the power from Yeltsin, he has been given too much time on top of Russians. He has been given power and time to change Russian Constitution and the political, governmental infrastructures there. Russians have to do something to stop it. Else they will live under dictatorship, after Putin will be another one.

On this forum, you can not have full investigation and screening process on good or bad members on moral aspect and others. To over response by locking the Russian local board is too harsh and unfair for them.

I don't support Putin, his war, his invasion, his war crimes but this proposal is unfair, in my opinion.

OP, are you a complete ignoramus or something?  It isn't the average Russian on the street who's doing all of this stuff, it's Putin.  The Russian army, just like with all other countries, doesn't really have a choice but to carry out his orders.  Is that a valid excuse?  No, it isn't.  It's the same one the Nazis used, but the reality is that if you're in an army and your political ideology suddenly differs from some crazy thing your leader mandates that you do, you're not really left with many options.  I'd think that's especially true in Russia.

And as I just wrote in another stupid Meta thread about this conflict, I don't think the forum should be taking stances on any political issues and certainly shouldn't do something completely idiotic like locking out an entire country from accessing the site simply because there's an invasion going on.  

This isn't Facebook, Twitter, or any of those other street-whore social media sites that have one set of lips on the US government's cock and both hands grabbing your personal data.

P.S....You can keep posting horrible pictures of whatever you like, but that's also a trick that media likes to use to sway opinions by tugging on people's heartstrings.  Me, I'm not buying any of that as an excuse to nuke the Russian section.

It is not a "Russian section". It is a section in Russian language.
Dude, you cannot ban people based on speaking in a particular language.
AFAIK we do not have KYC here, no-one checks which passport you have.

All civilized World has already cut the whole Russia country and its citizens from the good of Earth. Bitcointalk is one of those good. Should Russians nor be cut from the access to it it would be not be understandable . Russian section must be locked.  It has no right to be on civilized forum.


BTC earned by Russians on bitcointalk allow them to bypass sanctions imposed civilization on them.

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Ukraine: Father Mourns Son, 16, Killed by Bombardment | Time

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P.S. My son is fighting against Russian's occupants somewhere in Ukraine right now/ If he will be killed I will personally gnaw through as many Russians throats as it would be possible for me.

All Ukrainians have turned out into  wolfs .

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Theymos, don't stay aside.  Pls, cut Russians from BTC which allow them to avoid sanctions and continue living with neutral attitude to Putin's regime.

Before all the events in Ukraine, I always considered the OP a very adequate person. But as they say, if you were able to be https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.58923648 disappointed once,  then the second time will not keep you waiting. I'm wondering how you OP are going to block Russian-speaking users? How will you weed them out? By the presence of knowledge of the Russian language?
In addition, I can please you that yesterday's news, which was announced by Roskomnadzor, is that it will continue to block VPNs that are still working in Russia. In addition to the fact that the forum is banned in Russia, it becomes more difficult for Russian users to find VPNs.
https://tass.ru/obschestvo/14075569

The question is, if there are no Russian-speaking users here, how will this help your Ukraine?
Will there be peace?

This is very unethical demand I would say because the war started out of Putin's own personal decision and his ego that have also affected the Russian citizens who have nothing to do with it and you could see how they also want peace in the country.

I have seen some reports in which they say Russian people are also supporting the Putin's war but I don't think so that's right and it's mere propoganda to make it feel like they are doing right.When strict sanctions are imposed on you like imprisonment and heavy fines how could you go on support march ? There is enough of this hate spread and war already so bringing it to forum will have no purpose against Russian board.

When one common citizen of the victim country is so humble not to spread hate with the neighborhood citizens then we must also not debate on this topic.

You are absolutely right that the local boards does not restrict anyone from participating and if you have the knowledge about the language you are free to go and share your thoughts with them.

Hope everything goes well and peace prevail as the Ukrainian people has already suffered a lot.

Some Ukrainians suspect it was a Russian provocation, here member of the Parliament of Ukraine:
https://twitter.com/grishchukroma/status/1503500141159985157?cxt=HHwWisC5mbPawN0pAAAA

We see Russian propaganda and Ukrainian propaganda, the difference is that you choose one reality or another.
The worst we can do is an another witch-hunt. Collective responsibility, you know.

I understand that some people would like to "do something" and help in that terrible situation, but I am not really sure if banning random forum members is a solution. I do not know Russian and I do not know what is happening there, but I guess if there are any pro-war posts it is responsibility of their mods to fix that.

It's painful seeing the level of havoc caused by Russian dictators but inflicting the consequence on their citizens will be injustice. Ukrainians have suffered a lot this few period and it's well understood but to have a rethink about it, it's an invasion of the leaders and not the whole country. By the way we should be looking for a way to establish peace between the citizens of both countries and not staring up more war. For me a board should rather be created for both countries where peaceful dialogue amongst the citizens can be reached while we patiently wait for the invasion to come to an end

You mean all are supporting war?
Or its mean that all the Russian Section members also are supporting war.
Let suppose that they are supporting. So
 it is enough to lock Russian Section.
Forum is running fairly. So they don't deserve that.

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I saw that yesterday. And the lady was lucky because she was only fined but all Russians who protest the war can face up to 15 years in jail. Just for publicly demonstrating against the war. And the OP wanting to discriminate all Russians, when it is normal to think that if there was not this law in Russia, there would be many more people protesting in the streets against the war.

This forum is for those people who are fighting against the banks and financial institutions. I personally do not support the ongoing war but I would not blame the Russian citizens for this war. They are also getting affected by this war therefore it would not be correct to lock the Russian board. There are only a few that support the dictator.

This is crypto forum, a decentralized one I believe so everyone are welcome as all us they abide all the rules here in the forum beside, Putin is not here so let’s not blame ordinary people and throw hate to them because they can’t voice out because of their not fair government system. Russian section should spare from hate, they are also a victim here.

Indeed, the forum is a bridge for any information, including the conflict that occurred there (Ukraine) I'm sure not everyone who preys there is here, maybe I don't really agree if all Russian people are filtered from here. And those who seek justice from this section any country for an aspiration, any better suggestion than that bro? one of them made treads/petitions from that country either on forums or on social media? I'm sure some russians or any supporters they have a conscience and about the chaos in ukraine will cry about defense or protection or a liberation?

I am Ukrainian and I am against it 

The Russian section does not belong to Russian users, it is the core of all Russian-speaking bitcoiners, regardless of their country of residence.

So the ballsy Russian news lady that protested Putin would be a villain according to the op.

https://www.updatednews.com/world/europe/42259


we could wake up in the morning and Putin could resign.
and the russian board here could have a part in it.

The best shot for peace is russian people continually saying fuck you to Putin.

And this website could help via btc profit.

Stop blaming russians for what their state leaders movements and actions in relation of war. Soon as their government isolate the country's internet lately you can't see them posting and active again on that board, unless some of them risks their lives to do it

It isn't and it doesn't.

Even if these were valid Meta topics, they should be locked after a short reply from admin, instead of allowing the shit to flow freely.

But hey, if we didn't have double standards here, we wouldn't have any standards at all.

Yes, innocent people dies in Ukraine , but i believe we have Russian friends in this forum who do not want these situation.  We must not punish them because of their dictator's faults. I have many Russian friends and they are also against to this situation. With such actions you are racist towards this good hearted people.There are only good and bad people in this world. Let's not lose our humanity before its too late. Otherwise there will be no world to live in peacefully

Yuval Noah Harari

if it is silently, how do you know about it? I mean it can't be silently if some random people know about that. If you see that any one of the Russian users speaks a war propaganda you have to report it, everything else you suggest is nonsense.

We all know war is a terrible thing to remember and experience and the impact of war is the killing of innocent people including children, women and the elderly. You certainly know that there are many Palestinian children and innocent people killed by wars involving Israel and Palestine, so do you think all Israelis should also be banned from this forum?

What needs to be done now is, evacuate the innocent people in the war zone to a safe area because the Governments of Ukraine and Russia still have no plans to achieve peace. Forbidding Russian users to post anything here is discriminatory in my opinion.

For what it's worth, it's an inquiry about the forum and fits in the meta board. It could rub some people the wrong way and be somewhat not constructive, but heavy moderation in a discussion board related to the forum might be counter productive.

This of course means we'll have to deal with a bit of shit posts.

+1

Poorly constructed nonsense threads such as this should go directly to the trashcan. I just reported it, let's see how it goes.

Edit: it's marked bad.

No no, calm your nerves mate, this is absolutely out of it, we are angry at what Russia did to Ukraine, but remember that its one man we are talking about , and not the entire Russian citizens.
You can't ask Theymos to lock an entire country out of bitcointalk just because of one man, yes, we understand that there are people of Russia supporting putin and his decisions, but we don't know who this set of people are yet, we don't even know if they are members of this forum, if we knew them, maybe we can ask Theymos to ban them individually, but as long as we don't know, it is absolutely inappropriate to ban an entire country from accessing bitcointalk for the sin of one man which many in the country are likely not in support of.

I'm cracking up at the thought of this. If Putin did have an active account here, it would definitely have been spammed with "Untrustworthy, I wouldn't trade with him" tags, but with much more vulgar language.

Yes, they are silently supporting this war.



 I'm not Russian. I was active in that section  but now I would even not dump in the vicinity of  any Russians.

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I think Meta should be locked for a few weeks until a moderator is found for it. Lately nothing gets deleted or moved... if it's something something forum something something theymos then it must be a meta topic and a bunch of lemmings start "discussing" it

Lol.



I completely agree and I think it is this thread that should be locked but it will not be locked out of respect for freedom of speech. I bet that if some forum members come here supporting what the OP says they will be trolls of recognized prestige.

How come anyone be such rude?
What the forum members have to do with the war? Personally, for me, everyone in this forum around the world certainly share the same thoughts/belief & we shouldn’t take other things into consideration. That's my personal standard/belief. Why would theymos lock Russian section? People here from Russia has also the same vision/goal/beliefs. Otherwise, they wouldn’t have registered here.
I guess your recommendation has no point.

So all Russian citizens are now murderers?

Have you also killed Innocent People in Ukraine? Because I see you have been an active poster in the Russian Board.

Funny coming from someone who has 40% of his posts in that board. Perhaps you are not happy because of some negative feedback you received recently.

Theymos, a truck driver killed 105 people in Italy, ban all Italians drivers in this forum, they don't have the morale right to be here.

Again, Putin is a dictator, Putin is a Russian, therefore all the Russians are dictators and should be banned.

Will it interest you to know that even if Putin happen to be a member of bitcointalk, he won't be banned. So, it holds no water to call for the ban of all Russians.

Bitcointalk is like Bitcoin it is not a political group that imposes sanctions.

ftw this is probably worst forum suggestion I heard recently, and russian section is most active with some great members and contributors.
Should we also ban members from ALL other countries that ever started some war in the world or they are ''better''?
I am sure theymos should then ban all of us including himself in the end, but bounty cheaters should be banned first.

Your issue is with a Russian dictator and not exactly the people of Russia (however some people will be complicit/supportive of the dictator).

I'm not sure how many are in support of the war but until misinformation is spread in the Russian section about it and there's probably not a problem, it'll likely remain where it is.

You might also end up cutting off people from the forum that have come from Russia and need help from Russian speaking members of the forum in other areas of the world (eg the borders to Europe weren't closed to people leaving Russia and some ended up in EU countries and didn't want to return - this is what I've seen on other social medias anyway).

Theymos, pls. Russians kill innocent people in Ukraine, children and women including. The representatives of that nation have no moral right to be on this forum.


I would suggest to ban all Russians from entering this forum and lock Russian section.